But Also with Michael and Asher

Jenny Hagel (Late Night with Seth Meyers, Jenny Hagel Gives Advice) joins Michael and Asher to talk Instagram algorithms, attachment theory (round 2!), and first-grade soccer in Puerto Rico.

00:00:00 Cold open
00:00:30 Welcome Jenny Hagel
00:00:50 NYC's weirdly specific high schools (Harbor School)
00:03:55 Learning "facts" from Instagram
00:05:35 Why lesbians love attachment theory
00:06:35 Jenny Hagel Gives Advice (the live show)
00:09:25 What's in your algorithm?
00:13:10 Asher's pull-up demo
00:16:05 News fatigue and working at Late Night
00:20:10 Screen time limits and tricks for self-control
00:23:00 Flossing, gum grafts and horsehair toothbrushes
00:28:00 What does a late night writer actually do all day?
00:30:20 Never playing sports as a kid
00:33:35 First grade soccer and growing up Puerto Rican
00:38:00 Our parents and how we parent
00:41:15 Cool things we learned on Instagram (pitching, dribbling)
00:44:10 The Capeman and In the Heights
00:46:10 "If I win the lottery, you'll never see me again"
00:53:10 The hedonic treadmill
00:54:45 The Goodnight Moon fortune
00:59:10 It's Raining Fish and Late Night Trash
01:04:45 Michael doesn't follow anyone on Instagram
01:09:10 What's the point of what you do?
01:12:40 Jokes Seth Can't Tell
01:14:40 Full-Throated Endorsement: How to Hide an Empire
01:20:45 Wrap-up

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Margaret Hoover, host of Firing Line on PBS, joins Michael and Asher to talk about working Hurricane Katrina from inside the Bush White House, how the Republican Party went off the rails, and confronting Bill O'Reilly on her own show.

00:00:00 Cold Open
00:00:18 Giuliani Water and Kidney Stones
00:04:24 Morphine, Propofol, and Not Sleeping
00:09:29 Wikipedia Pages and Family Fact Checks
00:11:56 Security Clearance and Homeland Security
00:14:09 Hurricane Katrina from the White House
00:19:35 Herbert Hoover's Theory of Government
00:24:29 Great-Grandpa Hoover and Leaving the GOP
00:26:29 How the Bush White House Went Off the Rails
00:32:01 Understanding Evangelical Voters
00:34:55 Trump-Voting Family and Relatable Politicians
00:40:32 Bill O'Reilly and the Disgraced Men's Corner
00:46:08 Interviewing Marjorie Taylor Greene
00:49:43 Thom Tillis and the King's New Clothes
00:55:08 Fixing Congress and Running for Office
00:59:15 Grief, Family, and Slowing Down
01:03:13 Quirky New York and Colorado Sports
01:06:42 Competitive Swimming
01:11:41 TV, Books, and Endless Organizing
01:18:03 Recommendation: Ted Lasso Season 4
01:22:08 Outro

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Chloe Troast (Furious, SNL) joins Michael and Asher to talk about being the new kid at SNL, small planes, and her only shopping experience at Paragon Sports. Plus, a full-throated endorsement of a tiny ice cream maker.

00:00:00 Cold Open
00:00:14 Being the New Kid at SNL
00:00:42 Paragon Sports
00:04:22 The Swimming Situationship
00:11:57 Chloe's Watery Death Wish
00:12:32 Was JFK Jr Asking For It?
00:19:04 Insulting Doppelgangers
00:25:30 Think About A Phone...
00:28:32 Chloe Troast, Former Painting Class Model
00:32:54 Why Asher Draws
00:34:40 Getting Recognized In Public
00:43:02 Musical Theater Kid Alert
00:47:33 Minored in Middle Eastern Studies
00:52:44 Michael Tutored Saida
00:55:04 Being the New Kid at SNL
01:00:30 Leaving SNL
01:10:43 Chloe in Furious
01:14:25 Full Throated Endorsement: Tiny Ice Cream Maker

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Eliana Kwartler (Late Show with Stephen Colbert) is the guest Asher and Michael thought they had to prepare the least for. We chat attachment theory, the school essay she wrote about 9/11, and what (if anything) she misses about dating men.

00:00:00 Cold Open

00:00:21 Welcome Eliana Kwartler

00:01:14 Childhood Nicknames

00:03:06 Bullied, or the Bully?

00:09:57 Attachment Theory and "Attached"

00:16:05 Guessing Everyone's Attachment Style

00:20:31 Should Parents Control the Curriculum?

00:25:50 Philosophy Class: Turtles All the Way Down

00:29:29 Mary Oliver's "The Journey," From Memory

00:36:19 Reciting The Raven and Hamlet

00:38:07 Asher's Thousand Guinea Pigs

00:41:03 The Aunt Who Burned Down the House

00:43:30 Eliana's 9/11 Essay at Age Seven

00:46:52 Living Through History

00:50:17 Low Rise, Wide Leg

00:54:33 Where Does the Butt Crack Go?

00:59:07 Michael's Abu Dhabi Romper

01:01:25 Getting Naked in Restaurant Bathrooms

01:07:37 Anything Good About Dating Men?

01:12:50 Are Marvel Movies Straight Man Coded?

01:22:00 Full-Throated Endorsement: Custom Earplugs

01:27:03 Outro

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Paul Dinello (Strangers with Candy, Exit 57) stops by to discuss lifting calves, Psycho-Biddy films, and the Beatles Vs Bob Dylan.

00:00:00 Cold Open
00:00:30 Intro and Housekeeping
00:01:32 Rocco vs. the Inflatable Chef
00:04:03 Can Alley: When Annoying Noises Become Funny
00:08:04 Rocco at The Late Show
00:10:35 Life After The Late Show
00:12:41 The Lindsay Lohan Oreo Commercial
00:16:04 Streaming Ads and the Pause Ad
00:19:44 Paul's Wikipedia Quote
00:22:38 Pull-Up Showdown
00:27:30 Getting Older and Forgetting Names
00:31:44 "I Have to Check With My Wife"
00:35:44 Milo and the Calf
00:40:33 The Milking Farm
00:43:37 Beatles vs. Dylan
00:47:16 Lovely Rita, Meter Maid
00:49:22 Marcus Aurelius' Meditations
00:54:31 Confidence
00:59:25 Fear of Failure and Writing to Deadline
01:02:14 Writing vs. Performing and the Joy of Collaboration
01:06:38 Full Throated Endorsement: Psycho-Biddy Movies
01:12:41 Outro

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Comedian Liza Treyger (Survival of the Thickest) joins Michael and Asher to talk about getting kicked by a stunt horse and which cartoon characters audiences most want to sleep with.

00:00:00 Cold Open
00:00:22 Welcome Liza Treyger
00:00:35 The Super on the Ladder
00:03:48 Hamptons Birthday Weekend
00:05:31 Heads Up, Wavelength, and Game Night
00:09:28 Birthday Dinner and the Best Guinness in NYC
00:12:18 Dance Nights and the Dreaded Dance Circle
00:16:48 Cigarette Phases
00:19:08 Spice Girls Birthday
00:20:45 Chicago on Broadway and the Best Year Ever
00:23:14 Arthur Chains, Labubus, and Cute Dogs
00:27:10 Dogs conversation continued from earlier episodes
00:29:05 Cartoon Crushes
00:32:18 Getting Kicked by a Stunt Horse
00:35:00 Liza vs. the AI Guys
00:37:14 AI at the Doctor's Office
00:40:17 Will AI Replace Art?
00:48:46 Deleted Reviews
00:51:54 Sponsored Results, Surveillance Pricing, and Self-Checkout
00:57:43 The Regulars
01:00:50 Full-Throated Endorsement: Reading Books
01:08:17 Backgammon with Po

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Comedian George Civeris (StraightioLab, A Sense of Urgency) joins Michael and Asher to talk chronic health mysteries, hair loss science, and why Materialists secretly rules.

00:00 Cold Open
00:28 Welcome George
01:11 Minoxidil and Family Hair Genetics
02:54 George's Laundry List of Medical Problems
06:45 Hair Transplants, Bad Plugs, and Political Bald Spots
16:06 Hair Systems and the Patreon GoFundMe
20:00 Materialists vs Past Lives
22:55 Mortal Kombat 2 and the Case for Fun Bad Movies
26:41 Ranking the Best Picture Noms Gay to Straight
30:20 Prescreening Movies for Mom
32:01 Whatever Happened to Dodgeball Era Comedy
35:07 Is Game Night a Straight Movie?
38:43 The Gay Game Night Remake and Orchard Project Memories
41:56 George's Writer Not Actor Origin Story
43:08 Respecting Acting as a Craft
48:27 Touring Chaos: Green Rooms and Sound Checks
53:54 Segments, Episode Length, and Favorite Podcasts
1:01:46 Full Throated vs Mid Throated Endorsements
1:03:19 Mid Throat Endorsements: Drinks, Lotion, and Microplastics
1:12:47 Structured Hangouts vs Just Vibing
1:14:19 George's Full Throated Endorsement: Standup Specials
1:17:47 Outro

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Harvey Guillén (What We Do in the Shadows, Rocky Horror on Broadway) joins Michael and Asher for a real romp. They alo get into rat sympathy, learning Wicked in Japanese, a spider infested computer, and Harvey's Netflix true crime podcast Killer Stories.

00:00 Cold Open
00:31 Housekeeping & Show Plugs
01:37 Meet Harvey Guillén
02:17 Covid on Watch What Happens Live
03:13 Broadway Understudies & Swings
06:04 Musical Theater School Stories
08:26 Central Park Breakdancers & Talent vs. Tenacity
11:04 Strict School Rules & the Late Policy
18:11 Aikido Spanking Stories
21:04 First Gig: Moving to Japan
27:22 Covid on Set with Susan Sarandon
32:42 Moving to NYC, LA, and Landing "Huge"
38:28 Broadway: The Hardest Job & Rocky Horror
41:44 The "You Look Great" Backhanded Compliment
47:11 If You Give a Mouse a Cookie & Rat Sympathy
52:11 The Spider Infested Computer
54:54 Do Flies Wash Their Hands?
56:15 The Orphan Sloth Video & Sherie Rene Scott
60:24 What's Next: Action Roles on Shadows
62:28 Killer Stories: Harvey's True Crime Podcast
66:41 Is New York Actually Scary?
72:00 Full Throated Endorsement: Seafood Boil

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Rachel Abrams (co-host of The Daily) joins the podcast to finally settle the debate: was E.T. slimy or dry? She also talks about her journey to becoming a host of The Daily, and gives a full-throated endorsement of the chicken at Medieval Times.

00:00:00 Cold Open: The Rocky Raccoon Weather Bit
00:00:28 Welcome to But Also, With Guest Rachel Abrams
00:01:03 Rachel's 17 Years in Journalism, From Variety to the Times
00:04:12 The Moonves Investigation and the Source Who Lost Everything
00:06:49 How Rachel Became a Host of The Daily
00:08:43 Michael's Wife Thinks Rachel Hosts The Daily Show
00:10:58 The Fake 49ers Player Scammer
00:12:18 Only Recognized as "Michael Barbaro"
00:14:38 The Craft of Sounding Natural on the Radio
00:19:10 Unconventional Paths Into the New York Times
00:23:18 Ira Glass's Advice on Leaning Into Humor
00:25:22 Finding Humor in Dark and Serious Stories
00:32:48 The Philosophy of Comedy and Truth
00:34:10 Segment: The Daily Quiz
00:40:36 Google Thinks Rachel Abrams Is Dead
00:41:15 Party Tricks: Presidents and Days of the Week
00:50:17 Rachel's Childhood Radio Career
00:52:33 Life After Late Night and Chasing Comedy Jobs
00:58:35 Ayahuasca, MDMA, and Psychedelic Confessions
01:04:15 Full Throated Endorsement: Medieval Times Chicken
01:10:37 Was E.T. Wet or Dry? The Spielberg Story
01:13:45 Outro

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Comedian Emmy Blotnick (What's Her Secret?) joins Michael and Asher for a debate on matcha v coffee, dueling theories on who really invented the hamburger, and a detour through museum size preferences. They also try to crack the mystery of a stranger's stuffed bell pepper texts before Emmy closes with a full throated endorsement of PBS Passport.

00:00:00 Cold open: the pepper tease
00:00:36 Matcha, coffee, and caffeine confessions
00:06:08 World Cup memories and soccer fandom
00:07:01 Finding fame later in life
00:09:37 Michael's Scooby-Doo tic
00:11:40 Childhood career dreams
00:12:55 Got Milk ads and the milk mustache debate
00:18:41 Modeling gigs gone wrong
00:22:59 Hometowns, pizza, and the hamburger debate
00:27:47 Niche museums we love
00:30:57 Stendhal syndrome and how Houdini died
00:35:35 Family heritage surprises
00:39:20 A West Wing detour and Hungarian food debate
00:46:41 Budapest, bathhouses, and Asher's beret era
00:50:26 Weirdest things we did as kids
00:56:26 Emmy's new special, What's Her Secret?
00:58:04 CSO nostalgia and the special's reception
01:00:38 Community notes and getting corrected online
01:04:46 Celebrities who avoid social media and Instagram anxiety
01:08:21 Bell pepper texts and other side quests
01:15:07 Full throated endorsement: PBS Passport
01:18:42 Outro and the pepper challenge

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Four shrimp for $30, a Fightmaster obsession, zero eye contact...D'Arcy Carden gets weird with us, and it rules.

We cover a scientific breakdown of why spoilers don't ruin anything, a deep dive into her music obsession, an invented facial expression that might be a medical marvel, and a full-throated defense of $4-a-shrimp cocktail. Also - wink theory, The Odyssey discourse, and one hotel-hallway flex.

0:00 - Mickey Mouse Ears Cold Open

0:30 - Meet D'Arcy Carden

1:19 - The Severance Head Space

2:55 - The Favorite Poem Challenge

5:36 - The Surprise Apostrophe Origin Story

9:00 - Press Tour Outfit Confessions

11:30 - Do You Actually Like Doing Press?

15:11 - The Great Spoiler Debate

19:47 - Down the Gru Rabbit Hole

25:36 - Wink vs. Blink Showdown

33:52 - Inventing the Chin Cleft Trick

37:40 - Podcast Rotos & Hardcore History

43:27 - Fightmaster Fandom & Death Cab Deep Cuts

54:20 - The Fuck-It Bucket Tradition

56:16 - Why Are There Still New Songs?

1:04:41 - Hot Takes on The Odyssey

1:10:13 - Full-Throated Endorsement: Shrimp Cocktail

1:15:58 - Happy Birthday, Willa & Outro

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Gary Gulman is a stand up comedian known for acclaimed stand up specials The Great Depresh, Grandiloquent, and Born on 3rd Base. He talks to Asher and Michael about turning down endorsement deals, a cataract surgery that gave him 20/20 vision overnight, and the ethics of corporate gigs and sponsorships. He endorses John Steinbeck's East of Eden.

0:00:00 Cold Open
0:00:19 Intro
0:00:51 Turning Down Gigs and Selling Out
0:06:05 The Cataract Lens "Miracle"
0:07:34 Sponsorship Ethics, Palantir and Weight Watchers
0:12:00 Corporate Gigs and Second City
0:14:45 Grandiloquent, Born on Third Base and the New Tour
0:17:23 Building a Themed Show and the "Cracker Moment"
0:20:42 Comedy During a "Fascist Takeover"
0:27:12 Confidence, Ignorance and Dunning-Kruger
0:29:58 Celtics Fan, Knicks Finals Run
0:33:05 Playing Basketball Together
0:38:40 Reenacting NBA Games Alone
0:41:41 Biking, E-Bikes and the Shattering Helmet
0:44:06 Acting, Life & Beth and Training
0:48:35 Last Comic Standing and the Touring Struggle
0:52:08 The State Abbreviations Joke and the "Documentary"
0:55:17 The Omelet Chef
0:57:44 The Psych Ward and the Great Depression Special
1:00:17 Night Staff, Validation and Ending a Set Early
1:08:43 The Gary Goldman No-Show Story
1:09:58 East of Eden Full-Throated Endorsement
1:18:46 Wrap-Up and Outro

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Aaron Jackson (Dicks: The Musical, The Opposition with Jordan Klepper, Author of The Astonishing Life of August March) joins Michael and Asher to discuss Patti LuPone, Bruce Springsteen's eating habits, and the true difference between jealousy and envy.

00:00:00 Cold Open
00:00:14 Welcome Aaron Jackson
00:03:23 Nick at Nite Nostalgia
00:06:39 NYPD Nuts
00:07:05 Podcast Swag
00:08:44 Aaron's Dance Background
00:09:52 Colonial Williamsburg
00:12:08 Ballet Class Stories
00:18:59 Springsteen & Patti LuPone
00:21:13 Heckler Etiquette
00:23:13 Cell Phones in Theater
00:26:03 Hakuna Matata
00:29:51 Back to Springsteen
00:31:28 One Meal a Day
00:35:05 Gum Clown
00:44:08 Longhand vs Computer
00:45:52 $400 Million Hypothetical
00:51:34 Jealousy as Motivator
00:52:04 Jealousy vs Envy
00:54:19 Movie Premiere Story
00:56:35 Too High at the Premiere
01:00:54 How Newsy Is Aaron
01:01:47 DSA Primaries
01:10:20 Princess Diana Beanie Baby
01:15:43 Disney Background Check
01:17:38 Outro

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Jen Spyra is a writer whose work has been featured in the New Yorker. She was a senior writer at the Onion and also wrote for The Late Show with Stephen Colbert for four seasons. She joins us for a conversation about catchin d while havin' cancer, how gossip is good, and cowards in the republican party.

00:00:00 Cold Open
00:00:30 Welcome to But Also
00:01:03 Life in the Samurai Hole
00:02:05 The "Fucking It Out" Coffee Shop Ritual
00:06:17 Coffee Shops vs. Libraries
00:08:33 Pomodoro, Phone Bricks, and Deadlines
00:12:57 The Saratoga Springs Writer's Retreat
00:14:15 On Being Around "Real" Writers
00:15:57 Cancer in High School
00:22:44 Dads, Weight, and the Wisconsin Pizza Years
00:27:08 Obsession, Wish Fulfillment, and Black Mirror
00:30:15 Critiquing Other People's Work Publicly
00:32:40 The MFA and Getting Mad
00:35:31 Improv Team Scapegoats
00:40:19 Everything Is Copy
00:45:32 The 65 Coats Theory
00:47:33 In Defense of Gossip
00:53:15 Why Jen Is a Good Hang
00:56:38 The Teleprompter Betting Scandal
01:01:25 Sports Betting Morality
01:07:28 Nobody Will Say Who Won 2020
01:12:06 Unrelatable Liars and Permanent Legacies
01:14:57 Full Throated Endorsement: TURN
01:20:23 Outro

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Josh Gondelman joins Michael and Asher to talk apartment disasters, sneaker culture, insurance mascots, and the books he can't stop recommending.

0:00 Cold Open/Intro

0:58 The Great Apartment Flood

6:23 "Freak My Sneaks"

9:10 Pimp My Ride Ruined People's Lives

11:50 Jake From State Farm and J.K. Simmons

17:24 Josh's Twitter Pep Talk Era

20:05 The Modern Seinfeld Twitter Account

21:53 Getting Typecast After One Big Job

26:37 Why SubwayTakes Can't Be Cloned

28:03 Furniture Assembly and Contractor Disasters

33:46 We’re Eating It

36:11 The Sandwich Line

40:03 Would You Hand Over Your Watch?

42:40 The Wrong Sandwich

44:31 Forbidden Egg Rolls and Gefilte Fish

46:55 Josh's Bar Mitzvah on Masada

51:16 Keeping Jewish Traditions His Own Way

56:29 Restaurant Pacing and Wine Standoffs

59:20 Optimistic Josh

1:01:45 The Pressure of Being Too Nice

1:06:37 What Josh Tells New Comedians

1:10:28 Full Throated Endorsements Segment

1:11:04 Josh's Wife Picks His Books

1:15:07 Josh's Current Reading Pile

1:17:44 Outro / Goodbyes

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Rachel Antonoff is a fashion designer, dog lover, and has strong feelings about plungers.

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00:00:00 Cold Open
00:00:30 Convincing Michael to Get a Dog
00:05:15 Frantic Vet Emails to Dr. Thompson
00:08:14 Talking to Pets in Weird Voices
00:10:56 Show Tunes and the Miss Saigon Obsession
00:12:03 Playing Annie at the JCC
00:13:41 Fiddler on the Roof: Topol vs. Zero Mostel
00:15:01 Rachel's Fashion Brand and the Tevye Bit
00:21:12 Theatrical Fashion Shows and Pink Phones
00:23:10 Fashion Trends: Big Shorts and Big Pants
00:24:03 Designing for Comfort (and Pockets)
00:25:54 The Great Crocs Debate
00:29:48 Sexual Harassment Seminar Stories
00:32:26 The Harris Wittels Story
00:34:00 DARE and Being a Rule Follower
00:36:48 Bullying, Pranks, and the Camp Dance
00:44:56 The Late Show Wrap Party Dance Floor
00:49:26 Self-Consciousness About Photos
00:52:17 Braces, Retainers, and Invisalign
00:55:40 Looksmaxing, Goofing, and Fart Rooms
01:00:37 Full-Throated Endorsements: Dogs on the Internet and AI Margaret
01:03:27 Endorsement: Hotel Bathroom Design
01:05:29 Endorsement: Don't Clean Before Guests
01:08:58 Endorsement: Psyllium Husk
01:11:06 Endorsement: Single-Use Plungers
01:15:19 Outro and Credits

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Jordan Klepper (The Daily Show) joins Michael and Asher to talk field reporting, the "Brick Suit Guy," and what actually changes someone's mind when the cameras are off. Plus: DOGE, voter ID, Graham Platner, dad life, and trips to the gastroenterologist.

00:00:00 Cold Open
00:00:22 Welcome
00:00:59 Podcast Photos, Dress Code, and Homework
00:05:03 Introducing Jordan Klepper
00:05:16 Standup, Storytelling, and the PowerPoint Show
00:07:10 Suffering Fools and Life on the Road
00:08:23 The Brick Suit Guy Story
00:12:53 Friendship Across the Political Divide
00:19:57 Is Political Comedy Actually Helpful?
00:23:07 The Socratic Method of Field Interviews
00:26:41 Doge, Voter ID, and Moments of Doubt
00:37:01 The Housing Bill and the Filibuster
00:40:46 Grace for RFK Jr and the Cabinet
00:46:31 The Madman Theory
00:50:37 2026 Predictions and Graham Platner
00:56:00 Patrick Dempsey and Being a Dad
00:59:24 Who Owns an Embarrassing Story
01:01:47 Doctor Stories: Clinton, Colonoscopy, and the Giant Cardiologist
01:14:59 The Colonoscopy Nap
01:20:49 Full Throated Endorsements: The Agency and 24
01:26:22 Outro

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Taylor Ortega is an actress & comedian starring in Big Mistakes on Netflix. She chats with Michael and Asher about Scents, fashion shows, and Ipods

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00:00:00 Cold Open
00:00:25 Fashion Week Nerves and Celine
00:03:50 Nominal Determinism and the Winner Loser Twins
00:05:44 Smells, Signature Scents, and Bad Breath
00:13:15 Coffee, Sleep Schedules, and Late Night Sports
00:15:49 Gray Hair and the Wizard Aging Debate
00:18:32 Show Intro
00:18:48 Welcoming Taylor Ortega and Big Mistakes Season 2
00:23:35 Set Stories and the QVC Amazon Gig
00:28:03 Carrying a Lead Role and Improv on Set
00:31:05 Writing Comedy for a Casino in Macau
00:32:55 Craft, Repetition, and Watching Great Performers
00:36:16 Astrology and Birth Charts
00:40:35 Remember When: The First iPod on the Bus
00:45:27 You Don't Own Me, Brick, and Silent Retreats
00:49:43 Remember When: Bees in the Trap with Jimmy Fallon
00:56:27 Remember When: The Hamster Mug Shot
01:00:46 Full Throated Endorsements: Local News and Kelly and Mark
01:05:50 Post Show Spirals and Permanent Records
01:08:19 Celine Favorites and Endorsing Widow's Bay
01:11:07 Full Throated Endorsement: Sports
01:15:33 Plugs and Outro

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Jeff Hiller is an Emmy Award Winning Actor, Comedian, and Improviser. He starred as Joel in the Emmy Winning TV Show Somebody Somewhere, and he also stars as Dale on the TV show Widow's Bay on Apple TV Plus.

But Also is produced by Suite Tea Studio

0:00 Welcome to But Also
0:29 Introducing Jeff Hiller
1:14 Nobody Expected the Emmy
3:10 The Night-Before Party
6:40 The Call ("I'm Getting Canceled")
9:00 Did the Show Win? The Writers Mix-Up
18:40 Improv, RaaaatScraps and "Is the Witch in This?"
27:36 A Memoir Obsessive
29:13 The "As I Lay Dying" Audiobook Disaster
31:30 Jeff Hiller Reads to You
37:13 Lennon Parham and UCB
38:05 Back to Theology (Eventually)
41:08 Culturally Jewish and the Rob Schneider Thing
45:58 The Church That Raised Him
48:55 I Could Be in a Cult
52:11 Will He Do Theater Again?
55:17 The Cat That Upstaged Romeo
59:39 Full Throated Endorsements
63:56 Jonathan the 194-Year-Old Tortoise
68:35 In Defense of the Chicken Thigh

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Jay Jurden stops by to talk about Miss Saigon, Playing MSG, and what type of men grandmama's find attractive.

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00:00:00 Intro
00:00:48 Half white, half Asian discourse
00:02:56 Miss Saigon and Bui Doi
00:04:32 It's Raining Fish and the stunt double
00:06:50 Height, the doctor, and fainting
00:13:33 Asher's dog on the train
00:17:23 Short kings, charisma, and honesty
00:27:13 Cockiness and being disliked
00:30:21 MSG and the Katy Perry story
00:34:21 Justin Trudeau and grandmama handsome
00:38:31 Asher the bean-grabbing superhero
00:40:10 Knicks, Nets, and Asher the basketball mountain
00:44:52 Comic book deep cuts: the Blob and X2's Pyro
00:50:44 Broadway audiences and Nathan Lane
00:57:40 Jay's quest for a grandma
00:59:31 Death of a Salesman and Cats: The Jellicle Ball
01:06:17 Naming the segment: Full Throated
01:08:11 Full Throated: New Balance and an ode to nurses
01:14:42 Asher's elephant and animal IDs
01:19:21 Bounty paper towels and Drake
01:26:39 Where to find Jay and outro

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