All Things Go

This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

In the first episode of All Things Go, Travis explains how he discovered Go and why he created an audio-first podcast about the game. He then speaks with game designer and author Frank Lantz about Go as an art form, the elegance of its rules, the balance between intuition and calculation, and what AlphaGo reveals about artificial intelligence. The conversation also explores why Go remains less visible than chess in the West and why Frank remains optimistic about its future.

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https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/27/frank-lantz-why-play-go-game-design-ai/

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• The AlphaGo documentary
• Frank Lantz's book The Beauty of Games and his article The Afterlife of Go
• Kageyama's Lessons in the Fundamentals of Go
• An excellent podcast episode about AI post-AlphaGo with Ezra Klein

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

Kim Ouweleen discusses Go-inspired art, teaching beginners, studying in Wuhan, and how AI has changed access to strong instruction. Travis examines why AI win-rate percentages can mislead amateur players, while Gazza White introduces the world of professional Go.

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https://allthingsgogame.com/2024/05/27/kim-ouweleen-murugandi-ai-win-rates-professional-go/

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• Kim Ouweleen/Murugandi's website
• A link to the Reddit post about the AI win rate Inaccuracy lecture
• A link to the Baduk.News article about using the above lecture to improve the AI win rate accuracy for BadukClub streaming events
• The AlphaGo documentary
• The Pro Go Baduk Weiqi Podcast that Gazza White co-hosts on YouTube

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

Kim Ouweleen recounts the creation of BadukMovies with Peter Brouwer, his work with EuroGoTV and the European Go Yearbook, and the origins of his Weird and Wonderful book series. Travis then joins Nathan Harwit to examine memorable Hikaru no Go scenes involving cheating, blindfold and one-color Go, simultaneous games, reverse komi, and copycat play.

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https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/27/kim-ouweleen-badukmovies-weird-wonderful-hikaru-no-go/

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• Kim Ouweleen/Murugandi's website
• The SmartGo website
• A link to the GoMagic.org interview about fun scenes in Hikaru no Go

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

TelegraphGo describes discovering Go, learning from two Chinese 4-dan classmates, reaching Fox 9-dan, streaming, teaching, and building accessible educational content. Gazza White compares the professional structures and championship narratives of Go and chess, Gabe explains corners-sides-center, and Travis reflects on the Dao-like contradictions of Go.

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https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/27/telegraphgo-streaming-go-vs-chess-dao-of-go/

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• TelegraphGo's YouTube channel
• Gabe's YouTube channel Strugglebus Go
• The Pro Go Baduk Weiqi Podcast that Gazza White co-hosts on YouTube

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

Gazza White introduces the Ing Cup and recommends professional players whose styles are worth following. TelegraphGo discusses his name, Twitch and YouTube work, collaboration with Do Eunkyo, Fox 9-dan milestone, and professional aspirations. Travis closes with lessons from Cho Hun-hyun’s Go with the Flow, including Lee Chang-ho’s rise, emotional discipline, and strategic flexibility.

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https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/28/ing-cup-telegraphgo-cho-hun-hyun-go-with-the-flow/

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• Gazza White's Reddit post about Ing Cup statistics and trivia...a must read
• Top Pros mentioned: Shin Jin-seo, Ke Jie, Byun Sang-il, Cho Chikun, Takemiya Masaki
• Telegraph Go's YouTube channel

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

Travis talks with his wife Carolina about how Go entered their household, then compares online and in-person play through community responses. Gazza White explains the 25th Nongshim Cup and the remarkable runs of Xie Erhao and Shin Jin-seo. Devin Fraze begins a wide-ranging interview about discovering Go, finding clubs while traveling, creating Baduk Club, Buddhist influences, and organizing Go communities.

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https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/28/online-vs-in-person-go-nongshim-cup-devin-fraze/

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• Reddit post about playing online versus in person
• The Nongshim Cup
• Devin's site Baduk.Club
• Devin's Baduk residency program

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

Devin Fraze explains why Go growth depends less on short-lived publicity spikes than on welcoming communities that retain players. Travis shares practical lessons from his own study, and Gazza White compares professional time controls across major Go systems.

Full transcript, related episodes, and additional resources:

https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/28/devin-fraze-growing-go-learning-insights-time-controls/

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• The Go "Poem" Book
• Devin's site Baduk.Club
• Devin's Baduk Residency Program
• Gazza's Pro Go Baduk Weiqi Podcast on YouTube

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

Go Magic co-founder Vadim Efimenko explains how the platform grew from an experimental video project into a polished learning system. Gazza White examines the gap between Asian and Western professional Go, while OGS moderator KoBa describes the hidden work of maintaining an online community.

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https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/28/vadim-efimenko-go-magic-professional-gap-ogs-moderator/

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• Go Magic website
• OGS Moderator KoBa's user profile

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

American Go journalist and broadcaster Chris Garlock recounts his path into the game, decades of community work, and his role in the historic AlphaGo broadcasts with Michael Redmond. The episode also explores connections between Go, Buddhism, attention, and the experience of learning the game.

Full transcript, related episodes, and additional resources:

https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/28/chris-garlock-alphago-american-go-media-buddhism/

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• Chris Garlock & Michael Redmond's book AlphaGo to Zero, Volume Two
• The AlphaGo documentary
• William Cobb's Book on Go & Buddhist Philosophy which is available on SmartGo Books
• A nice GoMagic article on Go & Buddhism and William Cobb's essays

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

Go teacher Ben Mantle, known as BenKyo, describes discovering Go through Hikaru no Go, training in Korea, learning competitive maturity, and leaving software development to teach full-time. The episode also examines how AI has changed professional style and decision-making.

Full transcript, related episodes, and additional resources:

https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/28/benkyo-go-teaching-korea-ai-professional-go/

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• The BenKyo League

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

Travis speaks with Shawn Ray, known online as Clossius, about building a life around teaching Go, developing the Clossi approach, and making the game more welcoming to beginners and casual players. Shawn explains how he moved away from a conventional desk job, why he emphasizes simple English terminology, how players can review games without becoming overly self-critical, and why playing more games often matters more than trying to play perfectly. The episode also includes Gazza White's discussion of the gender gap in professional Go and Travis's season-ending reflections on teaching, accessibility, losing, and growing the game in the West.

Full transcript, related episodes, and additional resources:

https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/27/clossius-clossi-approach-teaching-go-tsumego-dragon/

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• Clossius' website & Tsumego Dragon home page
• Xiaodai & Gazza White's Pro Go/Baduk/Weiqi Podcast on YouTube

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

After a listener shares a Go origin story, Travis speaks with professional player Michael Chen about childhood training, online play, teaching, competition, and the North American professional path. Later segments profile Shin Jin-seo and explore the value and pressure of in-person tournaments.

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https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/28/michael-chen-professional-go-shin-jinseo-tournaments/

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• Michael Chen's interview in the European Go Journal
• Ma Xiaochun's The Thirty-Six Stratagems Applied to Go
• Michael Chen's Twitch Channel
• Wikipedia pages for Go professionals: Shin Jin-seo, Lee Sedol, Lee Chang-ho, Cho Chikun, Ke Jie, Gu Li, Cho Hun-hyun, & Park Jungwhan
• US Go Congress
• TheNorth American Go Federation which runs the professional qualification tournament
• The online Fox Go Server
• The Toronto Go Spectacular tournament
• BenKyo's league and website

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

Travis reflects on ChatGPT, vagueness, and strategic language before speaking with Gabe of Strugglebus Go about teaching, streaming, improvement, and the psychology of play. Devin Fraze then discusses correspondence Go, tournaments, and why local clubs remain essential.

Full transcript, related episodes, and additional resources:

https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/28/strugglebus-go-tournaments-correspondence-local-clubs/

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• The "paradox of the heap"
• Strugglebus Go on YouTube & Twitch
• Magic the Gathering
• The Kiseido Go Server (KGS)
• Cho Chikun's famous "Teasuji"
• BenKyo's league and website
• The Online Go Server
• Devin Fraze's Baduk Club

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

In this episode, Travis speaks with former Korean professional and Go studies professor Chihyung Nam about the origins and historical development of Go, including its spread from China to Korea and Japan and the evolution of the 19x19 board. The episode also explores differences in professional dan promotion systems across countries and why rank alone may not accurately reflect playing strength. It closes with BenKyo discussing burnout, rest, varied study, and the value of staying adventurous while improving.

Full transcript, related episodes, and additional resources:

https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/27/chihyung-nam-history-of-go-dan-ranks-burnout/

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• The board game Quarto
• President Nam Chihyung with the International Society of Go Studies (ISGS)
• Netflix's Captivating the King
• Confucian Text Chunqiu
• Kibi no Makabi
• Sunjang Baduk
• The father of Korean Go, Cho Nam-chul
• Other pro players: Hsu Hao-hung, Lee Sedol, Cho Hun-hyun, Ichiriki Ryo& Cho Chikun
• The Ing Cup
• Japanese Go Association
• Korea Baduk Association
• Korean professional players Lee Sedol, female Kim Eunji and Chinese female Hua Xueming
• The Fujitsu Cup
• Video games Genshin impact and Zelda: Breath of the Wild
• Polish Pro Mateusz Surma and his site polegote.com
• BenKyo's league and website

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

Travis reflects on the feeling of being thoroughly outplayed, then speaks with author and teacher Jonathan Hop about learning, writing, translation, and explaining Go. The episode also compares Go with chess and explores the traditions that give clubs their identity.

Full transcript, related episodes, and additional resources:

https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/28/jonathan-hop-korea-go-study-chess-club-traditions/

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• Jonathan Hop's website Sunday Go Lessons
• BenKyo's league and website
• Devin Fraze's Baduk Club

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

Gazza White and Xiao Dai trace Rui Naiwei’s extraordinary international career. Travis explores Go-like tipping points in everyday life, BenKyo considers the ethics of sandbagging for instruction, and Hajin Lee begins recounting her path from childhood training to Korean professional Go.

Full transcript, related episodes, and additional resources:

https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/28/rui-naiwei-hajin-lee-sandbagging-go-everyday-life/

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• The famous ear-reddening game from the intro
• The Heap of Sand Paradox
• Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari
• Pro player Rui Naiwei
• BenKyo's league and website
• Hajin Lee's website which includes her book

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

Hajin Lee discusses friendship among professionals, tournament reviews, simultaneous games, the North American Go Federation, AlphaGo, and BadukPop. BenKyo compares Go and chess media, and Devin Fraze examines how school programs can lead children into lasting Go communities.

Full transcript, related episodes, and additional resources:

https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/28/hajin-lee-go-leadership-badukpop-school-programs/

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• Hajin Lee's website including her book
• The North American Go Federation
• Deep Mind's AlphaGo
• BadukPop
• Searching for Bobby Fischer
• BenKyo's league and website
• Devin Fraze's Baduk Club
• The American Go Foundation
• Ted Talk on Go

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

Travis reflects on a Trevor Noah conversation about AlphaGo and the way artificial intelligence changed perceptions of human creativity in Go. He then speaks with strong amateur player, teacher, and organizer Albert Yen about growing up around Go, tournament culture, teaching, and what makes in-person events meaningful. Gazza White highlights Ichiriki Ryo and the state of Japanese professional Go, while BenKyo answers a series of rapid-fire questions.

Full transcript, related episodes, and additional resources:

https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/28/trevor-noah-ai-go-organizer-albert-yen-pro-ichiriki-ryo-lightning-round-with-benkyo/

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• Trevor Noah's podcast What Now? with Trevor Noah
• The book Sapiens
• Albert Yen and his go teacher Jiang Mingjiu
• Ichiriki Ryo
• Lee Changho's games
• BenKyo's league and website

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

A family game of Go Fish prompts Travis to reflect on how difficult simple rules can feel to a true beginner and on the etiquette of winning and losing. Devin Fraze discusses how online Go events can become more engaging through commentary, visuals, and stronger production. BenKyo offers advice on balancing enjoyable study with work and life, while Marc L. Moskowitz introduces his book Go Nation and his research on Weiqi, masculinity, status, and social life in China.

Full transcript, related episodes, and additional resources:

https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/28/go-fish-online-go-events-lightning-round-part-ii-with-benkyo-go-nation-author-marc-moskowi/

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• Go Nation: Chinese Masculinities and the Game of Weiqi in China by Professor Marc L. Moskowitz
• BenKyo's league and website
• Devin Fraze's Baduk Club

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This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

Travis connects the idea of “aggressive friendliness” to handling trolling in online Go spaces. Marc L. Moskowitz continues his discussion of Go Nation, examining Weiqi, masculinity, status, and social change in China. Gazza White identifies encouraging developments in professional Go, BenKyo considers what could help Go grow in the West, and Devin Fraze compares tournament formats and the kinds of experiences they create for players.

Full transcript, related episodes, and additional resources:

https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/28/trolling-go-nation-author-marc-moskowitz-interview-part-ii-positive-pro-trends-benkyo-ligh/

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• Adam Grant's Rethinking podcast
• Go Nation: Chinese Masculinities and the Game of Weiqi in China by Professor Marc L. Moskowitz
• BenKyo's league and website
• Devin Fraze's Baduk Club
• The Burning Board Go Festival website

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