Podcast

Changing The Industry Podcast

Automotive, Business, Leisure, Management

This podcast is dedicated to changing the automotive industry for the better, one conversation at a time.

Whether you're a technician, vendor, business owner, or car enthusiast, we hope to inspire you to improve for your customers, your careers, your businesses, and your families.

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Episodes
353
Releases
Weekly
Typical length
1 hr 1 min
On air since
2020
Latest episode
1 day ago

Episodes

353 episodes, newest first

  1. Episode 293 - Are Industry Events Worth It? Debating Costs, Culture, and Team Growth With Limitless Leadership

    Episode 293

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, Lucas and David welcome Josh Parnell, founder and CEO of Limitless Leadership, and leadership coach Bret Beitler. The conversation focuses on leadership development in the automotive industry, with Josh highlighting the importance of empowering team members and building a culture of coachability and accountability. The group explores the value and return on investment of team engagement at industry events, discussing both the benefits and the practical challenges of shutting down a shop for staff training.

    00:00 Concerns about closing the shop

    06:17 Employee engagement and productivity

    15:31 Previewing industry trends and vendors

    21:25 Encouraging team feedback and ideas

    26:20 Coaching through questions and discovery

    31:59 Embracing a coachable mindset

    35:02 Critiquing Social Media Consumption

    38:50 Conceptualizing Hypotheticals on Instagram

    46:46 Empowering leadership and team development

    48:58 Discussion on Milwaukee Pipeline Event

    59:06 Building a Future in the U.S.

    01:02:25 Awkward store encounter

    01:05:16 Wrapping up the discussion

    1 hr 6 min
  2. Episode 292 - Unlocking Employee Potential and Navigating Turnover With Brian Zemba

    Episode 292

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, Lucas Underwood and David Roman join Brian Zemba, founder of CHG Leadership Consulting. Brian Zemba highlights the lack of leadership training among shop owners and the resulting impact on workplace culture and employee satisfaction. David Roman offers a counterpoint, questioning whether employees truly know what they want and emphasizing the challenges of motivating and retaining talent. Together, the trio explores the concept of "positive turnover"—helping employees find roles that fit their strengths, even if it means moving on—which can ultimately strengthen a shop's culture and success.

    00:00 Auto repair pricing and convenience

    09:40 Importance of Leadership Training

    13:25 Mechanics as consumer advocates

    17:56 Employee dependency and retention

    27:51 Using emotional intelligence

    32:25 Discussing effective communication and culture

    34:22 Understanding Positive Turnover

    42:48 Teaching kids entrepreneurship skills

    45:06 Coaching and wisdom in leadership

    50:34 Generational differences and workforce quality

    59:51 Being curious in business relationships

    01:01:18 Seeking understanding and ending conflict

    1 hr 3 min
  3. Episode 291 - Pricing for Profit and Purpose in the Modern Auto Shop with Josh & Pixi Pickthall

    Episode 291

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, David and Lucas welcome Pixi Pickthall and Josh from Mesa, Arizona. Pixi and Josh share their unique approach to shop ownership, blending Josh’s decades of industry experience with Pixi’s social work background to create a highly personalized customer experience. The conversation dives deep into the challenges of setting proper labor rates, the importance of understanding financial metrics, and the need to balance quality service with fair profitability.

    00:00 Managing warehouse logistics

    09:25 Name change and market saturation

    12:50 Observations from working at dealership

    17:16 Challenges in hiring skilled technicians

    22:29 Implementing DVX for consistency

    29:16 Improving client experience

    36:25 Handling customer complaints

    39:22 Court warranty responsibility discussion

    45:55 Talking auto shop math basics

    49:50 Struggling with car ownership choices

    59:17 Financial stability and customer selection

    01:02:01 Seeking expert financial advice

    01:09:12 Auto Repair Shop Basics series

    01:10:48 Facing challenges and setbacks

    1 hr 14 min
  4. Episode 290 - ADAS Calibrations, Shop Liability, and the Role of Industry Associations With Tom Elder & Joe Ocello

    Episode 290

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, Lucas and David sit down with Joe Ocello and Tom Elder from AASP New Jersey to discuss the state of the mechanical and collision repair industries. Tom shares his perspective on the growing need for specialized education and proper documentation as vehicles become more technologically advanced. Joe emphasizes the importance of ongoing technical training and communication to keep independent shops competitive and safe.

    00:00 Teaching and building a skilled team

    08:22 Ignoring safety instructions

    14:35 Discussing mechanical challenges

    19:55 Dealership service concerns

    26:33 Replacing a deformed metal line

    28:52 Carrying on the industry's legacy

    34:24 Importance of business education

    42:42 Dealing with repair mishaps

    46:03 Discussing lawsuit strategy and repairs

    49:57 Used car ADAS diagnostic work

    58:46 Maryland ADAS certification debate

    01:00:51 Discussing automotive repair regulations

    01:08:25 Engaging shops beyond North Carolina

    01:10:31 Staying focused on future goals

    1 hr 11 min
  5. Episode 289 - Rich Fasulo aka Check Engine Chuck Talks Shop Failure to Mobile & Social Media Success

    Episode 289

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, the conversation focused on Rich Fasulo's career journey, also known as Check Engine Chuck, as he shared his path from mobile diagnostics to shop ownership and back. One concept discussed was the importance of charging appropriately for diagnostic and repair work, with a strong emphasis on valuing your time and not giving away discounts out of pocket. A key theme that emerged was the struggle to balance caring for customers with running a profitable, sustainable business—highlighting how industry integrity depends on both technical skill and smart business decisions.

    00:00 Choosing between shop and mobile business

    06:56 Failing van inspection in New York

    08:19 Fixing my car with a friend

    11:42 Fixing a wheel balance issue

    14:25 Learning from Scannerdanner videos

    19:54 Writing detailed explanations for claims

    23:37 Ensuring quality and reputation

    25:38 Frustration with lack of effort

    27:23 Frustration with tech industry's focus

    30:26 Reflecting on past business failures

    35:51 Explaining billing to customers

    38:59 Realizing a Habitual Pattern

    42:03 Learning from industry peers

    44:34 Sharing videos for personal reasons

    48:38 Diagnosing and strategizing module repairs

    51:47 Troubleshooting a no-crank issue

    53:37 Bringing in more mechanical vendors

    55 min
  6. Episode 288 - Transitioning from Finance to the Garage with Lance Lupi of Lee Myles Auto Care

    Episode 288

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, the conversation focused on transitions into shop ownership, the challenges of maintaining industry standards, and planning for long-term success. The discussion explored how entering the automotive industry from a corporate background can offer a unique advantage, especially in management and process implementation. A key theme was the importance of building a strong shop culture rooted in quality and integrity, even when customer awareness often hinges more on convenience than craftsmanship. Lastly, several points highlighted the need to prepare exit strategies and succession plans early, ensuring shop owners are ready for both expected and unexpected changes in their business journeys.

    00:00 Airport confusion during an emergency

    05:04 Visiting the 9/11 Memorial Museum

    07:52 The importance of personal artifacts

    13:07 Struggles with delegation in auto shops

    16:44 Starting coaching with confidence

    17:18 Embracing Change to Drive Growth

    21:54 Father-in-law's car passion

    26:27 Long-term planning for business owners

    28:20 Learning about health savings accounts

    33:01 Attending a life-changing class

    36:53 Working in car parts sales

    38:18 Realizing customers don't notice quality

    43:06 Proper car wheel maintenance

    45:12 Ensuring job tasks are completed

    49:19 Discussing shop culture impact

    53:38 Workplace culture and technician skills

    57:05 Values and integrity in coaching

    58:52 Building a supportive team

    1 hr 1 min
  7. Episode 287 - Overcoming Rust Belt Challenges With Colin Thielman

    Episode 287

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, Lucas Underwood and David Roman are joined by Colin Thielman, owner of Thielman's Auto Repair in Pemberton, New Jersey. Colin shares his journey from running a busy home-based garage to opening a dedicated shop, emphasizing the steep learning curve and the importance of building out documentation and management systems. The conversation also covers adapting to new automotive technologies and the need for continuous training, as well as the crucial role of detailed financial tracking in scaling a business.

    00:00 Facing tough feedback and growth

    03:43 Managing workflow and staying busy

    09:25 Checking vehicle calibration needs

    12:39 Discussing insurance coverage options

    13:55 Insurance issues with car lifts

    19:14 Adjusting labor rates

    21:11 Analyzing car sales and costs

    24:42 Prius ABS module recall

    27:04 Discussing client concerns and liabilities

    29:23 Diagnosing car start issues

    35:31 Planning for retirement

    36:49 Discussing a faulty Chevy Avalanche

    39:47 Documenting vehicle condition with photos

    42:39 Hershey management training advice

    45:24 Training a New Employee

    51:10 Getting into diesel truck repair

    51:43 Balancing finances for survival

    53 min
  8. Bonus Episode - Navigating Trade Shows and AI Hype with Cavan Robinson & Tony Mercury Bonus

    Episode 286

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Cavan Robinson and Tony Mercury of Vehlo from STX 2026. Cavan and Tony explore the evolving trade show landscape, discussing how rising costs and market saturation have changed their approach to event participation. They also dive into the growing influence of AI in the industry, highlighting both the opportunities and challenges it brings to shop management and marketing.

    00:00 Evaluating trade show expenses

    10:25 Finding the right trade show staff

    14:31 Attending the Northeast Show and Milwaukee Event

    17:37 Improving event attendance strategies

    25:47 Issues with recurring trade shows

    30:12 Questioning Technical Training Value

    35:21 Lunch with Margaret discussing retirement

    38:42 Advice for growing your business

    46:56 AI's impact on SEO strategies

    53:41 Managing AI Data and Partnerships

    57:36 Using GuestX for call issues

    01:00:29 Catfish leads to divorce

    1 hr 5 min
  9. Episode 286 - Building a Mobile Auto Shop With A Full-Time Job with Jim Montagner

    Episode 286

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, Jim Montagner, a traveling GM world-class tech and owner of Valley Motor Auto and Truck, shares his unconventional entry into the automotive industry, beginning as a Vo-Tech student and eventually moving from independent shops to dealerships. Jim details the challenges of transitioning to mobile diagnostics, emphasizing the importance of sound business practices, such as bookkeeping and proper pricing, to sustain and eventually grow his business. The conversation explores the necessity of ongoing education in both technical skills and business management, highlighting the critical balance between delivering quality repairs and ensuring business profitability.

    00:00 Choosing a career path

    06:27 Discussing the cost of living

    06:56 Finding inspiration from others

    10:44 Expanding from diesel to general repairs

    15:28 Customer perceptions of mobile repair costs

    18:39 Talking to shop owners

    20:10 Pricing strategy challenges

    25:04 Unqualified mechanics hurting reputation

    28:38 Managing inconsistent work hours

    31:56 Navigating business start-up challenges

    33:27 Check Engine Chuck's viral success

    36:58 Finding first big job by chance

    41:49 Pricing for profitability in auto shops

    45:30 Learning ECM and EEPROM Programming

    48:39 Vacation scheduling challenges

    49:26 Making weekend plans

    55:33 Understanding Business Profit Margins

    57:27 Reading business books for success

    59:39 Planning future recording session

    1 hr
  10. Episode 285 - Bad Reviews Can Lead To Better Practices With Brett Hunziker

    Episode 285

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, the conversation focused on real-world challenges faced by shop owners and technicians, including the complexities of managing customer expectations and navigating negative reviews. One concept discussed was the need for transparent diagnostic processes and detailed communication, especially when customers question pricing or feel they already know the issue with their vehicles. A key theme that emerged was the importance of accurate shop management—covering everything from parts inventory to internal controls in software like Shop-Ware—to ensure profitability and reduce clerical errors.

    00:00 Out-of-province vehicle inspections

    06:53 Florida driver's license language law

    15:54 Construction mistake with leaning structure

    16:42 Visiting the 9/11 Memorial Museum

    23:08 Challenges of Replacing Headlights

    27:58 Car repair frustration and miscommunication

    32:35 Discussing diagnostic trouble codes

    37:32 Introducing Whisperflow for Note-Taking

    47:24 Customer dissatisfaction with tire pricing

    50:29 Dealer pricing and customer experiences

    56:11 Adjusting labor rates and pay structure

    01:01:02 Evaluating Business Efficiency and Labor

    01:09:15 Old machinist's inventory strategy

    01:09:52 Buying and selling steel

    1 hr 11 min
  11. Episode 284 - Managing Stress and Leading a Young Team in the Automotive Industry With Trey Holley

    Episode 284

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Trey Holley, a shop owner from Thomaston, Georgia. Trey shares his journey from being a lifelong mechanic to learning the ropes of business ownership, highlighting the unique challenges faced in small Southern towns. The conversation touches on the importance of supporting fellow shop owners rather than viewing them purely as competitors, and Trey offers insight into the work-life balance struggles that led him to prioritize both his health and the building of a strong, supportive team.

    00:00 Atlanta airport's massive scale

    03:41 Long walks at airports

    06:27 Thunder Valley racetrack experience

    10:30 Southern business challenges with generosity

    13:29 Overwhelmed by business demands

    19:09 New guy in town setting up

    20:59 University town business challenges

    22:34 Building Industry Relationships

    26:46 Discussing business challenges with spouse

    31:14 Discussing labor cost strategy

    35:32 Quality control and final checks

    38:55 Balancing work and family time

    40:33 Dealing with family anxiety

    44:57 Balancing multiple responsibilities

    47:21 Discovering the Enneagram for Communication

    49:12 On choosing the right people

    50 min
  12. Episode 283 - Revamping Trade Shows While Building Industry Community with Tonnika Haynes

    Episode 283

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Tonnika Haynes. Tonnika shares her experiences navigating trade shows like Vision and ASTA, highlighting the challenges of scaling events while maintaining their community feel. The conversation touches on the struggle to balance profitable training with meaningful content for shop owners. They also discuss the importance of grassroots networking and accountability within industry associations, emphasizing the need to evolve while remembering what made previous events special.

    00:00 Trade show insights and takeaways

    04:45 Struggling to secure instructors

    09:25 Improving trade show quality

    11:08 Evaluating training investment costs

    15:18 Investing in employee training

    18:21 Challenges in Automotive Training

    22:41 Getting great deals at the show

    23:30 Boosting vendor sales at trade shows

    27:40 Considering a move to a convention center

    30:58 Regional networking events in Asheville

    35:07 Adjusting content for wider appeal

    37:22 Demand for hands-on Tesla class

    41:53 Early board experiences discussed

    42:36 Addressing organizational dysfunction

    46:57 Launching the new podcast

    52:03 Discussing video production deadlines

    53:03 Braxton starting a media company

    56:04 Introducing the next topic

    56 min
  13. Bonus Episode - Emily Oliver On Keeping It in the Family While Facing Challenges and Growth at a Small Auto Shop Bonus

    Episode 282

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, Emily Oliver joins the podcast to share her journey of taking over a small family auto repair shop in Gloucester, Massachusetts. Emily talks about the challenges of modernizing operations, from adopting new software like Shop-Ware to implementing more thorough documentation and communication processes with customers. The conversation also highlights the complexities of hourly billing in auto repair, the challenges of managing family roles in business, and the importance of continuous learning and adaptation as the shop grows.

    00:00 Family auto shop's history

    08:56 Simple billing system explained

    10:55 Tracking time in auto repair bays

    19:04 Standardizing Inspection Processes

    23:10 Issues with technician pricing

    30:07 Convincing family about car maintenance

    36:33 Communicating with customers

    39:47 Dealing with other mechanics' issues

    46:27 Early challenges and learning curve

    54:21 Managing finances and staying focused

    56:10 Discussing parts pricing strategy

    01:01:21 Gaining insights from peer feedback

    1 hr 3 min
  14. Episode 282 - AI, Recruiting, Shop Culture, and the Drive for Better Hires with Promotive

    Episode 282

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, Lucas Underwood and David Roman are joined by Sam Freeman, Alexandra Pare, and Daniel Ekstrand from Promotive. The group demos “Paige,” Promotive’s AI-powered virtual recruiter, showcasing how AI is transforming the hiring and prescreening process in the automotive industry. The conversation dives into current industry trends, including why technicians are leaving dealerships for independent shops and the top reasons candidates are looking for new positions. They also get candid about the frustrations of online reviews, sharing stories and strategies shop owners use to respond to feedback—both good and bad.

    00:00 Overview of Promotive's Services

    11:55 Managing morning priority calls

    15:43 Handling Language and Mumbling Issues

    18:44 Automated messaging for applicants

    27:21 Icy disaster during bachelor party

    32:58 Early adoption of Facebook and DVI

    37:41 Missed email confusion

    42:59 Hotel room negotiation challenge

    44:38 A quick conference trip

    52:30 Challenges of running a car shop

    59:36 Trying the Worst BBQ in KC

    01:03:25 Handling negative feedback

    01:07:19 Feedback on Uber improvements

    1 hr 9 min
  15. Episode 281 - Tackling Mental Health and Generational Challenges in Automotive Shops

    Episode 281

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, the conversation focused on the realities of technician mental health in the automotive industry. Several points were raised, including the lack of resources and support for young technicians, the stigma among men around discussing feelings and seeking help, and the crucial role that perspective and mentorship play in navigating workplace stress.

    00:00 Wearing outfits for a photo

    06:15 Hiring someone with unusual past jobs

    08:04 Sourcing clean, pure meth

    12:49 Understanding indica and sativa effects

    14:40 Dealing with smoke smell in cars

    19:36 Dealing with unresolved personal issues

    20:24 Helping employee with health issues

    26:30 Defining happiness with Rick White

    28:45 Learning about cars before the internet

    33:08 Understanding Mental Health Challenges

    34:07 Tech industry mentorship challenges

    39:51 Judging parents and kids' behavior

    41:10 Childhood playground altercation

    46:38 Being transparent about business struggles

    47:59 George's life-changing discovery

    52:51 Understanding the need for help

    53:57 Managing negative thoughts

    57:11 Discussing consequences of inaction

    58 min
  16. Episode 280 - Forgiveness, Mentorship, and Saving Lives in Shops With Tyler Steever

    Episode 280

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, Lucas Underwood and David Roman are joined by Tyler Steever, a technician from Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Tyler Steever shares his path into the industry, highlighting how mentorship and hands-on learning shaped his career. The conversation delves into the importance of good shop culture and personal development, with Tyler Steever emphasizing the impact of teaching others and building supportive relationships. The episode also addresses mental health in the industry, as Tyler Steever openly discusses his personal struggles and the need to break the stigma around seeking help.

    00:00 Getting into vehicle repair

    05:03 Team cattle sorting challenge

    06:51 Learning from a mentor

    10:02 Rodeo scene and local issues

    12:59 Changing jobs in the auto industry

    16:34 Teaching horse training clinics

    21:28 Reflecting on family and self-worth

    23:33 Marriage as a lifelong commitment

    26:01 Communication in Marriage

    30:32 Warren Buffett's best advice

    32:21 Struggling with mental health at school

    36:21 Growing up with a religious dad

    40:39 Technician's unexpected promotion story

    41:51 Quitting a job rashly

    46:39 Sharing personal goals and vision

    49:38 Dog comforts during a breakdown

    52:10 Discussing family and Ziploc bags

    56:10 Spreading awareness and support

    56 min
  17. Episode 279 - The Real Coach Alex On Fixing Industry Communication and Shop Management

    Episode 279

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, the conversation centers around Alex DeSantis's journey from working in auto repair shops to becoming a coach for auto shop owners. The discussion explored the importance of clear communication and establishing standard operating procedures in the industry, highlighting how many shops still struggle with basics like proper onboarding and workflow organization. Several points were raised, including the value of sharing business data transparently with employees, practical benefits shop owners can offer beyond health insurance, and the crucial role of teaching both technical and communication skills to the next generation of technicians.

    00:00 Empowered Advisor journey

    06:17 Starting part-time coaching with Rena

    08:31 Getting business coaching advice

    13:29 Neglecting business investments and maintenance

    15:56 Discussing employee benefits options

    18:31 Complaints about AI-generated content

    23:05 Frustrations with shop inefficiency

    26:59 Improving communication with clients

    29:30 Changing Views on Trade Education

    31:18 Future-proofing with human expertise

    34:42 Dealer advisor training issues

    38:44 Encounter with silent shopkeepers

    42:45 Office space changes

    47:17 Talking about the mysterious fire

    49:55 Local tales and warnings

    53:04 Getting pitched SEO on podcasts

    55:02 Preparing for 2027 expansion

    56 min
  18. Episode 278 - Can You Create A Disney World Experiences in Auto Repair With Bret Beitler

    Episode 278

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, David & Lucas are joined by Brett Beitler to discuss the challenges and rewards of leadership in both family entertainment centers and the auto repair industry. Brett shares his experience in turning around struggling businesses, highlighting the importance of strong leadership, employee empowerment, and cultivating a culture of unreasonable hospitality. The conversation also explores the differences in leadership needs between industries, emphasizing the value of coaching, communication, and continuous personal growth for business success.

    00:00 Setting up automatic audio switching

    09:40 Inspiration to join preschool industry

    10:28 Expanding business in Houston

    16:37 Forming a Leadership Partnership

    23:16 Improving airport bathroom satisfaction

    27:04 Issues with Accountant and Bookkeeping

    35:00 Dealing with customer feedback

    40:18 Finding the Right Coaching Clients

    43:05 Practicing effective leadership skills

    53:33 Teaching Leadership to the Next Generation

    58:29 Empowerment in the Workplace

    01:01:37 Keeping up with rapid tech changes

    59 min
  19. Episode 277 - Building Better Workflows and Navigating AI With Ash Kaplan of Golden Hour Garage

    Episode 277

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Ash Kaplan, owner of Golden Hour Garage. Ash shares her journey growing up in the automotive industry, how she built her niche helping struggling shops streamline workflow, and why process consistency is essential for shop success. The conversation also explores the impact of AI and automation in automotive repair, emphasizing the ongoing need for human expertise and genuine customer relationships.

    00:00 Visual calendar time zone issue

    10:32 Building workflows for struggling shops

    12:27 Finding a solution for consistency

    17:50 Explaining the company name

    25:15 Documenting a car recall dispute

    30:36 Employee motivation and compensation issues

    32:59 Overcoming belief in others

    39:15 Lessons on gullibility from father

    47:26 Weekly and Quarterly Accountability Meetings

    52:34 Building internal talent for growth

    56:56 Discussing AI sustainability issues

    59:31 AI's Impact on Job Markets

    01:07:20 AI in automotive service shops

    1 hr 4 min
  20. Episode 276 - Navigating Apprenticeships With Angela Mitchell & Shop-Ware Scholarship Winner Kaitlyn Schave

    Episode 276

    Show notes

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability

    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!

    In this episode, the conversation focused on the experiences of an apprentice technician who won the Shop-Ware scholarship. One concept discussed was the importance of standardized processes in the shop to ensure consistent work quality and reduce customer complaints. A key theme that emerged was the value of mentorship and hands-on learning, with support from experienced technicians helping apprentices gain skills and confidence. The discussion explored how exploring diverse training resources, including online courses and technical classes, can accelerate professional growth for new technicians.

    00:00 Brake pad inconsistencies and complaints

    05:44 Cleaning caliper brackets

    16:24 Bringing Kaitlyn on board

    17:54 Training and skill progression

    27:40 Learning electrical diagnostics skills

    31:43 Talking about tough car repairs

    33:59 Discussing employee pay incentives

    42:57 Choosing the right conference sessions

    48:07 Learning diagnostics through videos

    52:21 Testing car battery voltage

    58:50 Dealing with difficult customers

    1 hr 1 min

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