HardLore

Hello, welcome back! We’re joined by legendary punk/hardcore pioneer KEITH MORRIS, co-founder of Black Flag and the band that the second half of this historic conversation focuses on: THE CIRCLE JERKS.

We talk their iconic debut LP GROUP SEX, it’s timeless follow up Wild In The Streets, the Decline of Western Civilization documentary being a business card for the band moving forward, their appearance in the cult classic Repo Man, their constant battle with the Bad Religion schedule, Keith’s appearance in Grand Theft Auto V and MUCH more.

Thank you again to Keith and my very special guest co-host Anthony Anzaldo of Ceremony for joining us for a true landmark pair of episodes.

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.

Shot, edited and mixed by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Steven Grise⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Title sequence by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:37 - THE CIRCLE JERKS

00:17:28 - Group Sex

00:23:18 - Beverly Hills (and Century City)

00:27:17 - World Up My Ass

00:33:44 - Back Against the Wall

00:35:35 - Paid Vacation & Circle Jerks' Writing Dynamic

00:37:15 - Decline of Western Civilization

00:43:24 - Earliest Circle Jerks Tours, John Belushi & Negative

Approach

00:46:07 - Negative Approach

00:50:13 - Paradigm Shifting Punk Bands Over Time

00:54:01 - WILD IN THE STREETS

01:02:49 - Stars and Stripes (hard pit)

01:05:02 - Touring On Wild In The Streets

01:09:47 - Keith's Thoughts on Warped Tour

01:15:32 - Keith's Thoughts on Touring Europe

01:16:58 - Touring In Europe Today For Circle Jerks

01:18:42 - Dissecting Golden Shower, Wonderful & VI

01:23:55 - Repo Man

01:30:38 - LAPD At War With Punks

01:36:45 - Circle Jerks Break Up in 1989

01:39:52 - GTA V Music

01:46:05 - FLAG (and the legal ramifications)

01:57:22 - Rapid Fire: Keith Morris Edition

No need to have a nervous breakdown, we've finally got the legendary KEITH MORRIS on HardLore, one of the founding fathers of hardcore music.

In part 1 of this incredible 4+ hour two-part special, we start at the beginning with Keith's introduction to music (he's a big fan) and deep dive into starting Panic (eventually known as BLACK FLAG) with Greg Ginn, what early punk rock was like in the South Bay and greater LA area in the late 70s, how Black Flag finally became Black Flag, recruiting the rest of the band, the incomparable artistic contributions of the great Raymond Pettibon, recording NERVOUS BREAKDOWN (and re-recording most of it with Circle Jerks), why and how he ultimately left the band, and so much more...

Thanks to my incredible co-host Anthony Anzaldo of Ceremony for the fantastic assist and great questions/insight as always.

Next week we pick up right where we leave off, with the beginning of the Circle Jerks... Grab a copy of Circle Jerks - Revenge of Nervous Breakdown, their first recording in 30 years, while you still can: https://linktr.ee/circlejerks

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:47 - Keith Morris

00:08:46 - Keith Loves Music

00:19:53 - Meeting Greg Ginn (Keith Loves Music Cont.)

00:30:40 - Panic Forming (Black Flag) and the MANY Early Members

00:43:46 - Becoming a REAL Band (Chuck The Duke)

00:46:59 - Robo, Cocaine & Punk Developing in Real Time

00:58:29 - Black Flag Becoming Black Flag

01:05:05 - Nervous Breakdown

01:09:35 - Keith Leaving Black Flag

01:12:12 - The Public's Response to Nervous Breakdown

01:27:44 - The Black Flag Bars

01:31:55 - SST & It's Residual Effects

01:36:17 - Keith Leaving Black Flag

01:39:59 - Circle Jerks Re-Recording Nervous Breakdown

01:46:40 - Why Depression, Nervous Breakdown, Fix Me & Revenge?

01:49:20 - Henry Rollins Black Flag

01:53:14 - Everything Went Black, The Germs, Darby Crash

01:57:03 - Have Keith & Greg Reconnected?

This week we’re joined by Andrew Kline, co-founder and guitarist of one of California hardcore’s most important bands: STRIFE.

We dive into the many fateful encounters that had to happen for the band to start in the beginning of the 90s to usher in a new era and new generation of straight edge hardcore. Strife, along with Earth Crisis and Snapcase were eventually considered the original “Victory Records Trinity” and set the standard for what a hardcore band could do worldwide in the mid to late 90s.

We break down their entire discography, including their breakout debut One Truth and their decade-defining masterpiece In This Defiance — all the way up until their breakup and eventual return (and misunderstood statement about no longer being straight edge) in the 2000s.

An incredibly insightful and fascinating window into what is now an underrated band, but one that has seen what the top of the mountain of hardcore music has to offer.

Check out HardLore's very own ⁠PLAN X RECORDS!⁠ A brand new home for straight edge hardcore. Debut release announced on Edge Day.

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:49 - Andrew Kline

00:09:34 - Finding Hardcore

00:19:57 - The Long, Beautiful Story of How Strife Begins

00:32:13 - xStand As Onex

00:42:20 - The Early Days of Strife

00:53:51 - Plan X Records & Guilty Party

00:56:25 - Victory Records & The Only The Strong Compilation

01:03:22 - ONE TRUTH

01:09:46 - Touring Relentlessly & Sick of it All

01:31:01 - Strife As A Career & The Birth of Today's Hardcore Economy

01:45:19 - Gearing Up for In This Defiance & Meeting Sepultura

01:56:41 - IN THIS DEFIANCE

02:01:09 - Blistered

02:15:09 - Strife Breaking Edge and Breaking Hearts

02:25:27 - In This Defiance & It's Impact on Victory

02:33:34 - Touring Killed Strife

02:40:02 - Bringing Back Strife (Angermeans)

03:03:11 - Rapid Fire: Strife Edition

03:08:17 - Top 4 Hardcore Records

Hello welcome! Decided to take a minute this week to reflect on the last 4 and a half years of the show and do a little deep dive into what are, in my opinion, our top 10 most important episodes. "Important" meaning episodes that we talked about often that felt like game changers in different ways: Creative growth, audience growth, and personal growth.

I'm sure many will feel different and have their own picks, but these are the ones that I believe Bo and I would both would have picked. Hope you enjoy this unique solo deep dive before we post back to back to back episodes of pure HEAT coming up.

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.

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00:00 - Start

02:20 - Honorable Mentions

16:57 - Number 10: HauntLore Salem (With Kurt Ballou)

19:53 - Number 9: Justice Tripp (Trapped Under Ice/Angel Du$t)

23:09 - Number 8: Bryan Garris (Knocked Loose)

26:16 - Number 7: Fast Food Tier List

30:39 - Number 6: Vinnie Stigma (Agnostic Front)

34:49 - Number 5: HardLore Jeopardy

39:00 - Number 4: Jamey Jasta (Hatebreed)

41:07 - Number 3: Parris Mayhew (Cro-Mags)

46:21 - Number 2: Davey Havok (AFI)

51:57 - Number 1...

Let the chaos begin... In March of this year, Bo and I had an idea to let the viewers decide on our next bracket episode (since you're never happy with the bands we pick) and this was the result. The top 64 bands, as voted by YOU! Every matchup was random in our first ever truly unpredictable live tournament challenge.

I'm joined by Joey Chiaramonte from Koyo, alongside Alec Faber & Taylor Young from Twitching Tongues/God's Hate to determine a winner in real time in our first ever in-person bracket episode.

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.

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Title sequence by ⁠⁠⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠⁠⁠

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:51 - The Chaos Begins...

00:02:37 - Deftones vs. Ween

00:04:06 - Snapcase vs. Gallows

00:05:59 - Haywire vs. Title Fight

00:07:01 - Converge vs. Fall Out Boy

00:08:09 - Drug Church vs. Blacklisted

00:09:14 - Black Breath vs. Propaghandi

00:10:48 - Arkangel vs. Bolt Thrower

00:12:09 - The Acacia Strain vs. Poison Idea

00:13:13 - 7A7P vs. Mastodon

00:14:07 - The Cure vs. Paramore

00:16:11 - ETID vs. Meshuggah

00:19:38 - Section 8 vs. Bad Religion

00:20:41 - Power Trip vs. Neglect

00:22:22 - AFI vs. Death

00:24:26 - Lifetime vs. Jimmy Eat World

00:25:21 - Refused vs. Weird Al Yankovich

00:27:10 - Steeley Dan vs. Candlemass

00:28:15 - The Animals vs. On Broken Wings

00:30:35 - Alice In Chains vs. Eighteen Visions

00:32:16 - Alkaline Trio vs. Primus

00:34:13 - Tool vs. Poison The Well

00:36:29 - Candiria vs. Fight Everyone

00:37:24 - Skinless vs. The Rival Mob

00:39:11 - Mindsnare vs. Oasis

00:40:10 - Thrice vs. NOFX

00:41:35 - Rush vs. Hum

00:43:19 - Dillinger Escape Plan vs. Shai Hulud

00:43:26 - 1975 vs. The Smiths

00:45:19 - Mills Vintage vs. Timeless Coffee

00:47:24 - Tragedy vs. Neurosis

00:48:36 - The Beatles vs. 108

00:49:24 - Thin Lizzy vs. Botch

00:50:31 - Glassjaw vs. Nile

00:53:30 - Ween vs. Snapcase

00:54:03 - Title Fight vs. Converge

00:55:35 - Black Breath vs. Blacklisted

00:57:55 - Bolt Thrower vs. Poison Idea

01:01:13 - Mastodon vs. The Cure

01:01:25 - ETID vs. Bad Religion

01:02:32 - Neglect vs. AFI

01:03:17 - Jimmy Eat World vs. Weird Al

01:04:06 - Candlemass vs. The Animals

01:04:52 - Alice in Chains vs. Primus

01:06:12 - Tool vs. Candiria

01:07:11 - NOFX vs. Hum

01:07:27 - Dillinger Escape Plan vs. The Smiths

01:07:33 - Neurosis vs. The Beatles

01:08:39 - Glassjaw vs. Thin Lizzy

01:09:44 - Ween vs. Converge

01:10:06 - Black Breath vs. Poison Idea

01:10:30 - The Cure vs. Bad Religion

01:11:25 - AFI vs. Jimmy Eat World

01:15:12 - Candlemass vs. Alice in Chains

01:16:23 - Candiria vs. Oasis

01:18:29 - Hum vs. The Smiths

01:19:54 - Neurosis vs. Thin Lizzy

01:20:52 - Converge vs. Poison Idea

01:22:17 - The Cure vs. AFI

01:23:46 - Candlemass vs. Oasis

01:26:27 - The Smiths vs. Neurosis

01:30:45 - Converge vs. AFI

01:32:03 - Oasis vs.The Smiths

01:32:26 - FINALS

This week we're joined by vocalist Ross Farrar & guitarist Anthony Anzaldo of the great CEREMONY...

From childhood friends to lifelong bandmates, we learn all about their individual introductions to punk and hardcore music and how that eventually lead to the fateful formation of now legendary bay area hardcore band, Ceremony.

From the aggressive hardcore origins of their demo, first 7", and first 2 LPs, to their first big evolution and breakout Rohnert Park, all the way to their newest (and possibly best) album Tell Me Your Dream, we discuss everything in between, and the many "Gauntlets" in between that got us here.

A thoroughly fun, fascinating inside look at what is truly one of the defining underground bands of the last 20+ years. Enjoy this monumental 3 hour chat.

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00:00:00 - Start

00:02:00 - CEREMONY

00:04:52 - Rohnert Park, California

00:12:46 - Ross & Anthony's First Bands (Hammer Time)

00:17:31 - The Origin of Ceremony

00:28:39 - RUINED 7"

00:43:17 - VIOLENCE VIOLENCE

01:01:14 - Pardon This Interruption...

01:03:27 - SCARED PEOPLE EP, Signing to Bridge Nine

01:12:28 - STILL NOTHING MOVES YOU

01:23:15 - ROHNERT PARK

01:38:39 - Rohnert Park Live at the Hollywood Palladium

01:46:14 - Signing to Matador

01:50:43 - The List of Every Ceremony Show Ever

01:53:02 - ZOO

02:10:08 - THE L-SHAPED MAN

02:14:58 - Ross Goes Back To School

02:19:43 - Reception To L-Shaped Man

02:30:21 - Relapse Records & IN THE SPIRIT WORLD NOW

02:39:18 - How Ceremony Handled 2020, Almost Breaking Up

02:43:16 - TELL ME YOUR DREAM (CEREMONY'S BEST RECORD?)

02:58:01 - Misconceptions of Ceremony

03:05:00 - Top 4 Hardcore Records

This is easily one of the best conversations to ever happen on this show.

We stopped by Trust Records HQ for this incredible chat the great Sammy Siegler, one of hardcore's most prolific drummers to ever grace the throne.

We dive into Sammy's origin as the Godfather of Open Handed Lefty drummers in hardcore, his brief stint in Gorilla Biscuits, joining Side By Side at 11-12 years old, the Project X 7", joining Youth of Today as a longtime fan of the band, ALL things Judge, Chung King and Bringin' It Down and his later work in CIV, Rival Schools, Glassjaw and somehow Limp Bizkit of all things.

We're appropriately joined by my main man Mike Cesario of Twitching Tongues, Disgrace, Pity Sex, Forced Order and more to round out this mini panel of unique drummers.

Thanks to Sammy for joining us and sharing so much lore about so many great bands and records. Enjoy!!!

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Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf

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00:00:00 - Start

00:03:27 - Discovering Hardcore & Drumming in '80s NYC

00:11:14 - Finding Straight Edge

00:18:11 - GORILLA BISCUITS

00:23:14 - SIDE BY SIDE

00:33:23 - You're Only Young Once

00:38:46 - The Spirit of 1988

00:43:51 - The Way It Is Compilation / Side By Side Reunion

00:47:17 - Pardon This Interruption...

00:50:14 - PROJECT X

00:58:24 - YOUTH OF TODAY

01:02:39 - We're Not In This Alone

01:13:58 - Youth Crew

01:19:41 - We're Not In This Alone Tour

01:27:27 - Youth of Today Breaking Up

01:28:44 - JUDGE

01:33:01 - The Earliest Version of "Metallic Hardcore"

01:38:51 - Chung King Can Suck It

01:47:16 - Bringin' It Down, There Will Be Quiet, The End of Judge

01:52:12 - Judge Covering Led Zeppelin

01:58:05 - Sammy's First Heartbreaking Edgebreak

02:03:39 - Disengage

02:07:53 - Breaking Edge & SHELTER

02:23:41 - GLASSJAW

02:32:08 - LIMP BIZKIT??? (and RIVAL SCHOOLS)

02:43:26 - The Knicks

02:45:19 - Moshing

02:47:59 - Sammy's Unexpected Influences

02:50:11 - What Recording Represents Sammy the Most?

02:55:44 - Top 4 Hardcore Records

02:59:05 - DRUM TALK

Rest in peace to the universally beloved Andy "The Butcher" Williams of Every Time I Die, Atomic Rule and All Elite Wrestling. When it comes to leading by example, Andy was THE ultimate example to follow from the moment you met him. A beacon of kindness, the benchmark of cool, and an unbreakable pillar of love and support to everyone in his life. To know Andy was to love Andy, but more importantly, to know Andy was to feel loved by Andy.

Andy was our second ever guest on HardLore, and technically our 3rd ever recorded episode. In his honor, we've upscaled this original episode to 4K to preserve this important conversation in the highest possible quality. We will love and miss Andy forever and I can't wait to hear the band that he and Bo will surely be working on. Goodbye my friend.

Originally aired May 11th, 2022:

"Colin and Bo welcome Andy Williams to the show to recount some of his favorite tour stories, from his early days touring with Buried Alive, his long tenure with Every Time I Die, and how he went on to be able to balance his music career with wrestling full time for AEW as half of The Butcher and The Blade."

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00:00:00 - Remembering Andy Williams

00:05:29 - 10 Bell Salute

00:05:58 - HardLore Episode 4: Andy Williams

00:07:01 - The Parallels Between Music & Wrestling

00:11:53 - What Set Andy on a New Path

00:17:13 - Andy & Buried Alive

00:22:54 - Andy's Music Taste Refining

00:30:08 - Andy Asks the Worst Places We've Stayed On Tour

00:35:22 - ETID's 1 Star Hotel Gimmick

00:39:19 - Andy Tour Stories

00:48:04 - Balancing AEW & ETID

00:52:32 - Andy Loves Little Gear Now, Tour Stories Cont.

00:58:29 - Wrestlers and Their Musical Interests

01:03:27 - Wrestling Is Songwriting

01:11:16 - ETID Setting the Example For Touring Bands

01:16:45 - Andy on the End of ETID

We're joined by Pennsylvania's own ARTHUR RIZK! Longtime friend of the show and expert producer/engineer of all things extreme.

Before discussing his work with bands like Blood Incantation, Power Trip, the Cavaleras, Cro-Mags, Kreator (and so many more)... We discuss Arthur's background as the once reluctant guitar player of legendary PA Hardcore band WAR HUNGRY, which lead to him finding his footing in the hardcore community in the early oughts as a young metalhead.

These days Arthur is juggling his time as a musician between COLD WORLD, ETERNAL CHAMPION and SUMERLANDS when he's not manning the board for metal's biggest bands.

We're also joined once again by guest co-host and another modern great in extreme music engineering, our very own Taylor Young. This is a fascinating deep dive into the world of hardcore, metal & punk production with two of the greatest minds currently doing it. Enjoy.

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.

Shot, edited and mixed by ⁠⁠⁠Steven Grise⁠⁠⁠

Title sequence by ⁠⁠⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠⁠⁠

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:17 - Arthur Rizk

00:03:46 - Arthur's Path to Extreme Music

00:16:01 - Arthur's Lesser Known Bands...

00:25:41 - Engineering And Producing Music

00:27:11 - Arthur's Engineering Breakthrough (Power Trip)

00:29:14 - Approaching Production as a Musician First

00:32:45 - War Hungry

00:41:40 - WAR HUNGRY SELF-TITLED!!!

00:50:53 - Pardon This Interruption

00:53:18 - Eternal Champion & Sumerlands

01:05:27 - Remembering Brad Raub

01:07:54 - Sumerlands - Dreamkiller

01:13:04 - Balancing Time Between Producing and Writing

Music

01:15:42 - What Session Did Arthur Learn the Most From?

01:20:36 - Goats****

01:22:18 - Shout Out To All Producers' Spouses

01:24:17 - Re-Recorded Sepultura Classics

01:28:30 - Blood Incantation - Absolute Elsewhere

01:32:49 - Most Difficult Records They've Made

01:38:01 - Perfect Production

01:41:42 - Best Drum Sound of All Time

01:44:49 - Best Guitar Tone

01:46:54 - Heaviest Record Ever

01:49:41 - Production End Game?

01:51:23 - Re-Recording Age of Quarrel

01:59:19 - Arthur Kinda Likes Touring

02:04:31 - Making Records vs. Playing Live

02:06:23 - You Hungry Arthur?

02:12:28 - Top 4

Split your lungs with blood and thunder…

We’re joined by MASTODON co-founder and guitarist Bill Kelliher on the eve of their newest album Marrow Deep.

We dive deep into the origin of the band, the recent loss of Brent Hinds after his dismissal from the band, Bill discovering extreme music in Rochester, NY and linking up with Brann first in Lethargy & Today is the Day, Mastodon’s humble but competent beginnings, and we break down the entire Mastodon discography and accompanying tours and tales in between.

Featuring special guest co-host, engineer & producer Taylor Young of God’s Hate, Twitching Tongues and more.

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.

Shot, edited and mixed by ⁠⁠Steven Grise⁠⁠

Title sequence by ⁠⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠⁠

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:42 - Bill Kelliher

00:02:19 - Bill Reflects on the Loss of Brent Hinds

00:07:07 - Healing And What Comes Next

00:08:02 - "Your Ghost Again" / Marrow Deep Production

00:14:56 - Snakes For Dinner

00:21:52 - Finding Extreme Music

00:31:12 - Favorite Fret

00:31:38 - Meeting Brann & Joining Lethargy

00:39:04 - The Origin of Mastodon

00:43:33 - MASTODON DEMO, Evolution of Live Production

00:49:22 - Pardon This Interruption

00:51:46 - Touring On The Demo

00:56:11 - REMISSION

01:00:34 - Ideal Music Production (Turnstile Glow On)

01:05:14 - LEVIATHAN: Why Moby Dick?

01:08:15 - Exercising Restraint In Songwriting

01:11:47 - Touring on Leviathan

01:14:32 - Features With Scott Kelly

01:17:23 - BLOOD MOUNTAIN

01:24:31 - CRACK THE SKYE

01:33:23 - Death Magnetic Tour

01:35:49 - THE HUNTER

01:42:31 - ONCE MORE ‘ROUND THE SUN

01:45:24 - Building A Set List

01:50:46 - Game Of Thrones

01:52:45 - EMPEROR OF SAND

01:56:53 - “Clandestiny”

02:01:13 - Remembering Nick John / HUSHED & GRIM

02:08:41 - Leading up to Brent's Exit From Mastodon

02:14:51 - Performing With Ozzy One Last Time

02:18:21 - Top 4 Hardcore Records

For the very first time on HardLore, the interviewer becomes the interviewee…

Myself,Brody King and Taylor Young of GOD’S HATE sit down with Anna Zanes, who up until just days ago was the editor in chief of Alternative Press, to deep dive into the development and intention of our brand new 12” EP, WON’T BE DISGRACED.

In our own words… Won’t Be Disgraced is a dense, urgent collection of 3 songs driven by grief and the state of the greater hardcore community and beyond.
Your mind can be your most powerful tool or a weapon used against you in your darkest moments, and the only guaranteed way to fail yourself and your loved ones is to quit.

As the world continues to be destroyed from within by greed, religious extremism, and 24 hour news cycles of division and violations of human rights… It has never been more apparent that all we have is each other. Use your hate to make a change. Don’t be disgraced.

Dedicated to Bohan Daniel Lueders.

You can stream all three songs and pre-order the record now: https://www.godshate.us

You can support a few of the other journalists who were recently laid off below:

• https://andrewsacher.substack.com/

• https://soundbitesnyc.substack.com/

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.

Shot, edited and mixed by ⁠Steven Grise⁠

Title sequence by ⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:25 - Introducing Anna Zanes

00:04:13 - Picking Up Where God's Hate Left Off

00:10:07 - The San Fernando Valley

00:12:36 - Colin Meeting Brody, Starting God's Hate

00:17:33 - Everything Comes From Somewhere/God's Hate Lineups Through the Years

00:22:24 - God's Hate Lyrics, Having Faith in Your Writing

00:28:15 - WON'T BE DISGRACED

01:04:24 - Pardon This Interruption....

01:07:46 - What "Job" Must Be Finished?

01:16:25 - Creating Hateful Music "Out of Love"

01:23:44 - Does Art Require Pain?

01:33:30 - What's Next For God's Hate?

01:37:07 - Deciding On The 3 New Songs & Finishing This Record

01:45:10 - Favorite Extreme Musical Songwriters

01:47:10 - Shutting Out Music When Writing

01:51:10 - What is "Being Harder?

Our 4th annual Sound & Fury week event: LIVE from the SOLD OUT Brain Dead Studios in Hollywood, California.

We're once again proud to present HardLore Jeopardy, featuring Davey Havok of AFI, Todd Jones of NAILS/Carry On and our reigning champion Martín Stewart from Terror/God's Hate/Sound & Fury head to head to head in CLASSIC Jeopardy fashion, with a hardcore/metal/punk twist...

HardLore Jeopardy theme by Jordan Olds (Blood Vulture) and Ben Hutcherson (Khemmis)

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:21 - Meet the Contestants

00:04:18 - HardLore Jeopardy Round 1

00:33:24 - Double Jeopardy

00:39:35 - Pardon This Interruption

00:41:58 - Double Jeopardy Continued

01:09:11 - Final Jeopardy

HardLore is joined by Ryan George & Todd Jones of CARRY ON for a thorough deep dive into the complete history of the band, following their long awaited return this past June at Tied Down fest, and on the eve of their hometown return at Sound & Fury festival.

From beginning as a metallic band called Persevere in Atascadero, California, to changing their name (and their many lineups), recruiting Todd, Corey Williams and Nick Jett in the band, finding their musical identity on their Roll With The Punches 7", refining it on their one and only album A Life Less Plagued, and Ryan infamously deciding to stop being straight edge, quickly ending the band...

This is a fascinating window into a band Bo and I grew up listening to and loving for 20+ years, and it was honor to be in the room as these two shared so much about such a beloved band. X's always win.

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:13 - Hello Welcome

00:02:18 - Ryan Finding Hardcore & Meeting Todd

00:07:19 - Becoming Straight Edge / Strife's Influence in the 90s

00:12:37 - Persevere / Ryan's First Band

00:16:14 - CARRY ON

00:23:44 - Revisiting Carry On Lyrics / The Line Is Drawn 7"

00:31:07 - Pickle Patch

00:32:04 - Roll With The Punches / Todd Joining Carry On

00:40:57 - Off My Chest

00:46:14 - Pardon This Interruption...

00:48:15 - American Nightmare & Signing to Bridge Nine

00:52:25 - A Life Less Plagued

01:16:27 - Ryan Questioning Hardcore & Straight Edge

01:19:37 - Breaking Edge

01:22:56 - Terror

01:24:02 - Reconciling Post Edge Break

01:26:42 - Ending Carry On

01:28:58 - New Carry On Material?

01:31:40 - Carry On Ends, Terror Begins

01:33:35 - Hearing The Terror Demo

01:34:19 - Last Shows At Showcase Theater

01:41:30 - Youth Code

01:44:24 - The Carry On Coke Lines Shirt

01:46:22 - Carry On From 2005 - 2025

01:52:48 - Expectations Going Into the Upcoming Sets

01:54:53 - Tied Down, Returning to the Stage

01:58:28 - Theoretically Giving Up On Music

02:01:18 - Youth Code And Getting Into Industrial Music

02:09:55 - Veganism

02:13:29 - Top 4 Hardcore Records

In our first special Q&A episode since the passing of our late Bo Lueders, we’re joined by Britty Drake (Pity Sex) & Mike Cesario (Twitching Tongues, Disgrace, Forced Order) to help bring a fresh perspective to recent questions asked by our Patreon and Discord members.

Naturally, the majority of the conversation revolves around Bo, grief, and everything in between from these past few months. Thanks to all of you for the questions, Mike & Britty for joining us, and the rest of you for being here and for watching.

Intro to Sick of It All Playlist:

Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6SYnjnzXC7uqWxfOKiTPgL?si=59a0a1e398c847ea

Apple Music - https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/intro-to-sick-of-it-all/pl.u-3G3bcPVy8XV

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00:00:00 - Start / Lou Koller

00:03:24 - Hello Welcome

00:06:45 - Favorite lie you've ever told

00:11:38 - Songs we'd like to perform with an orchestra

00:12:56 - Holy Grail T-Shirt

00:19:09 - Little Moments That Get Us Through The Day

00:25:18 - Top 5 Death Metal Tracks Of All Time

00:28:53 - Booking process For HardLore

00:30:54 - Best Live Sets in 2026

00:33:11 - Ruckus LP Has NO SKIPS?

00:35:48 - Amp Modelers

00:39:13 - Favorite Restaurant in LA

00:41:34 - Favorite Mosh Part In A Non-Hardcore Song

00:45:03 - Pardon This Interruption...

00:47:10 - Favorite Albums This Year So Far

00:49:04 - Favorite Elvis Song

00:50:52 - Tips For Writing Lyrics

01:00:32 - Master Killer Tier Album Thats Recently Been Released

01:03:31 - What's Bo Up To?

01:06:31 - Favorite Girly Pop

01:09:17 - Are We Going To Be Okay?

01:18:25 - Top 4 Hardcore EP's

01:22:41 - Favorite MIsheard Lyric

01:23:52 - Most Time Consuming Instrument When Recording

01:26:10 - Top 4 Punk Records

01:30:06 - Why Bo As Co-Host

01:32:57 - Pop Punk

01:36:45 - Best Airline For Musicians

01:41:02 - A Burning Question For A Guest

01:47:13 - What Have You Learned About Yourself This Year

01:53:08 - Tips For Coping With Loss

01:58:10 - Mini Clone Of Hitler

02:00:34 - Who Feels Like A Rockstar To You

02:07:59 - Favorite Smell

02:10:32 - Favorite Drummer Ever

02:14:11 - Black And Gold Color Scheme

02:14:36 - Least Chance Of Explosive Sh*ts

02:15:51 - Pivotal Point

02:28:25 - Music Project With Bo

02:29:14 - Hardest Laugh While Touring

02:34:32 - Top 5 Sauced Out Tracks

02:38:49 - Mike's Question

02:41:56 - Frontman With Best Skank On Stage

02:43:15 - Britty's Idea

HardLore and special guest co-host Brody King are joined by TERROR founders Scott Vogel & Nick Jett for a special excursion all around the San Fernando Valley in Los Angeles.

We learn all about the origin of the band, which started from the ruins of Carry On, and visit a few key hotspots around our mutual hometown that played an integral role in Terror’s story.

We eventually meet up with Martín Stewart to discuss all things Terror and all things STILL SUFFER, their 10th and newest LP that released in this past April.

This was something scheduled for Bo and I to do together, and I can’t thank of a more appropriate way to finally make it happen than with my LEFT hand man, Mr. Brody King. Thank you to Terror for joining us for this first special episode like this in a long time.

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600:00:00 - Start

00:01:31 - TERROR, Zomu Coffee

00:02:46 - Nick Jett Discovering Hardcore

00:06:44 - Carry On

00:09:46 - Carry On Ending (& Reuniting)

00:13:40 - Piece By Piece

00:16:03 - A Change of Pace for Scott & The Magic of Nick's Garage

00:20:02 - Scotts First Apartment In LA

00:23:15 - Scott Meeting Nick & Todd Jones

00:26:47 - Naming "Terror"

00:28:07 - Terror - Life & Death Demo

00:33:54 - Writing Lowest Of The Low

00:39:17 - Bridge Nine & The Response to Lowest of the Low

00:43:48 - Studio S, North Hollywood

00:46:13 - Pardon This Interruption...

00:48:01 - Worst Terror Show Ever Played

00:53:11 - @NickGoDie

00:56:21 - Terror HQ, Swinton Ave

00:58:34 - One With The Underdogs, Todd Exiting Terror & Chaos at the House

01:03:33 - Moving In & Remembering Terror HQ

01:06:30 - Recording Without a Click Track (Hell yeah)

01:08:23 - Recruiting Frank 3 Gun

01:10:19 - Midnight Hour Records and Martín Stewart

01:17:28 - Underrated Terror Records

01:20:19 - Four Word Album Titles

01:23:43 - Crazy Terror Shows

01:24:28 - Terror At The Whisky A Go Go: A HardLore Investigation

01:31:42 - Unconventional Terror Tours

01:33:48 - Least Sane Member of Terror

01:35:55 - The Current President of Scott's Tots

01:40:10 - Cultural Explosion of Keepers Of The Faith

01:44:40 - Reuniting With Todd Jones on Pain Into Power

01:47:51 - Terror Parts That Felt Like Monumental Achievements

01:50:15 - The Pit Recording Studio, Still Suffer

01:55:36 - Recording with Taylor Young

02:04:46 - Terror Has TEN ALBUMS

02:09:12 - Advice For Younger Bands & People

02:15:22 - Top 4 Breakdowns

This is another piece of HardLore history in the making, as we’re joined by our first ever actor, the great Brooke Smith of Silence of the Lambs, Grey’s Anatomy, Bates Motel and more!

I am once again joined, very appropriately, by Alec Faber of Holy Blade, Twitching Tongues & God’s Hate (and formerly of the Reel Deal podcast with… me)

Long before she graced the silver screen as the iconic Catherine Martin in Silence of the Lambs , you could find her romping around all over the lower east side as one of the infamous WARZONE WOMEN, and a staple of 1980’s New York Hardcore. She spent the golden decade of NYHC taking legendary photos of bands like Agnostic Front, Bad Brains, Cro-Mags, Underdog and more, as documented in her incredible book Sunday Matinee.

We get into her life as a legendary publicist’s daughter, befriending and falling out with the Cro-Mags, the informal formation of the Warzone Women, growing out of hardcore just as acting started to become more serious, her life changing by being in one of the greatest movies of all time, AGAIN with Grey’s Anatomy, and everything in between…

An incredibly fun conversation with a genuine legend. Thanks to Brooke for joining us.

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:39 - Brooke Smith

00:04:09 - Growing Up

00:06:39 - Women in Early New York Hardcore

00:09:28 - Picking Up Photography

00:10:33 - Sunday Matinee

00:12:54 - The Cro-Mags

00:17:32 - Best Mosher in Early 80s NYHC

00:18:40 - "New" Bands That Formed In Real Time & Changed Things

00:22:12 - Hardcore in the 80s vs. Now

00:23:49 - The Warzone Women, Straight Edge, & Her Infamous Pool Party

00:27:33 - Brooke Flips The Script on us smh

00:29:00 - People & Details in Sunday Matinee That Stood Out to Her

00:31:48 - Phones at Shows Now, The Ramones

00:33:49 - Agnostic Front & The Donahue Show

00:36:05 - Hare Krishna

00:37:57 - Modern Day Equivalent of 1980s CBGBs (Shut Down the Internet)

00:41:04 - Close Calls at CBGBs

00:42:28 - Playing Bass In A Band with Carl the Mosher

00:43:42 - Pardon This Interruption…

00:46:22 - The Misfits & Growing out of Hardcore in 1990

00:50:42 - Acting & Hardcore Intersecting

00:53:05 - Getting the Acting Bug

00:54:43 - Developing a Project With Elgin James

00:56:33 - Silence Of The Lambs

01:05:48 - Friendship with Ted Levine

01:08:08 - Brooke's Silence of the Lambs Journals, Vanya on 42nd St

01:12:37 - The Roles That Could Have Been

01:16:38 - Worst Career Advice

01:18:55 - Grey’s Anatomy

01:29:25 - Jeff Buckley

01:33:08 - Motherhood

01:42:06 - Every Character Goes To See AF

01:45:10 - Top 4 Hardcore Records

We're joined his week to by Chris Conley, the founder, vocalist, and songwriter of Saves The Day for a comprehensive, career retrospective conversation… Featuring special guest co-host, Dr. Britty Drake of Pity Sex.

In this true 3.5 hour epic, we start from the beginning and deep deep into Chris and STD’s entire history… From discovering punk through free tickets to a Rancid show, instinctively writing music the second he touched a guitar, Sefler’s humble origin and demo quickly evolving into Saves The Day, working with Steve Evetts and Equal Vision records, Lifetime’s influence on the early days and Can’t Slow Down, dropping out of school to tour on Through Being Cool, taking a leap into the mainstream with Stay What You Are, the harsh reality check of In Reverie, all the way up to feeling “resurrected” by his family in 2026 and finding new ways to handle his lifelong battle with depression.

A true feast of information for any fan of the band, Chris, hardcore, punk, emo or beyond… Thank you to Chris and Britty for joining us.

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:22 - Chris Conley

00:02:24 - Discovering Music in New Jersey

00:08:58 - Developing His Songwriting Chops

00:11:24 - Everything Comes From Hardcore

00:13:47 - The Show That Changed It All...

00:19:09 - New Jersey Word Association

00:28:56 - How Sefler Became SAVES THE DAY

00:34:13 - Saves The Day's First Hardcore Show

00:36:48 - Sefler

00:38:20 - Saves The Day's Relationship With Steve Evetts

00:41:44 - Equal Vision Records

00:43:21 - CAN'T SLOW DOWN

00:51:38 - Pardon This Interruption...

00:55:04 - Favorite Fret

00:57:37 - Evolving as a Teenage Lyricist

01:04:41 - First U.S. Tour with Bane

01:10:08 - The Story Behind "I'm Sorry I'm Leaving"

01:12:22 - Attending NYU

01:15:26 - Dropping out of NYU

01:16:57 - Can't Slow Down Songs that Resonate with Chris Now

01:18:20 - "Blindfolded"

01:20:35 - "Always Ten Feet Tall"

01:21:04 - THROUGH BEING COOL

01:30:50 - The Iconic Through Being Cool Album Cover

01:32:26 - "Shoulder to the Wheel"

01:35:31 - Saves the Day's First Consistent Lineup

01:37:24 - Shoulder To The Wheel Music Video

01:38:31 - Pop Punk vs. Emo

01:45:34 - "Banned From The Back Porch"

01:49:44 - Tours On Through Being Cool

01:51:39 - Vocal Conditioning & Early Voice Changes

01:55:12 - Reflecting on Through Being Cool

01:57:10 - "Sell My Old Clothes, I'm Off To Heaven"

01:58:06 - STAY WHAT YOU ARE

02:01:41 - "At Your Funeral" & Working With Rob Schnapf

02:07:53 - Chris' Voice Changing

02:09:15 - Stay What You Are 25 Years Later

02:11:06 - Growth Over The Years

02:19:20 - Criticism After In Reverie

02:22:19 - IN REVERIE

02:24:39 - Dreamworks

02:27:38 - In Reverie's Cursed Roll Out and Release

02:30:50 - Fatherhood Changing His Perspective

02:31:41 - UPS AND DOWNS

02:34:50 - Trilogy Chapter 1: SOUND THE ALARM

02:43:05 - Formulating the Idea for This Trilogy

02:45:50 - Trilogy Chapter 2: UNDER THE BOARDS

02:47:31 - Touring On The Records

02:50:28 - Trillogy Chapter 3: DAYBREAK (GOATED)

02:54:54 - Dealing With Criticism

02:58:10 - S/T

02:59:51 - Re-Signing to Equal Vision

03:02:58 - Five Year Gap Before 9

03:07:51 - Feeling "Resurrected" in 2026 Thanks to His Wife

03:15:15 - Next Chapter For Chris & Saves The Day

03:18:45 - Top 4 Hardcore Records

In this highly anticipated next chapter with one of our favorite bands, HardLore is finally joined by Jade Puget: the man who was instrumental in defining the iconic AFI sound. Featuring special guest co-host Alec Faber of God’s Hate, Twitching Tongues and Holy Blade.

Following our legendary two part special with Davey Havok, we’re honored to share Jade’s side of the greater AFI story… Starting from the beginning with Jade discovering punk & hardcore in Ukiah, CA alongside his brother Smith, his days in Redemption 87, joining AFI and creating their definitive sound with his work on Black Sails in the Sunset, the surprising legacy of the All Hallows EP, his (and the band’s) frustrations with Nitro Records, the opportune timing of Art of Drowning, the cultural phenomenon of Sing the Sorrow and continuing success of Decemberunderground, the agony of Crash Love, the triumph of Burials, all the way to re-defining the AFI sound with Silver Bleeds the Black Sun.

It was an honor and a joy to finally chat about all things AFI and hardcore with Jade, and we can only hope you enjoy this 3 hour chat as much as we did.

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:38 - Jade Puget

00:03:10 - Discovering Punk and Hardcore in Ukiah

00:06:28 - Skateboarding & The Muhammad Ollie

00:12:57 - Straight Edge & The Way It Is Compilation

00:18:05 - Redemption 87

00:24:21 - Becoming Aware of AFI

00:28:04 - Joining AFI & Writing BLACK SAILS IN THE SUNSET

00:34:30 - Jade’s Favorite Fret & Restraint in Songwriting

00:38:03 - The AFI Sound

00:43:10 - All Hallows EP

00:51:01 - AFI, Danzig, Samhain Tour

00:57:38 - Art Of Drowning

01:06:36 - Commercial Success And Overall Shock

01:09:20 - SING THE SORROW & Slowing Down the AFI

Sound

01:13:20 - Jerry Finn & Butch Vig

01:21:21 - Sing The Sorrow’s Electronics (Fruity Loops)

01:26:48 - Leaving Song 2 & Initially Hearing Sing the Sorrow Finished

01:31:34 - MTV New Years Eve With Three Six Mafia

01:32:59 - Leaving Song 2 Video

01:37:46 - Sing The Sorrow’s Release Into DECEMBERUNDERGROUND

01:44:17 - Picking the Singles for DECEMBERUNDERGROUND

01:47:59 - Butch Vig Declining to Work on the Album

01:50:54 - Writing 120 Songs & The “Hardcore Club”

01:57:00 - The Whirlwind of Decemberunderground into the Agony of CRASH LOVE

02:01:15 - Blaqk Audio/Crash Love Coinciding and “Stripping Down” AFI

02:11:51 - Sing The Sorrow At The Forum

02:17:25 - The Triumph of BURIALS

02:24:13 - The Blood Album & Producing AFI

02:28:18 - Silver Bleeds the Black Sun & Evolving the AFI Sound

02:39:22 - BODIES & AFI in 2020

02:43:05 - Birdlegs & Getting His Revelation Star

02:46:23 - Jade's Insane Chipotle Order lololololol

02:51:51 - Top 4 Hardcore Records

02:54:22 - A Les Paul Epilogue For Bo

It is my tremendous honor to be joined by Patrick Walker of Warning and 40 Watt Sun for what is not only first ever non-print interview, but also HardLore's first ever 1 on 1 interview with a guest.

In this appropriately intimate chat, we discuss his humble upbringing in Harlow, Essex UK.From the Jackson 5 and Tears For Fears to Revelation and Saint Vitus, we discover how Patrick's emotional connection with music flourished, and how he evolved into someone i've always considered to be one of the most personal and deliberate songwriters in the world.

We learn the canonical standing of Warning and 40 Watt Sun in Patrick's point of view, the 20 year lasting legacy of "Watching From A Distance" and why now was finally time to return to Warning for "Rituals of Shame."

After years of championing Patrick's work both on and off HardLore, it was an honor not only to have this chat, but to share more about someone whose work I admire so much. Thanks for watching.

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00:01:12 - Patrick Walker

00:02:47 - Finding Music in Harlow, Essex

00:04:59 - Doom Metal & Discovering the Guitar

00:09:41 - Emotional Connections to Music

00:15:22 - WARNING

00:18:41 - Revelation Looms Demo

00:22:59 - Blessed By The Sabbath

00:23:48 - The Strength To Dream

00:27:07 - Patrick's Favorite Fret

00:30:39 - Re-Approaching Warning

00:33:10 - Watching From A Distance

00:43:20 - The "Footprints Moment"

00:45:42 - Vulnerability in Public-Facing Art

00:48:27 - Pardon This Interruption...

00:49:48 - Touring In America / Patrick's Love of Food

00:56:51 - Patrick on Modern Doom Metal

00:58:17 - 40 WATT SUN

01:09:33 - Changes In Touring Solo

01:12:16 - Rituals of Shame

01:23:27 - Patrick on Spirituality

01:25:29 - Top 4 Doom Metal Records

Destiny has come: After being officially crowned the hardest hardcore band of all time in our official tournament bracket… We’re finally joined by the great Pete Morcey, vocalist of 100 DEMONS for a long form, sit-down interview.

We’re ALSO joined by special guest co-host Dan Seely of King Nine, for his historic 5th full-length appearance on a HardLore episode.

We start from the beginning of Pete’s nearly 40 year musical career, from making the “definitive American oi record” in Forced Reality, spearheading heavy hardcore in Connecticut with Higher Force, joining 100 Demons and writing the iconic self-titled record, his dark folk masterpiece that is Murmur’s The Boundless Black, all the way to now singing for Blood For Blood, and making 100 Demons’ first record in 22 years, Embrace the Black Light.

Thanks to Pete, Dan, and the Detroit Masonic Temple for having us.

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.

Edited by Steven Grise (https://www.instagram.com/iamonenineseven/) • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf (https://www.instagram.com/marzluf/)

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:22 - Pete Morcey

00:02:51 - Finding Punk & Hardcore in Connecticut

00:17:50 - FORCED REALITY, Pete’s First Band, Defining American Oi!

00:14:28 - Jocko Willink & The Connecticut Skinhead Crew

00:29:00 - Forced Reality S/T & Tours

00:33:22 - Sean Martin

00:34:57 - HIGHER FORCE, Connecticut’s First HARD Band

00:39:42 - Higher Force’s Very Confusing Discography

00:43:08 - Pete Morcey: Classically Trained Opera Singer

00:48:00 - The End of Higher Force & Beginning of 100 DEMONS

00:51:50 - Morcey’s Restaurant & The Tuna Pita

00:54:00 - Pardon this interruption…

00:57:03 - The Lost Higher Force LP

00:59:27 - 100 DEMONS - Self-Titled

01:08:36 - His Fathers Son to Cold Wind of the Crossroads

01:14:50 - Recording New 100 Demons after 22 Years

01:21:00 - Larry Dwyer’s Cinnamon Challenge

01:24:24 - Growing as a Vocalist & Lyricist

01:31:17 - Pete’s Haunted House

01:37:35 - A Visit From Bo

01:46:55 - Joining Blood for Blood

01:54:50 - MURMUR (Pete’s Masterpiece)

02:03:24 - IG! And the IGfits!

02:10:13 - Pete’s Most Personal Creative Endeavor

02:20:55 - Top 4 Hardcore Records