Backpacker Radio

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by a couple of familiar faces- Katie and Elise- for a panel on backpacking myths that just refuse to die.

In this one, we cover the worst ways to blow your money for a thru-hike, why finding the perfect rain jacket might be a lifelong exercise in disappointment, discuss why carrying a satellite communicator doesn't mean you can outsource your survival to the SOS button, we cover the assumption that thru-hikers are all trust fund babies, make the case that a weeklong backpacking trip can actually be harder than a multi-month thru-hike, and of course we delve into bean soup theory.

We wrap the show with Trek Propaganda on swapping a $600 ultralight tent for a 5.5-ounce tarp, a Question of the Day about how many syllables are too many for a trail name, a Triple Crown of unconventional pets we wish we could have, a new Sun Hoodie Review of a dirt cheap option that earns a high score despite fitting like a muumuu, and a Mailbag from our dear Rachel about the absurd amount of work that goes into keeping her feet blister-free.

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Panel with Double Dip and Sauce

• Katie's Instagram
• Elise's Instagram

Time stamps & Questions

00:05:10 - Reminders: Join us for our LIVE holiday podcast in Denver! Apply to vlog or blog for the Trek, and listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon!

00:09:10 - Introducing today's panel

00:10:34 - Zach's Myth #1: You need ultralight gear to start backpacking

00:18:00 - Katie's Myth #1: If you find the right rain gear it will keep you dry

00:26:20 - Elise's Myth #1: Hitchhiking is super dangerous

00:34:00 - Zach's Myth #2: You need hiking boots

00:44:55 - Katie's Myth #2: Soap kills norovirus

00:52:50 - Elise's Myth #2: Thru-hikers are trust fund babies

01:01:18 - Zach's Myth #3: Multi-month backpacking trips are orders of magnitude harder than weeklong trips

01:11:40 - Katie's Myth #3: Ursacks are bearproof or rodent proof

01:25:09 - Elise's Myth #3: If you have a satellite communicator, you'll be safe

01:34:20 - Stay Salty Question: What is your hottest take in the world of backpacking?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: I Swapped My $600 Ultralight Tent for a 5.5 oz Tarp by Katie Jackson

QOTD: How many syllables is too many for a trail name?

Triple Crown of unconventional pets you want

Sun Hoodie Review: Ascend 3D Cool Aerotrek Knit Hoodie

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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A super big thank you to our Bob Peoples Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Go Bills, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Bret Mullins aka TakeOff, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "I Miss Chaunce" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Nathan, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, Brad & Blair from Thirteen Adventures, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ack, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jacob Cheely, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lucas Hamilton, Merle Watkins, Peter, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Tyler Powers.

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Segments

Trail Goss #6: Is the Triple Crown Overrated?

Trek Propaganda: What 800 Miles of Fart-Flavored CDT Cow Troughs Taught Me About Water Filtration by Katie Jackson

QOTD: Do you like pumpkin spice?

Sun Hoodie Review: Mountain Hardwear Crater Lake

Triple Crown of the weirdest wedding traditions

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Bob Peoples Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Go Bills, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Bret Mullins aka TakeOff, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "I Miss Chaunce" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Nathan, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, Brad & Blair from Thirteen Adventures, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ack, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jacob Cheely, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lucas Hamilton, Merle Watkins, Peter, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Tyler Powers.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are joined by Lloyd Vogel, CEO and co-founder of Garage Grown Gear, the online retailer feeding your obsessions with ultralight and cottage gear.

In this one, Lloyd walks us through building the business from his basement when his mom was helping keep sales alive, he opens up about the values misalignment that led Garage Grown Gear to stop carrying Enlightened Equipment, and Lloyd makes the case for assless rain chaps as a piece of gear that deserves more love.

We also cover how he's made himself nearly unreachable while remaining very much available on LinkedIn- and why he ditched his smartphone for a dumb phone, the surprising little gadget that outsells every individual product on the site by revenue, and he unveils his prediction for the next big innovation in UL gear.

We wrap the show with Trek Propaganda on what 800 miles of fart-flavored CDT cow troughs taught Katie about water filtration, a Question of the Day on whether pumpkin spice deserves the hype, a sun hoodie review of the Mountain Hardwear Crater Lake, and a Triple Crown of the weirdest wedding traditions.

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Interview with Lloyd Vogel

• Garage Grown Gear
• Lloyd's Instagram
• Lloyd's LinkedIn

Time stamps & Questions

00:05:55 - Reminders: Join us LIVE in Denver with Andrew Skurka, apply to vlog or blog for the Trek, and listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon!

00:09:00 - Introducing Lloyd

00:11:00 - What isn't appealing about a thru-hike?

00:13:35 - Why have you sworn off technology aside from LinkedIn?

00:20:00 - Discussion about connecting with thru-hikers without having thru-hiked

00:22:30 - Have there been negative consequences from your technology system?

00:25:00 - How does a product make it onto GGG?

00:29:25 - What is Garage Grown Gear and how did it get started?

00:33:20 - Did you merge with or acquire GGG?

00:36:05 - How did Garage Grown Gear operate the business model better?

00:37:30 - Which brands had immediate buy-in?

00:40:35 - How did you know to stick with the project versus jumping ship?

00:46:10 - Was there ever a point when your partner ever worried about your entrepreneurship?

00:49:20 - How did you set up the agreement with Enlightened Equipment?

00:53:10 - Do the businesses you work with ever ask you for business advice?

00:58:50 - What have been some of the biggest product successes?

01:02:20 - How do you pick which products to feature?

01:04:10 - Have you ever parted ways with a brand because their morals didn't align with yours?

01:09:14 - What does GGG do to amplify their mission of promoting the outdoors?

01:11:10 - What was it like to realize you could give away profits to causes you support?

01:12:56 - What are some of your most popular products right now?

01:20:25 - At what point did you realize the difference between gear enthusiasts and backpackers?

01:23:38 - What has GGG's role been in the rise of ultralight?

01:27:00 - What item do you think should be selling more?

01:28:30 - Why is it better for a consumer to order from GGG compared to directly from the brand?

01:34:25 - Have you considered private labeling anything?

01:36:00 - Do you do product exclusives on GGG?

01:38:15 - What is the most pervasive misconception about GGG?

01:43:30 - What gear do you see exploding in the next few years?

01:47:10 - When did you switch from the freebie being the lemon packet versus the toothbrush?

01:49:20 - Tell us about being a board member for the Superior Hiking Trail

01:51:30 - Where do you want GGG to be in five years?

01:53:15 - Peak Performance Question: What's your top performance enhancing or outdoors hack?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: What 800 Miles of Fart-Flavored CDT Cow Troughs Taught Me About Water Filtration by Katie Jackson

QOTD: Do you like pumpkin spice?

Sun Hoodie Review: Mountain Hardwear Crater Lake

Triple Crown of the weirdest wedding traditions

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Bob Peoples Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Go Bills, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Bret Mullins aka TakeOff, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "I Miss Chaunce" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Nathan, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, Brad & Blair from Thirteen Adventures, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ack, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jacob Cheely, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lucas Hamilton, Merle Watkins, Peter, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Tyler Powers.

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Segments

Trail Goss #5

Trek Propaganda

•

Do You Actually Like Thru Hiking, or Do You Just Like the Party Scene? By Peg Leg

•

A Typical PCT Thru-Hike Cost $10,000 in 2025. Here's How We Did It for Just $6,000 Each by Anna McKinney Smith

QOTD: Do you know what a triple deucer is?

Triple Crown of employees you are the most annoyed to interact with

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Bob Peoples Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Go Bills, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Bret Mullins aka TakeOff, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "I Miss Chaunce" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Nathan, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, Brad & Blair from Thirteen Adventures, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ack, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jacob Cheely, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lucas Hamilton, Merle Watkins, Peter, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Tyler Powers.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are joined by Eliza "Swerve" Sweeney, a textile design graduate who's taking on the CDT with an almost entirely homemade kit, including her backpack, tent, quilt, and even her underwear.

In this one, Eliza walks us through skipping her final physics exam to squeeze the PCT into her summer break, turning her senior design project into the gear she's now trusting to get her across the country, and learning to let herself take a damn zero after spending an entire thru-hike racing to get back to school.

We also cover the joys of stuffing a puffy jacket inside a tent at four in the morning while down feathers get in your hair and mouth, her innovative hiking pants design meant to remove friction at the hips, and her hiker bro quiz, which reveals that Sauce is twice the bro I am.

We wrap the show with Trek Propaganda on whether you actually like thru-hiking or just the party scene, how one couple hiked the PCT for roughly $12k (which is shocking- a budget thru-hike), a Question of the Day touching on the elusive triple deucer, and a Triple Crown of employees you're most annoyed to interact with.

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Interview with Eliza "Swerve" Sweeney

• Eliza's Instagram

Time stamps & Questions

00:05:30 - Reminders: Take the 2026 AT Thru-Hiker Survey, apply to vlog or blog for the Trek, and listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon!

00:08:55 - Introducing Eliza

00:13:20 - What's your trail name origin story?

00:14:20 - Did hiking the AT inspire your degree?

00:19:20 - Discussion about hiking the PCT in 100 days

00:23:00 - How has your CDT daily mileage compared to your earlier thru-hikes?

00:25:20 - Are you working in college to fund your thru-hikes?

00:28:00 - Discussion about fabrics

00:33:30 - What machinery did you use to create your pieces?

00:37:45 - What does the design process look like?

00:39:25 - Tell us about how you made your hiking underwear

00:42:00 - Were you nervous to start the trail with untested gear?

00:43:12 - How long did it take to make everything?

00:47:40 - Which gear item was the most time consuming and why?

00:51:00 - Discussion about quilt design and creation

00:53:15 - What was the biggest surprise pain in the ass?

00:56:45 - What fabric did you use for your tent?

00:59:30 - What are your career goals?

01:01:25 - How fast could you do the shorts if you made it more efficient?

01:02:20 - Tell us about making the fanny pack

01:04:50 - Tell us about making the down jacket

01:11:50 - Have you thought about what your dream job would be?

01:13:12 - How did you choose the fabric for your rain jacket?

01:15:30 - Discussion about shirt and pant fabrics

01:21:00 - Tell us about your overall baseweight

01:26:00 - What's your favorite luxury item?

01:29:27 - What is your hiker bro quiz?

01:46:49 - Peak Performance Question: What's your top performance enhancing or backpacking hack?

Segments

Trek Propaganda

• Do You Actually Like Thru Hiking, or Do You Just Like the Party Scene? By Peg Leg
• A Typical PCT Thru-Hike Cost $10,000 in 2025. Here's How We Did It for Just $6,000 Each by Anna McKinney Smith

QOTD: Do you know what a triple deucer is?

Triple Crown of employees you are the most annoyed to interact with

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Bob Peoples Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Go Bills, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Bret Mullins aka TakeOff, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "I Miss Chaunce" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Nathan, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, Brad & Blair from Thirteen Adventures, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ack, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jacob Cheely, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lucas Hamilton, Merle Watkins, Peter, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Tyler Powers.

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Hyperlite Mountain Gear: Use code "BPRADIO15" for 15% off at hyperlitemountaingear.com.

Segments

Trail Goss Episode 4: Influencer Fined for Petting Mount Rainier Marmot

Trek Propaganda: Dale "Grey Beard" Sanders, 91, Becomes Oldest Person to Thru-Hike the Appalachian Trail by Katie Jackson

QOTD: How long do you think you could evade the feds on trail after committing a white collar felony?

Trail Work Thing of the Week: Colorado Fourteeners Initiative

Triple Crown of minor discomforts that are actually major problems

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Bob Peoples Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Go Bills, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Bret Mullins aka TakeOff, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "I Miss Chaunce" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Nathan, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, Brad & Blair from Thirteen Adventures, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ack, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jacob Cheely, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lucas Hamilton, Merle Watkins, Peter, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Tyler Powers.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are joined by our longtime pal Austin McDaniel, aka P.I., a Triple Crowner, Ultralight masochist, and full-time tennis instructor.

In this one, we dive into Austin hiking the Ouachita Trail in ten days while recovering from COVID, navigating the Ozark Highlands Trail through freezing January temps, and surviving record-breaking 18-degree winter freezes on the Florida Trail.

We also cover his pitch for the "Arkansas Triple Crown" consisting of the Eagle Rock Loop, Buffalo River Trail, and Sylamore Trail, his gear hack of wearing a heavy fleece sleeping bag liner as a mid-layer hiking dress, and why he carried a plastic toy golf set and a toilet plunger along the AT.

We wrap the show with 91-year-old "Gray Beard" Sanders reclaiming his record as the oldest person to thru-hike the AT, a Question of the Day on how long we could evade the FBI on trail after committing a white-collar felony, a Triple Crown of minor discomforts that are actually major problems, and an all-time mailbag recounting what its author calls "Neptune's wrath" inside a Food Lion restroom.

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Interview with Austen McDaniel aka P.I.

• Austen's Instagram
• Austen's Youtube
• Triple Crowning in Three Years, Ultralight Tips, and Cold Soaking with Austen McDaniel (BPR #297)

Time stamps & Questions

00:05:20 - Reminders: Apply to vlog or blog for the Trek, sign up for the Trek's newsletter, and listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon!

00:09:35 - Introducing Austen

00:11:05 - Remind us of your trail name origin story

00:13:30 - How has your gear changed between trails?

00:15:00 - How much of your baseweight is from ultralight gear versus just not bringing things?

00:20:00 - What has been your coolest ultralight gear find?

00:22:54 - What's your midlayer?

00:26:20 - What's the coldest you've been on trail?

00:34:00 - How did the Christmas Eve hike alter your gear?

00:35:06 - How did you manage heat starting the trail later than usual?

00:36:50 - Tell us about the Arkansas Triple Crown

00:46:00 - Would you recommend someone do your Arkansas Triple Crown or pick one of Arkansas's longer trails?

00:47:30 - Tell us about your experience on the Ouachita Trail

00:49:40 - Give us the fast facts of the Ouachita Trail

00:54:15 - Do you get good views?

00:56:30 - Did you see wildlife?

01:00:05 - Is there a trail association?

01:01:25 - Why did you take a year off hiking?

01:04:10 - How fast is your tennis serve?

01:08:20 - Discussion about the best tennis players

01:14:10 - What makes a kid a great tennis player?

01:16:00 - What was the gap between the Ouachita Trail and the Ozark Highlands Trail?

01:20:00 - Discussion about terrain on the Ozark Highlands Trail

01:24:40 - Which of the two trails would you recommend to others?

01:28:20 - How did you decide to hike the Florida Trail?

01:32:00 - How did the Florida Trail compare to your expectations?

01:34:10 - What wildlife did you see on the Florida Trail?

01:40:00 - Yes or No: Would you recommend the Florida Trail to the average thru-hiker?

01:43:00 - Discussion about swimming and swim races

01:49:30 - Tell us your new gear hacks

01:53:50 - What's your big five for gear?

02:01:45 - Tell us about finding your old AT gear box

02:05:50 - What are your upcoming hiking plans?

02:10:00 - Discussion about cold weather on the Florida Trail

02:11:50 - Stay Salty Question: What's your hottest take in the world of backpacking or the outdoors?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Dale "Grey Beard" Sanders, 91, Becomes Oldest Person to Thru-Hike the Appalachian Trail by Katie Jackson

QOTD: How long do you think you could evade the feds on trail after committing a white collar felony?

Trail Work Thing of the Week

Triple Crown of minor discomforts that are actually major problems

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Bob Peoples Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Go Bills, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Bret Mullins aka TakeOff, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "I Miss Chaunce" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Nathan, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, Brad & Blair from Thirteen Adventures, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ack, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jacob Cheely, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lucas Hamilton, Merle Watkins, Peter, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Tyler Powers.

Segments

Trail News: Hiker Found Dead on Katahdin Was Reportedly an AT Thru-Hiker by Katie Jackson

Trek Propaganda: Ultralight Is Taking Over Thru-Hiking … Or Is It? by Kelly

QOTD: What's one hobby you wish you were good at and have actively tried but you continue to be bad?

Question Thing of the Week

Triple Crown of 'Back in my day's' - things that existed in your youth that no longer do

5 Star Review

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In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by Livvy "Stumbles" Weld, a Triple Crown thru-hiker, Trek Writer, and budding ultrarunner.

In this one, Livvy breaks down how a tub of frosting earned her the trail name "Sugar Mitts," how her own thru-hikes accidentally talked her dad into becoming a thru-hiker himself, and how a kitten she found under a car turned into her cat back home.

Livvy goes deep on how she was able to thru-hike the AT on less than $2,000 (nearly 75% less than the average AT thru-hike), her take as a former AMC hut crew member on the tension between thru-hikers and hut staff over limited work-for-stay spots, and the safety tricks she uses as a solo female hiker.

We wrap the show with a comparison between the perception and reality of ultralight backpacking taking over thru-hiking, what hobbies we are bad at, despite our best efforts, and the triple crown of back in my days.

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Interview with Livvy "Stumbles" Weld

• Livvy's Instagram
• Livvy's Trek Author page

Time stamps & Questions

00:06:04 - Reminders: Submit your hike finish photos, subscribe to The Trek's Youtube, and listen to our bonus content and episodes ad-free on Patreon!

00:08:30 - Introducing Stumbles

00:14:12 - Tell us your trail name saga

00:22:30 - Did using your regular name change how you felt about trail names in general?

00:25:00 - Discussion about the tension between AMC hut crew and thru-hikers

00:28:20 - What's the solution for thru-hikers in the Whites?

00:32:36 - Can people bribe their way into the huts?

00:35:28 - Discussion about getting into thru-hiking

00:37:38 - Did you do a gear shakedown at Mountain Crossings?

00:41:00 - Do you carry any luxury items?

00:43:00 - Walk us through your current big five gear list

00:45:40 - Discussion about sleeping pads

00:48:10 - Discussion about not using a pillow

00:49:46 - Discussion about shelter choice

00:51:31 - What's your response to ultralight skeptics?

00:52:40 - What quilt do you carry?

00:53:40 - Discussion about trail running shoes

00:55:25 - How long did each AT thru-hike take?

01:00:00 - Discussion about music and thru-hiking memories

01:03:30 - What headlamp did you use for night hiking?

01:04:25 - Were there big differences between your two AT hikes?

01:07:40 - Was it lonely hiking solo?

01:11:45 - How has solo hiking carried over into your post-trail life?

01:13:15 - Tell us about backyard ultras

01:17:29 - How was your 100-miler race?

01:22:06 - Tell us about your FKT attempt on the New England Trail

01:25:01 - Discussion about river crossings on the FKT route

01:26:01 - Discussion about thru-hiking the AT on $2,000

01:30:49 - Discussion about hiker boxes and scrounging for food

01:34:34 - Discussion about the worst hiker box food find

01:37:28 - Tell us the story of how you met your cat

01:41:25 - Tell us about your dad as a thru-hiker

01:44:14 - Do you have aspirations to do a hike with your dad?

01:45:21 - Stay Salty Question: What's your hottest take in the world of backpacking?

01:51:05 - Discussion about permethrin safety

01:54:30 - What strange things has thru-hiking done to your body?

01:57:40 - What snow was worse, PCT or CDT?

02:06:10 - Fuck, marry, kill: AT, PCT, CDT

02:10:40 - Would you rather double Triple Crown or hike the AT again?

02:11:08 - What's next for you?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Ultralight Is Taking Over Thru-Hiking … Or Is It? by Kelly

QOTD: What's one hobby you wish you were good at and have actively tried but you continue to be bad?

Question Thing of the Week

Triple Crown of 'Back in my day's' - things that existed in your youth that no longer do

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Segments

Trail Goss Episode 1

Trek Propaganda: From a Homemade Tent to Custom Shorts, She Made All Her Own Gear for the CDT

QOTD: What gear maintenance task do you take the most seriously / do the most consistently?

Triple Crown of people you absolutely do not want in the van for a road trip

Listener Voicemail

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In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by onX Backcountry and Topo Athletic, myself along with, Katie, and Jabba break down our recent hike of the Loowit Trail, a 31-mile loop circumnavigating Washington's active Mount St. Helens volcano.

In this one, we dive into the chaotic road-trip logistics that involved our rental van nearly melting down on on the way to the trailhead, navigating technical rope-assisted gullies and sharp lava boulder fields, trekking through the tree-barren northern blast zone, and a golden-hour summit at Windy Pass, and the nightmare of pitching our tents in 50-mph winds- some of us- without tent stakes.

We wrap the a CDT thru-hiker who is making damn near all of her own gear, we detail our most consistent gear maintenance routines, a Triple Crown of the worst people to share a road-trip van with, and a listener calls me out for speaking poorly of cold soaking- much respect to all the slop munchers out there.

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Interview with Jabba and Katie

• Katie's Instagram
• Jabba's Instagram

Time stamps & Questions

00:05:20 - Reminders: Apply to vlog or blog for the Trek, and listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon!

00:10:14 - Introducing the Loowit Trail

00:15:10 - Basic aspects of the Loowit Trail

00:18:13 - What permits and fees are needed for the trail?

00:20:40 - Discussion about clockwise direction and camping restrictions on the north side

00:22:38 - Tell us about Mount St. Helens' eruption history and volcanic activity

00:26:17 - What was the terrain actually like to hike?

00:28:53 - Discussion about the best season to hike the Loowit Trail

00:31:50 - What were the scenery highlights of the trail?

00:37:34 - How does this trail compare to other volcano circumnavigations?

00:44:26 - Discussion about water sources

00:53:20 - Discussion about clockwise vs. counterclockwise direction

00:55:56 - What gear do you need for this trail?

01:01:18 - Discussion about the trail's wildlife

01:04:18 - Discussion about playing odds are on the trail

01:10:15 - Tell us about the road trip debacle

01:20:05 - Tell us about Day 1 of hiking

01:27:20 - Discussion about whether the volcano was actively erupting

01:29:31 - Tell us about the blast zone and the climb up Windy Pass

01:32:40 - Tell us about pitching tents in 50 mph winds at Windy Pass

01:46:18 - Tell us about Day 2 of the hike

01:49:15 - Tell us about the final climb and post-hike recovery at the Airbnb

01:52:00 - What rating would you give the Loowit Trail?

01:53:35 - Peak Performance Question: What is your top performance enhancing or backpacking hack?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: From a Homemade Tent to Custom Shorts, She Made All Her Own Gear for the CDT

QOTD: What gear maintenance task do you take the most seriously / do the most consistently?

Triple Crown of people you absolutely do not want in the van for a road trip

Listener Voicemail

5 Star Review

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Segments

Trail Goss Episode 3

Trek Propaganda:

•

I Hiked 27.5 Miles Every Day for a Year: Here's Everything I Did To Thru-Hike Faster by Peg Leg

•

Day 154 – This is Where I Leave You by Brock "Dubs" Miller

•

Apply to be a Trek social media intern

QOTD: What is the worst thing you've ever smelled?

Triple Crown of the most annoyed professions

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ack, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jacob Cheely, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lucas Hamilton, Merle Watkins, Peter, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Tyler Powers.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by onX Backcountry and LMNT, we are joined by Michael "Broadway" Grant, a world traveler who has visited 56 countries, cycled across America, and is currently daily-vlogging his way through the PCT.

In this one, Broadway dives into getting bitten in the face by a six-pound chihuahua while hitching a ride to PCT Trail Days, his terrifying pitch-black 11:00 PM alpine start up Mount Whitney's snow chutes, and his infamous "Day 50" meltdown in the Sierra, where he melted a carbon trekking pole, burned holes through his sleeping bag, found two more in his tent, and sobbed on camera.

We also cover his epic Yosemite side quest featuring last-minute Half Dome permits and hot-tubbing with a park employee, how losing his mother to brain cancer shaped his reasons for being out here, and his hot takes on why catholes beat toilets and why ultralight gear isn't a requirement for thriving on trail.

We wrap the show with Pegleg's tips for covering bigger miles and a shout-out to Trek blogger Brock "Dubs" Miller finishing on Katahdin, a Question of the Day on the absolute worst things we've ever smelled, a Triple Crown of the most annoyed professions in existence, and we give news on a new job opening at The Trek.

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Interview with Michael "Broadway" Grant

• Michael's Instagram
• Michael's Trek Author page

Time stamps & Questions

00:06:55 - Reminders: Apply to vlog or blog for the Trek, take the 2026 AT Thru-Hiker survey, listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon!

00:13:04 - Introducing Broadway

00:16:45 - How has working through your thru-hike impacted the experience?

00:17:54 - Tell us about getting bitten in the face by a chihuahua

00:22:14 - Tell us about quitting your job to travel the world for 13 months

00:25:58 - Discussion about the Camino de Santiago and West Highland Way

00:30:13 - How did you get into long distance cycling across America?

00:32:10 - Fuck, marry, kill: thru-hiking, cycling, and adventure travel

00:34:59 - Tell us about the start of your PCT thru-hike

00:38:48 - What's it been like growing your following on Instagram?

00:43:46 - Discussion about Gen Z lingo and gay lingo

00:48:45 - What has it been like being a gay man on the PCT?

00:51:21 - Tell us about your epic Yosemite side quest

00:55:19 - Discussion about masculinity and thru-hiking culture

00:57:47 - How has the PCT given you more time to reflect than other adventures?

01:02:47 - When did grief turn into motivation?

01:06:53 - Discussion about Cheryl Strayed's Wild as inspiration

01:10:01 - Tell us about your terrifying Mount Whitney sunrise side quest

01:14:00 - Tell us about gear you've been loving

01:21:08 - Tell us about your infamous day 50 meltdown in the Sierra

01:28:38 - Discussion about sun hoodies

01:30:00 - Tell us your poop story

01:32:47 - What's been the best 3 day stretch of trail for you?

01:36:19 - Have you met other gay hikers on trail?

01:41:00 - What advice would you offer someone who wants to follow in your footsteps?

01:43:00 - Stay Salty Question: What's your hottest take in the world of backpacking?

Segments

Trek Propaganda:

• I Hiked 27.5 Miles Every Day for a Year: Here's Everything I Did To Thru-Hike Faster by Peg Leg
• Day 154 – This is Where I Leave You by Brock "Dubs" Miller
• Apply to be a Trek social media intern

QOTD: What is the worst thing you've ever smelled?

Triple Crown of the most annoyed professions

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ack, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jacob Cheely, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lucas Hamilton, Merle Watkins, Peter, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Tyler Powers.

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Segments

Trail Goss: Nick Fowler's PCT FKT

Trek Propaganda: Fastest PCT Hike in History: Nick Fowler's 45-Day Thru-Hike Sets New Overall FKT by Katie Jackson

QOTD: Predict one aspect of the Zeitgeist in 2040

Fantasy Football Thing of the Week

Triple Crown of emojis

5 Star Review

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In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by OnX Backcountry and Topo Athletic, we are joined yet again by our pal Whitney LaRuffa, known on trail as AllGood. AllGood has hiked thousands of miles with his K-9 companions over the years, including his first thru-hike of the AT way back in 1996. AllGood is one of the most entrenched figures in the world of hiker trash, with several thru-hikes under his belt, serving as former president of ALDHA-West, and having worked for several prominent brands in the industry, he eats, breathes, sleeps, and poos all things thru-hiking.

In this one, AllGood gives his take on Durston Gear's rapid rise, Big Agnes's early misstep pairing Dyneema tents with heavy buckles, and the challenge he foresees with Osprey's sewn in hip belt on their new UL pack, he breaks down the cost tradeoffs between Alula, DCF, and Robic pack fabrics, and he tells the story of how the Ultralight subreddit's roughly half million members helped sink a quilt brand's business, and why even a three person company needs a PR plan for when things go sideways online.

We also cover his philosophy that rain gear on trail is about staying warm rather than staying dry, why he still hasn't finished his Triple Crown despite years spent handing out certificates as ALDHA-West president, his love affair with Jolly, how he balances long-distance hiking with marriage and aging by leaning into shorter trips as his priorities shift, and his personal bucket list of trails.

We wrap the show with some big PCT FKT news, Katie devours a Big Mac as fast as she can in the name of improving her fantasy football draft slot, the triple crown of emojis, and we opine on what we think the zeitgeist will look like in the year 2040- flush with intentional grammar mishaps and shaming the shamers.

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Interview with Whitney La Ruffa aka Allgood

• Allgood's Instagram
• Allgood's Blog

Time stamps & Questions

00:06:00 - Reminders: Use code "donttrustafart" for 15% off hats at the Trek's store, sign up for the Trek's newsletter, listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon And 2026 AT thru-hikers: take the 2026 AT Hiker Survey here!!

00:10:50 - Introducing Allgood

00:12:30 - What's something you feel passionate about in the outdoor industry right now?

00:15:40 - Is it a net positive for the ultralight trend to become more mainstream?

00:19:40 - What's been your go-to pack recently?

00:21:12 - What are your thoughts on Durston Gear?

00:25:20 - Have you tested the Mountainsmith Zerk?

00:26:20 - What is your take on Alula?

00:31:25 - Discussion about rain gear

00:34:35 - Discussion about natural fibers vs plastic

00:38:00 - Is there a stinkiest fish?

00:38:50 - What's the product you've pushed for the most since joining Gossamer Gear?

00:43:05 - Is Alula more or less expensive than DCF?

00:46:00 - Discussion about gear longevity

00:49:15 - What's your take on the ultralight subreddit?

00:59:11 - Why haven't you hiked the PCT?

01:04:00 - Describe ALDHA-West and your role

01:06:30 - Discussion about the feeling of completing the Triple Crown

01:11:50 - Discussion about shorter vs longer trails

01:13:34 - How do you balance your hiking and your marriage?

01:19:15 - What trails and routes are currently at the top of your bucket list?

01:26:00 - Discussion about She-ra and the impact of wildfire smoke

01:35:27 - Peak Performance Question: What is your top performance enhancing or backpacking hack?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Fastest PCT Hike in History: Nick Fowler's 45-Day Thru-Hike Sets New Overall FKT by Katie Jackson

QOTD: Predict one aspect of the Zeitgeist in 2040

Fantasy Football Thing of the Week

Triple Crown of emojis

5 Star Review

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Segments

OR Echo Hoodie Review

Trek Propaganda

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10 Women-Owned Ultralight Gear Brands We Love by Katie Jackson

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This Fitness App Lets You Bet Cash on Your Own Steps. Are We All About To Be Rich? by Kelly Floro

Katie's Engagement Story

QOTD: What's your go to wedding dance move?

Dilemma Thing of the Week

Triple Crown of conditions you'd opt out of backpacking due to

Listener Voicemail (and leave us your own!)

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Bob Peoples Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "I Miss Chaunce" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, The Saint Louis Shaman, Thirteen Adventures, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ack, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lucas Hamilton, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, Sloan Alberhasky, and Tyler Powers.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by onX Backcountry and LMNT, we are joined by Bee Corrado, a backpacker, public school Spanish teacher, and outdoor content creator currently pushing her way through the Pacific Crest Trail.

In this one, we dive into how Bee almost adopted the trail name "crack sniffer", a bloody Sierra water crossing that almost earned her another trail name "sporin", and her midnight hike over Forester Pass in total darkness and snow.

Bee also shares why every thru-hiker should ditch their tramily for a period of time, her definitive trail cinnamon roll rankings, and why she's embracing her feral side and embracing her body hair.

We wrap the show with a rundown of the remainder of the PNW road trip, including an epic Seattle Hiker Meetup, Katie's breakdown of 10 women-owned ultralight gear brands, our go-to open bar wedding dance moves featuring Katie's on-camera worm, a Triple Crown of conditions that will force us to cancel a backpacking trip, a 10-year anniversary update from a former Badger-sponsored hiker, and a listener calls me out for shaming cold-soakers at the Seattle meetup.

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Interview with Bee Corado

• Bee's Website
• Bee's Instagram
• Bee's Youtube

Time stamps & Questions

00:06:50 - Road Trip Recap

00:14:20 - Reminders: Listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon!

00:15:50 - Introducing Bee

00:20:26 - What is your hygiene routine on the trail?

00:26:01 - What is your entryway into the outdoors?

00:29:03 - How did you learn about thru-hiking?

00:32:17 - Did the JMT permit come through for you?

00:33:35 - Why didn't you believe the PCT would become a reality?

00:38:06 - How do you find time for blogging, YouTube, and social media while hiking?

00:42:38 - Fuck, marry, kill: blogging, YouTube, short-form video?

00:46:05 - Tell us about your intentions to write a book

00:50:47 - Do you foresee thru-hiking remaining a part of your future?

00:56:42 - Tell us about the Rae Lakes Loop

01:03:20 - Did the Tahoe Rim Trail build your confidence that the PCT was attainable?

01:05:32 - Walk us through the PCT permit process

01:09:09 - What was the snow situation like when you entered the Sierra?

01:15:29 - Tell us about the midnight hike over Forester Pass in total darkness

01:21:29 - Discussion about getting stuck in Bishop with your Sierra tramily

01:24:03 - What are the best cinnamon rolls on the PCT?

01:31:13 - What sort of taste did the Sierra leave in your mouth?

01:32:53 - Tell us about the water crossings in the Sierra

01:34:44 - Discussion about your competitive gymnast background

01:37:30 - How else have you changed how you feel about your body?

01:38:45 - Discussion about the NorCal blues and burn sections

01:40:25 - How are you handling the Washington trail closures?

01:47:29 - What advice would you give to someone on the fence about thru-hiking?

01:50:03 - Stay Salty Question: What is your hottest take in the world of backpacking?

01:53:41 - Tell us about your hellacious morning (the slug and sprinkler incident)

Segments

Trek Propaganda

• 10 Women-Owned Ultralight Gear Brands We Love by Katie Jackson
• This Fitness App Lets You Bet Cash on Your Own Steps. Are We All About To Be Rich? by Kelly Floro

Katie's Engagement Story

QOTD: What's your go to wedding dance move?

Dilemma Thing of the Week

Triple Crown of conditions you'd opt out of backpacking due to

Listener Voicemail

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Bob Peoples Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "I Miss Chaunce" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, The Saint Louis Shaman, Thirteen Adventures, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ack, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lucas Hamilton, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, Sloan Alberhasky, and Tyler Powers.

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Segments

0:00 – Intro & Triple Crown survey discussion begins

26:02 – Tribute to Will Standish (CDT hiker who passed away)

36:08 – Bonus segment / gear talk begins

42:26 – Pacific Northwest trip best/worst stories

1:00:42 – Triple Crown of Foods You Can't Stop Eating

1:28:59 – Mailbag segment

1:31:29 – Five-star review shoutout

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Bob Peoples Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "I Miss Chaunce" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, The Saint Louis Shaman, Thirteen Adventures, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ack, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lucas Hamilton, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, Sloan Alberhasky, and Tyler Powers.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by onX Backcountry and Topo Athletic, we are joined by Miranda Webster, the creator behind Miranda Goes Outside- a former 12-year REI employee turned full-time outdoor content creator.

In this one, Miranda breaks down her journey from an outdoorsy novice working as an REI cashier to amassing over 200,000 YouTube subscribers, the detailed process of designing her popular Migo water bottle to fix the smart water bottle's flaws, and why she firmly believes creators should never gatekeep public land locations.

We also cover her tactics for managing POTS and chronic migraines in the backcountry, her go-to fueling strategy of packing tinned fish and liquid meal replacements, some of her standout current favorite backpacking gear, and her golden rules for creating YouTube content without selling out for cheap clicks.

We wrap the show with covering our personal bests and worsts from our Pacific Northwest road trip, a breakdown of the gear Katie relies on when she's not testing new products, I update my sun hoodie rankings with a new score for The North Face Summit Series, a Triple Crown of foods you physically can't stop eating once you start- including the incident with Jabba's burning penis, a of course a listener shares their poop story.

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Interview with Miranda Webster

• Miranda's Youtube
• Miranda's Instagram

Reminders: Apply to vlog or blog for the Trek, apply to be a Trail Correspondent, listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon, and subscribe to The Trek's Youtube!

10:33 – Miranda's origin story: from city kid to REI cashier

26:32 – Her gear philosophy and love of colorful gear

30:51 – Managing chronic migraines and POTS on trail

37:12 – The gatekeeping/geotagging debate

42:48 – How the YouTube channel started with Rainer at REI

56:03 – Designing the Migo water bottle

70:40 – Transition from REI scripted videos to her own brand

86:30 – Lessons from Rainer on YouTube success

1:41:02 – Peak performance/fueling: tinned fish and hydration

1:53:00 – Pacific Northwest road trip bests and worsts

2:11:03 – Triple Crown of foods you can't stop eating

2:39:30 – Listener mailbag and poop story

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A super big thank you to our Bob Peoples Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "I Miss Chaunce" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, The Saint Louis Shaman, Thirteen Adventures, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ack, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lucas Hamilton, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, Sloan Alberhasky, and Tyler Powers.

Segments

Fun Nutritional Facts

Trek Propaganda:

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Missing CDT Thru-Hiker Found Dead in Tetons by Kelly Floro

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Ch. 64 – Vermilion Valley & Vitamin I by Starlight

QOTD: If you could only eat one continent's cuisine for the rest of time, what would it be?

Batty Thing of the Week

Triple Crown of summer drinks

One-Minute Gear Review

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Bob Peoples Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "I Miss Chaunce" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, The Saint Louis Shaman, Thirteen Adventures, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ack, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lucas Hamilton, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, Sloan Alberhasky, and Tyler Powers.