Beyond the Vow

During a recent School of the Prophets session at the Interchurch Holiness Convention (IHC), Pastor James Plank made some interesting comments about the people attending his church, distinguishing between those he considers "conservative" and those he describes as "worldly."

But that raises an important question: Does someone become worldly simply because they don't conform to the outward standards or traditions of a particular church?

In this episode of Beyond the Vow, we take a closer look at Plank's remarks and examine the difference between biblical holiness and the expectations often associated with conservative church culture.

We aren't questioning the importance of holiness, nor are we suggesting that Christians shouldn't have personal convictions or standards. Rather, we're challenging the practice of using those standards as the basis for determining another believer's spiritual condition.

Is worldliness defined by Scripture, or have we allowed our traditions and preferences to influence how we judge others?

Join us as we discuss these questions, examine what the Bible actually teaches, and consider whether our understanding of holiness always reflects the heart of Scripture.

Holiness matters. But so does how we define it.

An unexpected phone call. A little boy. A new chapter of faith, love, and family.

While going through Dad's massive library, Nick came across an old book by W. B. Godbey describing what he called "the devil's ladder"—a progression from doubt to discouragement, despondency and despair. That discovery led us into a conversation about the thoughts that tear us down, spiritual warfare, grief, and what remains of the people we love after they're gone.

We’re back! After some time away, Nick and Janelle are finally back behind the microphones for a new episode of Beyond the Vow.

A lot has happened over the past six months, and in this episode we're catching you up on life, Janelle's job change, what's been happening at church, our journey through foster care training, and more.

We also talk about where Beyond the Vow has been—and where we're going from here. This isn't just a one-time update. We're looking forward to getting back to making more episodes in the near future!

So grab a cup of coffee, settle in, and catch up with us. We've missed this—and we're glad to be back.

In this 83rd episode, Nick and Janelle discuss comments recently made by Bro. Gareth Nickerson and Bro. Rollin Mitchell concerning Salvation and Sanctification.

Nick and Janelle are back for 2026!

In this 81st episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss some controversial comments made during the Penns Creek Camp hosted by the God's Missionary Church denomination.

In this 80th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle conclude their three-part series, "Sacred & Scarred: Reclaiming Sex After Religious Shame". Discussed in this episode, can we relearn desire despite past shame, trauma, and other factors?

In this 79th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss Hebrews 13:4 and what a true undefiled marriage bed consists of. Do we understand what true intimacy is? Do we truly understand how to be vulnerable with our spouse? All of this and more in this episode!

In this Episode of Beyond the Vow, we discuss how we were told to wait, but we were never told how to enjoy. Let’s talk about what the CHM taught us about sex and what it left out. This is the first of a 3-part series that we are doing for our"Reclaiming Sex After Religious Shame" series.

In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss overcoming Spiritual Anxiety. Do you question your salvation? Do you feel the constant drive to keep doing more because it's never enough? Can you truly know that you are saved regardless of your feelings? We discuss all of this and more!

In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss exhaustion (burnout) that claims pastors and church workers alike. Should we feel pressured to keep going? Should we pace ourselves? Should we set boundaries?

In this first episode of 2025, Nick and Janelle are back from the Holidays and discuss everything that has occurred in the past couple of months including some updates and future plans.

In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss the deprogramming period after leaving the CHM. New (non-CHM) churches can feel strange, and we may feel guilt and loneliness. How do we adjust and how long does it take?

In this episode, Nick and Janelle discuss a major change with Janelle's job, a recap of the election, and trusting God when things don't go your way.

In this 72nd podcast episode, Nick and Janelle discuss their move to KY, fertility, and Dan Stetler's comments at the 2024 World Changers Conference held at Union Bible College.

In this 71st episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss how Christians should handle politics by looking at the early church. Is the party greater than the Bible? How should we vote?

In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss some recent comments made by Rev. Jeremy Fuller at the Midwest Pilgrim Camp. To prevent your children from becoming worldly or falling into sin, should you join the church or denomination?

In this 69th Podcast episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss the crippling effects of Anxiety. Do Christians experience anxiety? What caused it and how do we deal with it?

In this 68th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss how busy they have been recently, a job change for Nick, and the importance of trusting God even when we don't have all the answers.