Podcast
Building Brand Advocacy
Building Brand Advocacy is a tactical marketing podcast exploring how the world’s most impactful brands grow.
Hosted by Paul Archer and Verity Hurd, the show explores the tactics and strategies behind modern brand building.
Each episode breaks down how category-defining brands, platform leaders, and industry insiders rewriting the rules of growth and the tactics, strategies, and decisions other brands can apply immediately.
This podcast is your marketing playbook.
- Marketing chart
- #143
- Episodes
- 146
- Releases
- Weekly
- Typical length
- 39 min
- On air since
- 2022
- Latest episode
- 2 months ago
Episodes
146 episodes, newest first
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30 min
Inside e.l.f. Beauty's Top 1% Advocacy Strategy | Building Brand Advocacy
Season 4, Episode 26
Show notes
In this week's episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Samantha Critchell, VP of Corporate Communications at e.l.f Beauty, explores how e.l.f built a zero-distance community by blurring the line between employee passion and consumer co-creation.
We also unpick how generosity, cultural alignment, and asking consumers what they actually want transforms advocates into brand co-creators, and why straying from your core values is where advocacy collapses.
In this episode, we cover:
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How e.l.f's zero-distance community model blurs boundaries between brand and consumers
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Why employee passion and internal alignment fuels external advocacy
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The importance of consumer co-creation & digital community
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Using purpose, values, and generosity as advocacy currency
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How to adapt with consumers without sacrificing authenticity
Chapters
00:00 Introduction To Samantha
01:20 e.l.f.’s Zero Distance Philosophy
03:34 Hiring For e.l.f Culture
05:24 Values, Cost, Quality, And Speed
07:00 The Significance Of Superfans And Co Creation
10:41 The New Age Of Social Content As Conversation
14:31 The Purpose Led Advocacy Flywheel
18:30 Zero Distance In Practice
24:27 How Generosity Fuels Word Of Mouth
28:07 Unexpected Community Activations
29:22 Cannes Goals And Wrap Up
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Samantha Critchell: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samantha-melissa-critchell1016/
e.l.f Beauty: https://www.instagram.com/elfcosmeticsuk/
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29 min
Every brand wants advocacy, few are willing to actually build it. Here's how.
Season 4, Episode 25
Show notes
In this week's episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Lindsey Gamble, creator economy strategist at IZEA, unpacks the latest creator economy shifts, from B2B vs B2C creator strategy to behavioural psychology, and the value of content creators in the modern industry.
We also delve into which brands are winning at advocacy right now, how to turn consumers into advocates, and the impact of showing up in AI-powered search.
In this episode, we cover:
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The creator economy landscape; key trends, creator value, and why popularity is surging
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B2B vs B2C creator strategy
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How brands connect with consumers vs creators
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The state of brand advocacy, who's doing it right, and how to earn it
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Showing up in AI-powered search
Chapters
00:00 Welcome to Cannes Lions
02:38 Top Creator Trends
05:30 B2B vs B2C Creators Explained
11:21 Creator Tiers and Trust
14:14 Everyone Is a Creator
17:12 The Current State of Advocacy
22:18 Earning Brand Love
26:20 How AI Search Will Impact
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Lindsey Gamble: https://www.instagram.com/lindseygamble_/?hl=en-gb
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52 min
All Brand Marketing Starts With Advocacy | Camilla Craven on AI, Community & Modern Brand Building
Season 4, Episode 23
Show notes
In this week's episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Camilla Craven, former Global Brand & Marketing Director at FaceGym and now Fractional CMO & Consultant to multiple beauty brands, unpacks why advocacy is becoming the backbone of modern marketing strategy, from the operational realities of building community to the rise of employee-generated content and AI's growing role.
We also dig into why the best marketing leaders aren't just measuring advocacy, they're listening.
In this episode, we cover:
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Advocacy's place in modern marketing and why it's no longer a nice-to-have
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Community, influencers, and the power of actually listening
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Tuning out industry noise to focus on what genuinely makes impact
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Operational struggles, team structures, and the rise of employee-generated content
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AI's growing role in how brands build and scale advocacy
Chapters
00:00 Welcome Back Camilla
02:45 Advocacy Over Performance
10:20 What To Believe When Everyone’s an Expert
16:28 Fractional CMO Patterns
20:10 Tools, Data, and Adoption
21:57 The importance Of Listening First
23:41 Measuring Advocacy Impact
25:30 Influencer Performance Nuance
27:07 Future Generations and The Social Media Ban
28:29 Martha Stewart MAC Campaign
33:39 The Rise In Employee Generated Content (ECG)
39:39 AI Tool Consolidation
43:14 Who Does Advocacy Best?
44:41 TikTok Shop Brand Dilution
49:56 Cringe or Community Game
51:39 Wrap Up
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Camilla Craven: https://www.instagram.com/camillablyss/
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56 min
Behind LOOKFANTASTIC: Rebuilding a £1B Retail Empire From the Inside
Season 4, Episode 22
Show notes
In this week's episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Verity sits down with Georgie Fox, Head of Brand at LOOKFANTASTIC, to dissect what it actually takes to rebuild a brand's foundation from the inside out, and how community became their sharpest growth lever.
This episode covers the brand-partnership relationship, why consumer connection has to run deeper than product, and how brands can fill the gap left by traditional media. Georgie shares the internal culture shifts that made it possible, LOOKFANTASTIC’s anti-gatekeeping approach to knowledge, and the "sausage machine" analogy that redefines what good marketing looks like.
In this episode, we cover:
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Rebuilding LOOKFANTASTIC's brand foundation, closing the business-social understanding gap, and why consumer connection must run deeper than product
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How brands can fill the void left by traditional media and publishing, using community as the gateway through access
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What good marketing actually looks like and how to measure it effectively using the "sausage machine" analogy
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Building a fuelled 360 creator and affiliate strategy, from nurturing genuine partnership relationships to scaling the brand x partner model
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Anti-gatekeeping as strategy, making employee content creation part of the role and earning real buy-in across the business
Chapters
00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro
05:47 The Home of Iconic Beauty
09:09 Building Brand Foundations
16:29 Proving Brand Impact
21:45 Anti Gatekeeping Strategy
27:30 Creators and LOOKFANTASTIC’s Aspiration Balance
29:43 Influencer Strategy Origins
31:31 From Funnel To Flywheel
37:29 Reddit And Authenticity
41:12 Molly Mae’s Evolution
42:51 Ambassadors Within The Community
53:04 The Future Of Brand Marketing
54:58 Cringe Or Community Quickfire
56:01 Wrap Up
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FOLLOW LOOKFANTASTIC
LOOKFANTASTIC: https://www.instagram.com/lookfantastic/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lookfantastic?lang=en
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55 min
The 5- Step Framework to Fast & Slow Social Strategy: Beth & Michael from Slice Social
Episode 21
Show notes
In this week's episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Beth & Michael, founders of Slice social media agency, break down their 5-Step Social Strategy: Discovery, Storytelling, Challenge, Problem-Tension-Goal, and Solution. Plus, why the "Fast & Slow" approach to social is the framework that separates brands that win from brands that just post.
This is an episode designed to give you direction in social media, to integrate a purpose into your posting and work strategically to reach your end objective.
In this episode, we cover:
00:00 Introduction
05:15 The 5-Step Social Media Strategy
06:45 Step 1: Discovery
20:06 Step 2: Storytelling through strategy
29:24 Step 3: The Challenge
33:39 Step 4: Problem, Tension, Goal
34:50 Step 5: Solution
44:17 The Fast & Slow Approach To Social
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CONNECT WITH BETH & MICHAEL
Beth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/betheleanorthomas/
Michael: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelrichardcorcoran/
Slice Social: https://www.slice-social.com/
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46 min
Cannes Lions CMO on Community, Advocacy & What Actually Moves Revenue
Season 4, Episode 20
Show notes
In this weeks episode of Building Brand Advocacy, we invite the CMO of Cannes Lions to join us ahead of the festival to unpack what's actually shifting in advocacy, creator marketing, and how the Lions are judged in 2026. plus hard strategies for measuring community, elevating marketing in the boardroom, and driving real ROI.
In this episode, we cover:
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What to expect from Cannes Lions in 2026
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What’s changing in advocacy & creator marketing
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The Lion judgement process at Cannes
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Opportunities for CMOs to elevate marketing in boardrooms
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How to effectively measure community
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The next generation of CEO & CMO’s
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Building community through credibility
Chapters
00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro
01:36 How Cannes Lions Has Evolved
05:20 CMO Pressure and Priorities
09:05 How Cannes Lions Judging Works
15:12 Proof Creativity Drives Growth
18:31 Merging Brand and Performance
22:14 Boardroom Alignment and Metrics
29:31 How to Measure Community Impact
34:19 The CMO of 2030
39:25 You Cannot Buy Attention
42:28 AI and Creative Possibility
45:01 Cannes Week Wrap Up
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CONNECT WITH ILARIA
LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/ilariapasquinelli
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18 min
Is The Creator Economy Broken? ft. Manuel Albuquerque
Season 4, Episode 19
Show notes
In this live episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Verity sits down with Manuel Albuquerque, founder & CEO of Prime Tag, to unpack the AI revolution reshaping the creator economy from the inside out.
From the real pressures facing time-poor marketing teams to the problems AI is actually solving (and the myths it's not), Manuel brings the entrepreneur's perspective that brand builders need right now.
In this episode, we cover:
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Manuel’s journey to entrepreneurship in the influencer space
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The time poor pressures of marketing teams
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How AI is influencing the creator economy
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The problem that AI is solving for marketing teams
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Busting AI myths around the creator economy
If you're navigating influencer strategy in an AI-first world, this one is essential listening.
CHAPTERS
00:00 People And Data First
01:18 Creator Economy Boom
01:59 From Basketball To Tech Startup
04:08 The Influencer Stigma Debate
05:24 Current Status: Bad Data And No Time
06:38 AI Mindset Myth
09:02 Augmented Intelligence Not Artificial Intelligence
10:42 Myth Busting Rapid Fire
12:17 How AI Is Changing Business Models
15:29 Finding Effective Creator X Brand Matches
16:45 Brand Advocacy Advice
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CONNECT WITH MANUEL
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/manuelvicalbuquerque/
PrimeTag: https://www.primetag.com/
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39 min
How Grace Andrews Builds A Content Strategy In 5 Steps
Season 4, Episode 18
Show notes
We’re back with another mastermind episode. This week, Grace Andrews takes us through her 5 step framework for building a high performance content engine, from identifying content signals (before selecting platforms) to measuring success metrics that are relevant to you and your brand.
In this episode, we cover:
07:05 Step 1: Identifying Content Signals
11:47 Step 2: Approach To Content Formats
26:31 Step 3: The Platform Specific Strategy
28:43 Step 4: Where Creators Fit Into Your Content Strategy
32:56 Step 5: How To Measure For Success
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CONNECT WITH GRACE
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/graceandrewsss/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@graceandrewsss
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@graceandrews7
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50 min
Building TRIP: How a Challenger Brand Conquered the Wellness Drinks Market
Season 4, Episode 17
Show notes
In this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, I sit down with Alice Ratcliffe, Head of Brand at TRIP — the wellness drinks brand rewriting the rules of brand positioning in one of the most crowded categories on the market.
Alice pulls back the curtain on how TRIP went from scrappy challenger to a brand that commands culture, loyalty, and shelf space — and what it's really taken to scale that story into the US.
In this episode, we cover:
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How to stand out in a saturated wellness & drinks market
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TRIP's influencer strategy and why it's built differently to most other brands
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Integrating celebrities into your brand without losing authenticity
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The real strategy for brand building in the US
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Why employee advocacy is one of the most underrated tools in a marketer's arsenal
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How to integrate AI for effective brand building in 2026
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The honest challenges of being the underdog and how to turn them into an advantage
CHAPTERS
00:00 The Polished Brand Problem
02:03 Finding Branded White Space
06:00 Regulation Into Advantage
07:36 Always On Brand Building
10:17 How To Earn Consumer Trust
16:06 Creators Influencers Celebs
23:25 US Expansion Playbook
26:30 Approaching Employee Advocacy
28:39 Scaling Without Gatekeeping
29:51 Email List vs Community
31:15 AI Vs IRL
33:36 Hosting Inclusive Brand Events
35:50 Winning on TikTok Shop
39:52 Global Growth and Accounts
44:26 Powerful Founder Partnerships
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CONNECT WITH TRIP
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trip.drinks/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@trip.drinks
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31 min
Is your brand engineered for advocacy? | The Advocacy Maturity Model
Season 4, Episode 16
Show notes
In this mastermind episode of Building Brand Advocacy, we break down the Advocacy Maturity Model, a strategic framework for diagnosing exactly where your brand sits on the advocacy spectrum and the precise steps to move from passive mentions to a fully activated community-led growth engine.
Think of it as your strategic advocacy playbook, the kind of session your brand team needs to align on advocacy as a core brand lever rather than a marketing afterthought.
Inside this episode:
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The 5 stages of brand advocacy maturity and how to identify which stage you're at right now
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Why most brands plateau at stage 2 and never break through to genuine brand love
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The structural shifts your team needs to make at each stage of the model
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How to turn community-led growth into a measurable brand asset
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The metrics that actually matter when tracking advocacy momentum
If you’re a marketing leader trying to restructure your team's advocacy strategy, this episode gives you the framework to stop guessing and start growing with intention.
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37 min
Grace Andrews: Why Your Employees Are Your Most Powerful Brand Asset in 2026
Season 4, Episode 15
Show notes
In this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Verity sits down with Grace Andrews to unpack the real shifts happening in social right now and what forward-thinking brands are doing to stay ahead in 2026 and beyond.
Grace brings a sharp, strategic lens to one of the most underutilised growth levers in marketing today: employee advocacy. We go deep on why building brand growth from the inside out isn't just about brand culture but something much bigger.
We then go onto discuss how to build an effective and experimental content eco-system as well as understanding how to navigate YouTube as long form presence is growing within the digital landscape.
In this episode, we cover:
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The evolution of social trends shaping brand strategy in 2026
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A strategic framework for building genuine employee advocacy
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How to drive real brand growth through your people not just your paid channels
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Effective content experimentation strategies that actually move the needle
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Why YouTube is the deepest, most underrated content channel for brand building
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The trends smart brands are already preparing for in 2026/2027
CHAPTERS
00:00 Episode Trailer
01:30 Meet Grace Andrews
02:23 2024 Trend Check
06:52 Employee Advocacy Basics
09:20 Building The Employees Advocacy Infrastructure
14:52 Ownership And Founder Role
17:11 Incentivising Employee Advocacy
19:22 Building A Content Experimentation System
22:29Dummy Social Channels for Safe Testing
24:09 Case Study of the Shameless Network
28:48 YouTube vs Social Scrolling
31:29 Where YouTube Fits into Teams
33:48 Low Lift YouTube for Brands
35:30 Future Creator Brand Partnerships
Whether you're a founder, marketing lead, or brand strategist — this conversation will change how you think about where your next wave of growth actually comes from.
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CONNECT WITH GRACE
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/graceandrewsss/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@graceandrewsss
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@graceandrews7
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6 min
Why more brands should become entertainment first | The Red Bull Strategy
Season 4, Episode 14
Show notes
In this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, we're unpacking the seismic shift happening in marketing right now: is branded entertainment replacing paid ads?
We dig into why the smartest brands are investing in long-form content, storytelling, and entertainment-led campaigns, and how this changes everything from team structure to ROI measurement.
What we cover:
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Should brands have Global or local social media accounts
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The perfect niche to scale strategy
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Branded entertainment vs paid ads
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The Redbull playbook
Whether you're a founder, a marketing lead, or a brand builder trying to do more with less — this is the episode that reframes where your budget should actually be going.
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CONNECT WITH PAUL & VERITY
Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulkarcher/
Verity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/
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48 min
Is Community The New Influencer? Founder of CLIQ Community App
Season 4, Episode 13
Show notes
Are communities replacing influencers? In this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Paul sits down with Nicola Gunby, co-founder of CLIQ, to talk about why the brands winning right now aren't chasing reach, they're building belonging.
We go deep on the concept of the 'third space' and why it might be the most underutilised tool in your brand's growth strategy right now.
In this episode we cover:
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The journey behind CLIQ and why Nicola built it
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What 'third space' communities are and why they matter for brands
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What it actually takes to build real, lasting community (it's not what you think)
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How brands can use CLIQ as a community-building tool
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Frameworks for measuring community impact — beyond vanity metrics
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Online vs IRL: which builds deeper brand loyalty?
This one is essential listening if you're a CMO or marketing lead questioning where influencer budgets should actually go in 2025.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
04:29 Community as the Third Place
08:19 Where Brands Go Wrong with Community
13:59 Cliq Brand Case Studies
19:21 Measuring Community ROI
26:17 Measuring Community Event Demand
28:30 Tap Into Existing Communities
29:40 Samsung Community Case Study
35:17 Online vs In Person Community
37:34 Sub Communities Strategy
41:40 Geo Local Community
44:18 Cringe Or Community
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CONNECT WITH NICOLA
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nicolargunby/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicola-gunby/
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44 min
Why Every Brand Should Think Like a Creator | Sidemen's Manager Reveals All
Season 4, Episode 12
Show notes
Is influencer marketing dead? Jordan Schwarzenberger, the man behind the Sidemen's evolution from creators to a multi-million pound enterprise, thinks brands have got content eco-systems wrong. In this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, we break down why the smartest brands are ditching traditional influencer marketing and becoming organic content engines instead.
Jordan reveals the exact content strategy that scaled the Sidemen from a YouTube group into a business empire and how any brand can steal from the creator economy strategy. We go deep on building a content hemisphere, why entertainment-first marketing beats ads, and how to turn community into customers through brand advocacy.
In this episode we cover:
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Sidemen evolution from creators to an enterprise business.
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The opportunity for brands to become content engines.
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Why influencer marketing is dead.
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Why brands and 10 years behind in content and how to create a solution to get ahead.
Whether you're a CMO, marketer or brand founder, this episode is your blueprint for building a content marketing strategy that actually compounds.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
02:38 Building the LADBible Agency
07:16 Scaling The Sidemen Businesses
11:16 Defining A Content Infrastructure
12:27 Side Plus Membership Model
17:27 How Brands Should Be Working With Creators
20:23 End Of The Transactional Influencer Model
23:04 Discovery IS Replacing Followers
26:07 The Influencer Economy Collapse
28:33 Traditional Campaigns Are Dead
30:04 Monoculture To Micro Communities
38:24 The CMO Playbook
41:40 Contribution Marketing To Serve Then Sell
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CONNECT WITH JORDAN
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordanschwarzenberger/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jordanschwarz/
TiKTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jordanschwarzenberger
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43 min
How to Build, Scale & Actually Use AI in Marketing
Season 4, Episode 11
Show notes
AI for brands is already here. It’s making a shift and as marketing teams, we should be reactive. But the reality is that most brands are still figuring out where to start.
In this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, we break down the real state of AI for brands right now. What's working, what's just noise and how to make AI work for YOU without losing the human touch that drives real brand advocacy.
In this episode, we cover:
The current state of AI for brands
How to make AI work for you and your team today
How AI will reshape marketing resources and team structures
Practical ways to use AI in your day-to-day work life
Using AI to create real efficiencies across your content and marketing ops
How to build, scale, and manage an AI team from scratch
CHAPTERS
00:00 Build Your AI Native Dream Team
02:32 Manager of Infinite Minds
03:54 Onboarding and Feedback Loop
09:49 Future Proof Marketing Roles Form AI
15:14 Building AI Agents into Your Workflow
22:30 Repurposing Content With Agents
25:54 Scaling To 11 Agents
31:58 AI Native Mindset Shift
34:45 Create A Preference Sheet for AI
38:34 Training Cadence And Growth
Whether you're a brand team trying to do more with less, or a marketing leader figuring out how to upskill your team, this episode is your AI starter kit.
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CONNECT WITH PAUL & VERITY
Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulkarcher/
Verity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/
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23 min
How To Build A Community-Led Brand From Scratch (If I Started Over) | Sophie Miller’s Masterclass
Season 4, Episode 10
Show notes
In this mastermind episode, Sophie Miller (founder of Pretty Little Marketer) breaks down the exact tactical steps she’d take to build a high-engagement community from scratch in 2026.
If you’re a brand, marketer or founder trying to turn followers into a real community engine, this episode is a step-by-step guide to catapult your community strategy.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
00:00 Introduction to community building
00:56 The Platform Strategy
05:06 Step 1: Connection Point
08:19 Step 2: Mission Sentence
11:09 Step 3: Connection To You, Connection To Each Other
16:24 Step 4: Thin Content
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CONNECT WITH SOPHIE
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiealicemiller/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sophiemillerrrr/
Pretty Little Marketer: https://www.linkedin.com/company/prettylittlemarketer/
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42 min
Inside Trinny London, Benefit & MADE.com: The Truth About Building Brand Advocacy
Season 4, Episode 9
Show notes
Are you building a real community around your brand or just spending budget on meaningless partnerships and vanity metrics?
In this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Verity sits down with marketing consultant Lauren Spearman who has worked with Global brands including Benefit Cosmetics, MADE.com, Trinny London to unpack what genuine advocacy looks like today vs. a decade ago and why most influencer strategies are still stuck in 2014.
We go deep on how to move from fabricated, performance-led “community” to truly invested brand advocates who buy, refer, and defend your brand online.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
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Evolution of brand advocacy over the last 10 years
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How Benefit Cosmetics build a ‘warm’ brand through effective influencer strategies
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How to find organic advocacy in your existing community
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How to build real relationships with your influencer partners
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What went into creative authentic advocacy at http://made.com/
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The work behind Trinny London Tribe
CMOs, brand and social leads, and anyone tired of pouring budget into influencer campaigns that don’t convert into real advocacy, retention, or revenue, this episode is for you.
CHAPTERS
02:37 Netmums and Real Community
06:24 Inside Benefit Cosmetics
12:20 Employee Advocacy in Action
19:33 Benefit Mascara Maldives Launch
21:37 Reframing advocacy at MADE.com
24:52 Building the Advocacy at MADE.com
30:28 Brand Advocacy vs Performance
34:26 Treating Creators as True Partners
37:26 Behind the Trinny Tribe Community
40:36 Quick fire and Wrap Up
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6 min
How Glow For It Used TikTok LIVE to Make 6 Figures (Step-by-Step)
Season 4, Episode 8
Show notes
Glow For It didn’t just “do well” on TikTok Live, they drove 6-figures in revenue in a single live shopping stream. In this 5-minute masterclass, founder Daisy Kelly breaks down exactly how it happened and what every modern brand can steal from their TikTok strategy.
In this episode, we unpack:
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How Daisy turned community obsession into real-time purchase intent
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The TikTok LIVE moment that tipped Glow For It into 6-figure territory
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The structure of a high-converting TikTok Live Shopping session
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Why TikTok Shop is replacing traditional “influencer trips” for smart brands
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The mindset shift founders need to win in live commerce
If you’re a founder, marketer, or growth lead wondering how to turn views into live sales, this is your shortcut. Think of it as a behind-the-scenes launch debrief: no fluff, just what actually moved the needle.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Inside a Six-Figure TikTok Live
01:24 The First 60 Seconds: Hooking Viewers with a Giveaway + Hero Offers
02:24 The Offer That Made It Pop
03:40 Behind-the-Scenes Chaos
04:45 The Six-Figure Moment
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27 min
The 3‑Step Framework to Organic Brand Advocacy in 2026
Season 4, Episode 7
Show notes
Influencer trips are dead and they’re killing your organic brand advocacy.
This episode is your permission slip to stop burning budget on one-off influencer posts and replace them with an advocacy engine that compounds over time and generates serious EMV.
In this advocacy masterclass, we break down a clear 3-step system to build organic brand advocates: the customers, creators, and community members who talk about you relentlessly without a pay cheque in sight. If you’re deep in your influencer strategy and unsure how to switch that to building real brand advocacy, this episode is for you.
In this episode, we cover:
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Why the traditional influencer marketing model is broken in 2026
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The 3 steps to building a customer-powered advocacy engine
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How to turn brand customers into high-impact brand ambassadors
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The difference between one-off “influencer trips” and scalable advocacy systems
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How to calculate EMV so you can prove ROI to your CMO, CFO, or board
If you want to build a brand that customers proudly talk about, this 3-step strategy is your new advocacy playbook.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Why influencer marketing is broken
04:29 The problem with influencer trips & brand dinners
06:10 Building an organic advocacy engine: map your brand network
07:41 Activating advocates: channels, CRM, and ROI of marketing to fans
11:14 The 3-part framework: Who → Activities → Rewards (airline loyalty lessons)
14:13 Advocacy is a feeling: experiences, founder hustle, and early community building
16:43 From influencer pyramid to advocate segments (pro vs amateur vs semi-pro)
19:23 Measuring real brand advocacy: real EMV, revenue, and content value
24:05 The most untapped opportunity: employees & retail teams as advocates
26:36 90-second tactical recap + wrap-up
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40 min
The Exact Strategic Framework To Build A Community-Led Brand (ft Sophie Miller)
Season 4, Episode 6
Show notes
Most brands think they have a community, but they’re actively building an audience, not community engagement. In this week's episode, we dive into community building strategy with Sophie Miller, Founder of Pretty Little Marketer. Sophie reveals why relying on followers alone is a dangerous game for modern brands.
“If you don't build your community, someone else will define it for you”. We break down exactly how to transition from "broadcasting" to "building" and why community-led growth is the most defensible asset your brand can own in this era of digital marketing.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
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The exact 3-step system to build a loyal brand community.
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Audience vs. Community: The critical difference that most marketing teams miss.
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Why silence is a liability and how to take ownership of your brand narrative.
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How to turn passive followers into active brand advocates.
Whether you are a Social Media Manager or a Brand Director, this episode covers the marketing strategy you need to future-proof your brand.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction to Sophie Miller
02:25 The Birth of Pretty Little Marketer
04:50 From Despare to Community Building
06:35 Strategic Growth and Community Engagement
13:22 Community Monetisation and Membership Launch
20:28 The Power of Community in Business
21:04 Navigating LinkedIn and Social Media
22:51 Building a Community-First Strategy
24:01 3 Pillars of PLM's Community
28:30 Measuring Community Success
33:30 Common Mistakes in Community Building
37:26 Final Thoughts and Community Advice for Brands
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