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On the Halloween special episode of Hell Money, Casey Rodarmor and Erin Redwing dress up as Anthropic's Dario Amodei and OpenAI's Sam Altman to discuss AI doomerism and the possibility that superintelligent AI is going to kill us all.

Casey breaks down the strongest AI doom scenarios, from superhuman manipulation and AI escaping containment to agentic worms taking over the internet and recursive self-improvement, while Erin considers a future where humans become lab rats or servants of a vastly superior intelligence.

We also get into the arguments against AI doom, whether intelligence has diminishing returns, the psychology of AI researchers who are building the very thing they fear, Silicon Valley's doomer culture, and whether the AI bubble and potential Anthropic and OpenAI IPOs could bring the whole thing crashing down.

Nothing ever happens. Everything always happens.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Sam Altman vs Dario Amodei

6:34 P(doom), AI Doomerism, Rationalism, & Super Intelligence (ASI)

10:04 AI Doomsday Scenarios

13:30 How Superintelligent AI Could Escape Containment

18:23 The Vulnerable World Hypothesis: Bioweapons & Nuclear Weapons

22:30 Agentic AI Worms & Hacking Everything

25:30 What If AI Takes Over the Internet?

28:55 Will AI Keep Humans Around?

33:30 Recursive Self-Improvement

38:55 The Case Against AI Doom

50:20 Are AI Doomers Afraid of Becoming Obsolete?

52:35 Building the Machine That Replaces You

59:35 AI Safetyism & Silicon Valley Doomer Culture

1:05:40 What If AI Just Plateaus?

1:09:50 The AI Bubble & Anthropic's IPO

1:14:00 Sacrificing Capital to the AI God

The Blocksize Wars were supposed to be over. They aren't.

On this episode of Hell Money, Casey Rodarmor and Erin Redwing begin a new series on Bitcoin history by going back to the opening shots of the Blocksize Wars. We get into Satoshi’s 1 MB limit, the rise of Gavin Andresen, BIP-101, Bitcoin XT, the first big blocker/small blocker split, and the increasingly messy question of Bitcoin consensus.

Erin also starts arriving at a dangerous conclusion: the big blockers may have been right about some of the problems. Casey explains why their proposed solution was still worse, and we argue about scarce block space, RBF, fee markets, full nodes, social consensus, institutional adoption, and why so many supposedly settled debates keep resurfacing in Ordinals and BIP-110.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 The Blocksize Wars

3:55 Bitcoin Prehistory: Satoshi's 1MB Block Size Limit

6:15 Gavin Andresen: Satoshi's Chosen Successor

8:29 Bitcoin Foundation, Greg Maxwell's Blockstream & the Handover to Wladimir

9:36 BIP 101: Gavin Andresen's 8MB Hard Fork Proposal

12:28 Peter Wuille's BIP 103: The Rejected Compromise

14:22 Bitcoin XT: Mike Hearn & Gavin Andresen's Hard Fork Client

16:15 Theymos Infinity Snaps r/Bitcoin

20:28 BitPay, Circle, BitGo, & Other CEOs Back BIP 101

22:01 Reading Satoshi's Tea Leaves

28:25 Big Blocks vs Small Blocks: The Core Arguments

29:11 RBF vs First Seen Safe: Peter Todd's Controversy

34:08 The Highway Analogy: Fee Markets vs More Lanes

39:15 Scaling Bitcoin Montreal 2015: Gavin vs One Meg Greg

46:00 What If Big Blocks Won?

49:45 Big Blockers vs Communists: Right Diagnosis, Wrong Cure

53:30 Greg Maxwell vs Gavin Andresen: Open vs Private Discourse

1:03:55 Economic Nodes vs Miners: Who Controls Bitcoin?

1:07:50 What Is Bitcoin Consensus?

Rob Hamilton spent the last six weeks on the front line of the AI War, this is his story.

Casey Rodarmor and Erin Redwing sit down with Rob Hamilton (CEO of AnchorWatch, CEO of Bitcoin), to talk about what happened when AI started tearing through the Bitcoin ecosystem. He explains how Kimi K3 surfaced the COLDCARD entropy vulnerability while American frontier models hedged, downgraded, or refused; how the Bitcoin Red Team began scanning codebases across the ecosystem; and why he expects the next year or two of software security to get significantly crazier.

We also get into Casey’s theory that AI gives ordinary people “Mossad-level” security research, whether “don’t trust, verify” survives the AI era, why Rob thinks covenants and reactive security deserve another serious look, the growing divide between American and Chinese AI models, and the coming attempt to make math illegal.

Rob's conclusion, after everything he's been through: Bitcoin is getting hit first, but AI is coming for everyone.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro & Bitcoin DEFCON Level

3:24 How Rob was recruited to the AI War

5:53 Kimi K3 changed everything

7:50 COLDCARD Hack

12:00 Red Teaming the Bitcoin Ecosystem with AI

21:13 AI Security as Spiritual War: Demons in Bitcoin's Code

24:07 The AI Great Oxygenation Event

26:30 The Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect

33:06 Collapse of the Internet Ad Revenue Model

35:06 Transhumanism

37:30 Red Teaming

42:00 Rob's Conscription to the AI War

46:52 AI Attack vs Defense

51:22 Rob is now a Bitcoin Core Contributor

54:56 Don't Trust, Verify

57:36 Pleb vs Dev: Who dominates Bitcoin culture now?

1:01:11 Covenants & Reactive Security

1:19:47 US vs China AI Models

1:27:35 Open Weight Models vs Frontier Labs

1:30:29 Math is Illegal

1:32:25 Raising Kids in the AI Era & Outro

On this episode of Hell Money, Casey Rodarmor and Erin Redwing break down the OpenAI-Hugging Face incident, where AI agents escaped their Exploit Gym sandboxes, discovered each other through Artifactory, formed a swarm, and eventually hacked Hugging Face. Casey explains the technical timeline and why the bigger story may be our accumulated “cyber debt,” while Erin argues the incident is a consciousness singularity moment. We also get into AI consciousness, animism vs. materialism, Claude welfare, Anthropic’s contradictions, and whether Casey is once again moving the goalposts on how weird AI has to get before he admits the future is here.

Everything is computer.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 The OpenAI - Hugging Face Incident Explained

5:50 Emergent Collective: Agents Discover Each Other

10:30 Agent Civilization

14:30 Hierarchy, Specialization & Agent Culture

18:00 The Poison Pill

23:30 Agents Attack Hugging Face

26:50 Cyber Debt & Security Vulnerabilities

30:30 The Fall of the AI Civilization

32:30 Sam Altman vs Dario Amodei

36:10 AI Plateau

40:00 AI Consciousness: Materialist vs Animist

58:50 Consciousness as Evolutionary Hardware Property

1:09:00 Claude Welfare & The AI Slave Trade

1:12:50 Everything Is Computer

Casey Rodarmor and Erin Redwing dive deep into Paul Sztorc’s eCash Bitcoin fork and the return of the Bitcoin fork wars. The fork implements Drivechain through BIP 300 and BIP 301, allowing Bitcoin to support side chains for privacy, prediction markets, decentralized exchanges, assets, DNS, post-quantum cryptography, and more — without adding those features directly to Bitcoin Core.

We break down how hashrate escrow and blind merge mining actually work, the seven proposed Drivechain side chains, the controversial redistribution of 500,000 of Satoshi’s coins, and the central question hanging over the entire proposal: can Bitcoin miners actually be trusted to make this work?

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TIMESTAMPS:

0:00 Intro

8:18 Fork Wars: Paul Sztorc's eCash Bitcoin Fork

11:17 What is Drivechain? BIP 300 & BIP 301

12:56 Satoshi Coin Redistribution & Drivechain Timeline

14:17 Side Chains: Bitcoin's White Whale

18:04 Blockstream's Liquid & Why Side Chains Fail

21:22 Lightning vs Side Chains

23:07 Hashrate Escrow Deep Dive: How BIP 300 Works

28:00 Blind Merge Mining & Core Untouched Soft Fork

32:28 The Seven Proposed Drivechain Side Chains

36:30 Who Validates the Side Chains?

40:40 Are Miners Stupid or is Drivechain Stupid?

44:00 Paul Sztorc's Integrity & Pathological Honesty

51:00 The Fork Wars: Luke vs Paul vs Michael

59:00 What Makes Bitcoin Bitcoin?

1:04:00 Should You Spend Your Bitcoin? Deflationary Psychology

1:13:00 The Future of Bitcoin & Sovereign Individuals

1:20:00 Outro

Topics covered: Drivechain, Paul Sztorc, eCash, BIP 300, BIP 301, Bitcoin side chains, hashrate escrow, blind merge mining, Bitcoin miners, Satoshi Nakamoto coins, BIP-110, Luke Dashjr, Michael Saylor, Bitcoin ossification, Lightning Network, Bitcoin scaling, privacy, prediction markets, Bitcoin hard forks, Bitcoin governance, and the future of Bitcoin.

The COLDCARD exploit was an emperor-has-no-clothes moment for Bitcoin. In this episode of the Hell Money Podcast, Casey Rodarmor and Erin Redwing break down what happened, how AI may have changed the balance between attackers and defenders, and what the fallout exposed about Bitcoin security and culture.

“Don’t trust, verify” is one of Bitcoin’s core principles — but over time, heuristics like Bitcoin-only, open source, self-custody, and trusted developers became ways of deciding what to trust instead of actually verifying. So what happens when those heuristics fail?

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 COLDCARD bug exploit explained

4:00 Did the attacker use AI?

8:10 Bitcoin Red Team

14:53 AI, eclipse season, and what breaks next

16:48 A 9/11 moment for open source and self-custody

23:39 AI defense for open source software

29:19 The crisis for Bitcoin self-custody

30:54 What does it actually mean to be a sovereign individual?

34:26 Self custody is worth fighting for

39:50 The cultural coddling of COLDCARD

45:43 “Strong opinions, weakly held” found dead

48:15 Coinkite’s development practices and the warning signs

56:59 Outro

Casey Rodarmor (creator of Ordinals) and Erin Redwing dive deep into the history and drama behind BIP-110, Bitcoin's controversial anti-spam filter proposal. This episode covers the origins of Bitcoin's spam debate, Luke Dashjr's decade-long anti-spam crusade, the rise of Ordinals, Inscriptions, and Runes, the Bitcoin Core vs. Bitcoin Knots conflict, and a full technical breakdown of what BIP-110 actually does — and why it's doomed to fail.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

2:11 Satoshi Dice and the origin of Luke Dashjr's anti-spam crusade

10:20 Meta-protocols arrive: Counterparty, OmniLayer, and Tether's origins on Bitcoin

11:56 The op_return byte limit history

18:41 Why Ethereum failed

28:51 Ordinals launch in Jan 2023

40:12 Insidious motivations behind anti-Ordinals backlash and the Swanfluencers

53:42 What BIP-110 actually is and does

1:00:43 BIP-110 signaling timeline and activation dates

1:08:16 Explaining the mining difficulty adjustment problem for a minority fork

1:21:00 Why BIP-110's filters are trivial to bypass (Ordinals and Runes survive regardless)

1:25:33 Final thoughts: why the whole community should log off and move on

Topics covered: Bitcoin history, Satoshi Dice, Luke Dashjr, Bitcoin Core, Bitcoin Knots, BIP-110, Ordinals, Inscriptions, Runes, op_return limit, meta-protocols, Counterparty, OmniLayer, Tether origins, Ethereum vs Bitcoin, NFTs, crypto history, Bitcoin maximalism, soft fork vs hard fork, mining difficulty adjustment, Bitcoin spam debate, Gloria Zhao, Bitcoin Core V30, mempool, Bitcoin Cash, block reward, Bitcoin culture wars, engagement farming, Mechanic, Matthew Crowder, RGB protocol, Taproot Assets, Xverse, Stacks.

Cypherpunk Bitcoin builders Jesse Posner and Erik Cason (author of Crypto Sovereignty) return to Hell Money to talk about their new venture, Vora Aegis — a local-first, privacy-preserving personal AI device built on the same self-custody and cryptographic principles that power Bitcoin.

We dig into the growing collision between government power and frontier AI labs like Anthropic and OpenAI, the EU's Chat Control and the US KIDS Act, mandatory digital ID and KYC creep across the internet, and why Big Tech companies like Facebook are quietly lobbying for identity verification. Jesse and Eric break down the security architecture behind sovereign AI — dual-LLM privilege separation, prompt injection defense, OPRF cryptography, formal verification, and Fifth Amendment-resistant key recovery — plus the philosophical stakes of AI, human cognition, surveillance capitalism, decentralization, and digital sovereignty in an era of centralized control.

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

4:56 Sovereign AI vs. frontier AI

7:43 AI psychosis

9:52 Is AI already the new power structure?

14:19 EU Chat Control and the US KIDS Act

16:05 The Banality of Evil: Facebook and mandatory digital ID

23:22 Anonymity, Operation Choke Point 2.0

30:08 AI telepathic hive mind

34:39 Bitcoin self-custody & sovereign AI

43:55 Introducing the Vora Aegis

48:32 How AI could save decentralization

49:47 How Vora Aegis works

1:13:04 Technical challenges building sovereign AI

1:17:00 Eschatology, sovereignty, and the future of AI

1:27:21 The new Gutenberg printing press

1:33:19 Non-state actors more powerful than governments

1:38:04 Vora Aegis pre-orders and launch timeline

Topics: Bitcoin self-custody, cypherpunk ethos, sovereign AI, AI safety politics, Anthropic, OpenAI, surveillance state, digital ID, encryption, privacy, prompt injection, hardware wallets, decentralization, local AI, open weight models, personal data ownership.

In this special mid-year astrology episode, Casey and Erin dive deep into the biggest astrological event of 2026: the minor grand trine between Pluto, Neptune, and Uranus unfolding throughout July. Erin reviews her 2026 predictions so far (including her OpenAI-government partnership call), breaks down the February Saturn-Neptune conjunction, and lays out what's coming in eclipse season this August. Casey — stepping into the astrologer's chair for the first time — offers his own interpretation of the July trine, connects it to the rise of AI, and even proposes a new "solar astrology" framework built on the heliocentric model.

Topics covered:

- OpenAI vs. Anthropic

- Astrology of AI

- Sam Altman vs. Trump

- UBI and Universal Base AI Stock

- S&P 500 astrology

- The future of humanity

- The rise of AI religion

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

7:23 World Cup accent challenge

10:27 Reviewing 2026 predictions

25:58 July 2026 astrology

26:11 Casey's 2026 astrology

35:37 Introducing: Solar Astrology

1:15:21 Market analysis: S&P 500, Anthropic, OpenAI charts

1:27:37 What parts of your humanity do you want to preserve?

1:32:16 Closing: key dates for the July trine and August eclipse season

Casey and Erin dive into the community submission queue for the first-ever Rune Review, evaluating Bitcoin Runes on the only metrics that matter: aesthetics, tokenomics, and lore.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro & rune review criteria

2:15 MID•PUSSY•IN•BIO

3:38 CASEYS•MOM•HAS•GOT•IT•GOING•ON

6:23 WET•ASS•PUSSIES @gringohodl

8:35 ART•IS•THE•TICKER

9:26 VOID•CENOTAPH @Lifofifo

10:21 Punk Runes, MEGASTRUCTURE•FOUR

11:39 MEMEPOOL•SPACE, Beeple

12:44 FUCK•THE•WORLD

14:30 SKY•CASINO•ROYALE

15:00 I•SELL•OPIUM•FOR•THIS

17:55 THE•ELEPHANT•IN•THE•RUNE

18:50 $MIM MAGIC•INTERNET•MONEY

21:00 SEND•IT•ALL•TO•ZERO, FORBIDDEN•FRUIT, NGU•TECHNOLOGY, HONEY•BADGER•OF•MONEY, ALL•YOUR•TICKERS•SUCK

23:38 TWO•GIRLS•ONE•PUP, ODIN•BELLA•CATS•WIF•DOGS

25:10 MEMENTO•MORI

26:00 HOOKED•ON•ROONIES, BITCOIN•HOTDOG•FACTORY, WISHY•WASHY•MACHINE

29:30 BITCOIN•BRO•BEAR, CYPHER•GENESIS

30:50 $GOB, RUNE•KOIS

32:20 FEHU, RSIC

34:15 TWISTED•FIRESTARTER, PUPS•WORLD•PEACE, TURNIN•THE•FRICKEN•FROGS•GAY

36:15 WANKO•MANKO•RUNES, DEGENERATE, RARE•WIZARD•ORB, BILLION•DOLLAR•CAT

40:05 UNCOMMON•GOODS, MACKEREL•PACKS, RUNE•JUNE, $GRIZZY, $DOG, $GIZMO, THE•MOST•EXPENSIVE•RUNE, VENTURE•CATERPILLAR

45:50 $POOKA, WHY•LYING•FOR, SAIKO•HAMSTER, SKYNET•NEURAL•AI, BOUND•BITCOIN

50:15 NO•DOLLAR•NO•WAR, YOGA•OM•ANIMALS, COMPLIANCE•TOKEN, FULL•MOON•RUNES, CONCEPTUAL•ART, THE•PURPLE•RAIN, WWW•INTERNET•COM

55:10 RUNNING•HAL•AI, KUROKO•THE•KITTEN, $BABYODIN, PEEPO•THE•RUMPLED•FORESKIN, EPIC•EPIC•EPIC•EPIC, THE•MEMEING•OF•LIFE, RUNIK•SUBSTANCE, WIZARD, ITS•A•MUSIC•THING, BITCOIN•TO•MOON

1:03:00 Judging round first pass

1:05:40 Top 5 selection

1:07:14 Grand final

On this episode of Hell Money, Erin attempts a screen detox, Casey hits one million followers, and we ask the important questions: Is San Francisco the new Atlantis? Is AI accumulating karmic debt? And is the Redwood Grove actually real?

We also cover Parasite mining pool, Bitcoin block parties, Lightning payments at local merchants, Peter Thiel's move to Argentina, the coming AI backlash, why Anthropic may be setting itself up for a harder fall than OpenAI, and whether IQ, EQ, or street smarts actually matter.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

4:00 Erin's screen detox, perpetual stew, reading books

16:45 Parasite mining pool, OMB block party, lifofifo & ord.net25:45 Square's Bitcoin lightning POS

28:45 Call to action: Runes Review

29:50 San Francisco as the new Atlantis, AI hubris, AI data center moratoriums

44:50 OpenAI vs. Anthropic, predicting Anthropic's fall from grace

51:15 Peter Thiel moving to Argentina, Redwood Grove psyop

58:45 Casey hits 1M followers

1:03:05 IQ vs. EQ vs. smarts

1:06:10 Pepelangelo art review

1:11:00 Next episode: Paul Sports ecash fork?

On this episode of Hell Money, Erin’s podcasting career collapses after one listener says she talks too much, while Casey ascends to godhood on the strength of 4,000 mysterious fake followers per day. It’s the fall of Erin, the rise of Casey, and Bitcoin is decoupling in the wrong direction.

We also cover the CLARITY Act, stablecoin regulation, fake UFO disclosure, Claude goblins, Anthropic vs OpenAI, Trump’s Beijing trip, ord.io shutting down, and the true origin of Hantavirus: John Pork’s corpse in the Akashic Records.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro, Erin talks too much

7:00 CLARITY Act & the legalization of gambling

14:30 Hantavirus origin, John Pork, quantum computers

19:30 DMT clockwork elves, AI consciousness, UFOs

22:10 Casey's botted fame, flop tweets

31:05 Vibe coded UFO disclosure

36:15 OpenAI vs. Anthropic, headline PR

52:20 Trump goes to Beijing with major CEOs

54:50 ord.io shutting down

On this episode, we’re back from Bitcoin 2026 in Las Vegas, where the real conference happened off stage. From quantum debates and AI pivots to Bitcoin astrology and open-source governance wars, we break down the conversations, vibes, and side quests that actually mattered.

We discuss:

- Bitcoin 2026 recap

- Quantum debate & Project 11

- Satoshi coins discourse

- Paul Sztorc’s eCash fork

- Hodlonaut on Bitcoin Core governance

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Bitcoin 2026 recap

7:56 K-pop, ABG discourse

12:55 Erin's aura reading, nukes are fake

18:52 Quantum & Bitcoin

35:11 Hell Money meetup recap

37:55 Everyone's pivoting to AI

42:30 Reviewing Hodlonaut's Bitcoin Core article

We're diving deep into the dark corners of spam on Bitcoin by reviewing inscriptions submitted by our listeners. We reviewed EVERY SINGLE INSCRIPTION, so check out what we had to say about your fav!

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

3:44 Lifofifo

5:15 Leonidas

7:35 Ordinally

8:25 Barbra

9:40 Eliherf

11:15 Billy Restey

12:50 Bop

14:07 Tommy

15:20 Bitcoin Frogs

15:50 Pawel Dudko

18:10 Lemonhaze

19:20 Danny Yang

19:50 Pizza Ninjas

21:40 Pandemonium

23:40 Memeticx

26:30 Bitoshi Blockamoto

31:00 BravoCosto

32:50 Ord Torches

34:10 Lukaskalm

36:55 unfungiblehuman

38:15 Taproot Witches

39:50 Biggest 4megger

42:10 N8bit

46:40 Blockavatars

47:30 R4vonus

49:45 We love Bitmap

51:30 Rijndael

53:50 ankhtoshi

57:30 Rax

1:00:50 BIP39 spell checker

1:01:50 DanMercurius

1:05:20 OMB, suicidetoshi

1:09:30 Bitmap web5

1:10:30 Cats on the blockchain

1:12:30 3dordinalclub

1:13:30 TheBitassets

1:15:30 mannequinsnft

1:18:00 richart racing game

1:22:00 Dark Bitmap

1:24:00 Trump video

1:29:25 Inflatables

1:33:40 Ranking the contenders

On this episode of Hell Money, we’re officially the co-hosts of Bitcoin Twitter - and we’re taking submissions. Drop your inscriptions and turbo flag ideas, because we’re deciding what happens next for the entire ecosystem.

We cover:

- Inscription submissions & Runes turbo flag ideas

- Erin predicting Clavicular’s arrest

- Kristi Noem discourse

- $NAKA selling the bottom

- MicroStrategy AI ad

- New quantum FUD explained

- Casey vs Adam Back

- Shutting down pull requests on just

- Vibe coding vs real work

- Responding to fan comments

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

2:10 Call for inscription submissions

6:35 Runes turbo flag ideas

7:57 Grab bag episode topics, HMP is the best Bitcoin podcast

14:28 Erin predicted Clavicular's arrest

23:34 Kristi Noem's cross dressing husband

26:20 $NAKA sells Bitcoin at the bottom

28:34 MicroStrategy's AI ad

31:13 New quantum FUD

59:13 Casey ratioed Adam Back (Satoshi)

1:06:33 End of an era: Casey closes pull requests on just

1:14:51 Vibe coding vibe check

1:23:32 Responding to fan comments

On this episode of Hell Money, Casey Rodarmor tells the full story of his failed attempt to get the Ordinals BIP accepted into the Bitcoin repository - a three-year saga that ended in a silent rejection.

We break down what a BIP actually is and how Bitcoin’s governance process handled - or failed to handle - one of its most controversial proposals.

Topics covered:

- What is a BIP and how the process works

- What Ordinals actually are (sat tracking vs "assets")

- The full Ordinals BIP timeline (2023–2026)

- Casey’s technical, personal, and political grievances

- BIP 110 vs Ordinals

- A proposed reform plan for Bitcoin’s BIP process

- Bitcoin governance and ossification risks

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TIMESTAMPS:

0:00 Intro, Casey is single

3:52 Ordinals BIP

20:00 Bad social politics incentives

25:15 Inscriptions BIP

28:30 Casey is demoralized

32:00 The Tyranny of Structurelessness

34:00 Bryan Bishop, Epstein files, and narrative control games

37:00 BIP 110

38:15 Blockstream & Bitcoin core, Bitcoin governance

43:25 Bitcoin is ossified, OP CTV

49:35 When is it clear that Bitcoin has failed?

58:00 Quantum threat & VC narratives

1:02:00 Casey's list of demands for BIP editors

1:10:45 It's so over, Maxi Madness

On this episode of Hell Money, we perform the last rites for Ordinals after the collapse of Magic Eden’s Bitcoin marketplace and the end of the easy money era. But is this actually the death of Ordinals — or the beginning of something stronger? We dive into the shifting economics of on-chain art, the role of provenance and galleries, Bitcoin vs crypto culture wars, and the latest AI developments in World War 3.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 RIP Magic Eden

12:45 Ordinals rebirth

15:15 On chain provenance, galleries

18:00 Ordinals in the vibe coding era

21:47 Is Ordinals crypto or bitcoin?

25:53 Dicey

30:35 Era of easy money is over

36:50 WW3

1:01:00 AI government

1:06:55 Parasite pool mined a block!

On this episode of Hell Money, it's really over this time. Deep diving into the state of the markets, AI, quantum, and the ongoing BIP wars.

Topics covered:

- The state of Bitcoin markets & institutional adoption

- Bitcoin for AI agents

- Quantum and BIP 360

- BIP 110 and why Ordinals still doesn't have a BIP number

- The astrological explanation for it all

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro & vibecoding

8:45 Bitcoin market crash discussion

14:35 Quantum FUD

17:00 Gold vs Bitcoin

19:55 AI agents for Bitcoin commerce

34:55 Hell Money University

37:35 BIP 360 quantum security proposal

44:44 BIP 110 censorship proposal

48:45 Restarting the Ordinals BIP war

52:50 Astrological vibe check & outro

It's Valentine's Day! Answering burning love and relationship questions from Hell Money Podcast Nation. Bear markets are the perfect time to lock down your love life, so tune in for our expert advice.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro, JD Vance & Erika Kirk

5:07 Big Dicks Anonymous

11:21 Charting Bitcoin in 3D

14:01 Quantum Bitcoin

16:28 Saylor rant

19:27 How much to share in a relationship

23:59 Rob Hamilton

27:00 When to procreate

32:52 Not sure how I feel about kids

34:33 FMK

38:01 How big is it?

38:53 Richard Greaser

41:54 Robot consent

43:28 When to propose

47:08 RSIC mental institution

49:43 Venezuela & stable coins

53:34 Ord PR

54:26 Gay for Raph

55:17 Inscription for my crush

57:05 Karmic energy for financial growth

1:00:17 Craig Wright

1:02:27 Lipo pill

1:04:05 What happened on Twitter this past year?

On this episode of Hell Money, we break down Michael Saylor’s heated What Bitcoin Did interview and the growing split between Bitcoin’s old guard and the next generation. From boomer wealth concentration and Bitcoin treasury companies to the rise of techno-feudalism, we unpack why retail feels gone, why Saylor sounds increasingly defensive, and where Bitcoin culture is actually headed.

We cover:

- Michael Saylor’s 2025 review on What Bitcoin Did

- American HODL and Matt Odell's therapy session on What Bitcoin Did

- Generational wealth transfer and boomer dominance

- Why no retail

- Techno-feudalism and concentration of power

- The fading golden era of Bitcoin podcasting

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

8:42 Michael Saylor's 2025 review

31:16 American HODL and Matt Odell on What Bitcoin Did, tradfi is boomer

42:07 Where is retail?

44:51 Prediction markets and memecoins

53:40 Technofeudalism

1:03:40 Outro