Flow Radio

In this episode of Flow Radio, hosts Steven Kotler and Dr. Michael Mannino sit down with neuroscientist Dr. Richard Huskey to ask a deceptively simple question: what is actually happening in the brain during flow?

There's no flow neuron and no flow region. Drawing on their new NeuroImage paper and years of work in Huskey's lab, the three explore why flow isn't one part of the brain lighting up but the whole brain coordinating and breaking apart—the property neuroscientists call metastability—why frustration may be a faster route into flow than boredom, and a finding in their own data none of them can fully explain yet: in flow, the brain's global entropy goes down, not up. A conversation about how much of flow we can now measure, and how much is still a frontier.

Guest Bio:

Dr. Richard Huskey is an associate professor in the Department of Communication and the Cognitive Science Program at the University of California, Davis, and principal investigator of the Cognitive Communication Science Lab. He is affiliated with the UC Davis Center for Mind and Brain and the Center for Neuroengineering and Medicine, and serves as an associate editor at the Journal of Communication. His research combines behavioral experiments with fMRI, EEG, and computational modeling to study motivation, attention, and the neuroscience of flow. He is a longtime collaborator of the Flow Research Collective.

In This Episode:

00:00 The Brain Has No Flow Switch

02:59 How Richard Huskey Fell Into Flow Research

07:19 Does the Challenge-Skill Balance Really Cause Flow?

11:56 What Snowboarding Reveals About Getting Into Flow

23:28 Flow Is Not the Same as Peak Performance

36:21 Your Brain in Flow Works Like a Band: Metastability Explained

42:25 Why Frustration Beats Boredom as a Way Into Flow

49:25 The Entropy Finding That Still Doesn't Add Up

1:15:14 Getting Flow Research Out of the Lab and Onto the Mountain

1:26:21 Why Flow Is for Everyone

Episode Resources:

READ THE RESEARCH:

Read Fran Hancock, Richard Huskey, Steven Kotler, Michael Mannino, and colleagues' paper, "A complexity-science framework for studying flow: using media to probe brain-phenomenology dynamics," in NeuroImage (2026).

→ Read the paper here.

THE TEXTBOOK: PERFORMANCE NEUROSCIENCE

Performance Neuroscience (Springer, 2026) introduces an emerging field that studies human performance at its biological core — how large-scale brain networks, physiology, and behavior interact under pressure, fatigue, and uncertainty. Co-edited by Steven Kotler, Michael Mannino, and Marcelo Bigliassi, the volume spans brain network dynamics, stress and arousal, flow states, and AI-assisted performance. Richard Huskey contributed the chapter on flow and performance.

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Flow Research Collective was founded by Steven Kotler, one of the world’s leading experts on human peak performance. He is an award-winning journalist and author with over ten bestselling books.

In this episode of Flow Research, host Steven Kotler sits down with fellow neuroscientists Dr. Michael Mannino and Glenn Fox to unpack their viral opinion paper, "The Body Does Not Keep the Score."

Taking direct aim at popular trauma psychology, the team exposes why Bessel van der Kolk’s belief that trauma is stored in the body gets neuroscience completely wrong. They unpack how the modern "cult of trauma" hijacks genuine recovery, offering instead a ground-breaking path through systems neuroscience. Discover how predictive coding, dynamic flexibility (metastability), and flow states re-wire the brain to override trauma and unlock peak performance.

Guest Bios:

Michael Mannino, PhD

Dr. Michael Mannino is a neuroscientist, co-CEO of Syneurgy, and Chief Science Officer at Flow Research Collective. He works at the intersection of applied neuroscience, human performance science, and AI. Michael holds a PhD in neuroscience, has published research on cognition, consciousness, flow, and intuition, and brings a systems-level perspective shaped by work across academia, technology, and research institutions including NASA.

Glenn Fox, PhD

Dr. Glenn Fox is a neuroscientist at USC’s Marshall School of Business, where he directs the Foundwell Initiative studying founder mindset and performance. A former principal investigator at USC’s Smart VR Center and leader at the Performance Science Institute, his research focuses on gratitude, flow, and resilience under pressure alongside military and elite athletic organizations.

In This Episode:
00:00 The Paper That Shook Neuroscience

02:26 78,000 Views: Why "The Body Keeps the Score" Got It Wrong

04:37 Evolutionary Models & The Cult of Trauma

12:12 Re-evaluating Bessel van der Kolk’s Core Thesis

24:43 Inside the Brain: Decision-Making & Somatic Markers

35:53 Metastability & The Free Energy Principle Explained

44:07 How Flow States Re-Wire Traumatic Memory

52:43 Post-Traumatic Growth, Gratitude, and Stress Signals

59:36 The 2-to-4 Hour Protocol to Override Burnout

01:13:28 AI, Divergent Thinking, and the Missing Somatic Feedback Loop

Episode Resources:

READ THE RESEARCH:

Read Steven, Glenn, and Michael’s viral paper, "The Body Does Not Keep the Score" in Frontiers in Systems Neuroscience.

→ Read the viral paper that's challenging trauma psychology.

STEVEN’S NEW BOOK: WE ARE AS GODS

As discussed in today’s episode, our "Stone Age" brains weren't built for the modern flood of stress and AI. In "We Are as Gods", Steven Kotler and Peter Diamandis reveal how to upgrade your cognitive resilience, override victim mindsets, and harness flow states in an age of exponential tech.

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Flow Research Collective was founded by Steven Kotler, one of the world’s leading experts on human peak performance. He is an award-winning journalist and author with over ten bestselling books.

High-performing teams are said to have chemistry. What's happening is synchrony—measurable patterns in brains, bodies, and behavior.

In this episode, Steven Kotler speaks with Dr. Michael Mannino and Erwin Valencia about team synchrony—the biological alignment that underpins trust, psychological safety, and team flow. They explore why teams routinely overestimate their effectiveness, how synchrony predicts performance under pressure, and why remote work makes these signals harder to sense but more critical to measure.

The conversation goes beyond theory, examining new tools that reveal the gap between perception and reality and help teams close it through subtle behavior-level shifts—without surveillance, micromanagement, or killing flow.

At scale, cooperation is a serious competitive advantage.

This episode shows how to build it deliberately.

Guest Bios:

Michael Mannino, PhD

Dr. Michael Mannino is a neuroscientist, co-CEO of Syneurgy, and Chief Science Officer at Flow Research Collective. He works at the intersection of applied neuroscience, human performance science, and AI. Michael holds a PhD in neuroscience, has published research on cognition, consciousness, flow, and intuition, and brings a systems-level perspective shaped by work across academia, technology, and research institutions including NASA.

Erwin Valencia

Erwin Valencia is a behavior designer, executive coach, and co-CEO of Syneurgy. He integrates behavior design, applied neuroscience, flow science, and embodied learning to help teams improve trust, coordination, and performance. Erwin is one of only five hundred Executive and Organizational Coaches worldwide certified by Columbia University and an alum of Stanford University’s Behavior Design Lab.

In This Episode:

00:02 From Wall Street to Applied Neuroscience

02:39 The Accidental Amazon Security Guard

05:42 What Is Team Synchrony?

10:20 The Remote Work Crisis

14:30 The 75% Delusion

21:04 19% Performance Boost in Six Weeks

30:26 The Future Is Already Here

36:11 What Kills Team Synchrony

45:03 Small Changes, Big Results

51:04 The One Thing Leaders Can Do Tomorrow

Episode Resources:

In their new book, We Are as Gods, Steven Kotler and Peter Diamandis explore a simple but urgent question: What cognitive skills do we need to survive—and thrive—in an age of abundance?

The book is a practical guide to making better decisions, navigating uncertainty, and scaling opportunity in a world moving faster than human intuition evolved to manage.

→ Order your copy here.

Syneurgy is an AI-powered platform that reveals how teams communicate, align, and perform—turning hidden dynamics into actionable insight. By illuminating patterns of collaboration and interpersonal synchrony, Syneurgy helps teams build deeper connection, stronger alignment, and sustained high performance.

→ Explore Syneurgy here.

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Flow Research Collective was founded by Steven Kotler, one of the world’s leading experts on human peak performance. He is an award-winning journalist and author with over ten bestselling books.

Why do the smartest people get stuck the fastest?

Recorded live in New York at the closing panel of our Alliance mastermind, this conversation brings together three of the sharpest minds in human performance—Steven Kotler, Dr. Sarah Sarkis, and Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman—to dissect the moment when learning quietly becomes procrastination.

They break down why high performers regress to old habits, how emotional load hijacks working memory, and why urgency feels like motivation but burns dirty on the backend. The result is a rare, inside-the-room masterclass on flow, intuition, and the subtle ways brilliant minds delay the work that matters most.

Takeaways:

• Why learning often replaces doing—and how to break the cycle
• The neuroscience behind procrastination, urgency, and energy management
• How intuition, emotion, and identity shape performance
• Practical tools to stay consistent, start sooner, and protect momentum

A rare, unscripted conversation straight from the Alliance—now yours.

Guest Bios:

Dr. Sarah Sarkis is a licensed clinical psychologist and certified executive leadership coach. After 20+ years running her own practice, her focus shifted to working with CEOs, athletes, and executives pursuing moonshot goals in the psychological game of greatness. She provides coaching, keynote speeches, and leads multi-day training workshops. Dr. Sarkis has been featured in The New York Times, Women's Health, Huffington Post, and CNBC. Her approach is science-backed and bullshit-free.Explore Dr. Sarah Sarkis’s work: https://drsarahsarkis.com/

Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman is a cognitive scientist, professor, and best-selling author known for redefining how we understand intelligence, creativity, and human potential. One of the most cited psychologists in the world, he teaches at Columbia University, where he directs the Center for Human Potential, and hosts The Psychology Podcast, with over 30 million downloads.

His research has appeared in The Atlantic, Scientific American, Psychology Today, and Harvard Business Review. He's authored 11 books, including Rise Above, which explores how limiting beliefs hold us back.

He holds degrees from Carnegie Mellon, Cambridge (as a Gates Scholar), and Yale, where he completed his PhD in cognitive psychology.

Explore Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman’s work: https://scottbarrykaufman.com/

In This Episode:

04:12 The Smallest Viable Dose: The Secret to Consistency

09:20 The Hedonistic Hack: How Rewards Drive Momentum

12:45 Stop Before You Crash: The Flow-Saving Strategy You're Not Using

17:18 Why We Freestyle Our Lives—And How to Break the Pattern

22:04 Overcommitment Is Killing Your Flow

28:36 Emotional Hijacking: How to Reclaim Your Working Memory

34:55 When Learning Becomes Procrastination

41:28 Intuition, the Unconscious, and the Brain's Pathfinding System

48:30 When Your Best Qualities Become Your Worst

51:45 The Flow Productivity Trap: Why Success Makes You Overcommit

Episode Resources:

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The Alliance is a high-flow think tank disguised as a mastermind—designed specifically for creative leaders, visionary entrepreneurs, and thought leaders.

→ Head here to apply.

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When I think about the fastest, most creative teams I’ve ever seen, they all share the same blueprint: trust creates safety, safety fuels risk, risk sparks creativity, and flow binds it all together.

That’s why I brought two of my favorite creative leaders into this conversation—Ivy Ross, VP of Design at Google, who has reshaped the look and feel of fifty-plus products and won hundreds of awards, and Jody Levy, serial entrepreneur and former CEO of Summit, the legendary community of creators and change agents.

What I love about this episode is that Ivy and Jody don’t deal in abstractions. They talk about how they actually build cultures where people move faster, see further, and flow together.

Here’s what you’ll learn in this episode:

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Kill fight-or-flight before it kills creativity. Most companies live in survival mode. Ivy and Jody show how trust and psychological safety pull people back into the “green zone,” where creativity thrives.

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Rehearse the future until it feels inevitable. Strategy isn’t just a plan—it’s a story rehearsed so vividly that people can’t help but believe and move toward it.

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Intuition is compressed expertise. Our best calls don’t come from spreadsheets. They come from years of pattern recognition surfacing as a hunch you can trust.

—Steven

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Guest Bios:

Ivy Ross is the Vice President of Design for the Hardware organization at Google. Over the past six years, she and her team have launched 50+ products, winning over 240 global design awards. This collection of hardware established a new Google design aesthetic that is tactile, colorful, and bold.

A winner of a National Endowment for the Arts grant, Ivy’s innovative metal work in jewelry is in the permanent collections of 12 international museums.

Ivy has held executive positions ranging from head of product design and development to CMO and presidencies of several companies, including Calvin Klein, Swatch, Coach, Mattel, Bausch & Lomb, and Gap.

Ninth on Fast Company’s list of the 100 Most Creative People in Business 2019, Ivy believes the intersection of arts and science is where the most engaging and creative ideas are found.

Most recently, Ivy co-authored with Susan Magsamen Your Brain on Art: How the Arts Transform Us. Jody Levy is an artist, a systems thinker, and a serial entrepreneur who’s built everything from WTRMLN WTR, a category-defining beverage brand, to NeuroPraxis, a platform bridging the gap left by one-size-fits-all approaches to brain and spinal cord injury rehab. She also leads large-scale recovery operations and is the former CEO of Summit—the legendary community of creators, builders, and change agents. Jody’s work lives at the intersection of wellness, innovation, and impact.

She has a rare ability to turn bold ideas into real-world systems for healing, creativity, and human optimization.

In This Episode:

00:00 Unlocking the Blueprint for Team Flow
04:30 The Unexpected Partnership That Sparked Big Ideas
16:55 Reinvention Strategies from the Trenches
19:21 Why Trust Is the Ultimate Speed Hack
21:27 Rituals That Turn Safety Into Creativity
26:10 Rehearsing the Future to Accelerate the Present
30:59 What Navy SEALs Can Teach Us About Flow
41:14 The Hidden Costs (and Payoffs) of Collaboration

1:00:21 Training Intuition as a Leadership Superpower

1:10:13 How Great Leaders Sustain Creative Energy

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Karl Friston is one of the most influential neuroscientists alive. He pioneered the methods that underpin modern brain imaging and developed the Free Energy Principle—considered by many neuroscientists to be the closest thing we have to a general theory of intelligence.

In this conversation with Dr. Michael Mannino and me, Friston explains why your brain doesn’t just record reality—it invents it. Perception is best understood as a “controlled hallucination”: the brain generates models of the world, then tests them against incoming data.

We dig into what this means for consciousness, resilience, and performance.

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Why intuition works as your brain’s shortcut for reducing uncertainty

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How flow states and psychedelics both relax rigid brain assumptions—unlocking clarity and creativity

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• Why mental health challenges like depression, PTSD, and addiction often stem from overly rigid neural networks.

• How attention functions as a lever for healing, flexibility, and peak performance

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Friston shows how predictive coding and metastability express ancient evolutionary mechanisms for creativity, resilience, and recovery—and how new science helps us apply these processes to amplify health and performance over time.

If you want a deeper grasp of how your brain constructs reality—and how to shape that construction through flow—this is the episode to watch.

Guest Bio: Dr. Karl Friston is a theoretical neuroscientist and one of the most influential figures in modern brain science. He invented statistical parametric mapping, voxel-based morphometry, and dynamic causal modeling—methods that have become foundational to brain imaging. He also developed the Free Energy Principle, a unifying framework for action and perception that’s been called the closest thing we have to a general theory of intelligence.

Across his career, Karl has earned nearly every major accolade in neuroscience, from the Minerva Golden Brain Award to the Glass Brain Award for lifetime achievement in human brain mapping. He’s a Fellow of the Royal Society, the Royal Society of Biology, the Academia Europaea, and EMBO.

And he’s also a collaborator with us here at the Flow Research Collective. Together we’ve published two recent papers—just last week in Nature: Communications Biology on Pathfinding: a neurodynamical account of intuition, and earlier in Neuroscience of Consciousness on Flow and intuition: a systems neuroscience comparison.

In This Episode:

05:38 Birth of the Free Energy Principle

09:09 Theoretical vs. Computational Neuroscience

11:06 What the Free Energy Principle Actually Means

17:42 Intuition as Inference

24:15 Flow, Uncertainty, and Prediction

29:39 Flow, Psychedelics & PTSD

38:12 Cognitive Bias & Relaxing Priors

49:55 Flow as Neuroprotective

1:03:20 Metastability: The Brain’s Flexibility Principle

1:12:36 From Theory to Practice

Episode Resources:

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Check out a few of the papers featured in this episode below:

• Pathfinding: A Neurodynamical Account of Intuition: https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-025-08612-9
• Flow and intuition: a systems neuroscience comparison: https://academic.oup.com/nc/article/2025/1/niae040/7942876

Flow Radio Is Presented By Steven Kotler’s Flow Research CollectiveFlow Research Collective was founded by Steven Kotler, one of the world’s leading experts on human peak performance. He is an award-winning journalist and author with over ten bestselling books.

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AI is moving faster than most of us can comprehend. But what if our edge isn’t in outthinking machines—but in outflowing them?

In this episode, Steven Kotler sits down with two of the sharpest minds shaping our technological future: Peter Diamandis, founder of the XPRIZE and a pioneer of exponential thinking, and Mo Gawdat, former Chief Business Officer at Google X and bestselling author of Scary Smart. Together, they unpack how artificial intelligence is changing everything—from productivity and purpose to risk, resilience, and what it means to stay human at speed.

If you're feeling overwhelmed by the pace of change, this episode offers tools rooted in neuroscience, performance psychology, and hard-earned experience at the bleeding edge of innovation.

You'll Learn:

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Why intuition, context, and creativity are still uniquely human superpowers.

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How to use flow states to outperform exponential tech (instead of being crushed by it).

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Why training risk tolerance and recovery are essential survival skills in a synthetic world.

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• How AI mirrors our attention patterns—and what that means for your daily habits.

• The difference between linear and vertical evolution—and why most people are stuck in the wrong model.

Guest Bios:

Peter Diamandis: Recently named one of Fortune’s “World’s 50 Greatest Leaders,” Peter Diamandis is the Founder and Executive Chairman of the XPRIZE Foundation, which has launched over $500 million in incentive prize competitions. He also founded Singularity University and has started more than 25 companies in healthtech, space, venture capital, and education.

Diamandis is Co-founder and Vice-Chairman of Celularity and Vaxxinity, and Chairman of Fountain Life—a platform for predictive, preventative, and data-driven health. He also co-founded BOLD Capital Partners, a $500 million fund investing in exponential technologies and longevity companies.

A four-time New York Times bestselling author, his books include Abundance, BOLD, The Future is Faster Than You Think, LIFE FORCE (with Tony Robbins), and LONGEVITY: Your Practical Playbook.

Mo Gawdat: Mo Gawdat is the former Chief Business Officer of Google [X]; host of the popular podcast, Slo Mo: A Podcast with Mo Gawdat; author of the international bestselling books Solve for Happy; Scary Smart; That Little Voice in Your Head; and Unstressable; founder of One Billion Happy; and Chief AI Officer of Flight Story.

After a 30 year career in tech and serving as Chief Business Officer at Google [X], Google's 'moonshot factory' of innovation, Mo has made happiness his primary topic of research, diving deeply into literature and conversing on the topic with some of the wisest people in the world. In recent years, he has focused on the dangerous implications of rapid AI development.

In This Episode:

02:15 The False Promise of AI Productivity

06:41 Why Flow Beats the Busy Trap

11:02 Synthetic Intelligence, Human Reflection

17:48 You Can’t Outthink AI—But You Can Outflow It

23:05 Risk Tolerance: The Real Cognitive Upgrade

29:17 The Burnout Feedback Loop

36:44 Training Your Brain for Warp Speed

42:10 How AI Mirrors Your Attention Patterns

48:19 Peak Performance as an Existential Choice

55:31The Human Advantage: Intuition, Context, Creativity

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What if your gut instinct was more than a hunch? What if it was your brain’s first navigation system—designed to reduce uncertainty, minimize surprise, and keep you alive?

In this episode of Flow Radio, Steven Kotler and neuroscientist Dr. Michael Mannino crack open the black box of intuition. Along with co-authors Karl Friston, György Buzsáki, J.A. Scott Kelso, and Guillaume Dumas, they’ve just completed a new scientific paper—Pathfinding: A Neurodynamical Account of Intuition—set to be published this summer in Nature Communications Biology.

Thirty years in the making, the paper proposes a bold model: intuition as pathfinding. Not magic. Not precognition. But an embodied, neurodynamic process built to help us make the next best move—fast.

From hippocampal sharp wave ripples to attractor landscapes and the free energy principle, Kotler and Mannino break down how your brain runs compressed simulations of the past to predict the future. You’ll learn how intuition differs from insight, why instincts often lead us astray in matters of sex and money, and how novel environments can help you tap into opportunistic assimilation—a key to creativity and problem-solving.

You'll Learn:

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Why intuition is a movement-based, evolutionarily ancient survival mechanism

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The role of hippocampal “sharp wave ripples” in solving problems while you sleep—and while you move

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How to train your “prepared mind” to boost intuitive decision-making

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Why intuition is fast, embodied, and predictive—and what that means for agency, flow, and peak performance

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How the brain uses the free energy principle to minimize surprise and optimize action

→ This is neuroscience with bite. A gut-check for anyone who’s ever wondered, “Should I trust my instinct?”

In This Episode:

05:13 Defining Intuition: Pathfinding in the Brain

18:06 Neuroscience Behind Intuition

24:11 The Role of Memory and Problem Solving in Intuition

30:00 Theoretical Frameworks: Free Energy Principle and Meta-Stability

37:00 700% More Creative? Flow Science Explained

40:38 Exploring Intuition and Decision Making

43:52 Neuroscience of Intuition and Action

47:02 The Role of Feedback in Intuition

54:50 Delta Waves and Intuition

58:42 Meta-Stability and Multitasking

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Flow Research Collective was founded by Steven Kotler, one of the world’s leading experts on human peak performance. He is an award-winning journalist and author with over ten bestselling books.
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What do DIY entrepreneurship, peak performance, and punk rock have in common? Everything.

In this live Flow Radio episode, recorded at Summit at Sea 2024, New York Times bestselling author and FRC Executive Director Steven Kotler joins fashion icon John Varvatos to trace the rebel spirit from CBGB’s to Silicon Valley. Together, they map how the kids nobody wanted—punks, misfits, and rule-breakers—accidentally built the culture of innovation we live in today.

This isn’t just music history. It’s a neuroscience-backed deep dive into how rebellion, risk, and raw self-expression create the perfect storm for flow—and why punk’s anti-authoritarian DNA became the blueprint for startup culture, action sports, and social movements.

If you’re chasing innovation, impact, or just trying to stay sane while breaking things—there’s flow on the other side of risk.

Go get it.

Guest Bio:

John Varvatos is an award-winning fashion designer, cultural curator, and lifelong rebel.Best known for fusing rock-and-roll attitude with high-end tailoring, he launched his namesake brand in 2000 and has since earned multiple CFDA Designer of the Year awards. He’s also the force behind the revival of CBGB—the legendary punk venue turned retail and cultural space.

From the Bowery to boardrooms, Varvatos has spent decades channeling the punk ethos into business, design, and live music. His work sits at the intersection of culture, entrepreneurship, and radical self-expression—making him not just a fashion icon, but a builder of movements.

In This Episode:

03:30 Punk as Evolutionary Instinct

06:45 The DIY Revolution Begins

10:55 The Neuroscience Behind the Movement

14:30 Group Flow, Mosh Pits & the End of the Stage Dive

18:15 From Subculture to Startup Culture

25:00 Punk Values: Radical Individuality to DIY Capitalism

30:45 Rebellion Goes Mainstream

36:00 The New Punk: Entrepreneurs, Artists & Conscious Rebels

38:20 Final Words from the Moshpit

Episode Resources:

Steven returns to Summit this June in Detroit—a city that pulses with creativity, reinvention, and raw energy.

Join a one-of-a-kind gathering of visionaries, builders, and creators. This one won’t be forgotten.

→ Learn more & apply to attend

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No one is coming to save you—but staying stuck isn’t the only option.

Steven Kotler and Ryan Wickes welcome back Columbia professor and humanistic psychologist Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman—author of the just-released Rise Above, and one of today’s leading voices on human potential.

Kaufman joins to unpack the victim mindset, the neurobiology of agency, and how narcissism, entitlement, and impostor syndrome can quietly block the path to self-actualization.

At the heart of this conversation is a powerful truth: flow demands agency. When we feel powerless, we avoid challenge—and without challenge, there is no flow. A victim mindset disrupts the neural circuitry behind motivation, focus, and drive.

This episode breaks down the science of that disruption—and maps out a way through. From learned helplessness to learned hopefulness, you’ll hear how reclaiming agency reactivates your growth, unlocks flow, and strengthens resilience.

The journey is personal. The tools are universal.

Guest Bio:

Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman is a humanistic psychologist, Columbia University professor, and one of the world’s leading experts on intelligence, creativity, and human potential. Ranked in the top 1% of most-cited scientists worldwide, he’s the founder of Self-Actualization Coaching, director of the Center for Human Potential, and host of The Psychology Podcast (30M+ downloads). Named one of Business Insider’s 50 groundbreaking scientists, he’s authored 11 books—including Transcend, Choose Growth, and his latest, Rise Above.

In This Episode:

03:03 The Journey from Creativity to Self-Actualization

06:07 Overcoming the Victim Mindset

09:07 Neurobiology of Mindsets

15:06 Understanding the Victim Mindset

17:53 Evolutionary Perspectives on Victimhood

20:53 Empathy and Honest Love

25:29 Empowerment Through Adversity

28:39 Challenging the Trauma Narrative

32:39 Navigating the Victim Mindset

45:12 Imposter Syndrome: A Signal for Growth

52:08 Narcissism and Wellbeing

Episode Resources:

Self-Actualizing People in the 21st Century by Scott Barry Kaufman

A modern, data-driven update to Maslow’s theory—complete with a validated scale and new insights into well-being, resilience, and creative expression.

→ Read the full paper

Scott’s New Book — Rise Above

Want to go deeper on the science behind the victim mindset, resilience, and human potential?

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Creativity isn’t a nice-to-have. It’s a survival skill.

In this episode of Flow Radio, Steven Kotler sits down with artist, designer, and serial entrepreneur Jody Levy for a conversation on how intuition, constraint, and ritual unlock creativity—and why all three are non-negotiables for high-performance leadership.

They trace Jody’s path through experience design and explore the mindset behind building high-flow communities. From the tactical to the transcendent, this episode delivers real tools—and ends with a major announcement: the Summit community is coming to Detroit. It’s a rare chance to catch Steven live, speaking on flow, AI, and the future of creativity.

If you're chasing innovation, collaboration, and community at full tilt—don’t miss it.

Guest Bio:

Jody Levy is an artist, systems thinker, and serial entrepreneur whose work lives at the intersection of wellness, innovation, and impact.

She’s the founder of WTRMLN WTR, the category-defining beverage brand; the creator of NeuroPraxis, a breakthrough platform for brain and spinal cord recovery; and a leader in large-scale trauma and disaster response. Today, she serves as the Global Director and CEO of Summit—the legendary community of creators, builders, and change agents.

Jody has a rare ability to turn bold ideas into real-world systems for healing, creativity, and human optimization.

In This Episode:

02:51 The Journey of Creativity and Flow

05:49 The Role of Art in Emotional Regulation

08:58 Intuition and Decision-Making in Entrepreneurship

11:50 Constraints as Catalysts for Creativity

17:48 Building High-Impact Experiences

29:53 The Importance of Structure in Creative Environments

31:06 Cultivating Flow in Teams

36:25 The Power of Rituals

41:04 Time Management and Leadership

46:32 Optimizing Community Engagement

52:37 Preserving the Magic in Growth

Summit Detroit

This June, Steven will be joining forces with Summit (once again) in Detroit—a city that pulses with creativity, reinvention, and raw energy. Join an unforgettable gathering of visionaries, builders, and creators.

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What happens when AI takes center stage—and humans still want to create?

Steven Kotler returns to Peter Diamandis’s Moonshots to unpack the forces shaping our future: AI, abundance, creativity, and how flow fuels the human advantage. Drawing on three decades at the bleeding edge of peak performance, they explore what it takes to thrive in a world accelerating beyond imagination—and why the right 100 people can still change everything.

This is required listening for creatives, entrepreneurs, and anyone building in the age of machines. If the future belongs to the bold, flow is your blueprint.

Guest Bio:

Recently named one of Fortune’s “World’s 50 Greatest Leaders,” Peter Diamandis is the Founder and Executive Chairman of the XPRIZE Foundation, which has launched over $500 million in incentive prize competitions. He also founded Singularity University and has started more than 25 companies in healthtech, space, venture capital, and education.

Diamandis is Co-founder and Vice-Chairman of Celularity and Vaxxinity, and Chairman of Fountain Life—a platform for predictive, preventative, and data-driven health. He also co-founded BOLD Capital Partners, a $500 million fund investing in exponential technologies and longevity companies.

A four-time New York Times bestselling author, his books include Abundance, BOLD, The Future is Faster Than You Think, LIFE FORCE (with Tony Robbins), and LONGEVITY: Your Practical Playbook.

He holds degrees in molecular genetics and aerospace engineering from MIT and an M.D. from Harvard Medical School. His motto: “The best way to predict the future is to create it yourself.”

In This Episode:

05:42 Tech Tipping Points: From Tesla to GPT-4

10:04 Understanding Flow States

14:00 Flow & Craft

29:51 Facing the Fermi Paradox: What Comes Next?

37:00 700% More Creative? Flow Science Explained

57:37 The XPRIZE & Cross-Disciplinary Breakthroughs

01:19:31 Mindset as Neurobiology, Not Woo-Woo

01:30:31 The Age of AI Companions

01:19:31 Mindset and Resilience

01:57:37 How 100 People Shift Culture

02:09:17 Inside The Alliance: Creativity, Flow, and the Future of Learning

Episode Resources:

The Alliance is a hyper-curated 15-person think tank where we train creativity and collaborate with one another.

The Alliance is made up of visionary, entrepreneurs and thought leaders looking to accelerate their creative process and realize their next breakthrough

→ Apply to join today

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What happens when you reach such extreme states of pain that you start having out-of-body experiences?

Join us for a fascinating conversation with James Lawrence (aka the Iron Cowboy) about redefining human limits, managing pain through flow states, and what happens when you push beyond what doctors claim is impossible.

James shares his raw truth about overcoming the voice of doubt, achieving out-of-body flow experiences, and why your next step won't kill you—even when everything in your body screams otherwise.

From his early days riding a Ferris wheel for ten straight days in a contest of who could stay bored the longest to becoming a world record holder, this is a masterclass in human potential.

In This Episode:

05:04 The Journey to Endurance Sports

10:04 Understanding Flow States

14:53 Managing the Internal Bully

19:58 The 50-50-50 Challenge

25:06 The Conquer 100 Experience

36:37 The Power of Flow in Peak Performance

38:11 Mastering Monotony for Success

40:19 Embracing the Impossible

50:15 Mindset and Resilience

56:39 Recovery and Adaptation

01:01:35 Intuition and Flow Experiences

About The Guest:

James Lawrence, more commonly known as the Iron Cowboy, is a world-renowned speaker, endurance athlete, 2x author, and 2x documentary subject.

He received his nickname from the public after he started to wear a cowboy hat during races to be recognized by his children.

With two Guinness world records under his belt, James and his family attempted to do something every person deemed impossible, the 50/50/50.

However, that wasn't enough to satisfy him. On June 8, 2021, James achieved a remarkable milestone known as the Conquer 100—a series of 100 consecutive full-distance triathlons, as coined by the team.

Sports Illustrated ranked James in the top 50 fittest freaks with Lebron James and Connor McGregor, two of James' favorite athletes.

Originally from Calgary, Canada, he now lives in Utah with his wife, Sunny, and their five children. His family plays a crucial role in his endeavors, providing unwavering support through his remarkable journey.

Episode Resources:

Book: Iron Hope: Lessons Learned from Conquering the Impossible - January 21, 2025

Website: http://ironcowboy.com

Social: @ironcowboyjames

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Flow—your brain's gateway drug to the infinite game.

How far could you push your performance if you knew exactly what your brain was capable of?

In this special Ask Me Anything episode, Steven Kotler and Dr. Michael Mannino answer questions from people around the world who use their work to unlock more flow. They share mind-bending insights about "getting into the zone"—insights that have helped world-class athletes and entrepreneurs break through their perceived limitations.

Through candid stories and cutting-edge research, they show exactly how anyone can tap into these optimal states of consciousness—whether you're hurling yourself down mountains or seeking deeper connections in your everyday life.

The question isn't whether you can access these states. The question is: what will you do once you know how?

Warning: Side effects include the uncontrollable drive to truly live your life.

In This Episode:

01:01 Endurance & Scripting

20:27 Clear Goals: Risk vs. Reward

29:00 ADHD, Flow States, and Peak Performance

41:00 Neurodivergence Debate: Rethinking Labels

49:19 Flow States in Healing and Therapy

54:54 Teacher-Student Flow Dynamics

1:00:04 Psychoneuroimmunology and Healing

1:03:04 Individual vs. Group Flow States

1:07:36 Closing Remarks and Holiday Wishes

About The Guest:

Steven Kotler is a New York Times-bestselling author, an award-winning journalist, and the co-founder and executive director of the Flow Research Collective. He is one of the world’s leading experts on human performance. He is the author of eleven bestsellers (out of fourteen books), including The Art of Impossible, The Future is Faster Than You Think, Stealing Fire, The Rise of Superman, Bold and Abundance. His work has been nominated for three Pulitzer Prizes, translated into over sixty languages, and has appeared in over 110 publications, including academic journals such as Neuroscience and Biobehavioral Reviews and Psychophysiology, and mainstream publications like The New York Times Magazine, Wired, Atlantic Monthly, Wall Street Journal, TIME, and the Harvard Business Review.

Dr. Michael Mannino is the Director of Programs at the University of Miami's Institute for Data Science and Computing, focusing on AI projects across various domains. He holds a Ph.D. in neuroscience and a Master’s in philosophy, with expertise in embodied cognition, critical thinking, and the philosophy of mind. As a professor of philosophy and ethics for over a decade, Michael integrates his academic background with a passion for peak performance, flow science, and the mind-body connection. He is also an athlete, musician, and avid learner, and serves on the Singularity University Miami Chapter.

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Paper:A framework for neurophysiological experiments on flow states

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Flow Research Collective was founded by Steven Kotler, one of the world’s leading experts on human peak performance. He is an award-winning journalist and author with over ten bestselling books.

Flow—your brain's gateway drug to the infinite game.

In this episode of Afterthoughts, Steven Kotler reveals how flow states unlock doors to possibilities we never knew existed. Joined by neuroscientist Dr. Michael Mannino and host Ryan Wickes, the team explores how flow can revolutionize aging.

Building on Steven's conversation with Modern Elder Academy founder Chip Conley, they examine why time slows in flow, how brains sync in groups, and why curiosity defends against aging. Tune in for practical insights for maintaining vitality throughout life.

This isn't just theory—it's a roadmap to unlocking your brain's natural anti-aging mechanisms. From neuroplasticity to cognitive reserve, discover how flow might be the fountain of youth we seek.

Join the discussion by leaving your questions for future Afterthoughts episodes in the comments.

In This Episode:

02:30 Gateway Drug to the Infinite Game

14:30 Time Perception Changes

19:05 Zombie Cells and Inflammation

27:03 Training Creativity

31:00 Recovery and Flow Triggers

39:40 Group Flow Synchronization

44:20 Curiosity and Neural Networks

49:15 AI and Flow Research

52:30 The Hippocampus and New Neurons

54:30 Language Learning and Flow

About The Guest:

Steven Kotler is a New York Times-bestselling author, an award-winning journalist, and the cofounder and executive director of the Flow Research Collective. He is one of the world’s leading experts on human performance. He is the author of eleven bestsellers (out of fourteen books), including The Art of Impossible, The Future is Faster Than You Think, Stealing Fire, The Rise of Superman, Bold and Abundance. His work has been nominated for three Pulitzer Prizes, translated into over sixty languages, and has appeared in over 110 publications, including academic journals such as Neuroscience and Biobehavioral Reviews and Psychophysiology, and mainstream publications like The New York Times Magazine, Wired, Atlantic Monthly, Wall Street Journal, TIME, and the Harvard Business Review.

Dr. Michael Mannino is the Director of Programs at the University of Miami's Institute for Data Science and Computing, focusing on AI projects across various domains. He holds a Ph.D. in neuroscience and a Master’s in philosophy, with expertise in embodied cognition, critical thinking, and the philosophy of mind. As a professor of philosophy and ethics for over a decade, Michael integrates his academic background with a passion for peak performance, flow science, and the mind-body connection. He is also an athlete, musician, and avid learner, and serves on the Singularity University Miami Chapter.

Episode Resources:

Books:

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The Wisdom Paradox by Elkhonon Goldberg

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The Art of Impossible by Steven Kotler

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The Mature Mind by Gene Cohen

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The Mindful Body by Ellen J. Langer

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Aging Well by George Vaillant

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The Blue Zones by Dan Buettner

Research:

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David Eaglemen on Time Perception

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The Relationship between Flow Experience and Burnout Symptoms: A Systematic Review

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What is cognitive reserve? Theory and research application of the reserve concept

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First few seconds for flow: A comprehensive proposal of the neurobiology and neurodynamics of state onset

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Think performance peaks when you're "young"? Think again. Research shows you can unlock a surprising set of superpowers as you age.

In this episode of Flow Radio, peak performance expert Steven Kotler sits down with Chip Conley to explore how older minds excel at pattern recognition, complex problem-solving, and emotional intelligence. You'll learn why age brings unique advantages in both business and life.

Conley shares insights from his time as Airbnb's Head of Global Hospitality, where they called him their "modern elder." Today, he runs the Modern Elder Academy, teaching people how to thrive in midlife and beyond.

Tune in to discover why your best years might still be ahead—and how to make the most of them.

In This Episode:

00:00 The Birth of a Modern Elder

07:52 The Hidden Advantages of Aging Brains

13:35 The Midlife Crisis Myth

18:48 Why We Need Midlife Wisdom Schools

23:55 Becoming a Beginner Again

29:15 Flow States and Longevity32:45 Breaking Down Age Apartheid

35:22 The Longevity Paradox36:51 Beyond Lifespan: Intro to Zest Span

About The Guest:

Successful hospitality entrepreneur and bestselling author Chip Conley is on a mission to reframe our relationship with aging. As the founder of MEA, the world's first midlife wisdom school with regenerative communities, Conley is disrupting both the idea of higher education and senior living. He has both a BA and MBA from Stanford University and an Honorary PhD in Psychology from Saybrook University. He’s been a TED speaker at the prestigious annual conference multiple times.

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Website: https://chipconley.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chipconleysf/

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Modern Elder Academy: https://www.meawisdom.com/

Chip’s Books: https://chipconley.com/my-books/

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Believe the hype—art can transform your life.In this episode of Flow Radio, hosts Steven Kotler, Dr. Michael Mannino, and Ryan Wickes explore the powerful connections between creativity, longevity, and the future of human-AI collaboration.

Tune in for a fresh look at how an “aesthetic mindset” influences aging, cognitive health, and the amount of flow in your life.

Plus, get the low down on how partnering with AI can boost your creative potential far beyond a run-of-the-mill brainstorm.

This is a must-listen for anyone wanting practical tips to lead a happier, healthier, and more creative life.

Join the discussion by leaving your questions for future Afterthoughts episodes in the comments.

In This Episode:

01:36 Art vs. Altruism

04:06 Creativity and Longevity

06:19 The Role of AI in Future Jobs

11:10 Wisdom and Creativity as We Age

17:32 Brain Damage and Creativity

28:27 Hacking Creativity with Daydreaming35:12 Microflow and Daily Art Practice

42:08 Can AI Be Truly Creative?

About The Guest:

Steven Kotler is a New York Times-bestselling author, an award-winning journalist, and the co-founder and executive director of the Flow Research Collective. He is one of the world’s leading experts on human performance. He is the author of eleven bestsellers (out of fourteen books), including The Art of Impossible, The Future is Faster Than You Think, Stealing Fire, The Rise of Superman, Bold and Abundance. His work has been nominated for three Pulitzer Prizes, translated into over sixty languages, and has appeared in over 110 publications, including academic journals such as Neuroscience and Biobehavioral Reviews and Psychophysiology, and mainstream publications like The New York Times Magazine, Wired, Atlantic Monthly, Wall Street Journal, TIME, and the Harvard Business Review.

Dr. Michael Mannino is the Director of Programs at the University of Miami's Institute for Data Science and Computing, focusing on AI projects across various domains. He holds a Ph.D. in neuroscience and a Master’s in philosophy, with expertise in embodied cognition, critical thinking, and the philosophy of mind. As a professor of philosophy and ethics for over a decade, Michael integrates his academic background with a passion for peak performance, flow science, and the mind-body connection. He is also an athlete, musician, and avid learner, and serves on the Singularity University Miami Chapter.

Episode Resources:

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Book: Your Brain on Art: How the Arts Transform Us by Susan Magsamen and Ivy Ross

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Book: The Mature Mind: The Positive Power of the Aging Brain by Gene Cohen

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Book: The Wisdom Paradox: How Your Mind Can Grow Stronger As Your Brain Grows Older by Elkhonon Goldberg

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Article: Eric Kandel’s Research on Aesthetic Experience

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Podcast: John Kounios on Mood and Creativity

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In this episode of Flow Radio, Steven Kotler and Dr. Michael Mannino sit down with Susan Magsamen and Ivy Ross, co-authors of Your Brain on Art: How the Arts Transform Us.

These groundbreaking experts explain how making and experiencing art changes the way we think, feel, and perform. From our ancient past to cutting-edge science, find out why art isn’t just beautiful—it’s fuel for your brain.

Learn how just 20 minutes of creative practice can boost your mental edge, unlock more flow, and supercharge problem-solving. Plus, discover how AI is revolutionizing art creation and opening new frontiers in human-machine creativity.

Tune in to unlock practical insights for tapping into your creative genius.

In This Episode:

00:03 The Intersection of Art, Brain, and Performance

02:11 How Susan and Ivy Became Pioneers in Their Fields

05:04 Bridging Art and Science

09:10 Why We're Wired for Art

14:22 Art as Medicine

22:52 Flow States and Creativity

30:57 Current Research

37:46 Daily Practices for Enhancing Creativity

43:24 AI and Art

48:22 Why Neuroesthetics Matters for Everyone

About The Guest:

Ivy Ross is the Vice President of Design for the Hardware organization at Google. Over the past six years, she and her team have launched 50+ products winning over 240 global design awards. This collection of hardware established a new Google design aesthetic that is tactile, colorful, and bold.

A winner of a National Endowment for the Arts grant, Ivy’s innovative metal work in jewelry is in the permanent collections of 12 international museums.

Ivy has held executive positions ranging from head of product design and development to CMO and presidencies of several companies, including Calvin Klein, Swatch, Coach, Mattel, Bausch & Lomb, and Gap.

Ninth on Fast Company’s list of the 100 Most Creative People in Business 2019, Ivy believes the intersection of arts and science is where the most engaging and creative ideas are found.

Most recently, Ivy co-authored with Susan Magsamen Your Brain on Art: How the Arts Transform Us.

Susan Magsamen is the executive director of the International Arts + Mind Lab (IAM Lab), Center for Applied Neuroaesthetics, a pioneering neuroaesthetics initiative from the Pedersen Brain Science Institute at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. She is the co-director of the NeuroArts Blueprint with the Aspen Institute and co-author of the New York Times Bestseller, Your Brain on Art: How the Arts Transform Us. Susan studies how the arts and aesthetic experiences measurably change the brain, body, and behavior and how this knowledge can be translated to inform health, wellbeing and learning in medicine, public health and education.

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Book website: Your Brain on Art: How the Arts Transform Us

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Lab: The International Arts + Mind Lab

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Social: YourBrainonArtBook

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Flow Research Collective was founded by Steven Kotler, one of the world’s leading experts on human peak performance. He is an award-winning journalist and author with over ten bestselling books.

In this Afterthoughts episode of Flow Radio, hosts Ryan Wickes, Steven Kotler, and Dr. Michael Mannino revisit their recent conversation with Dr. Jack Feldman, diving deeper into the neuroscience of breathing and its impact on peak performance.

Building on Dr. Feldman's groundbreaking research, the hosts explore:

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The surprising links between breathing techniques and psychedelic experiences

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How different types of breathwork might open various "neuroplastic windows" in the brain

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The complex relationship between breathing patterns and flow states across different activities

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The potential of short, 5-minute breathing exercises for stress reduction

This episode blends scientific insights with practical tips for everyday life, offering valuable takeaways for scientists, peak performers, and anyone curious about the power of breath.

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In This Episode:

0:00 Introduction

05:48 The Surprising Link Between Breathing and Emotion

14:57 How Interoception Enhances Flow and Peak Performance

20:09 Can Breathwork Unlock Neuroplasticity?

22:49 Breathwork and Psychedelics

40:38 Meditation vs. Breathwork: Which is a Better Gateway?

45:29 The Role of Conscious Breathing in Enhancing Flow States

About The Guest:

Steven Kotler is a New York Times-bestselling author, an award-winning journalist, and the cofounder and executive director of the Flow Research Collective. He is one of the world’s leading experts on human performance. He is the author of eleven bestsellers (out of fourteen books), including The Art of Impossible, The Future is Faster Than You Think, Stealing Fire, The Rise of Superman, Bold and Abundance. His work has been nominated for three Pulitzer Prizes, translated into over sixty languages, and has appeared in over 110 publications, including academic journals such as Neuroscience and Biobehavioral Reviews and Psychophysiology, and mainstream publications like The New York Times Magazine, Wired, Atlantic Monthly, Wall Street Journal, TIME, and the Harvard Business Review.

Dr. Michael Mannino is the Director of Programs at the University of Miami's Institute for Data Science and Computing, focusing on AI projects across various domains. He holds a Ph.D. in neuroscience and a Master’s in philosophy, with expertise in embodied cognition, critical thinking, and the philosophy of mind. As a professor of philosophy and ethics for over a decade, Michael integrates his academic background with a passion for peak performance, flow science, and the mind-body connection. He is also an athlete, musician, and avid learner, and serves on the Singularity University Miami Chapter.

Episode Resources:

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Paper: ⁠Breathing Rhythm and Pattern and Their Influence on Emotion⁠

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Article: ⁠Reengineering the Everglades⁠

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Paper: ⁠The psychophysiology of flow during piano playing⁠

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Interview: ⁠Holotropic Breathwork with Dr. Stanislav Grof⁠

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In this episode of Flow Radio, we explore the intricate science of breathing with Dr. Jack Feldman, a world-renowned neuroscientist.

Dr. Feldman, a professor at UCLA, has spent decades uncovering the secrets of how our brains control this vital function. His pioneering research has led to groundbreaking discoveries, such as identifying and naming a key brain area responsible for breathing rhythms.

Tune in as Dr. Feldman, along with bestselling author Steven Kotler and Dr. Michael Mannino, break down:

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The neuroscience behind how we breathe

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The connection between breathwork and emotional health

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Why understanding breathing is crucial for peak performance

Whether you’re curious about the science of breathing or looking for ways to improve your life, this episode is full of easy-to-understand insights and practical tips.

In This Episode:

00:02 Introducing a Legend

03:32 Evolution of Breathing in Mammals

07:41 The Role of the Diaphragm in Breathing

10:58 Understanding Sighs: A Physiological and Emotional Perspective

15:21 The Evolutionary Advantage of Calming Sighs

19:00 Breathing Rhythms and Brain Function

22:27 Disrupting Neural Circuits for Mental Health

25:45 Breathwork and Synaptic Plasticity

30:55 The Connection Between Endorphins and Breathwork

42:05 The Link Between Breathing and Flow States

About The Guest:

Jack Feldman revolutionized our understanding of basic physiological processes controlled by the brain by identifying and characterizing brain sites critical for breathing. He discovered two discrete brain structures critical for regulating breathing. Combining cutting edge techniques, development of new experimental preparations, and expertise in a range of disciplines, Jack identified several critical breathing functions originating in these brain areas including generation of inspiratory (i.e., inhaling) and expiratory (i.e., exhaling) patterns for normal breathing and for sighing. Most recently, Jack and his colleagues investigated mechanisms by which changes in breathing patterns (e.g., breathing practice) can affect emotion and cognition. His research continues to explore how the brain controls breathing, paving the way for further clinically relevant discoveries of mechanisms underlying breathing-related diseases, including sleep apnea, neurodegenerative diseases, and the positive effects of breathing practice on emotion. Jack is a recipient of the Hodgkin Huxley Katz Prize, the 125th Faculty Research Lecture UCLA, and the National Institutes of Health Outstanding Investigator Award in 2017 and 2023.

Episode Resources:

Website

A Snippet of Jack’s Research:

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Breathing Rhythm and Pattern and Their Influence on Emotion

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Microcircuit Synchronization and Heavy-Tailed Synaptic Weight Distribution Augment preBötzinger Complex Bursting Dynamics

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Emergent Elements of Inspiratory Rhythmogenesis: Network Synchronization and Synchrony Propagation

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