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Airline Weekly Lounge

Aviation, Business News, Leisure, News

The editors of Airline Weekly discuss the most interesting developments within the commercial airline industry. In keeping with Airline Weekly’s style, conversation generally centers on one question: How do you make money in this industry?

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Episodes
452
Releases
Weekly
Typical length
38 min
On air since
2015
Latest episode
5 days ago

Episodes

452 episodes, newest first

  1. Decoding Q3 U.S. Airline Earnings

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    Gordon Smith and Jay Shabat break down third-quarter earnings from the biggest U.S. airlines, examining record revenues, rising fuel costs, and diverging financial performance. They discuss JetBlue’s financial challenges, Southwest’s turnaround, the gap between revenue growth and underlying demand, and the risks of higher fares and continued capacity growth heading into 2027. The episode was recorded live on LinkedIn ahead of the Skift Aviation Forum in New York City.

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    00:00 Welcome to AWL

    01:23 Q3 Earnings Overview

    03:06 Margins Scorecard

    04:53 Seasonality Caveats

    07:20 JetBlue Under Pressure

    11:43 Southwest Revenue Switches

    16:23 Europe Earnings Preview

    17:09 Industry Economics and Consolidation

    22:23 Demand Destruction Question

    24:56 Travel Over Homeownership

    26:11 Loyalty Fees Risk

    26:55 Fuel Inflation Lessons

    28:55 What To Watch Next

    31:36 Start Your Day With Jay

    33:26 Aviation Forum Lineup

    37:31 Audience Q&A Capacity

    40:19 Earnings Season Surprises

    41:49 Wrap Up And Subscribe

    45 min
  2. United Airlines Is Bullish. Should It Be?

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    United Airlines is feeling bullish after its third-quarter earnings. But does the outlook match the optimism? Gordon and Jay break down the biggest takeaways from United’s Q3 earnings call, including what CEO Scott Kirby and his leadership team revealed about the airline’s performance and what may lie ahead.

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    00:00 Welcome to the Lounge

    00:30 In Flight Bread Debate

    03:02 United Earnings Snapshot

    06:23 Kirby vs American Airlines

    08:14 Starlink and Brand Loyalty

    15:04 Fuel Shock and Industry Risks

    21:49 Break and Listener Mail

    22:20 Alaska Airlines Margin Miss

    25:33 Loyalty Deals and Aeroplan

    27:58 Swipe Fees Under Scrutiny

    33:39 Wrap Up and Final Thoughts

    36:57 Closing Credits and Subscribe

    39 min
  3. Delta Sets the Pace for Airline Earnings Season

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    As Delta Air Lines kicks off Q3 earnings, Gordon and Jay unpack the numbers. Plus, could Southwest be eyeing widebody aircraft? And what's behind the latest slide in JetBlue's share price?

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    00:00 Welcome and Agenda

    00:30 Finnair Raises Guidance

    03:44 Delta Q3 Headlines

    06:14 Delta Refinery Advantage

    10:30 Cargo and MRO Boost

    14:37 Break and Listener Plug

    15:00 Premium Strategy Explained

    20:04 Riyadh Route Postponed

    22:02 Southwest Widebody Rumors

    28:54 JetBlue Under Pressure

    33:19 Forum Promo and Wrap

    35 min
  4. Delta Kicks Off Q3 Earnings Season

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    In part one, Gordon and Jay preview what to watch as U.S. carriers report Q3 earnings. In part two, they turn to Alaska Airlines' investor day and discuss what stood out.

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    00:00 Welcome and Agenda

    00:34 Q3 Earnings Preview

    03:17 Revenue Man Tailwinds

    08:38 Cost Vader Headwinds

    11:29 Fuel Uncertainty Outlook

    12:56 Premium Cabin Boom

    18:16 Skift Aviation Forum Plug

    21:20 Break and Reset

    21:49 Why Investor Days Matter

    23:35 Alaska Rough First Half

    26:40 Alaska Global Expansion Risks

    30:29 Alaska Revenue Strategy Shift

    33:23 Partnerships and M&A Chatter

    38:07 Wrap Up and Farewell

    41 min
  5. Virgin Atlantic CEO Corneel Koster on Fuel, AI, and ATC Meltdowns

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    Gordon Smith sits down with Virgin Atlantic CEO Corneel Koster on the sidelines of Skift Global Forum in New York. They discuss how fuel costs are weighing on the airline and why premium demand keeps holding up, before turning to recent air traffic control meltdowns that have disrupted transatlantic operations.

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    0:00 Introduction
    1:00 Becoming CEO of Virgin Atlantic
    3:00 The Iran War and a Challenging First Year
    4:00 Fuel Costs Have Doubled
    5:30 Transatlantic Demand and Cargo Revenue
    7:00 The Premium Cabin Bet
    9:00 Keeping Premium Feeling Special
    10:00 The Delta Relationship
    12:00 AI at Virgin Atlantic
    14:00 ATC Failures and Infrastructure
    16:00 Vision for Virgin Atlantic

    18 min
  6. What American, Southwest and United Told Investors

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    Gordon is joined by Jay and Meghna to unpack the recent Morgan Stanley Laguna conference, where executives from American, Southwest and United set out where they think the market is heading.

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    00:00 Welcome and Setup

    00:45 Laguna Conference Themes

    03:46 Demand Strong Costs Rising

    08:12 Premium Push and Lounges

    15:23 Airline Strategies Compared

    18:25 Wrap Part One and Break

    20:53 Part Two Fuel Update

    22:58 Capacity Cuts Ahead

    24:48 Merger Rumors Return

    30:55 Regulators and Rail Parallels

    36:09 Final Thanks and Subscribe

    38 min
  7. Airlines Post Record Revenues But Costs Catch Up

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    Gordon and Jay open with why record revenues still aren't covering a sharp rise in costs, then turn to what JetBlue's latest outlook tells the rest of the industry.

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    00:00 Welcome and Agenda

    00:50 Why Costs Matter Now

    02:37 Six Inflation Buckets

    03:01 Fuel and Labor Pressures

    05:00 Aircraft and Maintenance Crunch

    06:22 Airport Infrastructure Inflation

    08:47 Premium Service Costs

    09:49 Borrowing Costs Rising

    11:32 How Airlines Fight Inflation

    14:19 Capacity Cuts and Pricing Power

    18:15 Demand and Supply Behind Fare Hikes

    21:01 OEMs and Next Aircraft Programs

    22:23 Forum Plug and News Notes

    23:32 Back From Break Global Forum

    26:36 JetBlue Investor Update Numbers

    31:14 Fort Lauderdale Strategy Post Spirit

    34:34 Losses Bankruptcy Talk and Options

    36:11 Merger Prospects United Southwest American

    38:19 JetBlue Right of Reply Context

    40:34 Wrap Up and Subscribe

    42 min
  8. The Air Canada Anko Inherits Monica Joan

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    In part one, Gordon and Jay weigh the opportunities in front of Air Canada against the challenges that come with them. In part two, the conversation turns to China, and why the country's Big Three carriers had such a rough second quarter.

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    38 min
  9. Why US Airlines Are Betting Big on Europe in 2027

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    In part one, Jay and Meghna discuss the latest transatlantic expansion announcements from United and American Airlines and what they reveal about how US carriers are rethinking their European strategies. In part two, the conversation turns to the A321XLR, the narrow body aircraft making these new routes possible, and whether its heavy reliance on premium demand is a strength or a risk.

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    32 min
  10. Qatar Airways: Skift Global Forum Preview

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    In part one, Gordon and Jay discuss some of the biggest talking points at Qatar Airways, as the airline's CEO, Hamad Ali Al-Khater, prepares to join the Skift Global Forum in New York next month. In part two, the conversation focuses on impressive Q2 profitability at Kuwait's Jazeera Airways.

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    33 min
  11. Skift Global Forum 2026: Aviation Preview

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    In this week's show, Gordon and Jay discuss two industry giants that are due to speak at the Skift Global Forum 2026 in New York between September 22-24. The conversation kicks off with Air Canada before turning to Virgin Atlantic. For the latest agenda and to book your ticket, visit live.skift.com

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    40 min
  12. Turkish Airlines' Turbulent Quarter

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    In part one, Gordon and Jay discuss a mixed set of Q2 results for Turkish Airlines. In part two, the conversation turns to Allegiant Air, with the U.S. carrier now taking Sun Country under its wing.

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    30 min
  13. Swiss Shines But Lufthansa Lags

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    Swiss out-earned the entire Lufthansa Group network division it belongs to last quarter, while the core Lufthansa brand slid back into an operating loss. Gordon and Jay work through how a fuel bill undid a solid demand quarter, and why Swiss keeps outperforming its much larger sibling.

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    34 min
  14. Airshow Highs and Earnings Season Realities

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    In part one, Gordon and Jay discuss the highlights from last week's Farnborough International Airshow, reviewing the big deals and longer term impact of the event. In part two, the conversation turns to earnings season, with a Q2 round-up from the main U.S. carriers.

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    01:21 Farnborough Show Context

    04:34 Biggest Orders and Lessors

    07:45 Airline Deals Roundup

    12:33 What Success Looks Like

    14:38 Next Gen Aircraft Talk

    18:16 Emirates and Airbus Plans

    21:58 United A321XLR Cabin Tour

    24:05 Q2 Earnings Pivot

    24:42 US Margins Ranking

    29:14 Industry Pricing Power

    32:03 American Airlines Deep Dive

    41:00 Wrap Up and Sign Off

    43 min
  15. Why 2026 Is Aviation's Most Volatile Year Since COVID

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    The airline industry is navigating its most unpredictable period since the pandemic, with fuel prices, geopolitical tensions, premium travel demand, and aircraft shortages reshaping the competitive landscape. Gordon Smith and Jay Shabat break down the data behind the headlines, explaining why airlines remain profitable despite rising costs and unprecedented volatility.

    They also explore the winners and losers across global aviation, from the Middle East's disrupted hub networks and Europe's consolidation wave to the changing competitive dynamics in the U.S. Plus, they preview what to watch as airlines report Q2 earnings and why premium cabins continue to drive the industry's strongest financial results.

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    17:03 Premium Boom Everywhere

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    25:37 Unit Costs Beyond Fuel

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  16. How Many Planes Does the World Need?

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    Ahead of the Farnborough Airshow, for this special episode Gordon Smith and Meghna Maharishi are joined by Darren Hulst, Boeing's VP of Commercial Marketing. The conversation centers on the planemaker's latest Commercial Market Outlook, an annual report which asks how many aircraft the world will need in the decades to come.

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    13:24 Premium Cabin Boom

    17:59 ULCCs After Spirit

    20:23 Farnborough Airshow Preview

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    26 min
  17. Can a "New Class of BNPL" Become a Strategic Loyalty Play?

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    ClarityPay recently partnered with JetBlue to introduce a new pay-later program that combines embedded financing, loyalty, and personalization to drive incremental revenue.

    Learn more about ClarityPay here: http://claritypay.com/travel

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    00:55 Introducing Clarity Pay

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    05:27 BNPL Meets Co-Brand Cards

    06:33 Data Trust and White Label

    07:49 Personalized Underwriting Example

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    18 min
  18. How Much is EasyJet Worth?

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    An approach from U.S. private equity firm Castlelake has reopened the question of what EasyJet is actually worth. Gordon and Jay run through the latest takeover chatter before setting the scene for Delta's Q2 earnings.

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    00:41 Earnings Season Setup

    01:26 Castlelake Bids for EasyJet

    04:21 What a Takeover Means

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    09:44 Who Could Be Next

    10:46 Wizz Air and Finnair

    19:37 More Targets Aegean to Condor

    28:42 Jet2 and Package Holidays

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    33:08 Delta Q2 Preview

    33:50 Industry Trends Demand Costs

    39:21 Delta Margin and Fuel Outlook

    41:20 Wrap Up and Next Dates

    43 min
  19. Does SAS Really Need 40 A330neos?

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    Does SAS Really Need 40 A330neos?

    In part one, Gordon and Jay discuss SAS Scandinavian Airlines' new widebody order and ask whether the carrier can justify that many additional planes.

    In part two, the focus turns to Air New Zealand, where management has just published an updated turnaround plan.

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    00:00 Welcome and World Cup Banter

    01:48 SAS Order Breakdown

    03:52 AF KLM Vision for SAS

    05:07 Copenhagen Hub Consolidation

    08:16 Network Growth and Fleet Mix

    14:09 Why Copenhagen Wins

    17:22 Airshow Timing and Industry Chatter

    18:56 Group Rebrand Speculation

    23:23 Part Two Air New Zealand Setup

    24:58 Air NZ Challenges Fuel and Engines

    28:50 Our Future Plan Priorities

    32:25 Customer First Means On Time

    34:12 Subscribe Forum Earnings Wrap

    36:21 Final Thanks and Sign Off

    38 min
  20. Is Las Vegas Out of Luck?

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    Las Vegas air traffic is down 6%. Gordon and Jay work through what's behind it, then turn to a U.S. market headed firmly the other way.

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    01:55 Vegas Market Slump

    03:55 Why Visitors Dropped

    06:54 Premium Shift and Prices

    11:00 Events and Seasonality

    12:57 Gambling Competition Theory

    16:00 Capacity Correction Debate

    17:52 Airline Winners and Losers

    19:32 Break and Listener Plug

    20:22 San Diego Growth Story

    22:09 Alaska vs Southwest Battle

    23:14 Why San Diego Appeals

    27:20 Airport Constraints and Planning

    29:29 California Growth Limits Tangent

    34:09 Wrap Up and Skift Forum

    35:49 Final Thanks and Sign Off

    37 min