CoinDesk Podcast Network

DPRK denies it was behind the $6.4B Binance hack.

Kim Yo Jong, sister of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, denied the FBI's claim that Pyongyang's TraderTraitor group was behind the $6.4 billion Binance hack, calling it a political attack. But analytics firm Elliptic says the on-chain evidence backs the attribution. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

- This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. -

This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

On this episode of CoinDesk’s Public Keys from the New York Stock Exchange, Jennifer Sanasie is joined by co-host Tim Grant, Co-Founder and CEO of TensorX, as crypto reckons with the largest hack in its history.

Ari Redbord, Global Head of Policy at TRM Labs, breaks down the roughly $6.4 billion drained from Binance across 10 blockchains and what it means for exchange security.

Rich Widmann, Director of Digital Assets Strategy at Google Cloud, explains the newly unveiled Google Multi-Party Compute custody system, and whether it could have stopped the Binance breach.

Plus, Tim Grant unpacks TensorX’s push into sovereign AI compute, the rise of “neoclouds,” and the leverage risks hanging over the GPU buildout.

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Chapters:

00:00 Welcome to Public Keys

00:32 Morgan Stanley Downgrades Coinbase to $120

02:26 Binance Hit by Crypto's Largest Hack

02:53 TRM Labs' Ari Redbord on the $6.4B Heist

03:32 "The Largest Bank Robbery in Human History"

05:33 Midterms, GENIUS and CLARITY in Focus

08:41 How the Breach Happened and Hardening Cyber

11:58 Bitcoin and Ethereum ETFs See Outflows

12:55 Tim Grant on Flows and Institutional Risk

16:47 Private Keys, Crypto's Weak Point

17:15 Google's Rich Widmann on Multi-Party Compute

21:30 The Quantum and AI Threat to Custody

23:51 Could MPC Have Stopped the Binance Hack?

27:25 Tim Grant on TensorX and Sovereign AI

32:45 GPUs, Neoclouds and the CoreWeave Risk

More than $6B left Binance after record hack/

More than $6 billion in crypto flowed out of Binance-linked wallets in the first 24 hours after the exchange reopened withdrawals, following a record hack that stole roughly $6.3 billion. Rival exchanges OKX and Bybit absorbed hundreds of millions in the shuffle. CoinDesk’s Jennifer Sanasie hosts “CoinDesk Daily.”

- This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. -

This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

The NBA enters prediction markets.

The NBA signed a data-sharing deal with the CFTC and named Kalshi and Polymarket as preferred exchanges, formally stepping into prediction markets. The move puts the league at odds with the NFL, which has sided with states fighting to regulate the sector. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

- This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - Digital asset vaults are growing rapidly, but understanding the risks behind them requires more than on-chain data. S&P Global Ratings' Vault Risk Assessment (VRA) delivers independent, forward-looking insight into vault credit quality, governance, and risk management, helping bring institutional-grade risk transparency to digital asset markets. Learn more at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/vault-risk-assessments. -

This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

SpaceX raised $40B to buy GPUs.

Elon Musk's SpaceX raised $40 billion in debt to buy GPUs, but he warned that debt markets have almost entirely cut off financing for companies without revenue independent of AI data centers. He predicts most of the 200-plus "neoclouds" will not survive. CoinDesk's Uyen Truong hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

- This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - Digital asset vaults are growing rapidly, but understanding the risks behind them requires more than on-chain data. S&P Global Ratings' Vault Risk Assessment (VRA) delivers independent, forward-looking insight into vault credit quality, governance, and risk management, helping bring institutional-grade risk transparency to digital asset markets. Learn more at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/vault-risk-assessments. -

This episode was hosted by Uyen Truong. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

Venice.ai founder Erik Voorhees sits down with CoinDesk’s Jennifer Sanasie ahead of the Lumara Film Festival to explore the fast-growing world of AI filmmaking. He says video generation has grown to about 30% of Venice’s usage since the company launched its video studio this spring, and that creators can now make a full movie with roughly $10,000 in AI credits. He also previews the festival’s roughly 750 submissions, most of them from amateur filmmakers, and predicts how AI could transform filmmaking by 2030.

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Timecodes:

00:00 - http://venice.ai’s Erik Voorhees Joins CoinDesk Spotlight

01:45 - Venice.ai: A Private, Uncensored ChatGPT

02:18 - How Video Grew to 30% of Venice’s Usage

03:33 - Why Privacy Should Be the Default

05:11 - What Creators Really Want

08:14 - Inside the Lumara Film Festival

12:18 - What AI Filmmaking Looks Like in 2030

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This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com [http://grayscale.com].

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Digital asset vaults are growing rapidly, but understanding the risks behind them requires more than on-chain data. S&P Global Ratings' Vault Risk Assessment (VRA) delivers independent, forward-looking insight into vault credit quality, governance, and risk management, helping bring institutional-grade risk transparency to digital asset markets. Learn more at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/vault-risk-assessments.

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Read CoinDesk Research's report on the future of equity ownership and the issuer-sponsored platform Bullish and Equiniti are building: https://www.coindesk.com/research/the-future-of-equity-ownership-an-issuer-s-guide-to-tokenized-equities

Polymarket fires CMO.

Polymarket fired chief marketing officer Matthew Modabber, a close friend of CEO Shayne Coplan, after an internal probe into several episodes, including a reported fake-trades scheme. The board reportedly concluded he was slowing the company's push toward a possible IPO. CoinDesk's Uyen Truong hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

- This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - Digital asset vaults are growing rapidly, but understanding the risks behind them requires more than on-chain data. S&P Global Ratings' Vault Risk Assessment (VRA) delivers independent, forward-looking insight into vault credit quality, governance, and risk management, helping bring institutional-grade risk transparency to digital asset markets. Learn more at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/vault-risk-assessments. -

This episode was hosted by Uyen Truong. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

CoinDesk’s The Policy Protocol hosts Rebecca Rettig and Renato Mariotti open on the OCC finalizing its stablecoin rules and dig into the OKXICE filing that showed a growing pile of blue-chip objections to tokenized equities.

They’re then joined by Zero Knowledge founder and CEO Austin Campbell, who breaks down JPMorgan’s JPMD deposit token landing on Ethereum, and argue that crypto becoming “plumbing” is a sign it won. Austin also delivers his most controversial take: it is mathematically impossible for stablecoins to cause bank deposit flight.

Plus, Rebecca and Renato name a16z Crypto, newly renamed a16z Frontier by Chris Dixon, as their Person of the Week.

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This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com.

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Digital asset vaults are growing rapidly, but understanding the risks behind them requires more than on-chain data. S&P Global Ratings' Vault Risk Assessment (VRA) delivers independent, forward-looking insight into vault credit quality, governance, and risk management, helping bring institutional-grade risk transparency to digital asset markets. Learn more at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/vault-risk-assessments.

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Check out CoinDesk Research's report, commissioned by RealFi, on real-world yield in productive stablecoins, at https://www.coindesk.com/research/beyond-the-risk-free-rate-diversified-real-world-yield-in-productive-stablecoins

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Chapters/Timecodes:

00:00 Welcome to The Policy Protocol

01:44 A Nonstop Stretch for Crypto Policy

02:23 OCC Finalizes Its Stablecoin Rules

05:29 The TSV Land Rush and Tokenized-Equity Objections

08:54 JPMorgan's JPMD Deposit Token on Ethereum

12:07 Did Anyone Win the Stablecoin Yield Fight?

13:28 Tokenized Deposits and SoFi's FDIC Play

15:45 Is Crypto Just Plumbing Now?

17:05 Hot Take: Stablecoins Can't Cause Deposit Flight

19:52 Person of the Week: a16z Crypto

China to seize 618,00 BTC in fraud case.

Chinese prosecutors are moving to confiscate more than 61,800 bitcoin linked to an alleged $5.7 billion wealth-management fraud run by Qian Zhimin. The coins, seized in the UK after he fled China, could be worth far more today than when they were taken. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

- This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - Digital asset vaults are growing rapidly, but understanding the risks behind them requires more than on-chain data. S&P Global Ratings' Vault Risk Assessment (VRA) delivers independent, forward-looking insight into vault credit quality, governance, and risk management, helping bring institutional-grade risk transparency to digital asset markets. Learn more at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/vault-risk-assessments. -

This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

Alex Gluchowski, CEO and co-founder of Matter Labs, joins CoinDesk’s Jennifer Sanasie on Markets Outlook to unpack Prividium Commander, the company’s new product built to take digital assets from pilots to revenue. Gluchowski explains why operational friction, not technology, keeps institutions from moving digital asset experiments into production, and how Commander gives banks one control plane to run digital asset services under their own rules.

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This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at http://grayscale.com.

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Digital asset vaults are growing rapidly, but understanding the risks behind them requires more than on-chain data. S&P Global Ratings' Vault Risk Assessment (VRA) delivers independent, forward-looking insight into vault credit quality, governance, and risk management, helping bring institutional-grade risk transparency to digital asset markets. Learn more at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/vault-risk-assessments.

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Timecodes:

00:00 - Matter Labs’ Alex Gluchowski Joins Markets Outlook

01:40 - What Is Prividium Commander?

02:03 - Why Bank Blockchain Pilots Stall Before Production

04:30 - What Happens When Banks Build Their Own Plumbing

05:34 - How Cari Network Is Bringing 30 Banks to Tokenized Deposits

06:48 - The Path From Commander to ZK

09:06 - What Institutions Want From ZK Privacy

10:52 - Can Blockchains Handle Bank-Level Volume?

12:04 - Matter Labs’ Vision for a Global Digital Asset Economy

What a potential SpaceX-Tesla merger means for their BTC bags.

Elon Musk said SpaceX and Tesla are exploring a merger that would combine the two companies and their more than 30,000 bitcoin. Both have formed special committees to weigh the deal, though Musk says he can't take part because of his stakes in each. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

- This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - Digital asset vaults are growing rapidly, but understanding the risks behind them requires more than on-chain data. S&P Global Ratings' Vault Risk Assessment (VRA) delivers independent, forward-looking insight into vault credit quality, governance, and risk management, helping bring institutional-grade risk transparency to digital asset markets. Learn more at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/vault-risk-assessments. -

This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

JPMorgan expects BTC to outperform U.S. stocks, bonds and gold in the next decade.

JPMorgan now expects bitcoin to outperform U.S. stocks, bonds and gold over the next 10 years, forecasting a 10% annualized base case. It's the first time the bank has put a range on bitcoin returns — a notable shift for a firm whose CEO once called it a "fraud." CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

- This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - Digital asset vaults are growing rapidly, but understanding the risks behind them requires more than on-chain data. S&P Global Ratings' Vault Risk Assessment (VRA) delivers independent, forward-looking insight into vault credit quality, governance, and risk management, helping bring institutional-grade risk transparency to digital asset markets. Learn more at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/vault-risk-assessments. -

This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

S&P Global Ratings Managing Director and Digital Assets Analytical Lead Andrew O’Neill joins CoinDesk’s Jennifer Sanasie to unpack the firm’s new Vault Risk Assessment (VRA). He explains how onchain lending vaults work, why transparency isn’t the same as understanding risk, and how the VRA looks at a vault’s portfolio, liquidity, curator, operational security and governance. Plus, how the VRA differs from a credit rating, how vaults could fuel a liquidity flywheel for onchain finance, and what agentic AI could mean for the pace of risk in financial markets.

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Digital asset vaults are growing rapidly, but understanding the risks behind them requires more than on-chain data. S&P Global Ratings' Vault Risk Assessment (VRA) delivers independent, forward-looking insight into vault credit quality, governance, and risk management, helping bring institutional-grade risk transparency to digital asset markets.

Learn more at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/vault-risk-assessments.

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Timecodes:

00:00 - S&P Global Ratings’ Andrew O’Neill Joins CoinDesk

02:00 - What Is a DeFi Lending Vault?

03:09 - How S&P Global Ratings Evaluates Vault Risk

05:14 - Is the VRA a Credit Rating?

07:07 - Why S&P Global Ratings Is Focusing on Vaults Now

08:25 - The Biggest Gaps in Onchain Finance

09:26 - S&P Global Ratings’ Vision for Tokenized Finance

11:08 - Agentic AI and the New Pace of Risk

On this episode of CoinDesk’s Public Keys from the New York Stock Exchange, host Jennifer Sanasie is joined by Peter Christiansen, Director of Digital Assets Equity Research at Citi, who explains why the bank is turning more bullish on crypto equities ahead of Q3 earnings — breaking down its upgrades of Galaxy and Gemini, its downgrade of Securitize, the MSCI index-exclusion threat facing Strategy, and why Circle is his top pick with a $243 target.

Plus, Bart Smith, CEO of Avalanche Treasury Co. (AVAT), makes the case that Wall Street’s tokenization push will land on Avalanche, and explains why a regulated permanent-capital vehicle offers investors different exposure than spot AVAX or an ETF — and why he sees bitcoin maturing into digital gold.

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Chapters/Timecodes:

00:00 Welcome to Public Keys

00:21 Citi Turns Bullish on Crypto Equities

00:45 Citi's Pete Christiansen on the Infrastructure Trade

02:23 Why Citi Downgraded Securitize

03:47 What to Watch: NYSE, Nasdaq and DTCC Tokenized Trading

05:00 Collateral Mobility, Tokenization's Real Use Case

05:57 Strategy and the MSCI Index-Exclusion Threat

07:50 Citi's Bull, Bear and Base Case for MSTR

08:59 Bitcoin and Ether ETF Outflows Meet the Macro Backdrop

10:27 Why Circle Is Citi's Top Pick, $243 Target

13:36 Avalanche Treasury's Bart Smith Joins

13:43 The Bull, Bear and Base Case for Avalanche

15:18 How Avalanche Differentiates: Custom L1s

16:16 Why AVAT Over Spot AVAX or an ETF

19:32 The Tokenization-ETF Parallel

20:54 Tokenization Is Crypto Minus the Baggage

22:16 Why Bitcoin Is Now Digital Gold

JPMorgan takes JPM Coin to Ethereum.

JPMorgan is expanding its JPM Coin beyond Coinbase's Base network to Ethereum, citing the blockchain's deeper liquidity and institutional user base. The largest U.S. bank already moves more than $7 billion a day on its private Kinexys network. CoinDesk's Uyen Truong hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

- This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - Digital asset vaults are growing rapidly, but understanding the risks behind them requires more than on-chain data. S&P Global Ratings' Vault Risk Assessment (VRA) delivers independent, forward-looking insight into vault credit quality, governance, and risk management, helping bring institutional-grade risk transparency to digital asset markets. Learn more at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/vault-risk-assessments. -

This episode was hosted by Uyen Truong. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

Tesla Roadster unveiling lifts tokenized TSLA.

Elon Musk unveiled a flying version of the Tesla Roadster, and with U.S. stock markets closed, traders piled into Hyperliquid's TSLA perpetual, sending hourly volume up roughly 1,580%. It's a sign of how round-the-clock crypto markets are becoming the first place investors react to news about traditional companies. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

- This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - Digital asset vaults are growing rapidly, but understanding the risks behind them requires more than on-chain data. S&P Global Ratings' Vault Risk Assessment (VRA) delivers independent, forward-looking insight into vault credit quality, governance, and risk management, helping bring institutional-grade risk transparency to digital asset markets. Learn more at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/vault-risk-assessments. -

This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

CoinDesk’s The Policy Protocol hosts Rebecca Rettig and Renato Mariotti open on two hot topics: the CFTC’s interim final rule carving casino-style gambling out of the “swap” definition and the OCC’s “bombshell” report finding that America’s largest banks systematically debanked lawful businesses, based on a review of over 100,000 complaints from 2020–2025.

Then they sit down with Michael Passalacqua, Senior Advisor to CFTC Chair Mike Selig and head of the agency’s Innovation Task Force, who walks through the Reg CM proposal creating a federal opt-in framework for retail crypto exchanges that offer leverage, previews the October 28th Frontier Forum on “super intelligence” and the thorny liability questions around agentic finance. Plus, Passalacqua lays out why he’s most excited about operationalizing the CFTC’s post-CLARITY rulemaking roadmap over the next six to twelve months.

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This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com.

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Digital asset vaults are growing rapidly, but understanding the risks behind them requires more than on-chain data. S&P Global Ratings' Vault Risk Assessment (VRA) delivers independent, forward-looking insight into vault credit quality, governance, and risk management, helping bring institutional-grade risk transparency to digital asset markets. Learn more at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/vault-risk-assessments.

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Learn more about CoinDesk Data & Indices at coindesk.com/institutions.

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Chapters/Timecodes:

00:00 Welcome to The Policy Protocol

01:54 Renato at the Chicago Fed Payments Symposium

02:19 Hot Topic: CFTC Says Sportsbook Bets Aren't Swaps

03:51 Hot Topic: The OCC Debanking 'Bombshell' Report

06:02 Michael Passalacqua of the CFTC Joins

06:44 Reg CM: A Federal Path for Crypto Exchanges

10:24 Inside the CFTC Innovation Task Force

10:56 Super Intelligence and the Frontier Forum

12:04 The Phantom No-Action Letter and Industry-Wide IB Relief

14:47 Agentic Finance and Autonomous Trading

16:20 Defining 'Onchain Finance'

16:45 The Post-CLARITY Rulemaking Roadmap

RealFi Chief Business Officer Seny Orlov joins CoinDesk’s Jennifer Sanasie to break down the protocol’s Cardano mainnet launch, which followed a public testnet with more than 3,000 verified wallets. He explains how staked USDr earns yield from real-world assets and why that portfolio is producing an annualized yield of over 12% right now. Orlov also covers why family offices and trading firms want a dollar that’s both durable and usable in DeFi, describes integrations with SundaeSwap and Strike Finance, and outlines the Ethereum mainnet launch planned for next month.

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Timecodes:

00:00 - RealFi’s Seny Orlov Joins CoinDesk

01:04 - Inside RealFi’s Cardano Mainnet Launch

02:40 - How USDr and sUSDr Work

04:06 - Where the 12% Yield Comes From

05:43 - Why Institutions Want Yield-Bearing Stablecoins

07:35 - Building Out RealFi’s Cardano DeFi Ecosystem

09:11 - What the Ethereum Mainnet Launch Unlocks

11:08 - What Will Drive Institutions to DeFi

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Juan Otero, CEO of Travala, joins CoinDesk’s Jennifer Sanasie on Markets Outlook to explain how the company’s new AI travel agent lets you book any of 2.2 million hotels in more than 230 countries just by chatting. Otero walks through how Travala uses BNB Chain’s machine payment protocol for gasless transactions and Binance Pay for settlement. Plus, he lays out the bigger plan: a future where agents anywhere can book hotels, flights, activities and car rentals on crypto rails.

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This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at http://grayscale.com.

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Digital asset vaults are growing rapidly, but understanding the risks behind them requires more than on-chain data. S&P Global Ratings' Vault Risk Assessment (VRA) delivers independent, forward-looking insight into vault credit quality, governance, and risk management, helping bring institutional-grade risk transparency to digital asset markets. Learn more at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/vault-risk-assessments.

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Learn more about CoinDesk Data & Indices at http://coindesk.com/institutions.

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Timecodes:

00:00 - Travala’s Juan Otero Joins Markets Outlook

01:51 - Travala’s AI Travel Agent

02:25 - How AI Agents Pay With BNB Chain’s Machine Payment Protocol

03:16 - Why BNB Chain and Binance Pay?

04:17 - Booking a Hotel by Chatting With an Agent

07:05 - Can You Trust an AI Agent With Your Wallet?

08:00 - Crypto Rewards vs. Credit Card Points

09:29 - Who Is Travala’s AI Agent For?

11:12 - The Future of Agentic Travel on Crypto Rails

Larry Finks warns the data center halt would lead to a recession.

BlackRock CEO Larry Fink says halting the U.S. data center buildout would tip the economy into recession, pointing to the trillions in AI capital spending now driving growth. He also flagged a national debt that has climbed from $8 trillion in 2000 to $40 trillion today. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com.

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Digital markets move fast. Move forward with clarity from S&P Global Ratings’ risk analysis spanning stablecoins, tokenized funds, digital bonds, DeFi protocols, and more. Explore digital asset solutions with S&P Global Ratings at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/solutions/digital-assets?utm_campaign=Global-DA-Vaults&utm_source=digital-ads&utm_medium=link&utm_content=CoinDesk1

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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.