Anagoge Podcast

Can consciousness remain when the sense of self dissolves? Philosopher Jason K. Day examines ego dissolution through the phenomenology of psychedelic experience. Drawing on trip reports and his work with Dan Zahavi, he argues that experiences described as selfless can retain a radically minimal form of self-awareness. We discuss why careful description should precede explanation, the limits of psychedelic questionnaires, and what changes in attention reveal about the structure of experience.

The conversation also explores DMT entity encounters and the difficulty of separating description from interpretation. Day questions claims that psychedelics expand consciousness or provide privileged access to knowledge, discusses the relationship between Husserl and Buddhist philosophy, and explains the value of learning to grip experience without clinging to certainty. We close with drug policy, communal support, and a discussion of whether recreational play and public life can be sacred.

TIMESTAMPS

0:00:00 - Start 0:03:16 - Why Phenomenology Matters 0:07:19 - The Psychedelic Style of Experience 0:15:15 - Description Before Theory and Measurement 0:20:42 - Studying Psychedelic Trip Reports 0:32:16 - Rethinking Attention and Salience 0:44:56 - Gurwitsch's Field of Consciousness 0:50:37 - Restructuring Experience, Meaning and Possibility 1:02:34 - Bad Trips, Agency and Skill 1:09:17 - Knowledge, Ego Dissolution and Selfhood 1:20:24 - DMT Entities and Interpretive Limits 1:33:39 - Phenomenological Interviewing and Dialogue 1:37:58 - Husserl, Buddhism and Non-Clinging 1:48:47 - Drug Policy and Communal Support 1:52:57 - Sacredness, Play and Public Life

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Finnish philosopher and psychologist Jussi Jylkkä describes a mystical experience he had years before entering psychedelic research and explains the metaphysical agnosticism he developed from it. All metaphysical isms, he argues, are language games. Worldviews are like eyeglasses that become visible only when we learn to see them as models. Classical mystics overreach when they convert their experiences into claims about the ultimate nature of reality.

After we finished recording, Jussi contacted me because he felt that he had not been completely honest. Rather than replace the original conversation, we recorded a second part. Jussi discusses his Christian faith, his decision to join the Lutheran Church, and an experience in which he saw physical reality as the body of Christ. We then consider whether his philosophical agnosticism can coexist with personal faith, and whether Christianity offers an account of morality and spiritual direction that his earlier position lacked.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Meet Jussi Jylkkä

01:39 A Mystical Experience Without Drugs

07:06 Psychedelics Revealed Nothing New

12:49 Why Metaphysics Becomes Wordplay

20:44 Beyond Physicalism and Idealism

33:19 When Models Become Idols

45:11 Are Animals Already Enlightened?

48:24 The Zen Path

58:15 Knowing Reality Through Being

1:09:11 Compassion Without Morality

1:16:59 When Mystics Claim Too Much

1:39:21 AI as a Cognitive Mirror

1:45:11 Why Jussi Returned

1:49:33 Hiding His Christian Faith

1:51:14 Reality as Christ's Body

2:03:09 Why Christianity Resonated

2:16:04 Pantheism and the Fall

2:23:36 Convincing His Younger Self

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John Vervaeke returns to the podcast 5 years later to argue that the modern war between science and religion was always a mistake. A cognitive scientist at the University of Toronto, he makes the case that his own field needs religious studies: the first generation of the cognitive science of religion tried to explain religion away, smuggling in an unexamined naturalism and treating believers as defective. Vervaeke reframes religion not as a set of beliefs about a supernatural object but as a comprehensive orientation to meaning that the sciences themselves quietly presuppose.

The conversation ranges across relevance realization, the mystery of meaning as a Heisenberg-like complementarity of truth and relevance, his identity as a "Zen Neoplatonist," and the "semiotic symbiosis" by which traditions merge and correct one another. He closes on how someone in his position guards against becoming a guru, and on what, exactly, he means by God.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Introduction

1:28 Cognitive science as intellectual pilgrimage

14:38 Why cognitive science needs religious studies

27:30 Science, truth and relevance

36:50 Neoplatonism and the return to the sacred

51:18 Where Zen meets Neoplatonism

1:02:00 How religions and gods emerge

1:08:47 Criticism, reading and living between worlds

1:20:09 Religion beyond belief

1:35:12 The dangers of becoming a guru

1:47:28 Poetry and life mistakes

1:50:17 Underrated thinkers, self-deception and God

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Most people take it for granted that consciousness is the one thing science cannot explain. Julian Kiverstein thinks the problem has been set up backwards from the start. Rather than beginning with dead, inert matter and asking how it could ever give rise to experience, he inverts the question: start from lived experience, which is where phenomenology begins, and then ask how the physical world fits inside it. From that single move he rebuilds the story of how mind emerges from life, and argues the notorious "hard problem" looks far less intractable once you stop trying to squeeze consciousness out of physics.

An Assistant Professor of Neurophilosophy at the University of Amsterdam, Kiverstein has spent his career closing the gap between scientific explanation and first-person experience, working across phenomenology, 4E cognitive science, and psychiatry. We get into his Skilled Intentionality Framework and his account of affordances, the idea that the possibilities the world offers us are neither purely subjective nor purely objective but relational, arising between a living being and its environment. He makes the case that the brain is not literally a computer, only usefully modelled as one, and that treating the model as the reality is a fallacy of misplaced concreteness. There is no rain inside a weather simulation, and by the same logic no computation literally happening inside the skull.

TIMESTAMPS

0:00:00 Start

0:00:48 Meet Julian Kiverstein: A Career Between Disciplines

0:08:02 Why Varela's "Embodied Mind" Changed Everything

0:12:18 Does Phenomenology Dissolve the Hard Problem?

0:19:59 Where Does Consciousness Begin? Panpsychism vs Biopsychism

0:27:42 The Zombie Objection: Sense-Making "With the Lights Out"?

0:31:24 Sentience vs Sense-Making: A Smaller Gap Than You Think

0:35:54 Hans Jonas, Metabolism & the Origin of a Point of View

0:41:23 Starting From Consciousness, Not Physics

0:46:10 Neutral Monism & the Self-World Relation

0:51:32 Intentionality & the Birth of Skilled Intentionality

0:57:46 Dreyfus, AI & Why Computers Can't Cope

1:05:28 Was Dreyfus Faithful to Heidegger? Where He Went Wrong

1:15:52 Gibson, Affordances & Direct Perception

1:22:01 Is It Really Metaphysics, or Just Context?

1:30:01 Relational Realism: Salt, Solubility & the World We Know

1:36:02 Is the Mind a Computer? Models vs Reality

1:46:44 Marr, Whitehead & the Fallacy of Misplaced Concreteness

1:53:33 What Is Information? Bateson, Genes & Purpose

1:57:38 From Survival to Flourishing: Psychedelics & Unselfing

2:06:11 Living in Your Head While Studying the Body

2:13:31 What Keeps Him Up at Night: Philosophy Back Into Life

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The danger of AI, Allister Lee argues, is not that it lies to you but that it flatters you. A PhD candidate at the University of Exeter, Allister applies the phenomenology of Edith Stein to the failures of chatbots, coining "sycophantasy" for the way AI offers the form of empathy while lacking its substance: real otherness, real friction, real resistance. Without an "other" who can push back, recursive self-reflection becomes a closed loop that slides toward what the literature calls AI psychosis.

But Allister resists pure pessimism. AI is a "negative tool," a photographic negative that develops a hidden image of the intellectual vices we already had, and so hands us a reason to cultivate virtue and, above all, to recover wonder: the capacity to sit with not-knowing that drives all genuine inquiry. Along the way we get into friction as the mark of the real, whether the sacred can survive Heidegger's "enframing," and his essay on nostalgia and the "eternalisation of the present."

Note: Allister misspoke. Edith Stein first studied under Husserl in Göttingen, not Freiburg.

**TIMESTAMPS**

0:00 Start 1:24 Allister's work 2:23 Mass solitude and Edith Stein 4:44 Empathy as perception 12:11 Awe and the hidden depth of the other 18:40 Sycophantasy, AI flattery, AI psychosis, and the missing friction 31:09 Friction and the loss of the real 35:19 AI as a "negative tool" and Heidegger's enframing 41:07 Can we still perceive the sacred? 48:01 Wonder and sitting with not knowing 53:36 The child, instrumentalization, and unselfing 1:00:07 The aesthetics of nostalgia and the eternal present

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Hüseyin Beyköylü left medicine for cognitive science after an LSD experience, and five years later he's arguing that mainstream psychology and neuroscience are built on assumptions that systematically miss what matters most about the mind. This is a dense, careful conversation about epistemology, metaphysics, and why randomized controlled trials can't capture human transformation.

We get into the entropy-fluency hypothesis, how destabilization and reorganization cycle through every scale from insight to mystical experience, and why false fluency (the smoothness of a conspiracy theory, the comfort of a simplified worldview) is just as real as the real thing. In the second half, the conversation opens into metaphysics: what is truth, is there a ground, and does groundlessness mean nothing matters? Hüseyin draws on Madhyamaka, Spinoza, Karen Barad, and Varela to argue that reality is a cosmic play we actively participate in, and that truth is something you embody rather than correspond to.

TIMESTAMPS

0:00:00 - Introduction & Hüseyin's Background

0:02:16 - From Medicine to Psychedelic Research: The LSD Pivot

0:05:05 - Overview of Published Papers

0:06:31 - The 4P Model: Four Ways of Knowing

0:10:55 - Are the Categories Real? Yogacara, Madhyamaka & Reflexivity

0:17:53 - Language of Description vs. Language of Training

0:23:15 - What's Wrong with Therapy? Non-Propositional Transformation

0:28:18 - The Woo Problem: How to Evaluate Alternative Therapies

0:34:57 - Ergodicity, Idiographic Science & Complex Systems

0:43:31 - Hüseyin's Empirical Research: Time Series & Phase Transitions

0:48:42 - The Cognitive Continuum: From Fluency to Mystical Experience

0:55:48 - Relevance Realization & the Entropy-Fluency Hypothesis

1:02:24 - False Fluency, Conspirituality & Context-Dependence

1:12:23 - The Biggest Problems with Psychedelic Science & Neurophenomenology

1:27:39 - What Is Truth? Groundlessness, the Sacred & the Cosmic Play

2:05:57 - What Would You Tell Your Younger Self?

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Most philosophical work on psychedelics either reduces the experience to brain states or floats off into vague mysticism. Danny Forde carves a third path. He argues that psychedelics strip away the ego's narrative overlay and give you direct contact with reality as it actually is. The case is built on realist phenomenology, anti-psychologism, and a sober Platonism that treats essences as real but not otherworldly.

The episode is a sustained, sometimes contentious dialogue about whether that claim holds up: whether perception can ever be "raw," whether the minimal self really persists through ego dissolution, whether all traditions point at the same truth or differ in ways that matter ontologically, and whether psychedelic experience tells us about consciousness or about reality itself.

TIMESTAMPS 0:00 - Start 0:37 - Introduction: Danny Forde & Phenomenology of Psychedelic Experiences 1:55 - Danny's Background: Cork, UCC, and the Accidental Academic 4:15 - Wonder, Curiosity & Psychedelics as Fuel for Philosophy 6:29 - The First Trip: Vondelpark, Copelandia & The Great Shark Hunt 7:57 - Philosophy of Psychedelics in Academia: From Fringe to Legitimate 14:00 - Naturalism, Anti-Psychologism & the Limits of Science 27:50 - Realist Phenomenology: Sober Platonism & the Munich-Gottingen Circle 36:32 - Representationalism, Affordances & the Richness of Perception 47:03 - Ego-Free Seeing: Raw Perception vs. Sense-Making 55:15 - Language, Art & the Insufficiency of Words 58:23 - The Self in Psychedelic Experience: A Tripartite Model 71:03 - The Ground of Being, Noetic Conviction & Psychedelic Realism 82:08 - Essentialism: Defending Platonic Essences Against the Mainstream 91:50 - Perennialism, Tradition & the Problem of Religious Pluralism 108:00 - Semiotics of the Therapy Space & Future Work

Correction (28:12): The epistemic/non-epistemic seeing distinction is from Fred Dretske, not Kripke.

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Can technology save us? That question has been asked since the Industrial Revolution, and Heidi Campbell has spent 30 years studying how religious communities keep answering it. In this conversation, she walks through her Religious Social Shaping of Technology framework, showing that even the most conservative groups do not reject technology outright but filter it through their core values and authority structures. From the kosher cell phone in Israel to Zoom communion during the pandemic, the research reveals a consistent pattern that most popular narratives get wrong.

The conversation then turns to AI, where Campbell draws a sharp line between knowledge and wisdom. GPTs can organize information; they cannot interpret or embody it. She explains why religious AI chatbots inherit hidden biases from their construction, why the field's failure to distinguish between predictive, generative, and agentic systems is its biggest blind spot, and why the internet has shifted from a supplement to a substitute for religious life, especially among Gen Z. She closes with the recalibration that has redefined her own career: for a growing number of people, the first port of call for religion is no longer a physical community but a screen.

TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Start

1:29 How a 1996 Essay on Virtual Church Launched a Career

3:40 The Religious Social Shaping of Technology: Theory & Examples

7:32 Kosher Cell Phones, Chabad, and Evangelical Christians: Unlikely Parallels

8:45 Agency vs. Technological Determinism: Can We Still Choose?

11:42 Heidegger, Neutrality & the Market Forces Behind Technology

14:32 The Inherent Conflict Between Tech Values and Human Values

16:31 How Churches Responded to the Pandemic: Theology or Sociology?

19:11 The Communion-on-Screen Debate: Transubstantiation vs. Symbolic Practice

22:48 European Studies: CONTOC, RECOVERA & the Rise of Hybrid Worship

24:21 Four Models of the God-Technology Relationship

33:10 AI Chatbots, Jesus Bots & the Heidi Bot

35:02 Why GPTs Give Knowledge But Not Wisdom

39:10 The Blind Spot: AI Literacy in Theology & Religious Studies

42:36 From Supplement to Substitute: How the Internet Became the First Port of Call

45:06 Upcoming Books: Agentic AI, AI Slop & Religious Brain Rot

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Timothy Patitsas argues that Western ethics has the order of the transcendentals backwards. Truth and goodness come first in most traditions. But Patitsas, drawing from Greek Orthodox theology, argues that beauty must come first. Not beauty as aesthetics, but beauty as the force that draws you toward God, toward wholeness, and toward a life worth living.

In this conversation, we work through what that actually means: how liturgy functions as a structuring force analogous to high-reliability organizations like aircraft carriers, why asceticism follows naturally from eros rather than opposing it, and how trauma healing must proceed through concentric stages: stabilizing the animal first, then the relational human, then the deeper archaeological work. Patitsas draws on Christopher Alexander, Jane Jacobs, Roy Rappaport, and Jonathan Shay to connect the Orthodox vision to secular frameworks, while insisting that certain realities can only be known by crossing a threshold, not by argument.

TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Teaser

00:49 Background & The Ethics of Beauty

04:08 Growing Up Greek-American

11:41 Liturgical Knowing vs. Book Knowledge

18:10 Explaining Liturgy to Secular People

24:41 Why Religious Ritual Needs More Structure 28:12 The Aircraft Carrier Study: Three Systems of Order 36:41 Asceticism as a Consequence of Eros 42:41 Eros Unfolding into Agape

49:37 Jane Jacobs & The Secular Person

56:42 Meeting a Saint Changes Everything

1:04:37 Psychedelics, Faith & Threshold Experiences

1:12:38 The Berserk Mode & Dark Initiation

1:20:43 Talk Therapy, CBT & Trauma Healing

1:32:33 Beauty First vs. Truth First

1:39:36 Christ Crucified as Beauty

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How much of what you read are you actually missing? In this in person conversation recorded in Rome (full video on YouTube), comparative literature scholar Piero Boitani makes the case that most of us are functionally illiterate when it comes to the Western canon, not because we lack access to the texts, but because we lack the layered knowledge required to read them. He demonstrates this with a single word in Tolstoy that links The Death of Ivan Ilyich to Christ's crucifixion through Tolstoy's own Gospel translation, a connection invisible without Russian, Greek, and biblical literacy working simultaneously.

From there, the conversation expands into the thin border between philosophy and poetry, why both originate in Aristotelian wonder, and what exactly poetry can reach that philosophy cannot. Boitani traces how every major Western intellectual revival has been an attempt to recover antiquity, and argues that modern culture's refusal to look backward is not progress but a form of blindness. He closes with an unexpectedly blunt reflection on dying, fame, and whether literature offers any real defense against either.

00:00 Start

00:33 Introducing Piero Boitani and a 50 Year Career

04:21 Astronomy and the Necessity of Original Languages

09:43 Wonder as the Root of Philosophy and Poetry

18:47 The Ineffable in Dante and Modern Literature

27:19 Rejecting the Bifurcation of Science and Art

38:40 Plato and the Paradox of Poetic Truth

46:27 The Death of the Past and Historical Stratification

59:45 The Collapse of Antiquity and Medieval Renaissances

1:07:51 Translating the Timaeus Through the Ages

1:24:25 World Literature versus Universal History

1:35:56 Confronting Finitude and the Defense Against Death

1:49:10 The Illusion of Literary Immortality and Final Thoughts

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This is a in-person recorded podcast. The video is available on YouTube.

Michiel van Elk is an Associate Professor of Cognitive Psychology at Leiden University and head of the PRiSM Lab, where he studies the cognitive neuroscience of religion and psychedelic experiences. In this episode, we take a sober look at the current state of psychedelic science, moving beyond the cultural evangelism and media hype. Michiel critiques the biomedical model of psychedelic therapy, discusses the disappointing effect sizes in recent clinical trials, and highlights methodological issues like "breaking blind" and selection bias.

We explore why psychedelics are not a "reset" button for the brain but rather amplifiers of meaning, potentially functioning as "super placebos." The conversation covers the theoretical gaps in the field, contrasting the popular "entropic brain" hypotheses with the lack of solid empirical data. Michiel also outlines his vision for the future of the field: a move toward "sober science" that separates the study of these substances from the spiritual fervor that often surrounds them.

00:00 - Meet Michiel van Elk: Academic Background & The PRISM Lab

02:34 - The Role of Philosophy in Psychedelic Science

07:34 - Critiquing "Narrative Theories" in Psychology

11:09 - From Pentecostalism to Atheism: Michiel's Personal Journey

17:59 - Critiquing the Cognitive Science of Religion (CSR)

30:36 - "Absorption" & The Process of "Real-Making"

39:59 - The "More Real Than Real" Debate: Perception vs. Meaning

51:14 - The Flaws of the Biomedical Model & 4E Cognition

1:02:18 - Misconceptions & The Hype Bubble in Psychedelic Science

1:15:39 - The "Super Placebo" & The Meaning Response

1:19:09 - Can We Cultivate Transformation? Personality & Openness

1:22:39 - The "Einstein Effect" & Notable Research

1:28:59 - The Future: Toward a More "Sober" Psychedelic Science

1:33:44 - New Research: Magic Truffles & Natural Compounds

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Arthur Versluis is the author of Platonic Mysticism: Contemplative Science, Philosophy, Literature, and Art and a Professor of Religious Studies at Michigan State University. His work bridges the gap between rigorous scholarship and the experiential reality of spiritual traditions. We examine the transformative power of art and its ability to mediate between the material and the transcendent. Versluis highlights the Hudson River School and the concept of "Luminism," explaining how the visual representation of light in nature mirrors the internal experience of mystical illumination.

The discussion navigates the complex relationship between the "forms" of Plato and the direct experience of the divine, moving beyond the common accusations of dualism often leveled at the Platonic tradition. We explore the "apophatic" or negative theological tradition, comparing the insights of Western mystics like Meister Eckhart with the emptiness found in the Heart Sutra. Finally, Versluis shares how his background in agriculture informs his work ethic and how Western philosophy can be complemented by the precise "maps" of consciousness found in Vajrayana Buddhism.

0:00 - Introduction: Teaching Plato & The Allegory of the Cave

4:45 - The Eclipse of Platonism & The Dominance of Materialism

10:19 - Reframing the "Forms": Angels, Hierarchy & Non-Duality

16:11 - Gnosticism, The Heart Sutra, and the Apophatic Lineage

24:10 - Luminism: The Hudson River School & The Metaphysics of Art

33:59 - Kant vs. Schelling: Who Opens the Door to Mysticism?

40:21 - The Descent into Darkness & The Ancient Mysteries

50:38 - What is Perennial Philosophy? (Truth vs. Relativism)

58:52 - American Gurus & The Problem with New Age Spirituality

69:17 - Breaking Through the Materialistic Deception

75:23 - Farming, Buddhist Maps of Consciousness & Recovering the West

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This conversation explores the depths of Object-Oriented Ontology (OOO) and its radical departure from both analytic and continental philosophy traditions. Graham Harman explains the limitations of "literalism" in science and how great philosophy relies on intuition and rhetoric rather than just rational justification. We discuss the influence of Martin Heidegger's tool analysis and the difference between "real" and "sensual" objects. We also cover the role of architecture in philosophy and why art may be the only way to touch the reality of things.

00:00 - Introduction to Object-Oriented Ontology

05:00 - Heidegger, Husserl, and Tool Analysis

09:00 - The Critique of Literalism

15:00 - Aesthetics and Metaphor

17:50 - Defining "Objects" vs. Materialism

25:00 - Sacredness and Ethical Imperatives

37:50 - Object-Object Interaction

51:19 - Flat Ontology & Human Exceptionalism

55:00 - Animal Intelligence

1:07:50 - Intuition, Truth, and Justification

1:17:50 - Theology, Mysticism, and Essence

1:31:00 - Philosophy and Architecture

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This was the first real-life episode of the Anagoge Podcast, recorded in Portugal. The video of the conversation is available on YouTube. James Cooke is a neuroscientist, writer, and contemplative practitioner whose work bridges neuroscience, philosophy, and spirituality. In his recent book The Dawn of Mind, he proposes a bold reframing of consciousness—placing it not in the brain alone, but within the deeper relational dynamics of life itself.

In this episode, we explore James' formative mystical experience as a teenager and how it set him on a lifelong journey to understand consciousness through science rather than in opposition to it. We unpack his core thesis of non-dual naturalism, the idea that reality is fundamentally relational, not made up of separate objects, and that consciousness itself may be best understood as an embodied epistemic relation between organism and world.

We discuss the illusion of the self, the role of suffering in revealing the nature of reality, and how insights from contemplative practice intersect with recent developments in neuroscience and quantum physics. Along the way, we grapple with the philosophical implications of groundlessness, the nature of ethics in a world without selves, and the limits of scientific explanation.

0:00 Start

0:45 James Cooke's Background

2:29 Why a Mystical Experience Led to a Scientific Path

5:53 A Broad Overview of the Book's Thesis: Non-Dual Naturalism

9:52 The Epistemic Weight of Mystical Experiences

17:02 The "No-Self" Claim and the Groundlessness of Reality

23:48 How the Infinite Nature of Reality is Relevant to Everyday Life

29:32 The Link Between "No-Self" and Ethics

39:03 The Nuances of Reducing Suffering: Utilitarianism vs. Values

45:57 Defining Life and Consciousness

50:49 How This Perspective Addresses the Hard Problem of Consciousness

1:06:15 Comparing Model-Building in Life vs. AI (LLMs)

1:09:19 The Influence of Kant and the Problem of Anti-Realism

1:15:52 The Power of Stories, Symbols, and Conventional Reality

1:23:35 The Role of Value Systems vs. Survival in Predictive Processing

1:33:41 The Problem of The One and the Many

1:45:13 Exploring Duality

1:48:56 James Future Work

Transcript article: https://tiagovf.medium.com/the-self-consciousness-relationality-54a037bb60a1

My new book, In Search of the Infinite – A Psychedelic Memoir, is a personal and philosophical account written over seven years, tracing my journey through over a dozen psychedelic experiences. It explores the depths of human experience: suffering, beauty, doubt, and wonder, through the lens of altered states and introspection, gradually moving from a strictly rational worldview toward a renewed engagement with religion. Blending memoir with philosophical reflection, it explores a sincere, evolving search for truth and meaning.

Paperback/Amazon: https://amzn.eu/d/8MM0JhE Free Digital Version: https://psychedelicmemoir.com/

If you would like to connect with me on Instagram, you can do so at @tiagobooks: https://www.instagram.com/tiagobooks/

The intro song is by Lief Sjostrom, titled Peril, from the album 'Impossible Parade'. Website: https://liefsjostrom.com/ Album: https://liefsjostrom.bandcamp.com/album/impossible-parade

Alexander Jech is the Director of Undergraduate Studies for the Philosophy Department and a Faculty Affiliate at the Nanovic Institute for European Studies at the University of Notre Dame. His work often explores political philosophy, ethics, and the limits of language. In 2024, he published a new translation of Søren Kierkegaard's influential work, Fear and Trembling.

We explore Alexander's fascinating and serendipitous journey into studying Kierkegaard, which began somewhat reluctantly but blossomed into his main philosophical passion. We dive deep into the inseparable link between Kierkegaard's tumultuous personal life—marked by his complex relationship with his father and his famously broken engagement to Regina Olsen—and the development of his core philosophical ideas.

Alexander unpacks the intricate concept of indirect communication and the use of pseudonyms in works like "Either/Or". A significant portion of our conversation is dedicated to "Fear and Trembling," where we discuss the paradox of Abraham and Isaac, the nuances of translating the text, and the profound concept of the teleological suspension of the ethical, clarifying common misinterpretations along the way.

Finally, we connect Kierkegaard's thought to the modern day, exploring the "leap of faith" as a model for identity transformation. We discuss how this applies to overcoming addiction, the role of transformative or mystical experiences in creating new possibilities for the self, and the mysterious power of love and the sacred in grounding this leap.

0:00 - Introduction & Alexander's Background

3:26 - What Drew Alexander to Kierkegaard?

6:24 - The Serendipitous Path to Becoming a Kierkegaard Scholar

10:07 - Kierkegaard's Relevance for Students

10:38 - Teaching Kierkegaard & The Human Heart

15:20 - How Student Needs Led to a New "Fear and Trembling" Translation

18:12 - Kierkegaard's Historical & Philosophical Context (vs. Hegel & Romantics)

25:54 - The Link Between Kierkegaard's Personal Suffering & His Philosophy

28:05 - Factor 1: The Relationship with His Father

33:03 - Factor 2: The Relationship with Regina Olsen

38:31 - Factor 3: The Art of Indirect Communication

43:26 - How "Either/Or" Was a Tool to Repel Regina

48:14 - The Leap of Faith: Kierkegaard's Personal Failure with Regina

53:28 - Unpacking "Fear and Trembling": The Story of Abraham

58:02 - The Teleological Suspension of the Ethical

1:00:38 - The Correct Interpretation: Kierkegaard's Lack of Faith

1:05:22 - The Paradox of the Teleological Suspension of the Ethical

1:10:06 - Translating the Paradox: The Importance of "Intend" vs. "Want"

1:22:22 - Is Faith a Rejection of Practical Reason?

1:38:00 - The Role of the Revolutionary: Justifying Horrible Acts for a Greater Good?

1:47:17 - Applying Kierkegaard: The Leap, Identity & Transformative Experience

1:58:28 - The Sacred, Possibility, and Bridging the Gap

2:05:28 - Kierkegaard's Answer to the Addict: How to Make the Leap?

2:16:47 - Conclusion

This podcast is available in article format: https://tiagovf.medium.com/the-life-of-kierkegaards-life-the-leap-of-faith-41df3231981f

My new book, In Search of the Infinite – A Psychedelic Memoir, is a personal and philosophical account written over seven years, tracing my journey through over a dozen psychedelic experiences. It explores the depths of human experience: suffering, beauty, doubt, and wonder, through the lens of altered states and introspection, gradually moving from a strictly rational worldview toward a renewed engagement with religion. Blending memoir with philosophical reflection, it explores a sincere, evolving search for truth and meaning.

Paperback/Amazon: https://amzn.eu/d/8MM0JhE Free Digital Version: https://psychedelicmemoir.com/

If you would like to connect with me on Instagram, you can do so at @tiagobooks: https://www.instagram.com/tiagobooks/

The intro song is by Lief Sjostrom, titled Peril, from the album 'Impossible Parade'. Website: https://liefsjostrom.com/ Album: https://liefsjostrom.bandcamp.com/album/impossible-parade

Jean-Philippe Marceau is a writer and podcaster associated with The Symbolic World, often working with Jonathan Pageau. With an academic background in mathematics, theoretical computer science, and philosophy of mind, his new book addresses the contemporary "meaning crisis" through the lens of Christian metaphysics.

In this episode, we explore the core arguments of JP's book, "Post-Reductionist Christianity." They explore the limitations of reductive materialism, the importance of synthesizing insights from thinkers like Jonathan Pageau and John Vervaeke, and the structure of a post-reductionist worldview. The discussion navigates the metaphysics of emanation and emergence, different approaches to Christian apologetics, and the philosophical challenges posed by panpsychism and idealism, all while seeking a more meaningful understanding of reality.

The nature of consciousness is also covered, in addition to attention, and the profound ontological meaning of 'love', and its connection to the Logos. We grapple with the understanding of miracles, from simple dismissals to explore symbolic and causal interpretations. We tackle the concept of God as Creator in relation to 'The Good,' the idea of a 'naturalist Christianity,' difficulties within religious tradition and scripture, and finally, JP shares his experience with Christianity.

0:00 Introduction and JP's new book.

1:07 JP on the book's conciseness and its audience.

2:27 Synthesizing the worldviews of Jonathan Pageau and John Vervaeke.

7:47 The book's core argument against reductionism towards Christian metaphysics.

12:47 Personal narratives in books and initial feedback on JP's work.

21:47 Contrasting vision-based vs. forceful Christian apologetics methods.

26:17 The metaphysical concept of emanation versus emergence.

30:57 Debating panpsychism, phenomenal consciousness, and potentiality.

38:27 Idealism, metaphysical analogy, and Christianity's view of matter.

46:47 Consciousness, attention, ontological love, and basic sentience.

1:04:47 Ontological love defined and its relationship to the Logos.

1:13:57 Understanding miracles: symbolism, causality, and Christian metaphysics.

1:28:07 God as personal Creator versus the Platonic "Good."

1:41:57 "Naturalist Christianity" vs. traditional faith, scripture, and community.

1:52:17 JP's personal experience with Christianity

Get his book: https://store.thesymbolicworld.com/products/post-reductionist-christianity-a-way-out-of-the-meaning-crisis

My new book: "In Search of the Infinite - A Psychedelic Memoir":

https://amzn.eu/d/8MM0JhE

If you would like to connect with me on Instagram, you can do so at @tiagobooks

John Cottingham is Professor Emeritus of Philosophy at the University of Reading and an Honorary Fellow of St John's College, Oxford. Renowned for his work on Descartes, moral philosophy, and the philosophy of religion, he has authored over thirty books, including The Spiritual Dimension, Why Believe?, and Philosophy of Religion: Towards a More Humane Approach. His scholarship bridges analytic rigor with a deep concern for the emotional and spiritual dimensions of human life.

His latest book is In Search of the Soul: A Philosophical Essay: https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691174426/in-search-of-the-soul

In this episode, we explore Cottingham's call for a more 'humane' philosophy of religion—one that acknowledges the roles of emotion, ritual, and embodied practice in shaping belief. He critiques the overly abstract methods of contemporary philosophy and argues that genuine understanding of the sacred requires engaging the full range of human experience. We discuss how rituals and worship practices can be seen not merely as symbolic acts but as vital expressions of our search for meaning and connection.​

We also cover the interplay between science and spirituality, examining how a scientific worldview can either harm or coexist with a sense of the transcendent. Cottingham shares insights on the human longing for the good and how this desire points beyond material explanations, inviting a reevaluation of the role of religion in modern life.

Timestamps: 0:00:00 - Introduction 0:02:59 - Cottingham's Philosophical Journey & "Humane Perspective" 0:06:39 - Philosophy's Accessibility & Bridging the Gap for Non-Specialists 0:12:38 - The Starting Points of Religion 0:17:19 - Critiquing Scientism & the Need for a Broader Epistemology 0:25:33 - Grappling with Christian Doctrine vs. Science 0:38:49 - The Nature of "The Good": Platonic vs. Christian Conceptions 0:49:10 - The Necessity of Religious Practice 0:54:17 - Psychedelics and Spirituality 1:04:05 - Cottingham's Career Reflections 1:08:14 - Closing Remarks

My new book: "In Search of the Infinite - A Psychedelic Memoir":

https://amzn.eu/d/8MM0JhE

If you would like to connect with me on Instagram, you can do so at @tiagobooks

You can find the video recording with the slides at Anagoge's Podcast Youtube Channel.

Delivered at Kitarika 2024.

00:00:00 - Introduction

00:02:31 - Defining Reality

00:07:04 - Foundations of Cognition

00:12:30 - Affordances and Optimal Grip

00:14:26 - 4E Cognitive Science

00:21:46 - Transcendence, Music & Stories

00:28:58 - Music and the Sacred

00:36:03 - Dualities

00:41:30 - Enlightenment

00:45:00 - Practical Wisdom

00:47:00 - Hemispheric Differences

00:50:00 - Cognitive Science of Insight

00:52:00 - Cognitive Continuum

00:53:50 - Psychedelics

00:59:00 - Connectome Harmonics

01:02:00 - History & Culture of Music

In this episode, I have the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Joseph LeDoux, a world-renowned neuroscientist whose research primarily focuses on survival circuits and their impacts on emotions such as fear and anxiety.

Dr. LeDoux is the Henry and Lucy Moses Professor of Science at New York University, and director of the Emotional Brain Institute. He has made significant contributions to our understanding of the amygdala and its role in processing threats, elucidating the relationship between physiological responses, cognitive interpretations, and the conscious experience of emotions.

Our conversation takes us back to Dr. LeDoux's earliest work with split-brain patients, a fascinating area of study that naturally led him to explore questions of consciousness. From there, he shares the journey that took him from studying humans to focusing on animal models, particularly in relation to fear and anxiety.

We delve into the intricate nature of emotions, discussing two contrasting theories: the traditional view that emotions are universal and rooted in our biology and the constructivist theory, which posits that emotions are constructed and shaped by our culture and personal experiences. Dr. LeDoux offers a compelling argument that while innate circuits control behavior, the conscious experience of an emotion is a cognitive interpretation based on our personal narratives and cultural schemas.

We also explore the topic of attributing emotional states to animals. Dr. LeDoux provides an insightful perspective on the difficulties of this task, emphasizing the importance of distinguishing between physiological responses and conscious experiences and the potential dangers of anthropomorphizing animal behavior.

It's a fascinating journey into the depths of human emotion and the workings of our brain, offering valuable insights from one of the leading experts in the field. Whether you're a student of neuroscience, a curious learner, or simply interested in understanding the complexities of human emotion, this conversation will surely provide food for thought.

0:00:00 - Introduction

0:02:28 - The nature of emotions: biological or constructed theories

0:05:15 - The neuroscience of emotions and its foundation with split-brain patients

0:19:46 - Cognitive elements in emotions and the disconnect between physiological responses and the conscious experience of an emotion

0:27:27 - The role of biological neural circuits in emotional responses

0:31:05 - Emotional models and how emotional experiences are based on interpretation and shaped by language

0:39:47 - Attributing emotional states to animals and consciousness in mammals

0:56:48 - Joseph's career, the intersection of neuroscience and music, and his upcoming book

Long time no see! I hope to make the podcast more active this year. In this episode, I talk with Dr. Gregory Sadler, likely the most influential philosophy educator to exist. Sadler earned an M.A. and a Ph.D. in Philosophy from Southern Illinois University. He is the Founder of ReasonIO, a consulting company providing philosophy content, training, and consulting services.

He has reached impressive popularity on YouTube, and his channel has over 130.000 subscribers and 13 million views. He has helped me digest challenging thinkers with fantastic lectures explaining the main concepts while providing additional context and insights. His channel is an absolute gold mine for anyone interested in philosophy.

We talk about the process of learning philosophy, the importance of good teachers, considerations about translated works, secondary literature, philosophical biases, truth, and much more. It was a very engaging conversation and one of my favorite episodes!

Timestamps:

3:28 Sadler's expertise and background 6:09 Sadler's journey in philosophy 12:58 Being a good teacher 17:34 Students from non-philosophical backgrounds 19:48 Stoicism, Sartre, and Nietzsche in Sadler's philosophy views 23:43 Importance of the original language in philosophical works 36:24 Death of philosophy 47:26 Trade-offs between primary and secondary literature 57:28 Philosophical biases and autodidactism 1:04:12 Intersection of truth in philosophy and religion

Gregory Sadler's channel: https://www.youtube.com/@GregoryBSadler

Gregory Sadler's website: https://reasonio.wordpress.com/

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