Hollinger & Duncan NBA Show - NBA Basketball Podcast

Nate and John Hollinger break down the latest extensions and notable non-deals, including Anthony Black, Brandon Miller, Cason Wallace, and Brandin Podziemski. Then they compare their biggest season win-total disagreements, debate potential surprises in the West and relegation candidates, and make their conference finals and championship picks.

0:29 — Anthony Black’s non-extension and Orlando’s roster-building decisions.

4:53 — Brandon Miller’s extension and the market for big wings.

6:32 — Cason Wallace’s extension and Oklahoma City’s financial future.

10:31 — Brandin Podziemski’s extension and Golden State’s plans.

13:11 — Scoot Henderson’s future in Portland.

14:34 — Jaime Jaquez Jr., Oso Ighodaro, and other extension decisions.

15:51 — Jaden McDaniels’ one-year extension and its unusual structure.

18:04 — Season win-total disagreements: Miami’s fit and depth.

21:41 — Indiana’s outlook and Tyrese Haliburton’s return.

26:55 — Orlando’s depth, defense, and coaching change.

29:15 — Charlotte’s shooting, injuries, and place in the East.

30:58 — Washington’s roster fit and range of outcomes.

34:46 — Western Conference outlook and how Hollinger builds his projections.

37:20 — Minnesota’s depth and dependence on its starting lineup.

39:42 — Who could break into the West’s top six? Dallas, Portland, Utah, and Memphis.

44:30 — Relegation predictions and the incentives facing the league’s worst teams.

47:05 — Championship contenders and disagreements about the East.

51:42 — Conference finals and championship predictions.

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Nate and John discuss Jalen Duren’s new contract, Stephen Curry’s extension, Nikola Jokić’s future in Denver, and the NBA’s emphasis on off-arm push-offs and flopping. Then, they examine rookie extension candidates and answer listener questions about Dallas’ wing-heavy roster, rising front office executives, lottery reform, and team-building decisions in Detroit, Houston, and Chicago.

News

0:21 — Jalen Duren’s new contract with Detroit.

11:51 — Stephen Curry’s extension and Golden State’s roster flexibility.

14:12 — Brandin Podziemski’s potential extension and fit with Curry.

18:03 — Nikola Jokić’s comments about his future in Denver.

20:44 — Preseason player rankings.

22:00 — Jamal Shead’s extension.

24:30 — Brandon Ingram’s Achilles injury.

25:14 — The NBA’s emphasis on calling off-arm push-offs.

30:10 — Flopping enforcement.

Mailbag and Rookie Extensions

35:08 — How many members of the 2024 draft class do you think will receive rookie extensions next summer worth more than the mid-level?

39:01 — Cason Wallace.

39:55 — Brandon Miller and Scoot Henderson.

40:29 — Anthony Black.

41:08 — Noah Clowney.

42:04 — Is there a world in which collecting this many wings actually works out for the Mavs, and how would that team need to play to be successful?

45:16 — Who are the up-and-coming front office execs that will take over a franchise and take it to the next level?

48:17 — If you could go back in time and pay one Grizzlies player under the table, who would it be?

49:55 — What do you think the effect of lottery reform will be on win distribution?

50:43 — Do the Pistons have to pick between Ausar Thompson and Jalen Duren?

51:19 — Does Houston have to make the same decision between Amen Thompson and Alperen Şengün?

52:33 — If Caleb Wilson shows star potential, how should the Bulls approach building their roster going forward?

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John and Nate hit on the biggest news of the last week, including extensions for Kawhi Leonard, Pelle Larsson, and Ausar Thompson, plus some other prominent non-extensions. Then, we hit a bunch of interesting mailbag questions.

News

0:21 — Miami claims Bez Mbeng off waivers.

0:55 — Kawhi Leonard’s extension and Toronto’s roster flexibility.

6:15 — Toronto’s roster moves and contract updates.

7:19 — Karl-Anthony Towns’ extension negotiations.

13:44 — Jalen Brunson’s wrist surgery.

14:31 — Pelle Larsson’s extension.

18:44 — Stephen Curry’s extension and Golden State’s cap space.

22:04 — The Bucks–Gary Trent Jr. circumvention investigation.

30:07 — Ausar Thompson’s extension.

32:10 — The Clippers’ interim leadership.

36:18 — Nicolas Batum’s retirement and career.

39:27 — The Hawks–Hornets trade involving Dorian Finney-Smith and Buddy Hield.

43:44 — Cam Whitmore joins the Nuggets.

Mailbag

45:42 — Who will be the next star-level player to ask out or get pushed out?

54:33 — Could Brad Stevens have viewed the Jaylen Brown trade as making the Celtics better rather than taking a step back?

56:55 — Is Vivek Ranadivé the worst owner in pro sports?

1:03:17 — Should the league bring back the amnesty once every five years?

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John and Nate answer a fascinating mailbag of listener questions.

If the expansion draft were next offseason, which players would be the hottest properties for the two new teams?

What is the biggest inefficiency in NBA player evaluation right now?

Who will be the first coach fired?

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John and Nate react to the league’s penalties against the Clippers a week on. What are some of the underdiscussed aspects of this saga? And where do the Clips go from here as an organization?

We also break down the Bennedict Mathurin move for New Orleans, and then assess Amen Thompson’s 5-year, $208 million extension in Houston.

Then, mailbag questions on Utah’s future after the Walker Kessler trade, whether the league is now devaluing small guards too much, and if OKC can keep their core together after this year.

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John is back from some time off and it's time to get his thoughts on all the major news of the last month. The Nuggets/Cavs Peyton Watson trade, Jonathan Kuminga to the Wolves, Bennedict Mathurin to the Pels, Klay Thompson to Miami, and the Dillon Brooks and Naji Marshall extensions.

0:19 Peyton Watson sign-and-trade: Denver’s decision and future options

13:45 Cleveland’s side of the Peyton Watson trade

19:27 Charlotte adds Dennis Schröder

20:12 Nuggets add DeMar DeRozan

24:05 Jonathan Kuminga to Minnesota

33:15 Pelicans add Bennedict Mathurin

41:41 Klay Thompson and the new-look Miami Heat

47:03 Dylan Brooks and Naji Marshall extensions; NBA spending trends

52:09 Zaccharie Risacher’s outlook in Dallas

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John takes a break from vacation to react to LeBron James landing in Philadelphia. We talk about the team’s strengths and weaknesses, how they can still improve, and then rank them in the East hierarchy.

We also hit on some of the biggest news in the last week including OKC matching Spencer Jones’ offer sheet, what we’d do as Peyton Watson’s agent, and how the Warriors should handle Steph Curry’s extension with Draymond Green back in the fold.

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John and Nate sweated and froze their way through a week on Nerd Row at the Vegas Summer League to tell you about everything they saw. Included:

Who will be the best rookie this year, and who will have the best career?

Who changed your opinion the most for the better?

Most disappointing player?

“I nailed this one,” guys who looked exactly like you thought they would

Who are you worried about?

Best defensive player?

Best rookie in the 2nd half of the first round?

Best “sleeper,” i.e. 2nd round or undrafted?

Best sophomore?

“Too good for summer league?”

Wish you were here

Most overrated summer league?

Most underrated summer league?

Victory lap (prematurely)

Looking rock solid, just going to be a solid NBA player

Pick you totally didn’t understand that was confirmed

Guy outside the top 10 that's most likely to become an all star after summer league

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John turns his seasoned front office eye to the pause in the Kawhi Leonard trade and the Bucks’ apparent circumvention with Gary Trent, Jr. Then, he and Nate discuss their favorite and least-favorite free agent deals and wrap up the offseason as it stands now.

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John and Nate start by revisiting the Jaylen Brown trade, hitting on whether Boston needed to make this trade now, and why Brown’s two-way versatility is underrated by analytics.

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Nate and John talk about what being in a front office is like this time of year, start to pivot to which of these huge moves has shaken up the league the most–but then react LIVE to the stunning Jaylen Brown trade.

Then they rank the other huge moves in order of which they think will affect the league the most going forward, and discuss some of the trends in free agency.

0:02 — Front-office chaos during free agency

8:03 — Jaylen Brown to Philadelphia live reaction

16:30 — Philadelphia’s side of the Jaylen Brown trade

22:57 — Boston’s return and market for Jaylen Brown

26:06 — Biggest offseason moves so far

27:38 — Kawhi trade and Toronto’s East outlook

34:38 — Boston’s direction after Jaylen Brown

35:25 — LaMelo trade and Minnesota’s reset

41:56 — Santi Aldama to Dallas

44:28 — Walker Kessler to the Lakers

53:32 — Lakers roster-building concerns

56:20 — Ja Morant to Portland

1:02:24 — Miles Bridges to Phoenix

1:03:55 — Rising center market

1:06:08 — Jonathan Kuminga, Denver, and remaining offseason questions

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Nate and John react to Giannis Antetokounmpo’s move to Miami, breaking down whether the Heat overpaid, Milwaukee’s return and Boston’s pursuit.

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John joins Nate to compare our draft boards. Hear why John has Cameron Boozer number 1, and Nate disagrees. Where do they disagree with the consensus on Darryn Peterson? Why does Nate have AJ number 1? Plus, we sort through the gaggle of point guards, including a big disagreement on Kingston Flemings. 25:46

But first, we give our big Finals takeaways, and discuss the Knicks going into the second apron and where the Spurs need to improve. Plus, whether the Celtics should pull the trigger on a Giannis trade.

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Hollinger & Duncan open with brief Knicks-Spurs Finals picks, then spend the episode on veteran extension decisions around the league: who should be extended now, who should wait, and where player options or trade value complicate the decision. The biggest themes are whether Cleveland should give Donovan Mitchell a massive extension, how Brooklyn/Phoenix/Washington should handle expensive veterans, and how teams like the Knicks, Clippers, Pacers, and Wolves can manage apron pressure while keeping flexibility.

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John Hollinger and Nate Duncan discuss where the conference finals are going from here after two crazy Game 1s, break down the firing of Jason Kidd and the hiring of Jamahl Mosley (22:22), discuss the trade market for first-rounders with the lottery changes 31:39 and hit on which centers might be acquirable this offseason, and finally assess how the Detroit Pistons can get better to truly compete for a championship. 46:21

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In the wake of a series of depressing playoff injuries, John and Nate take 30 minutes to brainstorm some potential rule changes they think would help.

Then we look back on week 3 of the playoff crucible and discuss the coaching moves that did and didn’t work, some disappointing players, and who withstood the playoff crucible and who turned to ash.

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Hollinger and Duncan react to Minnesota’s stunning series win over Denver, the Knicks’ historic Game 6 destruction of Atlanta, the proposed lottery reform, and the biggest strategic developments of the playoffs so far. They also hit Celtics-Sixers, Pistons-Magic, Lakers-Rockets, and the players who have either survived or been exposed by the playoff crucible.

• Nuggets-Wolves fallout — 1:27: Minnesota’s defense, Denver’s offensive and defensive issues, the state of the Nuggets around Nikola Jokić, and whether Denver can still contend in a loaded West.
• Knicks-Hawks — 12:19: New York’s historic beatdown of Atlanta, the Knicks’ series adjustments, Karl-Anthony Towns and OG Anunoby’s impact, and Atlanta’s offseason questions.
• Lottery reform — 24:07: The proposed new system, its anti-tanking incentives, and why it could make late-season basketball more watchable.
• Best teams and contender check-in — 32:33: Oklahoma City vs. San Antonio, the most impressive playoff performances so far, and Boston-Philly heading into Game 7.
• Coaching and tactical takeaways — 36:58: The best and worst coaching ideas of the playoffs, including San Antonio’s creativity and Portland’s struggles against Victor Wembanyama.
• Pistons-Magic and East bracket chaos — 39:39: Orlando’s depth issues without Franz Wagner, Detroit’s concerning matchup problems, Cleveland’s shaky path, and Toronto’s impressive adjustments.
• The playoff crucible — 48:49: Which players have been exposed or survived under postseason pressure, including Atlanta’s failed counters and Detroit’s center questions.
• Lakers-Rockets and other series notes — 53:56: Houston’s shortened rotation, Tari Eason’s importance, the Lakers’ health questions, Jalen Brown’s off-arm struggles, and the second-round outlook.
• Final playoff thoughts — 58:14: Potential Knicks-Celtics, Sixers-Knicks, Thunder-Spurs, and Embiid-Harden scenarios, plus closing thoughts on the postseason landscape.

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John and Nate look ahead to the playoffs, picking all 4 rounds and the eventual champions. Plus, they pick their:

Most interesting series

Least interesting series

Best Individual Matchup

Star player with the toughest matchup

Star player with the easiest matchup

Best coaching matchup

Biggest coaching mismatch

Series with the most variables

Rotation players most likely to have their roles cut

Deep rotation players who could emerge

Most important non-star player

Best playoff defense

Best playoff offense

Projected first round MVP

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John and Nate do their 3rd annual Star Movement Draft, as they pick the stars they think are most likely to be on another team by the start of the 2027-28 season.

But first, they catch up on Giannis’ latest comments on the dysfunction in Milwaukee, and discuss how the injuries to Luka Doncic and Austin Reaves will affect the Lakers’ future.

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John & Nate look at teams that have already been eliminated from the playoffs and discuss their futures. How good will Utah, Indiana, Dallas, Brooklyn, Washington, Memphis, and Sacramento be next year?

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