Podcast

Building Brand Advocacy

Business, Marketing

Building Brand Advocacy is a tactical marketing podcast exploring how the world’s most impactful brands grow.

Hosted by Paul Archer and Verity Hurd, the show explores the tactics and strategies behind modern brand building.

Each episode breaks down how category-defining brands, platform leaders, and industry insiders rewriting the rules of growth and the tactics, strategies, and decisions other brands can apply immediately.

This podcast is your marketing playbook.

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Episodes
146
Releases
Weekly
Typical length
39 min
On air since
2022
Latest episode
2 months ago

Episodes

146 episodes, newest first

  1. Inside e.l.f. Beauty's Top 1% Advocacy Strategy | Building Brand Advocacy

    Season 4, Episode 26

    Show notes

    In this week's episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Samantha Critchell, VP of Corporate Communications at e.l.f Beauty, explores how e.l.f built a zero-distance community by blurring the line between employee passion and consumer co-creation.

    We also unpick how generosity, cultural alignment, and asking consumers what they actually want transforms advocates into brand co-creators, and why straying from your core values is where advocacy collapses.

    In this episode, we cover:

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    How e.l.f's zero-distance community model blurs boundaries between brand and consumers

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    Why employee passion and internal alignment fuels external advocacy

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    The importance of consumer co-creation & digital community

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    Using purpose, values, and generosity as advocacy currency

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    How to adapt with consumers without sacrificing authenticity

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction To Samantha

    01:20 e.l.f.’s Zero Distance Philosophy

    03:34 Hiring For e.l.f Culture

    05:24 Values, Cost, Quality, And Speed

    07:00 The Significance Of Superfans And Co Creation

    10:41 The New Age Of Social Content As Conversation

    14:31 The Purpose Led Advocacy Flywheel

    18:30 Zero Distance In Practice

    24:27 How Generosity Fuels Word Of Mouth

    28:07 Unexpected Community Activations

    29:22 Cannes Goals And Wrap Up

    🔔 New episodes every Wednesday — subscribe so you never miss an episode.

    FOLLOW SAMANTHA

    Samantha Critchell: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samantha-melissa-critchell1016/

    e.l.f Beauty: https://www.instagram.com/elfcosmeticsuk/

    FOLLOW US

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    Verity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/

    30 min
  2. Every brand wants advocacy, few are willing to actually build it. Here's how.

    Season 4, Episode 25

    Show notes

    In this week's episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Lindsey Gamble, creator economy strategist at IZEA, unpacks the latest creator economy shifts, from B2B vs B2C creator strategy to behavioural psychology, and the value of content creators in the modern industry.

    We also delve into which brands are winning at advocacy right now, how to turn consumers into advocates, and the impact of showing up in AI-powered search.

    In this episode, we cover:

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    The creator economy landscape; key trends, creator value, and why popularity is surging

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    B2B vs B2C creator strategy

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    How brands connect with consumers vs creators

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    The state of brand advocacy, who's doing it right, and how to earn it

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    Showing up in AI-powered search

    Chapters

    00:00 Welcome to Cannes Lions

    02:38 Top Creator Trends

    05:30 B2B vs B2C Creators Explained

    11:21 Creator Tiers and Trust

    14:14 Everyone Is a Creator

    17:12 The Current State of Advocacy

    22:18 Earning Brand Love

    26:20 How AI Search Will Impact

    🔔 New episodes every Wednesday — subscribe so you never miss an episode.

    FOLLOW LINDSEY

    Lindsey Gamble: https://www.instagram.com/lindseygamble_/?hl=en-gb

    FOLLOW US

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    Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/building_brand_advocacy

    TikTok: http://www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacy

    29 min
  3. All Brand Marketing Starts With Advocacy | Camilla Craven on AI, Community & Modern Brand Building

    Season 4, Episode 23

    Show notes

    In this week's episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Camilla Craven, former Global Brand & Marketing Director at FaceGym and now Fractional CMO & Consultant to multiple beauty brands, unpacks why advocacy is becoming the backbone of modern marketing strategy, from the operational realities of building community to the rise of employee-generated content and AI's growing role.

    We also dig into why the best marketing leaders aren't just measuring advocacy, they're listening.

    In this episode, we cover:

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    Advocacy's place in modern marketing and why it's no longer a nice-to-have

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    Community, influencers, and the power of actually listening

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    Tuning out industry noise to focus on what genuinely makes impact

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    Operational struggles, team structures, and the rise of employee-generated content

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    AI's growing role in how brands build and scale advocacy

    Chapters

    00:00 Welcome Back Camilla

    02:45 Advocacy Over Performance

    10:20 What To Believe When Everyone’s an Expert

    16:28 Fractional CMO Patterns

    20:10 Tools, Data, and Adoption

    21:57 The importance Of Listening First

    23:41 Measuring Advocacy Impact

    25:30 Influencer Performance Nuance

    27:07 Future Generations and The Social Media Ban

    28:29 Martha Stewart MAC Campaign

    33:39 The Rise In Employee Generated Content (ECG)

    39:39 AI Tool Consolidation

    43:14 Who Does Advocacy Best?

    44:41 TikTok Shop Brand Dilution

    49:56 Cringe or Community Game

    51:39 Wrap Up

    🔔 New episodes every Wednesday — subscribe so you never miss an episode.

    FOLLOW CAMILLA

    Camilla Craven: https://www.instagram.com/camillablyss/

    FOLLOW US

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    Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/building_brand_advocacy

    TikTok: http://www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacy

    Verity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/

    52 min
  4. Behind LOOKFANTASTIC: Rebuilding a £1B Retail Empire From the Inside

    Season 4, Episode 22

    Show notes

    In this week's episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Verity sits down with Georgie Fox, Head of Brand at LOOKFANTASTIC, to dissect what it actually takes to rebuild a brand's foundation from the inside out, and how community became their sharpest growth lever.

    This episode covers the brand-partnership relationship, why consumer connection has to run deeper than product, and how brands can fill the gap left by traditional media. Georgie shares the internal culture shifts that made it possible, LOOKFANTASTIC’s anti-gatekeeping approach to knowledge, and the "sausage machine" analogy that redefines what good marketing looks like.

    In this episode, we cover:

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    Rebuilding LOOKFANTASTIC's brand foundation, closing the business-social understanding gap, and why consumer connection must run deeper than product

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    How brands can fill the void left by traditional media and publishing, using community as the gateway through access

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    What good marketing actually looks like and how to measure it effectively using the "sausage machine" analogy

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    Building a fuelled 360 creator and affiliate strategy, from nurturing genuine partnership relationships to scaling the brand x partner model

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    Anti-gatekeeping as strategy, making employee content creation part of the role and earning real buy-in across the business

    Chapters

    00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro

    05:47 The Home of Iconic Beauty

    09:09 Building Brand Foundations

    16:29 Proving Brand Impact

    21:45 Anti Gatekeeping Strategy

    27:30 Creators and LOOKFANTASTIC’s Aspiration Balance

    29:43 Influencer Strategy Origins

    31:31 From Funnel To Flywheel

    37:29 Reddit And Authenticity

    41:12 Molly Mae’s Evolution

    42:51 Ambassadors Within The Community

    53:04 The Future Of Brand Marketing

    54:58 Cringe Or Community Quickfire

    56:01 Wrap Up

    🔔 New episodes every Wednesday — subscribe so you never miss an episode.

    FOLLOW LOOKFANTASTIC

    LOOKFANTASTIC: https://www.instagram.com/lookfantastic/

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lookfantastic?lang=en

    FOLLOW US

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    TikTok: http://www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacy

    Verity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/

    56 min
  5. The 5- Step Framework to Fast & Slow Social Strategy: Beth & Michael from Slice Social

    Episode 21

    Show notes

    In this week's episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Beth & Michael, founders of Slice social media agency, break down their 5-Step Social Strategy: Discovery, Storytelling, Challenge, Problem-Tension-Goal, and Solution. Plus, why the "Fast & Slow" approach to social is the framework that separates brands that win from brands that just post.

    This is an episode designed to give you direction in social media, to integrate a purpose into your posting and work strategically to reach your end objective.

    In this episode, we cover:

    00:00 Introduction

    05:15 The 5-Step Social Media Strategy

    06:45 Step 1: Discovery

    20:06 Step 2: Storytelling through strategy

    29:24 Step 3: The Challenge

    33:39 Step 4: Problem, Tension, Goal

    34:50 Step 5: Solution

    44:17 The Fast & Slow Approach To Social

    🔔 New episodes every Wednesday — subscribe so you never miss an episode.

    CONNECT WITH BETH & MICHAEL

    Beth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/betheleanorthomas/

    Michael: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelrichardcorcoran/

    Slice Social: https://www.slice-social.com/

    FOLLOW US

    Subscribe: http://www.youtube.com/@buildingbrandadvocacy

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    TikTok: http://www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacy

    Paul: TikTok: ⁠www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacy⁠

    Verity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/

    55 min
  6. Cannes Lions CMO on Community, Advocacy & What Actually Moves Revenue

    Season 4, Episode 20

    Show notes

    In this weeks episode of Building Brand Advocacy, we invite the CMO of Cannes Lions to join us ahead of the festival to unpack what's actually shifting in advocacy, creator marketing, and how the Lions are judged in 2026. plus hard strategies for measuring community, elevating marketing in the boardroom, and driving real ROI.

    In this episode, we cover:

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    What to expect from Cannes Lions in 2026

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    What’s changing in advocacy & creator marketing

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    The Lion judgement process at Cannes

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    Opportunities for CMOs to elevate marketing in boardrooms

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    How to effectively measure community

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    The next generation of CEO & CMO’s

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    Building community through credibility

    Chapters

    00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro

    01:36 How Cannes Lions Has Evolved

    05:20 CMO Pressure and Priorities

    09:05 How Cannes Lions Judging Works

    15:12 Proof Creativity Drives Growth

    18:31 Merging Brand and Performance

    22:14 Boardroom Alignment and Metrics

    29:31 How to Measure Community Impact

    34:19 The CMO of 2030

    39:25 You Cannot Buy Attention

    42:28 AI and Creative Possibility

    45:01 Cannes Week Wrap Up

    🔔 New episodes every Wednesday — subscribe so you never miss an episode.

    CONNECT WITH ILARIA

    LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/ilariapasquinelli

    FOLLOW US

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    Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/building_brand_advocacy

    TikTok: http://www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacy

    Paul: TikTok: ⁠www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacy⁠

    Verity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/

    46 min
  7. Is The Creator Economy Broken? ft. Manuel Albuquerque

    Season 4, Episode 19

    Show notes

    In this live episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Verity sits down with Manuel Albuquerque, founder & CEO of Prime Tag, to unpack the AI revolution reshaping the creator economy from the inside out.

    From the real pressures facing time-poor marketing teams to the problems AI is actually solving (and the myths it's not), Manuel brings the entrepreneur's perspective that brand builders need right now.

    In this episode, we cover:

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    Manuel’s journey to entrepreneurship in the influencer space

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    The time poor pressures of marketing teams

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    How AI is influencing the creator economy

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    The problem that AI is solving for marketing teams

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    Busting AI myths around the creator economy

    If you're navigating influencer strategy in an AI-first world, this one is essential listening.

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 People And Data First

    01:18 Creator Economy Boom

    01:59 From Basketball To Tech Startup

    04:08 The Influencer Stigma Debate

    05:24 Current Status: Bad Data And No Time

    06:38 AI Mindset Myth

    09:02 Augmented Intelligence Not Artificial Intelligence

    10:42 Myth Busting Rapid Fire

    12:17 How AI Is Changing Business Models

    15:29 Finding Effective Creator X Brand Matches

    16:45 Brand Advocacy Advice

    🔔 Subscribe to Building Brand Advocacy for weekly conversations with the people reshaping how brands grow.

    CONNECT WITH MANUEL

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/manuelvicalbuquerque/

    PrimeTag: https://www.primetag.com/

    FOLLOW US

    Verity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/

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    TikTok: http://www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacy

    18 min
  8. How Grace Andrews Builds A Content Strategy In 5 Steps

    Season 4, Episode 18

    Show notes

    We’re back with another mastermind episode. This week, Grace Andrews takes us through her 5 step framework for building a high performance content engine, from identifying content signals (before selecting platforms) to measuring success metrics that are relevant to you and your brand.

    In this episode, we cover:

    07:05 Step 1: Identifying Content Signals

    11:47 Step 2: Approach To Content Formats

    26:31 Step 3: The Platform Specific Strategy

    28:43 Step 4: Where Creators Fit Into Your Content Strategy

    32:56 Step 5: How To Measure For Success

    🔔 New episodes every Wednesday — subscribe so you never miss an episode.

    CONNECT WITH GRACE

    Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/graceandrewsss/⁠

    YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@graceandrewsss⁠

    TikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@graceandrews7⁠

    FOLLOW US

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    Paul: TikTok: ⁠⁠www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacy⁠⁠Verity: ⁠www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/

    39 min
  9. Building TRIP: How a Challenger Brand Conquered the Wellness Drinks Market

    Season 4, Episode 17

    Show notes

    In this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, I sit down with Alice Ratcliffe, Head of Brand at TRIP — the wellness drinks brand rewriting the rules of brand positioning in one of the most crowded categories on the market.

    Alice pulls back the curtain on how TRIP went from scrappy challenger to a brand that commands culture, loyalty, and shelf space — and what it's really taken to scale that story into the US.

    In this episode, we cover:

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    How to stand out in a saturated wellness & drinks market

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    TRIP's influencer strategy and why it's built differently to most other brands

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    Integrating celebrities into your brand without losing authenticity

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    The real strategy for brand building in the US

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    Why employee advocacy is one of the most underrated tools in a marketer's arsenal

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    How to integrate AI for effective brand building in 2026

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    The honest challenges of being the underdog and how to turn them into an advantage

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 The Polished Brand Problem

    02:03 Finding Branded White Space

    06:00 Regulation Into Advantage

    07:36 Always On Brand Building

    10:17 How To Earn Consumer Trust

    16:06 Creators Influencers Celebs

    23:25 US Expansion Playbook

    26:30 Approaching Employee Advocacy

    28:39 Scaling Without Gatekeeping

    29:51 Email List vs Community

    31:15 AI Vs IRL

    33:36 Hosting Inclusive Brand Events

    35:50 Winning on TikTok Shop

    39:52 Global Growth and Accounts

    44:26 Powerful Founder Partnerships

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    CONNECT WITH TRIP

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trip.drinks/

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@trip.drinks

    FOLLOW US

    Verity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/

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    TikTok: http://www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacy

    50 min
  10. Is your brand engineered for advocacy? | The Advocacy Maturity Model

    Season 4, Episode 16

    Show notes

    In this mastermind episode of Building Brand Advocacy, we break down the Advocacy Maturity Model, a strategic framework for diagnosing exactly where your brand sits on the advocacy spectrum and the precise steps to move from passive mentions to a fully activated community-led growth engine.

    Think of it as your strategic advocacy playbook, the kind of session your brand team needs to align on advocacy as a core brand lever rather than a marketing afterthought.

    Inside this episode:

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    The 5 stages of brand advocacy maturity and how to identify which stage you're at right now

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    Why most brands plateau at stage 2 and never break through to genuine brand love

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    The structural shifts your team needs to make at each stage of the model

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    How to turn community-led growth into a measurable brand asset

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    The metrics that actually matter when tracking advocacy momentum

    If you’re a marketing leader trying to restructure your team's advocacy strategy, this episode gives you the framework to stop guessing and start growing with intention.

    🔔 New episodes every Wednesday — subscribe so you never miss an episode.

    FOLLOW US

    Subscribe: http://www.youtube.com/@buildingbrandadvocacy

    Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/building_brand_advocacy

    TikTok: http://www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacy
    Verity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/

    31 min
  11. Grace Andrews: Why Your Employees Are Your Most Powerful Brand Asset in 2026

    Season 4, Episode 15

    Show notes

    In this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Verity sits down with Grace Andrews to unpack the real shifts happening in social right now and what forward-thinking brands are doing to stay ahead in 2026 and beyond.

    Grace brings a sharp, strategic lens to one of the most underutilised growth levers in marketing today: employee advocacy. We go deep on why building brand growth from the inside out isn't just about brand culture but something much bigger.

    We then go onto discuss how to build an effective and experimental content eco-system as well as understanding how to navigate YouTube as long form presence is growing within the digital landscape.

    In this episode, we cover:

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    The evolution of social trends shaping brand strategy in 2026

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    A strategic framework for building genuine employee advocacy

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    How to drive real brand growth through your people not just your paid channels

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    Effective content experimentation strategies that actually move the needle

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    Why YouTube is the deepest, most underrated content channel for brand building

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    The trends smart brands are already preparing for in 2026/2027

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Episode Trailer

    01:30 Meet Grace Andrews

    02:23 2024 Trend Check

    06:52 Employee Advocacy Basics

    09:20 Building The Employees Advocacy Infrastructure

    14:52 Ownership And Founder Role

    17:11 Incentivising Employee Advocacy

    19:22 Building A Content Experimentation System

    22:29Dummy Social Channels for Safe Testing

    24:09 Case Study of the Shameless Network

    28:48 YouTube vs Social Scrolling

    31:29 Where YouTube Fits into Teams

    33:48 Low Lift YouTube for Brands

    35:30 Future Creator Brand Partnerships

    Whether you're a founder, marketing lead, or brand strategist — this conversation will change how you think about where your next wave of growth actually comes from.

    🔔 Subscribe to Building Brand Advocacy for weekly conversations with the people reshaping how brands grow.

    CONNECT WITH GRACE

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/graceandrewsss/

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@graceandrewsss

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@graceandrews7

    FOLLOW US

    Verity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/

    Subscribe: http://www.youtube.com/@buildingbrandadvocacy

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    TikTok: http://www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacy

    37 min
  12. Why more brands should become entertainment first | The Red Bull Strategy

    Season 4, Episode 14

    Show notes

    In this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, we're unpacking the seismic shift happening in marketing right now: is branded entertainment replacing paid ads?

    We dig into why the smartest brands are investing in long-form content, storytelling, and entertainment-led campaigns, and how this changes everything from team structure to ROI measurement.

    What we cover:

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    Should brands have Global or local social media accounts

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    The perfect niche to scale strategy

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    Branded entertainment vs paid ads

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    The Redbull playbook

    Whether you're a founder, a marketing lead, or a brand builder trying to do more with less — this is the episode that reframes where your budget should actually be going.

    🔔 New episodes every Wednesday — subscribe so you never miss an episode.

    CONNECT WITH PAUL & VERITY

    Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulkarcher/

    Verity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/

    FOLLOW US

    Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulkarcher/

    Subscribe: http://www.youtube.com/@buildingbrandadvocacy

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    6 min
  13. Is Community The New Influencer? Founder of CLIQ Community App

    Season 4, Episode 13

    Show notes

    Are communities replacing influencers? In this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Paul sits down with Nicola Gunby, co-founder of CLIQ, to talk about why the brands winning right now aren't chasing reach, they're building belonging.

    We go deep on the concept of the 'third space' and why it might be the most underutilised tool in your brand's growth strategy right now.

    In this episode we cover:

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    The journey behind CLIQ and why Nicola built it

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    What 'third space' communities are and why they matter for brands

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    What it actually takes to build real, lasting community (it's not what you think)

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    How brands can use CLIQ as a community-building tool

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    Frameworks for measuring community impact — beyond vanity metrics

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    Online vs IRL: which builds deeper brand loyalty?

    This one is essential listening if you're a CMO or marketing lead questioning where influencer budgets should actually go in 2025.

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Introduction

    04:29 Community as the Third Place

    08:19 Where Brands Go Wrong with Community

    13:59 Cliq Brand Case Studies

    19:21 Measuring Community ROI

    26:17 Measuring Community Event Demand

    28:30 Tap Into Existing Communities

    29:40 Samsung Community Case Study

    35:17 Online vs In Person Community

    37:34 Sub Communities Strategy

    41:40 Geo Local Community

    44:18 Cringe Or Community

    🔔 New episodes every Wednesday — subscribe so you never miss an episode.

    CONNECT WITH NICOLA

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nicolargunby/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicola-gunby/
    CLIQ: https://www.instagram.com/findyourcliq/

    48 min
  14. Why Every Brand Should Think Like a Creator | Sidemen's Manager Reveals All

    Season 4, Episode 12

    Show notes

    Is influencer marketing dead? Jordan Schwarzenberger, the man behind the Sidemen's evolution from creators to a multi-million pound enterprise, thinks brands have got content eco-systems wrong. In this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, we break down why the smartest brands are ditching traditional influencer marketing and becoming organic content engines instead.

    Jordan reveals the exact content strategy that scaled the Sidemen from a YouTube group into a business empire and how any brand can steal from the creator economy strategy. We go deep on building a content hemisphere, why entertainment-first marketing beats ads, and how to turn community into customers through brand advocacy.

    In this episode we cover:

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    Sidemen evolution from creators to an enterprise business.

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    The opportunity for brands to become content engines.

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    Why influencer marketing is dead.

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    Why brands and 10 years behind in content and how to create a solution to get ahead.

    Whether you're a CMO, marketer or brand founder, this episode is your blueprint for building a content marketing strategy that actually compounds.

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Introduction

    02:38 Building the LADBible Agency

    07:16 Scaling The Sidemen Businesses

    11:16 Defining A Content Infrastructure

    12:27 Side Plus Membership Model

    17:27 How Brands Should Be Working With Creators

    20:23 End Of The Transactional Influencer Model

    23:04 Discovery IS Replacing Followers

    26:07 The Influencer Economy Collapse

    28:33 Traditional Campaigns Are Dead

    30:04 Monoculture To Micro Communities

    38:24 The CMO Playbook

    41:40 Contribution Marketing To Serve Then Sell

    🔔 New episodes every Wednesday — subscribe so you never miss an episode.

    CONNECT WITH JORDAN

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordanschwarzenberger/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jordanschwarz/

    TiKTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jordanschwarzenberger

    FOLLOW US

    Verity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/

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    TikTok: http://www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacy

    44 min
  15. How to Build, Scale & Actually Use AI in Marketing

    Season 4, Episode 11

    Show notes

    AI for brands is already here. It’s making a shift and as marketing teams, we should be reactive. But the reality is that most brands are still figuring out where to start.

    In this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, we break down the real state of AI for brands right now. What's working, what's just noise and how to make AI work for YOU without losing the human touch that drives real brand advocacy.

    In this episode, we cover:

    The current state of AI for brands

    How to make AI work for you and your team today

    How AI will reshape marketing resources and team structures

    Practical ways to use AI in your day-to-day work life

    Using AI to create real efficiencies across your content and marketing ops

    How to build, scale, and manage an AI team from scratch

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Build Your AI Native Dream Team

    02:32 Manager of Infinite Minds

    03:54 Onboarding and Feedback Loop

    09:49 Future Proof Marketing Roles Form AI

    15:14 Building AI Agents into Your Workflow

    22:30 Repurposing Content With Agents

    25:54 Scaling To 11 Agents

    31:58 AI Native Mindset Shift

    34:45 Create A Preference Sheet for AI

    38:34 Training Cadence And Growth

    Whether you're a brand team trying to do more with less, or a marketing leader figuring out how to upskill your team, this episode is your AI starter kit.

    🔔 Subscribe to watch our new episodes every Tuesday.

    CONNECT WITH PAUL & VERITY

    Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulkarcher/

    Verity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/

    FOLLOW US

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    43 min
  16. How To Build A Community-Led Brand From Scratch (If I Started Over) | Sophie Miller’s Masterclass

    Season 4, Episode 10

    Show notes

    In this mastermind episode, Sophie Miller (founder of Pretty Little Marketer) breaks down the exact tactical steps she’d take to build a high-engagement community from scratch in 2026.

    If you’re a brand, marketer or founder trying to turn followers into a real community engine, this episode is a step-by-step guide to catapult your community strategy.

    In this episode, you’ll learn:

    00:00 Introduction to community building

    00:56 The Platform Strategy

    05:06 Step 1: Connection Point

    08:19 Step 2: Mission Sentence

    11:09 Step 3: Connection To You, Connection To Each Other

    16:24 Step 4: Thin Content

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    CONNECT WITH SOPHIE

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiealicemiller/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sophiemillerrrr/

    Pretty Little Marketer: https://www.linkedin.com/company/prettylittlemarketer/

    FOLLOW US

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    Verity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/

    23 min
  17. Inside Trinny London, Benefit & MADE.com: The Truth About Building Brand Advocacy

    Season 4, Episode 9

    Show notes

    Are you building a real community around your brand or just spending budget on meaningless partnerships and vanity metrics?

    In this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Verity sits down with marketing consultant Lauren Spearman who has worked with Global brands including Benefit Cosmetics, MADE.com, Trinny London to unpack what genuine advocacy looks like today vs. a decade ago and why most influencer strategies are still stuck in 2014.

    We go deep on how to move from fabricated, performance-led “community” to truly invested brand advocates who buy, refer, and defend your brand online.

    In this episode, you’ll learn:

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    Evolution of brand advocacy over the last 10 years

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    How Benefit Cosmetics build a ‘warm’ brand through effective influencer strategies

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    How to find organic advocacy in your existing community

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    How to build real relationships with your influencer partners

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    What went into creative authentic advocacy at http://made.com/

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    The work behind Trinny London Tribe

    CMOs, brand and social leads, and anyone tired of pouring budget into influencer campaigns that don’t convert into real advocacy, retention, or revenue, this episode is for you.

    CHAPTERS

    02:37 Netmums and Real Community

    06:24 Inside Benefit Cosmetics

    12:20 Employee Advocacy in Action

    19:33 Benefit Mascara Maldives Launch

    21:37 Reframing advocacy at MADE.com

    24:52 Building the Advocacy at MADE.com

    30:28 Brand Advocacy vs Performance

    34:26 Treating Creators as True Partners

    37:26 Behind the Trinny Tribe Community

    40:36 Quick fire and Wrap Up

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    CONNECT WITH LAUREN

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenspearman/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurenspearman/

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@spearmanlauren

    FOLLOW US

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    42 min
  18. How Glow For It Used TikTok LIVE to Make 6 Figures (Step-by-Step)

    Season 4, Episode 8

    Show notes

    Glow For It didn’t just “do well” on TikTok Live, they drove 6-figures in revenue in a single live shopping stream. In this 5-minute masterclass, founder Daisy Kelly breaks down exactly how it happened and what every modern brand can steal from their TikTok strategy.

    In this episode, we unpack:

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    How Daisy turned community obsession into real-time purchase intent

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    The TikTok LIVE moment that tipped Glow For It into 6-figure territory

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    The structure of a high-converting TikTok Live Shopping session

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    Why TikTok Shop is replacing traditional “influencer trips” for smart brands

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    The mindset shift founders need to win in live commerce

    If you’re a founder, marketer, or growth lead wondering how to turn views into live sales, this is your shortcut. Think of it as a behind-the-scenes launch debrief: no fluff, just what actually moved the needle.

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Inside a Six-Figure TikTok Live

    01:24 The First 60 Seconds: Hooking Viewers with a Giveaway + Hero Offers

    02:24 The Offer That Made It Pop

    03:40 Behind-the-Scenes Chaos

    04:45 The Six-Figure Moment

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    CONNECT WITH GLOW FOR IT

    Glow For It TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@glowforitshop?lang=en-GB

    Glow For It Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glowforitshop/

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    6 min
  19. The 3‑Step Framework to Organic Brand Advocacy in 2026

    Season 4, Episode 7

    Show notes

    Influencer trips are dead and they’re killing your organic brand advocacy.

    This episode is your permission slip to stop burning budget on one-off influencer posts and replace them with an advocacy engine that compounds over time and generates serious EMV.

    In this advocacy masterclass, we break down a clear 3-step system to build organic brand advocates: the customers, creators, and community members who talk about you relentlessly without a pay cheque in sight. If you’re deep in your influencer strategy and unsure how to switch that to building real brand advocacy, this episode is for you.

    In this episode, we cover:

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    Why the traditional influencer marketing model is broken in 2026

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    The 3 steps to building a customer-powered advocacy engine

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    How to turn brand customers into high-impact brand ambassadors

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    The difference between one-off “influencer trips” and scalable advocacy systems

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    How to calculate EMV so you can prove ROI to your CMO, CFO, or board

    If you want to build a brand that customers proudly talk about, this 3-step strategy is your new advocacy playbook.

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Why influencer marketing is broken

    04:29 The problem with influencer trips & brand dinners

    06:10 Building an organic advocacy engine: map your brand network

    07:41 Activating advocates: channels, CRM, and ROI of marketing to fans

    11:14 The 3-part framework: Who → Activities → Rewards (airline loyalty lessons)

    14:13 Advocacy is a feeling: experiences, founder hustle, and early community building

    16:43 From influencer pyramid to advocate segments (pro vs amateur vs semi-pro)

    19:23 Measuring real brand advocacy: real EMV, revenue, and content value

    24:05 The most untapped opportunity: employees & retail teams as advocates

    26:36 90-second tactical recap + wrap-up

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    CONNECT WITH PAUL & VERITY

    Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulkarcher/

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    27 min
  20. The Exact Strategic Framework To Build A Community-Led Brand (ft Sophie Miller)

    Season 4, Episode 6

    Show notes

    Most brands think they have a community, but they’re actively building an audience, not community engagement. In this week's episode, we dive into community building strategy with Sophie Miller, Founder of Pretty Little Marketer. Sophie reveals why relying on followers alone is a dangerous game for modern brands.

    “If you don't build your community, someone else will define it for you”. We break down exactly how to transition from "broadcasting" to "building" and why community-led growth is the most defensible asset your brand can own in this era of digital marketing.

    In this episode, you’ll learn:

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    The exact 3-step system to build a loyal brand community.

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    Audience vs. Community: The critical difference that most marketing teams miss.

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    Why silence is a liability and how to take ownership of your brand narrative.

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    How to turn passive followers into active brand advocates.

    Whether you are a Social Media Manager or a Brand Director, this episode covers the marketing strategy you need to future-proof your brand.

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Introduction to Sophie Miller

    02:25 The Birth of Pretty Little Marketer

    04:50 From Despare to Community Building

    06:35 Strategic Growth and Community Engagement

    13:22 Community Monetisation and Membership Launch

    20:28 The Power of Community in Business

    21:04 Navigating LinkedIn and Social Media

    22:51 Building a Community-First Strategy

    24:01 3 Pillars of PLM's Community

    28:30 Measuring Community Success

    33:30 Common Mistakes in Community Building

    37:26 Final Thoughts and Community Advice for Brands

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    CONNECT WITH SOPHIE

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiealicemiller/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sophiemillerrrr/

    Pretty Little Marketer: https://www.linkedin.com/company/prettylittlemarketer/

    FOLLOW US

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    40 min