Behaviour Speak with Ben Reiman

In this episode of Behaviour Speak, Ben Reiman welcomes Heather Sauyaq Jean Kwamboka Gordon, an Indigenous scholar, advocate, and community-engaged researcher whose work spans Alaska, the Arctic, Indigenous well-being, subsistence practices, climate action, and youth leadership.

Heather explores the deeper meaning of subsistence beyond food harvesting, describing it as a relationship of reciprocity, responsibility, nurturance, and connection with the natural world. She shares how Indigenous communities understand well-being through relationships with land, culture, language, spirituality, family, and future generations.

The conversation examines Indigenous methodologies, connectedness as a protective factor, the impacts of colonization on Arctic communities, and the role of youth leadership in addressing climate change and cultural revitalization. Heather also reflects on Inupiaq values such as humility, conflict resolution, honesty, and collective responsibility, offering lessons that extend far beyond Indigenous communities.

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Dr. Onowa McIvor Whitinui
https://www.uvic.ca/education/indigenous/our-faculty/profiles/mcivor-whitinui-onowa.php
Linda Tuhiwai Smith https://www.wananga.ac.nz/about/awanuiarangi-council/linda-tuhiwai-smith/
Ninilchik Village Tribe https://www.ninilchiktribe-nsn.gov/
Alice Spotted Bear and Walter Soboleff Commission on Native Children
https://nni.arizona.edu/commission-native-children-archives/home Global Indigenous Youth Summit on Climate Change https://futureearth.org/global-indigenous-youth-summit-on-climate-change/ Center for Native American Youth https://www.cnay.org/ Inuit Circumpolar Council https://www.inuitcircumpolar.com/

If you enjoyed this conversation with Heather, you may also be interested in these related Behaviour Speak episodes that explore Indigenous connectedness, leadership, cultural identity, climate action, psychology, and community wellness.

Episode 231: The Indigenous Connectedness Framework with Dr. Jessica Saniguq Ullrich

A deeper exploration of the Indigenous Connectedness Framework and the growing body of research examining the relationship between connectedness, culture, identity, spirituality, and wellness in Indigenous communities. This episode provides important context for many of the concepts discussed in Heather's conversation.

🔗Listen to Episode 231: The Indigenous Connectedness Framework with Dr. Jessica Saniguq Ullrich

Katisha Paul Part 1: Finding Her Voice - Indigenous Leadership, Resilience & Healing

In this powerful conversation, Katisha Paul shares her journey of leadership, advocacy, resilience, and healing. The episode highlights themes of identity, community, and Indigenous leadership that closely align with Heather's discussion of youth leadership and cultural connectedness.

🔗 Listen to Katisha Paul Part 1: Finding Her Voice

One Heart, One Mind: Indigenous Sovereignty, Climate Leadership and the Future

This episode explores Indigenous sovereignty, environmental stewardship, climate leadership, and collective action. Listeners interested in Heather's reflections on climate change and Indigenous youth leadership will find this an excellent companion episode.

🔗 Listen to One Heart, One Mind: Indigenous Sovereignty, Climate Leadership and the Future

The Future of Indigenous Psychology, Leadership, Identity and Community with Dr. Vicky Lomay

Dr. Vicky Lomay discusses Indigenous psychology, leadership development, identity, and community wellness. This episode complements Heather's discussion of Indigenous methodologies, strengths-based approaches, and pathways toward healthier communities.

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/the-future-of-indigenous-psychology-leadership-identity-and-community-with-dr-vicky-lomay/

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Explore the complete Behaviour Speak archive for additional conversations on Indigenous wellness

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Belle Stikeleather's career path has never followed a conventional route. Beginning with studies in diplomacy and international relations, she eventually found her way into special education, behaviour analysis, executive coaching, and nonprofit leadership. What connects these seemingly diverse pursuits is a commitment to helping people thrive through learning, connection, and opportunity.

In this conversation, Belle reflects on her early experiences as an educator in the Philippines, where a challenging classroom incident revealed the limits of her training and sparked a desire to better understand behaviour. That search ultimately led her to the Competent Learner Model (CLM), an experience she describes as transformational both professionally and personally.

Belle discusses the influence of mentors such as Vicki Tucci and Nipa, whose commitment to compassion, coaching, and learner success shaped her approach to leadership and behavioural practice. She also explains how CLM aligns with constructional approaches inspired by Israel Goldiamond and expanded by Joe Layng and colleagues.

The discussion moves beyond clinical practice into topics including executive coaching, resilience, online learning engagement, organizational leadership, employment opportunities for autistic adults, and community-based applications of behavioural science.

Listeners will hear Belle's vision for building stronger, more inclusive communities through collaboration rather than coercion, and learn why she believes behaviour analysts must continue finding creative ways to extend behavioural science beyond traditional service settings.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/T35q8duWgFQ

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/bellecstike/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/bellestike/ Conductive Connections https://conductiveconnections.org/

Behavioral Teaching Solutions

https://btsconsulting.info/

If you enjoyed this conversation with Belle, here are a few Behaviour Speak episodes that expand on many of the themes discussed in this episode, including the Competent Learner Model, constructional approaches, neurodiversity, and the growth of behaviour analysis in the Philippines.

Episode 209: Vicci Tucci and the Competent Learner Model with Nipa Bhuptani

Belle speaks extensively about the profound influence of Vicci Tucci and the Competent Learner Model (CLM) on her professional development. In this episode, Nipa Bhuptani shares the history, philosophy, and impact of CLM, offering valuable context for listeners interested in constructional approaches and generative learning repertoires.

Listen: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-209-vicci-tucci-and-the-competent-learning-model-with-nipa-bhuptani/

Episode 241: Behaviour Analysis in the Philippines with Razelle Kaye Castillo, Kristine Gomez, and Kathryn Mendoza

Belle reflects on her early experiences in the Philippines and how those experiences shaped her path into education and behaviour analysis. This episode explores the profession's development in the Philippines and highlights Filipino behaviour analysts expanding behavioural services and education.

Listen: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/ep-241-behaviour-analysis-in-the-philippines-with-razelle-kaye-castillo-bcaba-kristine-gomez-ma-bcba-kathryn-mendoza-ma-ed-bcba/

Incorporating Filipino Values in Behavioural Health with Dr. Pauline Tolentino-Pablo

For listeners interested in the intersection of culture, community, and behavioural practice, this conversation with Dr. Pauline Tolentino-Pablo examines how Filipino values can inform behavioural health services and strengthen culturally responsive care.

Listen: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/incorporating-filipino-values-in-behavioral-health-with-dr-pauline-tolentino-pablo-dbh-bcba/

Episode 122: Neurodiversity in the Workplace: A South Asian Perspective with Jagmeet Sangha

Belle discusses creating meaningful employment opportunities and building inclusive communities for neurodivergent individuals. This episode with Jagmeet Sangha explores neurodiversity in employment settings and offers a complementary perspective on workplace inclusion and strengths-based approaches.

Listen: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-122-neurodiversity-in-the-workplace-a-south-asian-perspective-with-jagmeet-sangha-ma-bcba/

When Sylvie Nguena's daughter Meghan was diagnosed with autism at age four, she began a journey that would eventually lead her from accounting to becoming a doctoral-level behaviour analyst, researcher, author, advocate, and international trainer. In this episode, Sylvie shares how her experiences as a parent shaped her career and inspired her mission to expand autism awareness, behaviour analytic services, and caregiver support both in the United States and Cameroon.

Sylvie discusses the cultural realities surrounding autism and developmental disabilities in Cameroon, where stigma and misconceptions often prevent families from accessing support. She describes how community-centred approaches, local partnerships, and culturally adapted interventions can help bridge service gaps while honouring the values and traditions of the communities being served.

The conversation also explores Acceptance and Commitment Training (ACTr), caregiver wellbeing, culturally responsive practice, community engagement, and the work of the Lewuh Marvellous Meghan Foundation. Throughout the discussion, Sylvie highlights the importance of listening first, partnering with local communities, and building sustainable systems that empower families and professionals alike.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/bBJdWWiibYA

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Dr. Sylvie Claire Nguena and The Lewuh Marvelous Meghan Foundation

https://lewuhmarvelousmeghanfinc.org

https://www.instagram.com/marvelous_meghan/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/sylvie-claire-nguena-ph-d-bcba-d-lba-iba-b9b704a6/en

Marvelous Meghan Book Series

Marvelous Meghan: Our Big Sister (English and French editions)
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=marvelous+meghan+our+big+sister
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=la+merveilleuse+meghan+notre+grande+soeur
Marvelous Meghan: Sometimes we Feel (English and French editions)
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=marvelous+meghan+sometimes+we+feel
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=la+merveilleuse+meghan+parfois+on+ressent

Looking for more conversations on representation, acceptance and commitment training, and expanding behaviour analytic services globally? Check out these related Behaviour Speak episodes:

🔹 Beyond the 5.83: Advancing Black Representation in ABA with Dr. Danielle Jeudy and Dr. Jewel Parham
Dr. Danielle Jeudy and Dr. Jewel Parham join the podcast to discuss representation, mentorship, leadership, and creating meaningful pathways for Black behaviour analysts

🔹Empowering Parents and Staff with Acceptance and Commitment Training with Dr. Ashley Carrigan
Dr. Ashley Carrigan explores how Acceptance and Commitment Training (ACT) can help parents, caregivers, and professionals build psychological flexibility, resilience, and values-based action in everyday practice.

🔹 Building Autism Services in Kenya and Tanzania: Dr. Pooja Panesar on Leadership, Inclusion and Behaviour Analysis
Dr. Pooja Panesar shares her experiences developing autism and behaviour analytic services in East Africa, highlighting the importance of cultural responsiveness, sustainable capacity building, community partnerships, and inclusive leadership.

In this inspiring episode of Behaviour Speak, Ben welcomes Dr. Pooja Panesar, behaviour analyst, Doctor of Behavioural Health, entrepreneur, educator, and founder of Kaizora Centre for Neurodevelopmental Therapies. Born and raised in Kenya, educated in Canada, and driven by a passion for helping children and families, Dr. Panesar shares her remarkable journey from working with a single child in a small room furnished with only a table and two chairs to building leading autism and neurodevelopmental services across Kenya and Tanzania. The conversation explores the evolution of autism services in East Africa, overcoming stigma, building professional capacity, integrating cultural humility with evidence-based practice, and creating interdisciplinary systems of care. Dr. Panesar also reflects on leadership, resilience, parenting, and her vision for the future of autism services across the continent. This episode offers powerful lessons for behaviour analysts, educators, healthcare professionals, parents, and anyone interested in creating meaningful systems change.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ycA180S1EgE

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BACB: 1.0 Ethics
IBAO: 1.0 Cultural
QABA: 1.0 General
CBA/CPD: 1.0 Cultural Diversity

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Dr. Pooja Panesar

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-pooja-panesar-31161872/

https://www.instagram.com/pooja_panesar/

Kaizora Centre for Neurodevelopmental Therapies

https://www.kaizora.com/

Autism Awareness Africa

https://www.facebook.com/groups/128237587206355/

Global Autism Project

https://www.globalautismproject.org/

QABA Credentialing https://qababoard.com/ Cummings Graduate Institute https://cgi.edu/ Related Behaviour Speak Episodes

If you enjoyed this conversation with Dr. Pooja Panesar and would like to learn more about the growth of behaviour analysis, autism services, and systems change across Africa, we encourage you to explore several related Behaviour Speak episodes.

These include:

From Sudan to Systems Change: Two Sisters Using Behavioural Science to Transform Community Health, featuring two sisters applying behavioural science to improve community health outcomes

The Somali Behaviour Analysis Association with Ikram Buralle, Rahma Farah, Suaad Jama, and Nasteya Mahamoud

Culturally Responsive Screening Tools for Autism and/or Intellectual Disabilities in Nigeria with Dr. Eziafakaku Nwokolo

Behaviour Analysis in Ghana and Nigeria with Josephine Akure and Joy Oviojie

Behaviour Analysis in Botswana with Maleshwane Mauco; and Behaviour Analysis in Senegal with Adair Cardon.

Together, these conversations showcase the remarkable leadership, innovation, and commitment of professionals working to expand access to behavioural and developmental services across the African continent.

What happens when psychology is viewed through the lens of Indigenous knowledge, community, language, and lived experience?

In this episode, Ben welcomes Dr. Vicky Lomay, a Navajo (Diné) clinical psychologist, assessment specialist, educator, and leader in Indigenous psychology. Dr. Lomay shares her journey from engineering student to psychologist and reflects on how growing up in a bilingual Navajo household shaped her understanding of healing, wellness, and human behaviour.

The conversation explores the intersections between Indigenous knowledge systems and Western psychology, including cultural impacts on assessment, diagnosis, trauma treatment, and mental health care. Dr. Lomay discusses why many traditional Indigenous healing approaches represent generations of what she calls "practice-based evidence," long before Western psychology developed similar concepts and terminology.

Ben and Dr. Lomay also discuss the challenges of psychological assessment in Indigenous communities, the risks of cultural misinterpretation during evaluation, and the importance of understanding language, history, ceremony, and context when working with Indigenous clients.

The episode concludes with a discussion about leadership, mentorship, and the future of Indigenous psychology through organizations such as the Society of Indian Psychologists and the American Psychological Association's American Indian and Alaska Native Section.

Watch the video! https://youtu.be/3K-L9uVa6gs

Connect with Dr. Vicky Lomay

Tsinajini Psychology Services

https://tsinajinipsych.com/

LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/vicky-t-lomay-phd-5320626/

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/tsinajini_psychology

Society of Indian Psychologists (SIP) https://www.nativepsychs.org/ Alaska Native/American Indian/Indigenous Women (Section 6 of the Society For The Psychology of Women) https://www.div35.org/sec6

If you enjoyed this episode, you may also enjoy these previous conversations exploring Indigenous knowledge, mentorship, cultural responsiveness, and decolonizing psychology:

From Invisibility to Belonging: When Indigenous Students Finally Feel Seen
Featuring Mikala Chee, Sanoe Rapozo, and Abbey Woldt
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/from-invisibility-to-belonging-when-indigenous-students-finally-feel-seen-with-mikala-chee-sanoe-rapozo-and-abbey-woldt/

Mentorship as Medicine with Dr. Anna Kawenní:io Fetter
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/268-mentorship-as-medicine-with-anna-kawennison-fetter-phd-edm/

The Sweetgrass Method with Dr. Mark Standing Eagle Baez
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-111-the-sweetgrass-method-a-culturally-responsive-approach-among-american-indianalaska-native-peoples-with-dr-mark-standing-eagle-baez/

The Decolonization of the Mind with Dr. Michael Yellow Bird
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-162-the-decolonization-of-the-mind-with-dr-michael-yellow-bird/

Explore the full Indigenous Voices collection: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/category/indigenous-voices

What can studying perspective taking tell us about relationships, dating violence, and the experiences of neurodivergent people?

In this episode, Ben sits down with Ashley Rodrigues, a graduate student in Western University’s School and Applied Child Psychology program and lab manager with the Living Organisms Learning Lab. Ashley describes how her early experiences seeking mental-health support helped shape her interest in psychology, school-based services, and research with neurodivergent people.

The conversation centres on Ashley’s research examining perspective taking and dating-violence-related outcomes among post-secondary students with ADHD, autism, and neurotypical participants. She explains emotional perspective taking through a Relational Frame Theory lens and describes how the study moves beyond self-report by using a behavioural perspective-taking task.

Ashley also walks Ben through the evolving findings from the project and some important cautions around interpreting differences between groups. They discuss social communication, working memory, social desirability, masking, literal interpretation of questions, heterogeneity within autism, and the possibility that measurement itself can influence apparent differences.

The conversation becomes personal as Ashley discusses being diagnosed with both ADHD and autism at age 22 following earlier explanations centred on anxiety and related concerns. She and Ben explore what lived experience can bring to clinical relationships and research, particularly when people's experiences do not fit conventional expectations of how neurodivergence presents.

Finally, Ashley shares what happened when she presented this work very early in her graduate career at an Ontario behaviour analysis conference. What began with uncertainty about whether she belonged turned into productive interdisciplinary conversations and a poster award.

Contact Ashley

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyvrod/

Links

Living Organisms Lab

https://www.livingorganismslearninglab.ca/

For another perspective on autism, relationships, and interpersonal violence, listen to my conversation with Amy Pearson about autistic lived experience, masking, relationships, and her research into intimate partner violence and abuse.

🎧 The Hidden Cost of Masking: Autism, Identity and Authenticity with Dr. Amy Pearson

Dr. Don Togade came to behaviour analysis through a deeply personal journey, one that began with trying to better understand himself.

Don and Ben explore how that journey now shapes the way he teaches future behaviour analysts, from mindfulness, gratitude, and self-monitoring to cultural humility, feedback, and interdisciplinary collaboration. They also discuss AI, professional regulation, Mindful Seeds, and what Don sees as perhaps the most meaningful outcome of his career: becoming a kinder person.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/mIe-KuWHadQ

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Mindful Seeds

George Brown Polytechnic School of Behavioural Science

Don's LinkedIn Profile Related Behaviour Speak Episodes

If you’d like to continue exploring themes from this conversation:

• Interteaching with Dr. Rocío Rosales: A deep dive into interteaching and the behavioural design of college instruction.
• Humility, Compassion, and Reflection with Dr. Nasiah Cirincione-Ulezi and Dr. Jonathan Tarbox: Extends Don’s discussion of self-reflection, humility, compassion, and kindness in behaviour analysis.
• Behaviour Analysis in the Philippines with Razelle Kaye Castillo, Kristine Gomez & Kathryn Mendoza: Explores behaviour analysis in the Philippines, including culture, ethics, accessibility, and professional community-building.

In this powerful and deeply personal conversation, Ben Reiman sits down with Indigenous educator, consultant, speaker, and entrepreneur Len Pierre. Grounding the discussion in his Coast Salish identity and his roots in Katzie First Nation, Len shares his journey of cultural reclamation, receiving his ancestral name, and learning to navigate both Indigenous and colonial worlds.

Len explores the history and teachings of Katzie territory, the importance of language revitalization, and the role of community in identity, healing, and belonging. He discusses how Indigenous worldviews challenge Western assumptions about individualism, perfectionism, privilege, trauma, and leadership.

The conversation also examines reconciliation in contemporary Canada, the distinction between reconciliation and conventional DEI initiatives, and why meaningful change must move at the speed of trust rather than the speed of institutions. Len shares lessons from building Len Pierre Consulting, supporting organizations on their reconciliation journeys, and helping people understand that Indigenous peoples are not defined by trauma but by generations of strength, resilience, and wisdom.

Whether you work in education, healthcare, social services, leadership, or want to deepen your understanding of Indigenous perspectives, this episode offers a thought-provoking and hopeful exploration of how relationships, culture, and community can help us all navigate today's challenges.

Learn More About Len Pierre
https://lenpierreconsulting.com Follow Len Pierre
https://www.linkedin.com/in/len-pierre/ https://www.instagram.com/lenjpierre/
https://www.youtube.com/@lenpierreconsulting https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61575539922006 Nut'semot (One Heart, One Mind) - LPC Podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/58QRdHYguAqUS6wl7oiljk?si=ef9400843e5347da

If this conversation with Len Pierre resonated with you, we encourage you to explore more Indigenous voices featured on Behaviour Speak. These episodes offer diverse perspectives on reconciliation, Indigenous rights, leadership, disability, community wellness, allyship, and social justice. Together, they provide a deeper understanding of the lived experiences, strengths, knowledge systems, and leadership of Indigenous peoples across Canada.

Featured Episodes

Dr. Tibetha Kemble
What Are You Willing to Lose? Settler Colonialism and Reconciliation
A thought-provoking conversation examining settler colonialism, power, privilege, and the uncomfortable realities of reconciliation. Dr. Kemble challenges listeners to consider what meaningful reconciliation requires of individuals, organizations, and systems, and why transformational change often demands more than symbolic gestures.

🔗 https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/what-are-you-willing-to-lose-settler-colonialism-and-reconciliation-with-dr-tibetha-kemble/

Katisha Paul
Katisha Paul brings powerful perspectives on Indigenous advocacy, leadership, representation, and community empowerment. This conversation explores the importance of Indigenous leadership in decision-making spaces and highlights pathways toward creating systems that better serve Indigenous communities while honouring Indigenous ways of knowing and being.

🔗 https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/one-heart-one-mind-indigenous-sovereignty-climate-leadership-and-the-future/

Raven Lacerte
Ending Gender-Based Violence One Conversation at a Time
Founder of the Moose Hide Campaign, Raven Lacerte discusses the movement to end gender-based violence and the collective responsibility we all share in creating safer communities. This episode explores allyship, accountability, healing, and how difficult conversations can become catalysts for meaningful change.

🔗 https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/raven-lacerte-ending-gender-based-violence-one-conversation-at-a-time/

Grant Bruno
The Realities of Autism in First Nations Communities in Canada
Grant Bruno shares important insights into the intersection of autism, disability, Indigenous identity, and service access. This conversation explores barriers faced by Indigenous families, the importance of culturally responsive supports, and how disability and Indigenous advocacy can work together toward more equitable systems.

🔗 https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-37-the-realities-of-autism-in-first-nations-communities-in-canada-with-grant-bruno-phd/

Explore the Indigenous Voices Collection

Behaviour Speak has featured many Indigenous guests over the years, including scholars, advocates, practitioners, Elders, activists, and community leaders. To browse the full collection of Indigenous-focused episodes, visit:

🔗 https://www.behaviourspeak.com/category/indigenous-voices

These conversations reflect a wide range of experiences and perspectives, reminding us that Indigenous peoples are not a single story. They are diverse nations, communities, cultures, and knowledge keepers whose voices continue to shape conversations about reconciliation, social justice, health, education, disability, leadership, and belonging

What happens when community, culture, behavioural science, and public health intersect?

In this inspiring conversation, Ben Reiman sits down with sisters Ruaa Hassaballa and Ithar Hassaballa, two behavioural scientists whose journey began in Sudan and evolved into careers dedicated to health equity, systems change, community engagement, and global health.

The sisters share how their upbringing in Sudan, immigration to the United States, and the influence of parents rooted in teaching, anthropology, and service shaped their understanding of humanity, resilience, and collective care. They discuss the values that continue to guide their work, including curiosity, integrity, community, and cultural humility.

The conversation explores how behavioural science extends far beyond individual behaviour change and can be applied to entire communities and systems. Through stories from diabetes prevention, Ebola response efforts, COVID-19 equity initiatives, global health leadership, and maternal health work, Ruaa and Ithar illustrate why trust, relationships, and lived experience are essential ingredients for meaningful change.

Listeners will also discover how community members serve as experts in their own lives, why cultural humility may be more powerful than cultural competence, and what it takes to create conditions where individuals and communities can truly thrive.

This episode is a masterclass in systems thinking, health equity, behavioural science, and the power of listening.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/0Gc0T_tU6Pw

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Ithar Hassaballa

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ithar-hassaballa/

https://communityhealth.ku.edu/people/ithar-hassaballa-mph-phd-who-fellow

https://common-ground-advisors.com/

Ruaa Hassaballa

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruaa-hassaballa/

KU Center for Community Health and Development

https://communityhealth.ku.edu/

Dr. Stephen Fawcett

https://communityhealth.ku.edu/people/stephen-b-fawcett-phd

Hzssaballa Omar Hassabala

https://www.interurbanarthouse.org/tangled-roots-exhibition-2020

https://youtu.be/O4mVCfPfVDQ?si=U4t_jdwxH-QrY53y

Research Discussed

Phori PM, Fawcett S, Nidjergou NN, Silouakadila C, Hassaballa R, Siku DK. Participatory Monitoring and Evaluation of the COVID-19 Response in the Africa Region. Health Promotion Practice. 2023;24(3):432-443. doi:10.1177/15248399221095524

Munodawafa, D., Moeti, M.R., Phori, P.M. et al. Monitoring and Evaluating the Ebola Response Effort in Two Liberian Communities. J Community Health 43, 321–327 (2018). https://doi.org/10.1007/s10900-017-0425-5

Fawcett S, Holt C, Solar-Hormazabal O, et al. Equity Lens Protocol: Reflecting on Harms From the COVID-19 Response and Mitigation Strategies Implemented in a Local Public Health System. Health Promotion Practice. 2024;25(4):526-530. doi:10.1177/15248399231173702

Watson-Thompson, J., Hassaballa, R.H., Valentini, S.H. et al. Actively Addressing Systemic Racism Using a Behavioral Community Approach. Behav. Soc. Iss. 31, 297–326 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1007/s42822-022-00101-6

In this conversation, Dr. Amy Pearson shares her personal and professional journey in autism research, discussing her experiences as a late-diagnosed autistic individual and the impact of her lived experience on her research. She explores the challenges of navigating the academic landscape as an autistic researcher, the importance of neurodiversity affirming practices, and the need for a shift from deficit-based models to a more inclusive understanding of autism. The discussion highlights the ethical considerations in autism research and the significance of aligning research with the values of the autistic community. This conversation delves into the perceptions of autistic individuals, particularly focusing on the experiences of non-speaking individuals and the biases that exist within neurotypical perspectives. It explores the complexities of family dynamics, the importance of support for individuals with high needs, and the reflections on ABA tutoring experiences. The discussion also addresses the concept of masking in autism, its implications, and the challenges of navigating social expectations while striving for authenticity. In this conversation, Amy Pearson and Ben Reiman explore the evolving understanding of authenticity, the significance of stimming in autistic identity, and the complexities of relationships within the autistic community. They discuss misconceptions surrounding autistic intimacy, the portrayal of neurodivergent relationships in media, and the critical issue of intimate partner violence faced by autistic individuals. The conversation emphasizes the need for a deeper understanding of autistic experiences and the importance of fostering acceptance and support in relationships. In this conversation, Amy Pearson discusses the complexities of autistic experiences, particularly in relation to interpersonal violence, emotional well-being, and the importance of support systems in research. She highlights the need for awareness of red flags in relationships, the intersection of autism with menopause, and the influence of key figures in autism research. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding and validating autistic experiences while advocating for systemic changes to improve the lives of autistic individuals

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/h9UUG0zr1f4

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Amy Pearson

https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-pearson-359b83303/

https://www.durham.ac.uk/staff/amy-pearson/

Links and Resources

Authoring Autism by M. Remi Yergeau

https://www.dukeupress.edu/authoring-autism

Dr. Pearson's Amazing Colleagues Mentioned

Kieron Rose

https://theautisticadvocate.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/kieran-rose-38574b55/

Felicity Sedgewick

https://www.linkedin.com/in/felicity-sedgewick-32a55015b/

Sarah Douglas

https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-douglas-9a57951b6/

Nicole Renehan

https://www.durham.ac.uk/staff/nicole-renehan/

Sarah Cassidy

https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/psychology/people/sarah.cassidy

Damien Milton

https://www.kent.ac.uk/school-of-psychology/tizard/people/1419/milton-damian

Sarah King

https://www.saraking.online/research

Krysia Waldock

https://www.linkedin.com/in/krysia-waldock/

Liz Pellicano

https://profiles.ucl.ac.uk/47716-elizabeth-pellicano

Research Discussed

Pearson A, Rose K, Mitchell A, et al. “It’s Not a Physical Prison but You Can’t Get Out.” How Autistic Adults Make Sense of the Experience of Intimate Violence and Abuse. Autism in Adulthood. 2026;8(3):360-372. doi:10.1089/aut.2024.0145

What if the most important skill in behaviour analysis isn't a technical skill at all? In this episode of Behaviour Speak, Ben Reiman sits down with BCBA and PhD candidate Preeti Vogel to discuss compassionate care, cultural responsiveness, and the crucial role these skills play in effective behaviour support. Drawing on over a decade of experience working across India and Australia, Preeti shares how her professional journey shaped her understanding of behaviour analysis and ultimately influenced her research agenda.

The conversation explores the Multi-Element Behaviour Support (MEBS) framework and its constructional approach to improving quality of life through meaningful skill development rather than focusing solely on behaviour reduction. Preeti explains how MEBS incorporates comprehensive assessment, proactive supports, reactive strategies, mediation, implementation planning, and social validity into a cohesive framework.

Ben and Preeti also dive into Preeti's published research examining the effects of remote training on functional assessment interviewing skills, cultural responsiveness, and compassionate care. The discussion highlights practical strategies practitioners can use immediately, including active listening, empathy-based responding, collaborative goal selection, and culturally responsive assessment practices. The episode concludes with a discussion about cultural humility, practitioner self-reflection, and Preeti's ongoing doctoral research examining self-monitoring tools to improve compassionate and culturally responsive practice across multiple service-delivery contexts

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/sefnUA2DVdk

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BACB: 1.0 Ethics
IBAO: 1.0 Cultural
QABA: 1.0 Ethics
CBA/CPD: 1.0 Cultural Diversity

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Links

Preeti Vogel on LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/preeti-vogel-2a3a3588/

Centre For Positive Behaviour Support

https://cpbs.com.au/

Multi Element Behaviour Support (MEBS)

https://iaba.foundation/ppbs

Preeti's Article

Vogel, P., Kurumiya, Y., Mahoney, A. et al. Teaching Practitioners in Australia Culturally Responsive and Compassion-Based Functional Assessment Interviewing Skills. Behav Analysis Practice (2025). https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-025-01121-5

Behaviour Speak Series On Constructional Approaches In Behaviour Support

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/category/constructional-behaviour-analysis

In this episode, Ben sits down with behaviour analyst and entrepreneur Sara Silsilah to discuss her remarkable journey from Saudi Arabia to Columbia University and back again. Sara shares how a chance encounter during a university fire drill led her into the field of autism and behaviour analysis, and how her grandmother's lifelong commitment to supporting children with disabilities shaped her values and career path.

The conversation explores the evolution of ABA practice, the importance of autistic voices, assent-based treatment, relationship-building, family systems, supervision, and professional humility. Sara challenges clinicians to move beyond rigid protocols and embrace a more collaborative, compassionate, and individualized approach to care.

She also shares lessons learned from launching Seeds of Knowledge, her vision for improving autism services in Saudi Arabia, and why quality treatment requires rigorous standards, meaningful supervision, and strong therapeutic relationships.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/sefnUA2DVdk

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BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Cultural
QABA: 1.5 Ethics
CBA/CPD: 1.5 Cultural Diversity

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Links

Sara Silsilah on LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/sara-silsilah-phd-bcba-d-4820051bb/

Seeds of Knowledge

https://theseedsofknowledge.com/

ABAI Saudi Arabia Chapter

https://iba.abainternational.org/2025/11/18/aba-saudi-arabia-2025-annual-report/

Behaviour Analysis in Saudi Arabia with Dr. Shahad Alsharif

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-149-behaviouranalysis-in-saudi-arabia-with-dr-shahad-alsharif/

In this episode, Ben Reiman speaks with Pragya Shrestha Pradhan, a parent, founder, advocate, and behaviour analyst working to expand autism and ABA services in Nepal. Pragya describes how her daughter Avaani’s autism diagnosis introduced her to a world of limited services, long waitlists, and cultural stigma around disability. That experience eventually led her to training in India, involvement in parent education, the founding of Avaani Foundation, and later her certification as a behaviour analyst.

The conversation covers autism awareness in Nepal, the challenges of developing ABA services where trained professionals are scarce, the importance of parent training, and the difficulty of implementing intervention within extended family systems. Pragya also discusses collaboration with other professionals, concerns about ABA being offered without proper training or supervision, and her vision for university-level behaviour analysis education and future service development in Nepal.

In This Episode

• Pragya Shrestha Pradhan’s journey from parent to professional
• Avaani’s diagnosis and early intervention experience
• Autism awareness and stigma in Nepal
• The founding and growth of Avaani Foundation
• Cultural considerations in ABA and parent training
• Challenges with limited professionals and access to services
• Collaboration with schools, families, therapists, doctors, and universities
• The need for culturally responsive ABA models in Nepal
• Building local capacity through education, supervision, and training

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/iD5UjGWmrOE

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BACB: 1.0 Ethics
IBAO: 1.0 Cultural
QABA: 1.0 Ethics
CBA/CPD: 1.0 Cultural Diversity

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Links

Pragya Pradhan on LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/pragya-shrestha-pradhan-003406181/

Avaani Foundation

https://www.avaanifoundation.org/

Autism Care Nepal Society

https://autismnepal.org/

Related Episodes:

Autism Advocacy in Pakistan with Dr. Shumyla Noreen

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-204-autism-advocacy-in-pakistan-with-shumyla-noreen-bcaba-iba/

In this episode of Behaviour Speak, Ben welcomes Mei-Hua Li, BCBA-D and speech-language pathology clinical fellow, for a discussion that sits at the intersection of behaviour analysis, communication, and cultural responsiveness. Drawing from her unique dual training in applied behaviour analysis and speech-language pathology, Mei-Hua explores how collaboration between BCBAs and SLPs can improve outcomes for autistic individuals and others with communication needs.

The conversation examines AAC and speech-generating devices, language development, aphasia, apraxia, and verbal behaviour, and highlights the importance of interdisciplinary practice. Mei-Hua shares practical examples of how behavioural assessment and intervention can complement speech and language expertise to create more effective, individualized support plans.

A major focus of the episode is culturally responsive care. Mei-Hua discusses her work with Chinese and Chinese-American families, the influence of Confucian values such as filial piety, and the importance of cultural humility when delivering services. She offers concrete strategies for working effectively with interpreters, understanding family perspectives, addressing stigma surrounding autism, and building trust through meaningful collaboration.

The episode concludes with a look at Mei-Hua's work with Chinatown Child Respite Care, a nonprofit supporting Chinese-speaking immigrant families of neurodivergent children through respite services, community building, education, and advocacy.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/msdfio-VbuA

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BACB: 1.0 Ethics
IBAO: 1.0 Cultural
QABA: 1.0 Ethics
CBA/CPD: 1.0 Cultural Diversity

Follow us!

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/behaviourspeak/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/behaviourspeak/

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@behaviorspeak

Links

Chinatown Respite Care

https://www.chinatownrespite.com/

https://www.instagram.com/chinatown.respite/

Articles Referenced

Masters, C., Robinson, D., Faulkner, S., Patterson, E., McIlraith, T., & Ansari, A. (2019). Addressing Biases in Patient Care with The 5Rs of Cultural Humility, a Clinician Coaching Tool. Journal of General Internal Medicine, 34(4), 627–630. https://doi.org/10.1007/s11606-018-4814-y

Moreno, G., Wong-Lo, M., Short, M., & Bullock, L. M. (2014). Implementing a culturally attuned functional behavioural assessment to understand and address challenging behaviours demonstrated by students from diverse backgrounds. Emotional & Behavioural Difficulties, 19(4), 343–355. https://doi.org/10.1080/13632752.2013.860682

Related Episodes:

Culturally Responsive Family-Centred PBS for Chinese Immigrant Famiies with Chloe Wang

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/building-culturally-responsive-family-centred-pbs-for-chinese-immigrant-families-chloe-wang/

Supporting Children Across Cultures with ABA and PBS with Dianna Yip https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-270-beyond-compliance-supporting-children-across-cultures-with-aba-and-pbs-with-dianna-yip-med-bcba/ Empowering The Chinese Autism Community with Hazel Lim https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-212-empowering-the-chinese-autism-community-with-hazel-lim/ Collaboration and Mentorship with Landria Seals-Green https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-57-huddle-up-collaboration-and-mentorship-with-landria-seals-green-ccc-slp-bcba/

In this episode of Behaviour Speak, Dr. Olivia Hird-Partlow offers a thoughtful and deeply practical conversation about ABA across the lifespan. Originally from Canada and now based in Maryland, Olivia Hird-Partlow describes her path into ABA through early training at Kennedy Krieger, her work across clinics, homes, schools, and residential settings, and her current teaching role at McDaniel College, where she teaches ABA courses within a master’s program in human services.

A major focus of the episode is the gap in ABA training and services for adults with autism, intellectual disabilities, dementia, and other age-related needs. Dr. Hird-Partlow explains how many ABA programs and funding structures continue to emphasize children, while adults and aging populations often require thoughtful behavioural support, interdisciplinary collaboration, and a strong commitment to quality of life.

The conversation explores what it means to support adults in ways that preserve autonomy, consent, dignity, and independence. Olivia Hird-Partlow discusses the importance of recognizing behavioural changes as possible indicators of pain, memory loss, grief, changes in routine, medical concerns, or communication needs. She also emphasizes that intervention plans should not simply be implemented mechanically, but should be adjusted based on the person’s changing abilities, preferences, and lived experience.

Listeners will also hear a rich discussion of aging in place, caregiver stress, family communication, and the emotional realities of supporting aging parents, grandparents, and relatives. Olivia shares personal examples from her own family, including the importance of maintaining familiar routines, environments, smells, furniture, and family connections when possible.

The episode also highlights Dr. Hird-Partlow’s work through Relentless Alliance, where she provides consultation, coaching, training, and support for adults with disabilities and adults experiencing dementia or aging-related changes. She also discusses her dissertation work on the practical functional assessment with adults and in schools, as well as her interest in building more research and training around ABA with adults.

This conversation is essential listening for behaviour analysts, caregivers, educators, residential support staff, clinicians, students, and anyone interested in compassionate behavioural support across the lifespan.

Watch the video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/P-K_8gIxLpA

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Connect with Olivia

Relentless Alliance

https://relentlessalliance.app/

LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivia-hird/

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/olivia_hird_partlow/

Links

Sisters On Da Mic Podcast

https://sistersondamic.buzzsprout.com/

DMV ABBA

https://www.dmvabba.org/

Related Episodes:

Episode 236, "The Intersection of Aging and Behaviour Analysis," with Dr. Jacqueline Pachis and Nehal Siam

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-236-the-intersection-of-aging-and-behaviour-analysis-with-jacqueline-pachis-ma-ms-bcba-and-nehal-siam-mped-bcba-rba-ont/

Episode 20, "Consulting in Group Homes Using ACT," with Monica Peters. https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-20-consulting-in-group-homes-using-act-with-monica-peters-mads-bcba/

In this powerful conversation, Meena Richardson, an Assistant Scientist at the Center for Indigenous Health at Johns Hopkins University, shares her work supporting urban Indigenous communities through community-based participatory research, cultural connectedness, and Indigenous-led approaches to healing.

Drawing from her experiences as a citizen of the Haliwa-Saponi Tribe and her Indo-Fijian heritage, Meena explores how identity, kinship, and relationships serve as mechanisms for wellness and resilience. She discusses the realities facing urban Indigenous communities, the impact of historical policies such as relocation programs, and the importance of honouring Indigenous ways of knowing in research and practice.

The conversation highlights Meena's dissertation research on caregiving, belonging, and cultural connectedness in urban Indigenous communities. Listeners will learn how multigenerational relationships, place-based practices, water ceremonies, traditional plant knowledge, and community-centred caregiving support both healing and prevention across generations.

Throughout the discussion, Meena offers a strengths-based perspective that challenges common misconceptions about urban Indigenous people while emphasizing the power of community, culture, identity, and Indigenous leadership in creating healthier futures.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Sbx4x0-aD3A Check out Meena's latest paper! Richardson, M., Darrow, H., Trujillo, N., & Waters, S. F. (2026). "…what it all comes down to is being a good relative": urban indigenous perspectives on caregiving, community, and culture to inform trauma transmission prevention and generational healing. Journal of behavioral medicine, 10.1007/s10865-026-00685-z. Advance online publication. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10865-026-00685-z Contact Dr. Richardson https://cih.jhu.edu/team/meenakshi-richardson/ https://publichealth.jhu.edu/faculty/4949/meenakshi-richardson

If you enjoyed this conversation with Meena Richardson, be sure to explore other Behaviour Speak episodes that deepen the discussion around Indigenous health, cultural connectedness, identity, and community wellbeing. Check out our conversations with Haley Shea, who shares insights on Indigenous mental health and systems transformation; Jessica Saniguq Ullrich, whose work on the Indigenous Connectedness Framework helped inform many of the concepts discussed in this episode; and Katisha Paul, who explores Indigenous perspectives on healing, community, and cultural resurgence. Together, these conversations offer a broader understanding of Indigenous ways of knowing, relationship-based approaches to wellbeing, and the importance of centering Indigenous voices in research, practice, and community care. Visit BehaviourSpeak.com and search for Haley Shea, Jessica Ullrich, and Katisha Paul to continue your learning journey.

What does behaviour analysis look like in Russia today?

In this episode of Behaviour Speak, Ben welcomes Natalia Polikarpova, behaviour analyst, educator, supervisor, and leader in the Russian-speaking ABA community.

Natalia shares her journey from engineering to behaviour analysis, discusses the early development of ABA in Russia, and reflects on the growth of professional training, supervision, and certification opportunities across Russian-speaking countries. She also explores the impact of the BACB's withdrawal from Russia, the emergence of local credentialing systems, and the importance of developing professional organizations that reflect local cultural and educational realities.

The conversation also examines autism services across Russia and neighbouring countries, including parent involvement, educational options, government-supported initiatives, and ongoing efforts to improve diagnostic pathways for families. Natalia highlights the growing influence of Practical Functional Assessment (PFA) and Skills-Based Treatment (SBT), as well as the broader movement toward compassionate, trauma-informed care.

Most importantly, Natalia challenges listeners to remember that every learner is first and foremost a child, deserving of dignity, flexibility, and compassionate support.

In this episode, we discuss:

• How ABA first emerged in Russia
• Early misconceptions about ABA
• The growth of Russian-language BCBA training
• Certification changes following BACB withdrawal
• Development of local professional standards and ethics
• PFA and SBT implementation across Russia
• Autism services and school placement options
• Parent involvement in intervention
• Challenges facing adult autism services
• Compassionate and trauma-informed behavior analysis
• The future of ABA in Russian-speaking communities

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/tV9Ja9ziEZ8

Continuing Education Credits

IBAO: 1.0 Cultural
QABA: 1.0 Ethics
CBA/CPD: 1.0 Cultural Diversity

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Question 1

Natalia discussed one challenge with importing educational models into Russia. What concern did she raise?

A. Teachers refused to use behaviour analysis

B. Imported models sometimes require adaptation to local educational and cultural realities

C. Families preferred residential treatment

D. Universities prohibited ABA training

Question 2

A. Government-funded universal ABA services

B. Large numbers of university-based ABA doctoral programs

C. Strong interest in learning new practices and professional development

D. National licensing requirements for all therapists

Question 3

Which statement best reflects Natalia's philosophy of practice?

A. Compliance should always be prioritized before teaching anything else

B. Standardized intervention plans are more effective than individualized approaches

C. Every child should receive the same educational placement

D. Practitioners should remember they are working with a child first and build interventions compassionately

Contact

Азбука АВА

https://azbukaaba.com/

FTF Behavioral Consulting

https://ftfbc.com/our-team/natalia-polikarpova/

https://ftfbc.com/natalia-polikarpova/

Explore More Global Perspectives on Behaviour Analysis

Natalia's story is part of a broader series of conversations on Behaviour Speak that examines how behaviour analysis is developing across Eastern Europe and Central Asia. While each country faces unique cultural, educational, regulatory, and service-delivery challenges, a common theme emerges: dedicated professionals are building behaviour analytic communities, expanding access to services, and adapting evidence-based practices to meet local needs.

Episode 184: Behaviour Analysis in Ukraine with Alla Moskalets
Learn how behaviour analysis developed in Ukraine, the challenges of expanding autism services, and the efforts of practitioners working to increase professional training, family support, and awareness of evidence-based practices.

Episode 191: Behaviour Analysis in Belarus with Hanna Kalinouskaya, BCBA, IBA

Explore the growth of behaviour analysis in Belarus, including the development of professional communities, service delivery models, and the ongoing work of creating accessible supports for autistic individuals and their families.

Episode 229: Behaviour Analysis in Kyrgyzstan with Dr. Anastasiia Iun

Discover how ABA is emerging in Kyrgyzstan, the barriers faced by families and professionals, and the innovative approaches being used to build capacity and expand access to quality services.

Episode 251: Behaviour Analysis in Georgia with Madonna Bonny, MS, BCBA

Hear about the evolution of behaviour analysis in Georgia, including workforce development, educational initiatives, and efforts to establish sustainable systems of support for autistic individuals and their caregivers.

Together with Natalia Polikarpova's insights into Russia and Russian-speaking communities, these episodes provide a unique international perspective on the growth of behaviour analysis around the world. They highlight the importance of cultural responsiveness, collaboration, parent engagement, and the shared commitment of practitioners working to improve outcomes for individuals and families across diverse settings.

Listen to the full international series at Behaviour Speak and discover how behaviour analysis is taking shape across different regions, cultures, and systems of care.

In this episode of Behaviour Speak, host Ben Reiman speaks with Sarah Elkami Trdina, Lina Pezzo Szodo, and Camila Grullon from Always Connected Treatment Network (ACTN)about an innovative partnership with Mississauga Fire.

The conversation explores how behaviour analysts and fire safety professionals collaborated to create accessible fire safety education for neurodivergent children, youth, and families. The guests discuss caregiver workshops, desensitization protocols for smoke alarms, emergency preparedness training, and strategies for teaching potentially life-saving skills using behaviour analytic principles.

The episode also highlights the importance of cross-sector collaboration, community engagement, and creating practical resources that can be shared across organizations, schools, and emergency services.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/xGxFs-8ofr4

Continuing Education Credits

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QABA: 1.0 General
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Question 1

Sarah described how many larger fire safety skills are actually made up of smaller prerequisite skills. Which of the following was discussed as an example of a prerequisite skill involved in successful fire evacuation?

A. Learning to identify all fire truck equipment

B. Following instructions during an emergency

C. Learning firefighter rank structures

D. Understanding municipal fire codes

Question 2

What behaviour analytic strategy did the ACTN team describe for helping learners become more comfortable with smoke alarms?

A. Overcorrection

B. Response cost

C. Desensitization through gradual exposure to alarm sounds

D. Token economies only

Question 3

During the episode, Camila shared that behaviour analysis is still emerging in the Dominican Republic. Approximately how many behaviour analysts did she estimate were practicing in the country when she completed her supervision hours?

A. About 5

B. About 25

C. About 100

D. About 500

Contact

Always Connected Treatment Network

https://alwaysconnectedtn.ca/

Sarah Elkami Tridina

https://www.linkedin.com/in/elkamisarah/

Camilla Grullon

https://www.linkedin.com/in/camilagrullon/

Lina Pezzo Szodo

https://www.linkedin.com/in/lina-pezzo-szodo-39127b146/

Links:

The September 26th Project

https://september26.org/

Ontario Municipal Fire Prevention Officers Association

https://omfpoa.com/

PECS Canada Fire Safety Resources

https://pecs-canada.com/blog/teaching-fire-safety-messages-to-aac-users/

https://pecs-canada.com/n-i-c-k-for-fire-and-burn-safety/

Caribbean Association For Behaviour Analysis

https://caribbeanba.org/

This is Part Two of my conversation with Katisha Paul.

After exploring her personal journey in Part One, we dive into the work that has made Katisha one of the most recognized Indigenous advocates of her generation.

We discuss:

• Leadership lessons from her ancestors
• The history and impact of the Union of BC Indian Chiefs
• Indigenous governance and self-determination
• Women's leadership and matriarchal responsibility
• Indigenous representation at the United Nations
• The Global Indigenous Youth Caucus
• Climate leadership and environmental stewardship
• Rematriation and the return of cultural belongings
• Indigenous rights implementation
• Systems change and governance
• NEPENEḴ and the Sovereign-Tea project
• Legacy, future generations, and Indigenous resurgence

Throughout the conversation, Katisha shares a vision rooted in Indigenous laws, relationships, responsibility, and what she calls moving from intergenerational trauma toward intergenerational excellence.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/i9d0_TDkbiA

Contact Katisha Paul

NEPENEḴ

https://nepenek.ca/

https://www.instagram.com/nepenekgroup/

LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/katisha-paul-b6ab0235b/

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/katisha.paul/

Union of BC Indian Chiefs

https://www.ubcic.bc.ca/

UN Global Indigenous Youth Caucus

https://www.globalindigenousyouthcaucus.org/

https://www.facebook.com/GlobalIndigenousYouthCaucus/

Tsartlip First Nation

https://tsartlip.com/

What happens when a Board Certified Behaviour Analyst brings behavioural science into competitive athletics? In this episode, Ben Reiman welcomes N'Kayah Kersey, BCBA, former Division I basketball player, athlete wellness consultant, and founder of Practiced. N'Kayah shares her journey from mentoring at-risk youth at Boys Town to building an innovative consulting practice that helps athletes, coaches, parents, and organizations improve performance through behavioral systems. The discussion explores athlete confidence, leadership development, team culture, video modeling, coach education, parent behaviour, organizational systems, and the growing role of behaviour science in sports. Along the way, N'Kayah explains her Practice Method framework, the Athlete Wellness Ecosystem, and her collaboration with WNBA star Brittany Sykes on the Return to the Brick Athlete Wellness Experience. Whether you're a behaviour analyst, coach, parent, educator, or athlete, this episode demonstrates how behavioural principles can create meaningful and measurable change far beyond traditional ABA settings. What You'll Learn

• How N'Kayah discovered behaviour analysis through Boys Town
• Why leadership should be explicitly taught
• How confidence can be operationally defined and strengthened
• The role social skills play in athletic performance
• Using video modelling to improve confidence and leadership
• Why culture is built through reinforcement rather than slogans
• How parent behaviour influences athlete development
• The Practice Method framework
• The Athlete Wellness Ecosystem
• Opportunities for behaviour analysts outside traditional practice settings

Watch on Youtube: https://youtu.be/DxWgJMIClds

Contact N'Kayah:

https://www.instagram.com/yayakersey/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/nkayahkersey/

https://www.instagram.com/wearepracticed/

https://www.wearepracticed.com/

Links:

Transforming Basketball

https://transformingbball.com/about-us

Boys Town

https://www.boystown.org/