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Accounting Matters
Accounting Matters lives up to its title, covering vital accounting topics that actually matter to professionals in the accounting trenches. We start with a new topic and definition every episode, then highlight and discuss the key areas, from evaluation to reporting. Accounting Matters is hosted by public accounting veterans Adam Olsen & Nicole Harger from advisory firm Embark.
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- Episodes
- 160
- Releases
- Every two weeks
- Typical length
- 35 min
- On air since
- 2021
- Latest episode
- 2 months ago
Episodes
160 episodes, newest first
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39 min
Both Doors Open: Meet the Dual Track Exit
Episode 95
Show notes
The IPO window is reopening. M&A is picking back up. And a backlog of PE-backed companies that delayed exits in 2022 and 2023 are now under real pressure to move. Adam Olsen and Nicole Harger break down the dual-track exit, the strategy of running an IPO process and an M&A process at the same time, and what's driving renewed interest in it right now.
This is part one of a two-part series. Part two goes operational: what the CFO and finance organization need in place, and how far in advance.
In this episode:
• What a dual-track exit actually is, and why running both processes simultaneously creates leverage that neither path generates on its own
• Who uses this strategy: PE-backed companies remain the dominant profile, but corporate carve-outs and growth-stage companies are increasingly exploring it too
• Why most dual-track processes end in M&A, and why that's often the intended outcome rather than a failure of the IPO track
• The market backdrop heading into summer 2026: improving conditions, a buildup of past-hold-period PE portfolio companies, and a more disciplined IPO market than 2020-2021
• Inside the IPO track: the S-1 process, the three-year audited financial statement requirement, PCAOB auditor considerations, carve-out accounting complexity, and realistic 12-18 month preparation timelines
• Inside the M&A track: the CIM process, strategic versus financial sponsor buyer dynamics, quality of earnings diligence, the working capital peg negotiation, and the gap between signed LOI and close
• Why the financial rigor required for IPO readiness is the same rigor that protects valuation in an M&A process, and why there's no shortcut on either side -
33 min
Going Public Could Get A Lot Cheaper - The SEC's Proposed 2026 Reporting Overhaul
Episode 94
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In May, the SEC proposed two of the most significant changes to public company reporting in decades: a full restructuring of the filer status framework and an optional off-ramp from quarterly reporting. Adam Olsen and Nicole Harger break down what's actually in both proposals and what finance leaders should be doing while the comment window is still open.
In this episode:
• How the filer status framework drifted over 20 years, and why the SEC is collapsing five categories down to two: large accelerated filer and non-accelerated filer
• The new $2 billion threshold (up from $700 million) and the two-year measurement lock that gives companies near the line real visibility before a status change hits
• What non-accelerated filer status actually means: the 404(b) audit attestation exemption, scaled-back executive compensation disclosure, and the new opt-up flexibility to voluntarily keep stricter requirements
• The five-year mandatory on-ramp for newly public companies, and how it changes IPO readiness planning and S-1 financial statement requirements
• The companion semi-annual reporting proposal: the new Form 10-S, what stays the same (8-Ks, earnings releases), and why market practice may not shift even if the rule does
• Practical complications to watch: credit agreement covenants, underwriter comfort with older financials, exchange listing requirements, and the audit committee conversation around what fills the gap if 404(b) goes away -
42 min
Return of the SPAC: Surviving the De-SPAC
Episode 93
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The deal announcement is just the beginning. In Episode 2 of their two-part series, Embark's Nicole Harger and Adam Olsen get into the accounting and reporting mechanics that determine whether a de-SPAC actually succeeds on the other side of closing. The complexity surprises even experienced finance teams. This episode is the preparation they wish they'd had.
In this episode:
• What public company readiness actually means for a private target, and why the de-SPAC process tests it rather than creates it
• PCAOB audit requirements, Reg S-X compliance, and the finance function capacity demands that can't be built during the transaction
• The accounting acquirer determination under ASC 805: why the legal acquirer and the accounting acquirer are often different entities, and why it matters
• How redemption scenarios can flip the accounting acquirer conclusion, and what that means for pro forma financial statements
• Reverse recapitalization mechanics: no goodwill, no fair value step-up, and why the operating company's history becomes the combined entity's history
• Warrant classification under ASC 480 and ASC 815-40: the 2021 restatement wave, what triggers liability classification, and the quarterly income statement consequences that follow
• Earnout accounting: when it's compensation under ASC 718, when it's contingent consideration, and how liquidity event triggers can create mark-to-market exposure
• The Form S-4/merger proxy, the Super 8-K's four-business-day clock, and why that deadline has no exceptions
• ICFR obligations post-closing: why de-SPAC companies don't get the newly public company grace period, and what that means for the first annual reportIf you haven't listened to Episode 1 yet, start there. The deal structure decisions covered in Episode 1 and the accounting consequences covered here are more connected than they might seem.
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42 min
Return of the SPAC: What's Different This Time
Episode 92
Show notes
SPACs are back. The numbers make it hard to argue otherwise. In Episode 1 of their two-part series, Embark's Nicole Harger and Adam Olsen unpack what's driving the resurgence, what went wrong in 2021, and what CFOs and finance leaders actually need to know before they consider this path.
In this episode:
• What a SPAC is and how the three-phase lifecycle actually works, from IPO to business combination
• The full equity instrument landscape: founder shares, warrants, PIPE financing, and earnout arrangements, and why the headline deal value is never the complete picture
• Why the 2020-2021 SPAC boom collapsed, and how the SEC's 2024 rules changed the calculus
• What's fueling the current resurgence and why PE-backed companies are at the center of it
• SPAC vs. traditional IPO: the real trade-offs on speed, valuation certainty, cost structure, and projections
• The three most common mistakes companies make going into a de-SPAC, including the one that shows up in almost every SEC filing review
• Why public company readiness isn't a post-closing project, and what that preparation actually requiresEpisode 2 goes deep on the accounting and reporting mechanics. If you're close to a de-SPAC transaction or think you might be, it's worth your time.
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33 min
Capitalizing on AI
Episode 91
Show notes
Hyperscalers are pouring hundreds of billions into AI this year. Mid-market companies are right behind them, spending hundreds of thousands to millions on their own AI initiatives. Different scale, same accounting headache.
Adam Olsen and Nicole Harger break down how to actually account for AI development costs, and why the playbook finance teams have used for traditional software doesn't map cleanly onto this technology.
In this episode:
• Why framework selection comes first: internal-use software (ASC 350-40), externally marketed products (ASC 985-20), and pure research (ASC 730) all carry different capitalization rules
• The three-stage model under ASC 350-40 and why AI's iterative development cycle makes stage-tracking harder than it looks
• Data costs: the most overlooked, most material line item, and the "alternative future use" judgment that determines its treatment
• ASU 2025-06: FASB's principles-based overhaul of internal-use software accounting, and the new "significant development uncertainty" concept that changes when AI projects can start capitalizing
• What this all means for budgeting, useful life assumptions, build-vs-buy decisions, and the auditor conversation -
38 min
Navigating the New Risk Landscape: AI, Cybersecurity, Third-Party Risk & Regulatory Changes
Episode 90
Show notes
The risks keeping CFOs up at night aren't new. But the way they connect, accelerate, and amplify each other is. In the final episode of their three-part GRC series, Embark's Adam Olsen and Managing Director Allison Bradshaw break down the risk landscape organizations are navigating right now, and what it actually takes to get ahead of it.
In this episode:
• AI governance frameworks: how to build tiered oversight proportional to risk, from chatbots to credit decisions, without slowing down adoption
• The "black box" problem: why explainability and transparency are now regulatory expectations, not just best practices
• Cybersecurity as enterprise risk: how to reframe board conversations around cyber exposure and what ransomware preparedness actually requires
• Identity, access, and the human element: why phishing remains the most common attack vector and what effective security culture looks like beyond annual training
• Data privacy in a fragmented regulatory environment: GDPR, CCPA, and the state-by-state patchwork, plus why privacy and cybersecurity programs are stronger when built together
• Third-party and vendor risk: how to apply a risk-based approach across a complex vendor ecosystem, including fourth-party exposure and ESG considerations in the supply chain
• The regulatory change problem: AI regulation, SEC cyber disclosure rules, ESG reporting requirements, and how to build compliance capabilities that don't start from scratch every time
• Why integrated risk management isn't optional: how AI, cyber, privacy, and regulatory risks connect in ways siloed functions will always missTo connect with Allison or learn more about how Embark approaches GRC, visit embarkwithus.com.
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38 min
GRC Modernization: Building a Future-Ready Risk & Compliance Function
Episode 89
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Most GRC functions were built a decade ago in response to SOX or a single risk event. The world has changed. The function often hasn't. In this episode, Embark's Adam Olsen is joined by Managing Director Allison Bradshaw to break down what it actually takes to modernize governance, risk, and compliance for the environment organizations are operating in today.
In this episode:
• Why siloed GRC functions create blind spots, audit fatigue, and hidden costs that far exceed what shows up on a budget line
• What an integrated GRC model looks like in practice: common risk taxonomy, shared technology, and coordinated activities across all three lines of defense
• How to make the business case for modernization, including the 20 to 30 percent cost reduction organizations typically see when duplication is eliminated
• Technology enablement beyond the platform: continuous controls monitoring, workflow automation, and real-time integration with your ERP and source systems
• How modern GRC transforms SOX from a seasonal sprint into a year-round process, with a real-world example of an $800K compliance budget getting restructured
• Where AI fits into GRC today: risk identification, anomaly detection, and compliance monitoring, plus the governance frameworks organizations need to manage AI as a risk in its own right
• What a risk-intelligent culture actually looks like, and why most GRC transformations fail on culture long before they fail on technology
• How to start without boiling the ocean: practical guidance on sequencing a GRC modernization roadmapTo connect with Allison or learn more about Embark's GRC maturity assessment, visit embarkwithus.com.
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49 min
The ROI of Internal Audit: Beyond Compliance to Value Creation
Episode 88
Show notes
Most internal audit functions are still operating like it's 2010. In the first episode of Embark's new GRC series, Adam Olsen is joined by Allison Bradshaw, Principal and head of Embark's GRC and Internal Audit Services practice, to make the case for a fundamentally different model. The conversation covers what modern IA looks like, how to build the right delivery structure, and how CFOs can measure real return on investment.
In this episode:
• Why compliance-checkbox IA is leaving significant value on the table, and what a risk-based, consultative function looks like instead
• Co-sourcing vs. outsourcing: a practical framework for deciding which model fits your organization's size, complexity, and risk profile
• How data analytics and AI are shifting IA from sampling transactions to testing entire populations in near-real time
• The emerging demand for IT audit, cybersecurity, and AI governance capabilities, and why most teams can't hire for all of it
• A framework for measuring IA ROI: prevented costs, recovered value, process improvements, and stakeholder confidence
• A real-world co-sourced engagement example where a single year yielded over $1.6M in identified losses and fraud -
37 min
Beyond the Line Item: Building Your DISE Roadmap
Episode 87
Show notes
Understanding DISE is one thing. Actually producing the disclosure every quarter is another. In the final episode of their three-part series, Embark's Nicole Harger and Adam Olsen are joined by David Bushby, who brings real-world perspective from working directly with public companies on DISE implementation. If your team is asking "where do we even start," this episode is the answer.
In this episode:
• How to conduct a readiness assessment and gap analysis before your 2027 effective date
• Who needs to be in the room: why finance, IT, HR, procurement, and operations all have a role
• Key decisions to make early: cost-incurred vs. expense-incurred, selling expense definition, and voluntary disclosures
• Systems and data challenges: fragmented ERPs, the retail inventory method, cost pools, and how to use estimates responsibly
• Internal controls for a new disclosure: what needs to be in place before your first filing
• How DISE interacts with segment reporting under ASC 280 and what to address in MD&A
• Industry-specific pain points for retail, consumer products, manufacturing, life sciences, and tech
• Six practical tips for first-year adoption, including why running a pilot in 2026 could save you significant headaches -
31 min
Beyond the Line Item: Inside the Natural Expense Categories of DISE
Episode 86
Show notes
If Episode 1 covered the "why" behind DISE, Episode 2 is where theory meets practice. Embark's Nicole Harger and Adam Olsen get into the technical details of all five required natural expense categories, working through the tricky classification questions companies are already bringing to their teams. This is the episode to bookmark when your client asks, "But where exactly does that go?"
In this episode:
• The difference between natural and functional expense classification, and why it matters for your disclosure
• Purchases of inventory: what's included, what's excluded, and how intercompany transactions and inbound freight factor in
• Cost-incurred vs. expense-incurred basis: what each means and why most companies will elect cost-incurred
• Employee compensation: the ASC 718 definition of "employee," how to handle contractors and leased workers, and a practical approach to mixed workforces
• Depreciation and intangible asset amortization: how to handle finance lease ROU assets, internal-use software, and the costs that look like amortization but aren't
• DD&A for extractive industries, plus special considerations for asset-related costs, liability-related expenses, and reimbursement arrangements
• How to define selling expenses for your business, and why that definition has to hold up over time -
34 min
Beyond the Line Item: Why DISE Changes Everything
Episode 85
Show notes
The FASB just issued new guidance that will fundamentally change how public companies communicate about their cost structure. In the first episode of a three-part series, Embark's Nicole Harger and Adam Olsen break down ASU 2024-03, the Disaggregation of Income Statement Expenses (DISE) standard, and why companies need to start preparing now, even with a 2027 effective date on the horizon.
This episode covers the foundation: the investor demand driving the standard, who it applies to, and what "relevant expense captions" actually mean for your financial reporting.
In this episode:
• Why the FASB issued DISE and how it fits into a broader expense transparency initiative (alongside ASU 2023-07 and ASU 2023-09)
• Who is in scope: all public business entities, including broker-dealers, IPO-stage companies, and private companies whose financials appear in SEC filings
• Effective dates: annual periods beginning after December 15, 2026; interim periods beginning after December 15, 2027
• What goes into the tabular footnote disclosure, including the five required natural expense categories
• How to identify relevant expense captions, and the key exceptions and practical expedients that offer some relief -
35 min
Navigating Collaboration Arrangements — Accounting Under ASC 808 & 606
Episode 84
Show notes
Collaboration arrangements are becoming more common across industries, from biotech partnerships to platform-sharing in tech. But when it comes to accounting, things get complicated fast.
In this episode of Accounting Matters, Nicole Harger and Adam Olsen explore how to navigate ASC 808 and ASC 606. They cover:• What qualifies as a collaborative arrangement
• How to determine if (and when) ASC 606 applies
• Real-world examples involving IP licenses, cost-sharing, and milestone payments
• The role of customer relationships in collaboration agreements
• Disclosure expectations and SEC hot buttons
• Common pitfalls and best practicesWhether you’re structuring a new deal or reviewing an existing one, this episode offers a practical roadmap to get the accounting right.
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33 min
Accounting for Innovation — R&D Costs Explained
Episode 83
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Join hosts Nicole Harger and Adam Olsen as they explore the intricacies of accounting for R&D costs. This episode covers the current U.S. GAAP treatment, challenges in the life sciences sector, and differences with IFRS. Discover potential changes from FASB and gain insights into how these accounting principles impact financial statements across industries. Perfect for professionals navigating the evolving landscape of R&D accounting.
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38 min
FASB in Focus - Key Projects to Keep on Your Radar
Episode 82
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In this episode of "Accounting Matters," hosts Nicole Harger and Adam Olsen explore the FASB's 2025 agenda, highlighting key projects aimed at modernizing financial reporting standards. They discuss the proposed overhaul of software cost accounting, the introduction of a framework for environmental credit programs, and long-awaited guidance on accounting for government grants. These initiatives reflect a shift towards greater transparency and decision-usefulness in financial statements, addressing real-world challenges faced by companies today. Tune in to understand how these changes could impact your organization's financial reporting practices.
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42 min
The Global Tariff Tango – Keeping Your Financial Statements in Step
Episode 81
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Join hosts Nicole Harger and Adam Olsen as they explore the complex world of tariffs in this episode of Accounting Matters. Discover how global trade policies and tariffs are reshaping financial statements, supply chains, and pricing strategies. From the hardest-hit industries to strategic mitigation tactics, this episode provides valuable insights for navigating today's dynamic trade environment. Packed with in-depth analysis, it equips you with the knowledge to stay ahead in the financial landscape.
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41 min
The EU Buses in Proposed Changes to Sustainability Reporting
Episode 80
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Join hosts Adam Olsen and Allison Bradshaw as they break down the EU's proposed Omnibus package in this episode of Accounting Matters. They explore the evolving landscape of sustainability reporting, including SEC climate rules, state regulations, and ISSB standards. Discover how these changes impact CSRD obligations, scoping, timing, and assurance requirements. Packed with insights, this episode equips you with the knowledge to navigate the future of sustainability reporting.
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38 min
2024 AICPA & CIMA Conference on Current SEC & PCAOB Developments Recap
Episode 79
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Join hosts Nicole Harger and Adam Olsen as they break down the key takeaways from the 2024 AICPA & CIMA Conference on Current SEC & PCAOB Developments! In this episode, they dive deep into the latest shifts in SEC & FASB priorities, the rising impact of AI on the accounting industry, and the evolving landscape of ESG reporting. Packed with expert analysis and actionable insights, we provide you with everything you need to stay ahead in accounting and finance.
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19 min
Deepdive on EFRAG CSRD Study | Live from Workiva Amplify
Episode 78
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Coming to you live from Workiva Amplify! Join your hosts Adam and Allison as they dive into the recent EFRAG study unpacking key findings from companies navigating their early implementation of the EU's CSRD.
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8 min
FASB Proposed ASU, a Slew of IFRS Updates, New FAQs from GHG Protocol Bonus
Show notes
Your AM Now hosts Adam Olsen and Matt Fisser are back to bring you what’s happening in accounting and finance, including stories on:
• The FASB’s proposed ASU on the scope of derivative accounting and share-based payments from customers.
• The IASB’s recently completed review of IFRS 15 and IFRS for SMEs Accounting Standard along with some final decisions on their rate-regulated activities project.
• The recently released Exposure Draft proposing amendments to IFRS 19, Subsidiaries without Public Accountability: Disclosures
• The proposed inclusion of illustrative examples in the IFRS standards to enhance the reporting of climate-related and other uncertainties in financial statements.
• The recently released set of FAQs from the Greenhouse Gas Protocol to help companies in applying their standards.For more on this week’s topics:
IFRS, Rate-Regulated Activities
IFRS Exposure Draft, Amendments to IFRS 19 Subsidiaries without Public Accountability: Disclosures
IFRS Exposure Draft, Climate-related and Other Uncertainties in the Financial Statements
Greenhouse Gas Protocol, Corporate Standard Frequently Asked Questions
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45 min
Leading through an accountant shortage
Episode 77
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Practical ways leaders can overcome the accountant shortage from 3 managing directors with direct experience.
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