Graceful Atheist Podcast

Susan Huckle is a comedian and author of The Earth Is Flat?! And other things my mother told me. She grew up in an evangelical home, experienced peak purity culture. Later in life her parents began to believe conspiracy theories including a flat Earth. She tells her story with comedy, join and poignancy.

Susan Huckle is an actor in Los Angeles, but that wasn’t self-indulgent enough, so she wrote a memoir. She grew up in Santa Maria, CA, and earned her B.A. in Journalism and Dramatic Art from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, as well as a Master of Sustainable Tourism from Arizona State University. Her TV credits include Jane the Virgin, The Mindy Project, Nickelodeon shows, and hosting L.A. This Week for the city of L.A.

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Matt Sanderson is the author of I Wonder: Notes on Spirituality without the Supernatural. My conversation with Matt is poignant and vulnerable touching on his loss of faith, the loss of his mother and his search for meaning without dogma and the supernatural.

Matt tells us his faith journey from an atheist upbringing into evangelical/charismatic Christianity, drawn by community and an intense prayer experience, then later unraveling beliefs after being challenged, doubling down, and gradually deconverting through wider reading (philosophy, neuroscience) without a dramatic exit. Matt explains the book began as an attempt to sort through accumulated ideas, intensified after his mother’s death and his reflections on grief without belief in an afterlife. He discusses religious experiences as common human phenomena (via William James), religion’s techniques for evoking awe, non-reductionism, meaning as created (influenced by Viktor Frankl), the value and challenges of secular community, and joy/comedy as truth-telling. He frames wonder as both questioning and awe.

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https://mattsanderson1.substack.com

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Author Stella McCormick has written a powerful memoir, Deliver Us From Mother: Faith, Fear, and the Family Cult That Broke Me. The story she tells in the book and shares with us on the podcast is one of surviving a single family cult, purity culture, sexual assault and desconstruction.

Stella is more than a survivor. She has thrived. Today she is a sexual assault advocate for the Army where she helps other victims of sexual assault process their experience.

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Karis Burkowski and ​David Fitzgerald have written an amazing book called Clearly Written by Boys: A Woman’s Guide to the Bible. The book takes this question seriously:

What if women mattered, really mattered, to the authors that wrote our Bible? Not just the queens and concubines, harlots and handmaidens, and barren women in need of a son’s miraculous birth; not just the unnamed mothers, wives and daughters; but all women?

Clearly Written for Boys is a book about the Bible, and Christianity, and the problematic relationship both have had with women throughout their histories. Karis and David come from Christian backgrounds and are “cleaning up their own house.”

Join me in hearing from these two amazing authors and the critical message they have about women in Biblical history and for women of today.

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Steve Ghikadis is the author of Humanism From the Heart: Building Bridges Beyond Belief.

Steve Ghikadis is a Humanist Officiant, who conducts secular marriages, memorials, and many more meaningful life-affirming celebrations.

Raised as a freethinker, Steve has been married to a Christian for over a decade. He and his wife, Cindy, believe in the importance of bridging the gap between believers and non-believers. Their two young children are being raised in an interfaith household and are free to choose their own path.

He serves as an Ambassador for Humanist Canada, Recovering from Religion, and Sunday Assembly.

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Website:

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Julia tells her story of deconstructing the Jehovah's Witnesses and the expected life of suburbia.

Julia was torn between two grandmothers: an evangelical and a Jehovah's Witness. She became a Jehovah's Witness and was all in. She got married and had kids and supported her husband who was an elder. That is when the boredom set it. She wanted more, she wanted to travel and be a need-greater. Before they were to leave to Ecuador, her husband tragically died of cancer refusing blood transfusions along the way.

Julia's life became messy as she started a long process of deconstruction. This included low-lights like having her children tell on her to the elders. And highlights going out on her own to travel and meet people's needs with out dogma.

Today Julia is free. She kayaks, bikes and travels internationally. She says "I wake up every day thinking, 'I love this world, and I love this life.'"

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The Consciousness Delusion

In this solo episode I discuss Artificial Intelligence. Should we agree with Richard Dawkins that Claude is conscious? Probably not, for several reasons. I talk about how LLMs work, why I don't think they are conscious and how a humanist should respond.

Topics:

• (Semi) Technical description of how Large Language Models work
• LLMs are trained on the sum total of human hopes and fears
• Why all the intelligence in AI systems is from human sources
• Why I do not believe LLMs can be conscious in principle
• The Hype problem
• The Humanistic response to AI

Links

Show notes

https://gracefulatheist.com/2026/06/07/humanism-and-ai/

Here are several source material links from my research for this episode:

• When Dawkins met Claude Could this AI be conscious?
• https://unherd.com/2026/05/is-ai-the-next-phase-of-evolution/?edition=us
• ELIZA and the missing secretary
• https://theconversation.com/my-search-for-the-mysterious-missing-secretary-who-shaped-chatbot-history-225602
• Alan Turing and the Turing test
• https://academic.oup.com/mind/article/LIX/236/433/986238?login=false
• Metaphors for how the brain works
• https://mechanism.ucsd.edu/bill/teaching/w14/phil151/metaphorsandconceptionsofbrain.pdf
• Alison Gopnik on Sean Carroll’s pdocast
• https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2025/03/17/308-alison-gopnik-on-children-ai-and-modes-of-thinking/
• Neil deGrasse Tyson on the Late Show with Steven Colbert
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qon72VKH30
• AI as normal technology
• https://knightcolumbia.org/content/ai-as-normal-technology

Counter points to my argumetns on LLMs:

• Are LLMs conscious?
• https://preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2026/08/10/363-chandra-sripada-on-how-llms-and-humans-are-cognitive-cousins/
• Do LLMs plan?
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=locKEKxG3os

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Liam is a friend and a colleague of many years. He is a member of the Religious Society of Friends often called Quakers. Liam and I have shared deep conversations before and after my deconversion. I respect the way Liam holds and lives out his beliefs.

You might be surprised. The British Liberal Quakerism Liam lives out on a daily basis is very close to my version of Humanism, Secular Grace. He is a great example of a religious humanist who cares about people over dogma.

Links

Quakers in Britain: https://www.quaker.org.uk/

Quaker Faith: https://www.quaker.org.uk/faith/read-about-quaker-faith

Quakers in USA: https://www.fgcquaker.org/

American Friends Service Committee (Charity): https://afsc.org/

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I recently read Antimemetics: Why Some Ideas Resist Spreading by Nadia Asparouhova and it blew my mind. Just reading the intro I knew I needed to do an episode on the subject. Almost everything about deconstruction and deconversion is antimememetic. It is a significant idea that resists spreading. Listen to the episode to find out how.

All of the following are antimemetic:

• Doubt
• Deconstruction
• Deconversion
• Atheism
• Humanism
• Secular Grace

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https://gracefulatheist.com/2026/05/03/doubt-is-antimemetic/

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Mark Anthony Diaz is the author of Reedkeeper's Journey and one of my best friends. Mark and I grew up together. We had the same sarcastic friend group in high school. We did ministry together. Crucially, Mark stuck with me after my deconversion.

Mark is a person of deep conviction, and while he's a talented EMT, author, and podcaster, it's his personal journey that truly resonates. Growing up with severe asthma made for a challenging childhood, but Mark's story is one of overcoming.

Mark is very much a believer and I respect Mark's faith. Mark lives up to the honesty contest ethos of the podcast. I wanted to have him share his life's story with us because I believe every human being's story is powerful.

Search for his serial podcast "Readkeeper's Journey" wherever you get your podcasts.

Links

Read Keeper's Journey: The only way back is forward

https://www.reedkeeper.com/

Apple:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reedkeepers-journey/id1529380366

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https://open.spotify.com/show/5echbOBs2MXtlHolNMe0rz?si=e06f0385c8d94cad

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Welcome back Colin Ryan, author, storyteller, comedian and survivor of Bipolar 2, OCD and ADHD. Colin has written Epic Tiny Victories: A hopeful story about depression anxiety and reframing your life. It is hilarious, honest and poignant.

Colin describes in the book growing up Evangelical, purity culture and his deconstruction process.

Join us as we catch up on where Colin's deconstruction journey is at. We discuss his mental health journey. Colin tells stories from the book.

Get Epic Tiny Victories today.

Links

http://www.epictinyvictories.com/

https://www.colinryanspeaks.com/

2020 Deconversion Anonymous episode of GAP
https://gracefulatheist.com/2020/11/29/colin-deconversion-anonymous/

Chapters

00:00 Graceful Atheist Podcast Intro
01:36 Welcome back Colin Ryan
03:50 Deconstruction Journey since 2020
15:27 Epic Tiny Victories and we were all 11
29:44 Impact of therapy on Colin's Life
47:49 Mental Health takes work
52:36 The book process and how to get ETV
64:40 Final thoughts on the episode
66:43 Secular Grace thought of the Week

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Reflections on ten years of deconversion. I re-tell my deconversion story and reflect on what has changed and what has stayed the same.

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Apostate: Stories of Deconversion

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Mathew Taylor, co-host of Still Unbelievable!, returns to the podcast to discuss why we podcast.Links

Matthew on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/vteclimey

Confessions of a YEC blog:
https://confessionsofayec.wordpress.com/

"God takes the good people early" post:
https://confessionsofayec.wordpress.com/2012/03/08/god-takes-the-good-people-early/

Reason Press:
https://reasonpress.net/

"Still Unbelievable!" the book:
https://reasonpress.net/SU1EPodcasts:

Still Unbelievable!
https://anchor.fm/still-unbelievable

Ask An Atheist Anything
https://anchor.fm/reasonpress

Previous episode
https://gracefulatheist.com/2019/06/20/matthew-taylor-confessions-of-a-young-earth-creationist/

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Deconstruction
https://gracefulatheist.com/2017/12/03/deconversion-how-to/#deconstruction/

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This week's guest is Sara. Sara grew up in a Canadian Mennonite community and embraced it wholeheartedly. She was surrounded by evangelical Christianity and she thrived.

As a young adult, she married and followed her husband into ministry. While he led, she helped as was expected of her. It didn't occur to her until years later how little her own leadership skills had to be set aside.

Sara's husband started deconstructing his beliefs before she did, but as he was learning, she was also learning. Years later, she knew he'd become an atheist before he did.

It wasn't easy, but they made space for one another to learn and grow and move down their own paths. Today, Sara is a spiritual director for others and doesn't have a specific label for herself, and it works just fine.

"There's a whole host of ways of being in the world…"

Links

Sara's website
https://prairiethistle.ca/

Facebook
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Deconstruction
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This week's guest is Beth. Beth grew up in a fundamentalist Christian home that revered James Dobson, Jerry Falwell and all those who created the "Moral Majority." Her father was a pastor whose sermons centered on the End Times and protecting their families from the "shifting culture," (read: all the movements happening in the 60's and 70's).

As a teen, she lived a double life, keeping plenty of secrets from her parents. However, as a young adult, followed all the rules with the expectation that the "umbrella of God's protection" would take care of her. It didn't.

It took decades of trying to do what was "right" and watching the promises of the Church come to naught before she finally took the leap out of Christianity. She now identifies as SBNR—spiritual but not religious. Beth is now able to trust her own judgment and make decisions that are best for her. No "umbrella of protection" needed.

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Deconversion
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Deconstruction
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Arline interviews this week's guest, Andrew. Andrew is a self-named atheist "paleo-nerd." He grew up home-schooled in a fundamentalist church in southern California. His whole schooling was religious and that included Young Earth Creationism.

In high school, Andrew struggled with his shy nature and some depressive episodes. The church didn't seem to have room for people like him. As a young adult, finally making his own decisions and living a life without fundamentalism everywhere, Andrew saw how much he could accomplish on his own. He had had the resources inside him but hadn't known it.

Now, as an atheist, he's figuring out what life looks like for himself. It includes a wife and kids, online friends, lots of dinosaurs, and a happiness that isn't perfect or perpetual but is enough.

Links

Dino Dad Reviews
https://dinodadreviews.com/

Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/dinodadreviews/

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Deconstruction
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Arline interviews this week's guest, Racquelle. Racquelle grew up in Canada in the Seventh Day Adventist church. Conspiracy theories were common in her household. Some of them she bought into.

Throughout her life she went through periods of doubt but something kept bringing her back to Church. A sense of obligation and expectation never left her.

Eventually, Racquelle deconverted from her faith and deconstructed the conspiracy theories. She now has an interesting perspective on the deconstruction process.

Links

Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/racquelle.pilon

Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/racquelle_p/

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Deconstruction
https://gracefulatheist.com/2017/12/03/deconversion-how-to/#deconstruction/

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Arline interviews this week's guest, Andy Neal of Andy Films And Hikes fame. He is self described as a "plus size hiking influencer."

Andy tells his story of deconstruction, acceptance of his body and his joy in nature. He is an inspiration to all to get outdoors and experience nature.

Links

Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/andyfilmsandhikes/

Link Tree
https://linktr.ee/AndyNeal
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Natalie from New Zealand tells Arlene here story. She grew up Pentecostal participating in church. In her young adulthood she converted to Mormonism.

She saw that as woman her role was limited and was finding it difficult to accept the church's perspective on LGBQT issues.

Eventually Natalie deconverted. She is thankful for her kids' sake who later came out as queer. Natalie now finds time in nature and the forest life giving.
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Jeff grew up in his words "a very religious household." He attended a large Southern Baptist church.

In college he fell in love with the seriousness of Calvinism after reading John Piper's Desiring God. He left seminary early to become a minster because he felt time pressure to be "on mission" for God.

After three pastors he knew committed suicide in one year, Jeff began to deconstruct.

Today he is agnostic and finds therapy and mindfulness helpful in his life.

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