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Bats don’t suck but their reputation does. 🦇

On Framed by Fables, host and comedian Helen Hong teams up with wildlife biologist Miguel Ordeñana and special guest Lisa Morton, acclaimed author, Halloween expert, and paranormal historian, to explore the fascinating world of bats through a pop culture lens.

From bat facts and vampire lore to Halloween history and the origins of our spooky associations, this episode digs into how these remarkable animals became cultural icons. But how much of what we believe about bats comes from science, folklore, or something else entirely?

Follow the show for more surprising animal facts, pop culture deep dives, and the stories behind the reputations of the creatures we think we know.

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Resources:

Lisa Morton's website: https://lisamorton.com/

Lisa's podcast The Ghost Report: https://theghostreportwithlisamorton.podbean.com/
Lisa's Newsletter

https://lisamorton.substack.com/s/the-whole-haunted-world

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00:00 - Introduction: Why Are Bats So Misunderstood?
01:41 - Meet the Experts: Wildlife Biology & Halloween History
03:10 - How Bats Became the Mascot of Halloween
05:57 - Urban Bat Research in Los Angeles
07:07 - Why Bats Hunt at Night & Ecosystem Benefits
10:26 - Are Bats Really Blind? How Echolocation Works
13:06 - Bram Stoker & The Origins of the Vampire Bat Myth
14:48 - Why Do Bats Hang Upside Down?
15:34 - The Wild Biology of Bat Mating & Reproduction
19:00 - Bat Mothers & How Long Bats Live
22:15 - Why Bats Swarm Over Water at Sunset
23:54 - Do Vampire Bats Really Suck Blood?
27:38 - Vampire Myths vs. Real Bat Behavior
29:26 - Bat Flight Anatomy & The Fastest Flying Animal
32:00 - Bat Evolution: Why Bats Aren't Rodents
33:08 - What Does Bat Echolocation Actually Sound Like?
35:01 - The Real Blood Drinker: The Vampire Finch
37:06 - How to Support Local Bats & Safe Tree Trimming
39:02 - Bat Boxes & What to Do If a Bat Enters Your House
42:07 - Guest Projects & Wrap-Up

Credits

Host: Helen Hong

Animal Expert: Wildlife Biologist Miguel Ordeñana

Guest: Lisa Morton, award-winning author and Halloween expert

Creator and Exec Producer: Robin M. Henry

Producer: Emily Orr

Casting Producer: Robin Foster

Line Producer: James Lovewell

Editor: David Toms

Ad Sales: Brandon Carrillo

Set Artwork and Logo: Cliff Barrett

Special Thanks: Second Floor Studios

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Why can a tiny spider send an otherwise fearless person into a full-blown panic?

Little Miss Muffet was driven away by a spider. But Peter Parker got his Spiderman superpowers from one. Somewhere between the nursery rhyme and Marvel Comics, spiders became both creatures to fear and creatures to envy.

From intricate spider webs and extraordinary hunting techniques to venom and sensory systems that help spiders navigate their world, these arachnids are far more complex than their creepy-crawly reputation suggests.

Host Helen Hong explores the surprising science of spiders with wildlife biologist Miguel Ordeñana and Dr. Eda Gorbis, an expert in phobias. Together, they investigate spider biology, arachnid behavior, and the psychology behind arachnophobia, uncovering the fascinating differences between what spiders actually do and what humans imagine they're capable of.

How do spiders build webs, detect vibrations, and capture prey? What distinguishes web-building spiders from active hunters? How do spider venom, silk production, and specialized adaptations help different species survive? And why do so many people experience an instinctive or overwhelming fear of spiders, even when the animal poses little threat?

We bring wildlife biology and psychology together to look beyond the myths surrounding spiders and understand their real role in the natural world.

Forget what you think you know. It's time to look at spiders differently.

Subscribe to Framed by Fables for fascinating conversations about wildlife, animal behavior, biology, natural history, myths, folklore, and pop culture. We separate fact from fiction to discover the extraordinary science behind the animals that share our world.

Explore more at https://www.framedbyfables.com/.

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Information on anxiety disorders: https://hope4ocd.com/

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Credits

Host: Helen Hong

Animal Expert: Wildlife Biologist Miguel Ordeñana

Guest: Eda Gorbis, PhD, LMFT, Director/Founder of the Westwood Institute for Anxiety Disorders

Creator and Exec Producer: Robin M. Henry

Producer: Emily Orr

Casting Producer: Robin Foster

Line Producer: James Lovewell

Editor: David Toms

Ad Manager: Brandon Carrillo

Set Artwork and Logo: Cliff Barrett

Special Thanks: Second Floor Studios

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What do Bugs Bunny, the Easter Bunny, Playboy, the Tortoise and the Hare, and pregnancy tests have in common?

More than you might think.

Helen Hong goes down the rabbit hole with Candace Frazee and Steve Lubanski, founders of The Bunny Museum, and wildlife biologist Miguel Ordeñana to explore the surprisingly strange world of rabbits. We get into the stories, characters, traditions and cultural associations that made rabbits such a familiar part of our lives, while also digging into the real animals behind them.

What do real rabbits actually do? How do they behave? What makes their anatomy and biology so fascinating? And why have rabbits become connected to everything from Bugs Bunny and Easter to Playboy, fertility and pregnancy testing?

It's funny, unexpected, occasionally very weird, and a reminder that there's usually a much bigger story hiding inside the things we think we already know.

Start with what you know. Discover what you don't.

Subscribe to Framed by Fables for more funny, surprising dives into the animals hiding underneath the stories, myths, history and pop culture we think we already know.

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The Bunny Museum https://www.thebunnymuseum.com/

To donate to help rebuild the museum: http://gofund.me/76de9673

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Credits

Host: Helen Hong

Animal Expert: Wildlife Biologist Miguel Ordeñana, Natural History Museum LA County.

Guests: Candace Frazee and Steve Lubanski, founders of The Bunny Museum in Altadena, CA.

Creator and Exec Producer: Robin M. Henry

Producer: Emily Orr

Casting Producer: Robin Foster

Line Producer: James Lovewell

Editor: David Toms

Set Artwork: Cliff Barrett

Special Thanks: Second Floor Studio

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Are donkeys really dumb, stubborn animals? Or did Aesop just give them that reputation? From ancient fables to Jackass, we take a look at how the donkey became the butt of the joke and why the joke may be on us.

Comedian Helen Hong and zoologist Jo Wimpenny welcome Alex Winter, known for his starring role in the Bill & Ted franchise, for a deep dive into the donkey’s surprising history and intelligence.

Resources:

Alex Winter's latest films

Trailer for Primetime, out Sept 25, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fHXyqQOKL8

Trailer for Adulthood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rutRDICG2oE

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Credits

Host: Helen Hong

Animal Expert: Zoologist Jo Wimpenny

Guest: Alex Winter, actor-director

Exec Producers: Robin M. Henry, Aaron Mervis

Producer: Emily Orr

Line Producer: James Lovewell

Editor: David Toms

Set Artwork: Cliff Barrett

Special Thanks: Second Floor Studio

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For many, Wile E. Coyote is the only coyote we know. But how much is he like a real coyote? The answers may surprise you.

With Coyote vs. Acme finally out, comedian Helen Hong and wildlife biologist Miguel Ordeñana welcome iconic Looney Tunes voice actor Eric Bauza back to Framed by Fables to help delve into the cartoon history, the movie and the science facts.

Do coyotes chase roadrunners? Are they really that persistent? Would they use Acme to hunt if they could? Plus Miguel introduces a surprise animal that might help Wile E. out a lot more than Acme ever could.

And, of course, we are treated with Eric's incredible voices along the way.

This is an episode you gotta catch Beep! Beep!

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Credits

Host: Helen Hong

Animal Expert: Wildlife Biologist Miguel Ordeñana, from the Natural History Museum LA County.

Guest: Eric Bauza, Looney Tunes voice actor

Exec Producers: Robin M. Henry, Aaron Mervis

Producer: Emily Orr

Line Producer: James Lovewell

Editor: David Toms

Set Artwork: Cliff Barrett

Special Thanks: Second Floor Studio

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Are owls really the wise birds of lore or did they just get that reputation from their association with Athena? We dig into what’s fact and what’s fiction when it comes to these fascinating birds. Kirsten Vangsness, who plays brainy tech-kitten Penelope Garcia in the Criminal Minds franchise, joins us for a deep dive into all things owl. And joining us for the first time in the co-host chair is Wildlife Biologist Miguel Ordeñana, from the Natural History Museum LA County. He dishes up some surprising owl facts and shows off a pretty impressive owl call.

Resources mentioned:

PBS documenatry: Coyote Crossing

PBS documentary: Shared Planet

Natural History Museum of LA community science program

Playful Spotify Owl playlist to complement the episode:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5RSqIjjfbWwpEtCLjsnPaG?si=09iTrNVSTvGC3Yqx25FvjQ

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Credits

Host: Helen Hong

Animal Expert: Wildlife Biologist Miguel Ordeñana, from the Natural History Museum LA County.

Guest: Kirsten Vangsness, who plays Criminal Minds Penelope Garcia

Exec Producers: Robin M. Henry, Aaron Mervis

Producer: Emily Orr

Line Producer: James Lovewell

Editor: David Toms

Set Artwork: Cliff Barrett

Special Thanks: Second Floor Studios

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"The birds and bees" means sex? Really? We uncover the strange story behind this famous euphemism, explore how birds and bees actually do it, and ask whether they were really the right creatures for the job. Along the way, Dr. Cara Natterson, author, pediatrician and puberty expert, helps us unpack the history of “the talk” and shares how parents and loved ones can have more honest, comfortable conversations with kids about puberty and sex (with or without birds and bees)!

Credits

Host: Helen Hong

Animal Expert: Zoologist Dr. Jo Wimpenny

Guest: Dr. Cara Natterson, founder and CEO of Less Awkward https://lessawkward.com/

Exec Producers: Robin M. Henry, Aaron Mervis

Producer: Emily Orr

Line Producer: James Lovewell

Editor: David Toms

Artwork: Cliff Barrett

Special Thanks: Second Floor Studios

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Wolves have been cast as villains for centuries, but does the science back it up? In this episode, Comedian Helen Hong and Zoologist Dr. Jo Wimpenny are joined by Teen Wolf's Melissa Ponzio aka Mama McCall to dig into the biology, folklore, and pop‑culture PR disaster that turned a perfectly normal predator into the Big Bad Wolf.

Then Dr. Wimpenny offers a surprising creature that might really be a "wolf in sheep's clothing."

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Credits
Host: Helen Hong

Animal Expert: Zoologist Dr. Jo Wimpenny
Guest: Melissa Ponzio

Exec Producers: Robin M. Henry, Aaron Mervis

Producer: Emily Orr

Line Producer: James Lovewell

Editor: Alex Ivany

Artwork: Cliff Barrett

Special Thanks: Second Floor Studios

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From the biblical serpent who supposedly got us kicked out of Eden to Hollywood’s endless snake pits and slithering sidekicks, snakes have carried the “evil” label longer than any other animal. In this episode of Framed by Fables, we dig into how that reputation took hold and what real snakes are actually like.

Comedian Helen Hong and Zoologist Dr. Jo Wimpenny are joined by Hollywood Snake Wrangler Jules Sylvester, the man behind the serpents in Indiana Jones, Snakes on a Plane, and dozens of other films. Together, they unpack the myths, the science, and the pop‑culture portrayals that turned snakes into storytelling’s OG villains.

But here’s the real plot twist: Once snakes get their long‑overdue PR makeover, Jo talks about another animal that actually does have some questionable behaviors (at least in human terms!) Which one it is may surprise you!

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Credits

Host: Helen Hong

Animal Expert: Dr. Jo Wimpenny
Guest: Jules Sylvester

Exec Producers: Robin M. Henry, Aaron Mervis

Producer: Emily Orr

Line Producer: James Lovewell

Editor: Alex Ivany

Artwork: Cliff Barrett

End Card Music: Wolves of Glendale "I'm a Reptile Guy"

Special Thanks: Second Floor Studios

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Why do pigs get stuck with all the worst labels? From idioms like “greedy pig,” “filthy pig,” and “pigging out” to the political satire of Animal Farm, pigs have been cast as gluttons, mess-makers, for centuries. In our first full episode of Framed by Fables, we dig into how these ideas took hold and what real pigs are actually like.

Comedian Helen Hong and Zoologist Dr. Jo Wimpenny are joined by Eric Bauza, the Emmy‑winning voice actor behind Looney Tunes’ Porky Pig, Daffy Duck, Bugs Bunny, and more. Together, they unpack the history, the science, and the pop‑culture portrayals that shaped pigs’ reputation, all with a comedic twist.

And stick around because once pigs are cleared, Jo reveals which animals actually deserve the “dirty,” “greedy,” or “gluttonous” labels. The real culprits will surprise you.

👉 Follow the show so you never miss an episode — and share it with a friend who loves animals, fairy tales, or pop culture.

Credits
Host: Helen Hong

Animal Expert: Zoologist Dr. Jo Wimpenny

Guest: Eric Bauza

Exec Producers: Robin M. Henry, Aaron Mervis

Producer: Emily Orr

Editor: Alex Ivany
Artwork: Cliff Barrett

And Special Thanks to Second Floor Studios and Charlotte Lee

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We all think we know animals. The Big Bad Wolf. Bugs Bunny. The Three Little Pigs. But how much of what we know comes from the stories we’ve been telling about them?

We all think we know animals. The Big Bad Wolf. Bugs Bunny. The Three Little Pigs. But how much of what we know comes from the stories we've been telling about them?

Framed by Fables is a comedy and zoology podcast hosted by comedian Helen Hong, alongside a wildlife expert, with a special guest joining every episode. Together, they explore the animals behind pop culture, folklore, fairy tales, movies, and history, putting familiar myths and stereotypes to the test with real animal science.

This short promo gives you a taste of the show's playful tone, unexpected connections, and the conversations that happen when comedy meets zoology.

No previews. No spoilers. Just a taste of what's coming.

Follow Framed by Fables and join us for a very different kind of animal story.