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How do you capture the life and legacy of someone as widely loved as President Jeffrey R. Holland? When Church Historian Matthew Grow was personally invited to write President Holland's biography, he faced a unique challenge: for the first time in his career, he would be writing about a living leader. On this week's episode, Matthew reflects on the process of telling President Holland's story as it continued to unfold, the responsibility of capturing the man behind the public ministry, and the personal insights he gained from an unprecedented opportunity to look more closely at the life of one of the Church's most beloved leaders.

3:28- The Ask and the Opportunity 7:30- 1:1 Time with President Holland 10:05- Process 13:50- A Complex Father-Son Relationship 22:37- Marion D. Hanks 31:31- Pat Holland 36:39- Honesty and Transparency 43:50- At the Pulpit and In Private 45:55- The Manuscript 52:19- A Few Extra Years 54:10- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"Ultimately, there's going to be no tension between true scholarship and the true gospel of Jesus Christ."

This year, Zavier Gozo became the first Latter-day Saint to ever play in the English Premier League. Jon Russell, a Jamaican International Midfielder grew up in the academy system for Chelsea and signed a pro contract with them but never made a Premier League appearance. Meanwhile, Alan Pace, a Latter-day Saint business man is the majority owner for Burnley FC, which was recently relegated from the Premier League. On this week's episode, we introduce you to the 19-year-old phenom making serious noise in the professional soccer world.

3:10- Parental Impact on Success 8:17- Faith and Overcoming Hard Things 12:05- Mothers Who Know 14:19- Discovering Identity After Injury 21:05- A Latter-day Saint Playing in Utah 23:40- Baptizing a Former Teammate 26:14- Choosing to Be Endowed 31:23- World Cup Goals 33:37- 'Guided By Faith' 36:21- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"When I focus on my faith…and I don't make it my worth and don't make it my everything, I start playing with more freedom, I start playing with more confidence."

Millions watched McKenna Breinholt reunite with her birth family on national television in 2024. What many watching didn't know is the road that led McKenna to that point—the addictions she'd worked to overcome and the reason why she boldly testified of Jesus Christ from her first audition on the show. On this week's episode, McKenna shares the love of God she's felt all along the way.

2:17- The Beginnings of a Talent 6:05- Adoption 9:57- Addiction and a Priesthood Blessing 19:21- Reconnecting with Birth Family 26:25- A Mother's Sacrifice 29:51- American Idol with Jesus 34:48- Two Families Coming Together 36:47- Why the Gospel? Why the Church? 45:00- "But God" 49:23- What Does It Mean to Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"Is this a place that I can go to and feel like I can fully grow with the Lord and feel like I can be my best self and learn to be my best self? Yes. Is this a place where I feel the most joy? Yes. Is this a place where my family is? Yes. And is this a place where I can serve others and learn how to do that? Yes. …I can't help but feel that my cup has overflowed here."

Sariah and Troy Davis never imagined their first marriages would end in divorce. But when those marriages fell apart, they were left to pick up the pieces—grappling with shame, heartbreak, and the difficult work of letting go of the hurt. On this week's episode, they open up about what it took to overcome a warring heart, heal from the pain of divorce, and eventually find one another. Their story is a testament to the possibility of finding beauty for ashes, even after life takes an unexpected turn.

2:58- The Aftermath of Divorce 6:30- Beauty for Ashes 14:45- Shame Resilience 25:45- Anger, Bitterness, and Overcoming a Warring Heart 35:07- Is There a Purpose For Anger? 43:09- Blending Families and Speaking about Former Spouse 53:30- Remarriage 59:16- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"What does holy mean? It means that the Lord can turn our suffering into beautiful things. He can truly take ashes and turn them into beauty." -Sariah Davis

Links:

Thriving LDS Singles interviews with Troy and Sariah: Troy Davis- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5yYROgA_tM Sariah Fuller Davis- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUpkymSBGzo

"You can do hard with Jesus, or you can do hard alone. That is your choice. But when you do hard with Jesus Christ, the hard becomes holy." -Camille Johnson https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/broadcasts/miscellaneous-events/2026/03/14johnson?lang=eng

Sam Merrill has made some big shots and missed some big shots. Through both, he's learned to focus less on what just happened and more on becoming better and preparing for what comes next. On this week's episode, Sam shares how a practice of daily repentance has influenced the way he approaches both his faith and his career in the NBA.

"When you look at a team that is all in, it's every guy is doing the best that they can do to help the team win—whatever that looks like. There's a level of humility that that takes. You can have no pride, no egos, and everyone is focused on what really matters. And I think from a gospel perspective it's really similar. It's not all in on being perfect but having a constant desire to get better and to strive to be the best that you can be."

2:17- The Aggie Example of Returned Missionaries 4:32- Resilience and Dedication Learned in Nicaragua 13:18- A Temple in Cleveland! 18:20- Ready to Serve a Mission 21:16- The Support of a Spouse 23:01- Perspective Provided by Faith 25:06- Working for a Spot in the League 27:47- Donovan Mitchell and 'Money Merrill' 29:45- The Blessing of Going Home 31:31- Big Shots and Big Moments 36:44- What Does It Mean to Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

Links:

From the Logo with Jimmer Fredette interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMawE8oUpE4

Sam Merrill's Big Shot at Utah State: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShC02_e8UbM

Donovan Mitchell in Money Merrill Jersey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcF_D9tY-Ww

"Anyone who imagines that bliss is normal is going to waste a lot of time running around shouting that he has been robbed. The fact is that most putts don't drop, most beef is tough, most children grow up to be just like people, most successful marriages require a high degree of mutual toleration, and most jobs are more often dull than otherwise. Life is just like an old time rail journey ... delays, sidetracks, smoke, dust, cinders, and jolts, interspersed only occasionally by beautiful vistas and thrilling bursts of speed. The trick is to thank the Lord for letting you have the ride." ― Jenkin Lloyd Jones

Brad Wilcox, "My Grace is Sufficient" - https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/brad-wilcox/his-grace-is-sufficient/

While serving as mission leaders in Brazil, Davis and Asialene Smith noticed a challenge many missionaries face but few are prepared for: coming home. After living with purpose, structure, and a clear mission, returning to everyday life can feel surprisingly difficult. In response, the Smiths began intentionally preparing their missionaries not only to serve well, but also to transition well. On this week's episode, Davis Smith shares lessons from that experience and offers thoughtful advice for navigating "the rest of your life" after the mission.

4:27- The Challenges of Re-Entry 8:09- Spiritual Progression Post-Mission 13:00- How Parents Can Best Help 18:25- Daughter's Experience 26:22- Blessings of Church Callings 31:25- Diversity of Talents and Personalities 34:50- Life Tips 40:34- Financial Stability 46:04- The Unseen Toll on Women 50:14- High Love and High Expectations 57:00- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"Being all in doesn't mean I'm never struggling. It doesn't mean I'm never having questions or I'm never falling short. Being all in simply means I've decided who I'm trying to follow and it's going to be a lifelong pursuit."

Links: The Next Ten Years- https://www.deseretbook.com/product/PR00002126.html

Davis and Asialene Smith's previous All In interview- https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/all-in/id1439975046?i=1000539878100

All In KSL documentary including Davis- https://youtu.be/ADyhgDGiSK4

It is difficult to understand what happened on Thursday, May 14, 2026, when Marla Gale somehow survived a devastating car accident despite suffering severe injuries, while her 13-year-old son was killed instantly. In this week's episode, Marla shares what she experienced that day and what God has shown her in the days since. Through unimaginable loss and miraculous survival, one thing has become clear: God is in charge.

2:09- Parker Gale 7:16- Nature Vs. Nurture 10:47- The Day of the Accident 13:57- Prepared 17:38- The Truck Driver 20:49- Recovery, Realization and Healing 28:12- Family Support 30:17- Joy Cometh in the Mourning 34:40- Due Dates 45:08- Parker's Temple Endowment 47:56- Help to Stand 52:50- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"If you're here living, you're supposed to be here and if someone isn't here anymore, it's because they're supposed to be there."

Links: Articles about Marla's accident: https://www.deseret.com/faith/2026/05/24/latter-day-saint-influencer-marla-gale-receives-outpouring-support-after-tragedy-car-accident/ https://people.com/13-year-old-boy-dies-after-family-minivan-collides-with-semi-truck-at-dangerous-intersection-11978993

President Nelson quote about joy: "The joy we feel has little to do with the circumstances of our lives and everything to do with the focus of our lives" https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2016/10/joy-and-spiritual-survival?lang=eng

President Nelson's "A Plea to My Sisters": https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2015/10/a-plea-to-my-sisters?lang=eng

Gary Miller wasn't searching for a new religion. He loved serving as a Baptist pastor and felt learning about different religions strengthened his preaching. But when he stumbled across an audio recording of the Book of Mormon while looking for something to listen to on a drive, curiosity led him to press play. On this week's episode, Gary shares how that unexpected decision set him on a six-year journey that ultimately led him from the Baptist pulpit to serving on a stake high council in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

2:30- Cassette Tapes, Religion, and Searching for Answers 9:04- A Podcast Recommendation 16:11- A Jesus Book 20:00- Identity and Faith 31:40- To a New Member 38:06- The Temple 46:36- The Blessings of the Gospel 49:30- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"I believe simply that The Book of Mormon is a Jesus book. …And anybody that wants more Jesus, just start reading The Book of Mormon, you're good to go."

Links: Outside the Lane podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/outside-the-lane-with-gary-miller/id1896771862

Some treat Nursery leader as a calling that doesn't matter or one to be avoided but Angie Robertshaw is not one of those people. Instead, she calls serving in nursery "her thing" and takes the responsibility to teach the Lord's little ones very seriously. On this week's episode, Angie shares why she believes our service in the Church regardless of calling matters.

1:45- Finding the Gospel in New Zealand 6:20- Māori Culture and Upbringing 13:15- A Sacred Space 17:11- Special Days 27:12- Worth the Effort to Serve 35:09- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"Wherever the children are, it's a sacred space."

Raised in the canyons as the son of a science professor, Phil Millett developed a deep love for the natural world at an early age. While other kids spent their time on ball fields and in gyms, Phil wandered mountains and streams, searching for understanding in the world around him. Over time, those experiences led him not away from faith, but toward it. On this week's episode, Phil shares how nature has helped him recognize evidence of a divine Creator—and the spiritual lessons he's learned from a lifetime of exploring God's creations.

2:10- Falling in Love With Mother Nature 5:19- Cycles 8:05- Creation 12:05- Absolute Truth 17:22- The Brotherhood of the Rope 33:04- The Loss of a Best Friend and the Atonement 48:07- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"In life and in what really matters most, I think that it's not so much the truths that we learn in our head, it's the truths that we learn in our heart."

Links:

Phil's Book, "From Rocks to You and Me" (I highly recommend the audiobook): https://www.amazon.com/dp/1967778949/?bestFormat=true&k=from%20rocks%20to%20you%20and%20me&ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-bk-ww_k0_1_14_de&crid=2Z2YQZV3AHXER&sprefix=from%20rocks%20to%20

Even during time spent away from the Church, Emily Susan Pack never lost sight of one defining truth—she had once belonged. Her time in Young Women gave her a foundation of being seen, loved, and needed, and that sense of belonging stayed with her through some of life's hardest chapters. On this episode, Emily shares how that early sense of identity shaped her journey back—and how her music now aims to help others remember that they, too, have a place.

2:56- Laughter That Lasts 6:51- Amazing Grace 8:33- New Young Women Class Names 20:15- Creators of a Special Place 28:50- Music as a Jumping On Point 35:50- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"Let's make sure we don't interrupt something beautiful that might be happening for these girls. These weren't the names that we needed but these are the names that they need. This is the name for their time."

Links: My favorites from Emily's Instagram: Amazing Grace- https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPcgKWuASZ5/?igsh=cGN1d2QxZHZtb3dq Nativity Chicken- https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR16puIFL7-/?igsh=MWdtMzZzMWV0Ym1ucw== Benson Boone- https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRcHTC3ltUy/?igsh=MTdtcXQybTMzZmd6Zw==

Description of Young Women Names: https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/young-women-age-group-names?fbclid=IwY2xjawRTUDxleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA80MDk5NjI2MjMwODU2MDkAAR59C9heXSJu5g9uV00MDGeNVrZHdAxj70Ld1LLj6Ju-t80scpnkxwa0GtlFSw_aem_4UVkmvZvUjuJqI6G0w73zA

Emily on General Conference Applied: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/general-conference-applied/id1699480051?i=1000740905221

A song, "I Want Jesus to Walk with Me," once carried hope through generations who believed a brighter future would come. Today, Nolong Bonner Bullock and Yahosh Bonner say they're living that future. In this episode, they open up about heritage, gratitude, and the responsibility of honoring those who came before them.

3:21- Writing a Book as a Family 5:53- Bucket List Experiences 9:28- African Heritage 11:22- The Weight of a Name 13:58- Sibling Dynamics 17:58- Spending Time With the Savior 21:01- Family Councils and Intentional Parenting 26:36- Unity in the Home 31:00- Gender, Race and Priesthood 37:16- The Next Generation 38:54- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"He's the end all, be all. He makes all the decisions. Everything makes sense through Him."

Links: Preorder the Bonners' new book here- https://www.deseretbook.com/product/PR00001659.html

The Bonners in Kansas City- https://youtube.com/shorts/xx2BIniskQc?si=jtBf1hERgmhhVJiW

The Bonners National Anthem at the NBA All-Star Game-https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aJlm14WU4pw&pp=ygUeVGhlIGJvbm5lciBmYW1pbHkgbmJhIGFsbC1zdGFy&ra=m The Bonners NBA All-Star Game recap- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PnCU8jUirSw&pp=ygUeVGhlIGJvbm5lciBmYW1pbHkgbmJhIGFsbC1zdGFy&ra=m

Why has the parable of the ten virgins been referenced more frequently in recent general conference addresses? While many understand the bridegroom to represent the Savior and the bride to represent us, there may be deeper layers of meaning often overlooked. On this week's episode, DeAnn Sadleir explores the rich symbolism within this parable and reveals a powerful love story that can transform the way we prepare to meet Him.

1:42- Forgiveness and Divorce

8:22- Why This Parable Matters

15:50- The Symbolism in the Wedding Feast

22:29- Personal Application

29:38- When The Day Finally Arrives

36:55- This Parable After Divorce

40:05- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"When you think it's the great and dreadful day, it's going to be the greatest day for those who are prepared and are waiting and want to hear Him and want to be a part of that wedding feast."

In the second part of this two-part interview, Bridger and Lindsey Frampton—whose family was forever changed by the tragedy in Grand Blanc, Michigan—share what has unfolded in the days following the attack. They reflect on the challenges of guiding their family through grief and healing, and the impact of the love and support they've received from around the world.

00:37- Feelings That Can Coexist 4:29- Lifted Up By Prayer and Support 17:09- Lindsey 20:36- Helping Children Heal 31:55- PTSD 39:00- The Master Physician 43:45- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"You get flashbacks. You get memories. You get loud noises that cause you to go right back to where you were—smells, sounds—it's interesting how easily you're back in the midst of chaos. And taking time to go through those memories, to go through those flashbacks with a lens of the gospel or with a lens of the Savior, you can find the Savior in those moments and then you can turn that over to the Lord." -Bridger Frampton

Links: Pt. 1 interview- https://www.ldsliving.com/all-in/bridger-and-lindsey-frampton-the-faith-that-outlasted-the-flames-in-michigan-pt-1

On Sunday, September 28, 2025, Bridger and Lindsey Frampton were at church with their family when a vehicle crashed into the side of their chapel just moments after the administration of the sacrament. What first appeared to be a tragic accident quickly revealed itself to be something far more devastating. In this first half of their story, Bridger and Lindsey honor the lives lost and share the miracles they witnessed and experienced—even in the midst of unimaginable tragedy.

1:36- The Road to Michigan 4:45- September 28, 2025 15:00- Going Back Inside Again and Again 17:56- Heroes 22:58- Searching For Your Children 26:22- Smoke Inhalation 33:48- Two Mothers 36:27- Medical Professionals 42:36- The Power of Prayer

"These were faithful members of the Church. …They'd just taken the sacrament. When their lives were taken, they were doing what they've always been doing. They were serving. They were helping people around them and I think God takes their actions and those things very seriously. And I hope they'll always be remembered for the way they lived. People of faith, people of service, and people who love others around them."

When friends serving as mission leaders in Ghana encouraged Dwight and Susan Potter to submit their mission papers, they didn't hesitate. But the path that followed turned out to be very different from what they expected. In this episode, the Potters share how their willingness to say "yes" led to an unexpected and deeply meaningful journey—one they wouldn't change for anything.

1:46- A Young Missionary to Belgium 3:05- A Change of Plans 5:39- Finding What the Lord Knew All Along 10:55- The Language of Love 14:26- Miracles Have Not Ceased 30:07- Smiling Faces and Grateful Hearts 32:38- The Experience of a Senior Mission 36:03- A Window of Time 40:37- What Does It Mean to Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"If you'd told me at any point before this that at some point in my life I would be in, like I call it, the backwoods of North Carolina where I grew up teaching people the gospel of Jesus Christ in my mission language I could never have foreseen that—never in my wildest dreams." -Dwight Potter

Links:

Elder Godoy's Conference Talk- https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2025/10/54godoy?lang=eng

What would the Primary General President say to a newly called Primary leader? Why does Primary matter? How can we create "places of security" for children? We find out on this week's episode as President Susan H. Porter gives advice directly to a brand new ward primary president.

1:50- Upbringing 4:23- First and Earliest Communicators 8:15- Recognizing the Spirit 10:14- Long-term Impacts of Primary 13:30- Experiences with Elder Porter 18:08- Engaging Five Senses 20:15- Service When It's Not Convenient 23:00- Variety of Learners 25:53- Handbook Updates 31:54- Value of Councils 34:44- Power of Primary Songs 37:31- Creating Places of Security 38:43- Message to Children of the Church 39:25- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"Heavenly Father knows you. Heavenly Father loves you and Heavenly Father needs you." President Porter's message to the children of the Church

In October 1998, Sione Havili's future looked incredibly bright. Earlier that year, he had signed a letter of intent to play football at BYU and was preparing to serve a mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in New York City. But in a single moment, everything changed. A decision to take part in an act of retaliation tied to gang violence would alter the course of Sione's life forever. In this week's episode, Sione opens up about the difficult lessons that followed, and why he now believes the experience was essential to his personal growth and progression.

1:40- Two Sets of Friends 3:53- Retaliation 5:57- Extradited 9:07- The Response of Others 12:23- From NYC To SLC 13:38- Prison 17:00- High School Sweethearts 18:13- Continued Consequences 22:23- Leaving That Kid Behind 31:01- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? "We can't look back…Whenever we encounter any challenges, even if we have successes, we need to look forward."

Links: KSL Documentary about Sione: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rwSILAXH0Y&t=745s

Years ago, Maria Eckersley found herself needing the Savior more than ever. As her husband battled pancreatic cancer, Easter became more than a holiday—it became a lifeline of hope, hope in the promises of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Instead of creating a long list of activities or traditions, Maria created what she calls a "tradition of teaching." In this episode, Maria shares how intentionally focusing her family on the gift of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ transformed her home and her gratitude for Easter.

2:42- Origin of Testimony

6:13- Salt Lake Temple Open House Celebration

9:59- A Choice to Celebrating Easter

15:18- A Tradition of Teaching

20:13- What a Connection with the Lord Does

22:08- There's Always Water

25:08- The Promises If the Resurrection is True

29:15- The Duality in Easter

34:04- Easter Through the Lens of the Book of Mormon

37:33- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"I think there's a lot of that commercial side that we can set down when it comes to Easter. So for me, I guess I see Christmas as a season of giving and receiving in the Savior's way and when it comes to Easter, I see Easter focused on it's all about me receiving...it literally is just His divine gift that is given to all of us. It's a time for us to celebrate that gift, to appreciate it, maybe to emulate it but it's really all about receiving and I just think there's some tenderness in that."

Links:

Teaching Easter by Maria Eckersley

Elder Neal A. Maxwell- "The cavity which suffering carves into our souls will one day also be the receptacle of joy."

When Corby Campbell's backflip ended in paralysis, it could have marked the end of his dreams. Instead, it became the foundation of something greater. On this week's episode, Corby and his wife, Tess—whom he met while in his wheelchair—share how love found them in unexpected circumstances, what they've learned about healing, and why they believe the Lord's purpose for Corby's life wasn't ruined in the fall—it was only just beginning.

3:13- A Story Meant To Share

7:42- The Plan Wasn't Ruined

10:57- Challenges and Potential to Improve/Overcome

21:38- Patience

23:56- Grieving Unmet Expectations

28:26- Grateful To Not Be Healed

38:22- "Everyone Is Lame"

42:50- A Default Opportunity for Service

48:13- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"The Savior does not heal people as often as He can and He does that on purpose." -Tess Campbell