Podcast

Intrinsically Ordered

Christianity, Philosophy, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

Exploring the intersection of queer identity and catholicism - sharing stories of those who've left, remained, and created their own journeys; providing commentary on the catholic church's harmful teachings; helping those who've been hurt.

Episodes
90
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Weekly
Typical length
1 hr 9 min
On air since
2024
Latest episode
2 weeks ago

Episodes

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  1. I'm an Agnostic. I Read Every Religion's Holy Book. | River Ward's Journey from Christian Apologetics to Agnosticism

    Show notes

    What happens when you stop learning about other religions from Christian apologists and actually read their sacred texts?

    In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, I'm joined by River Ward (@SiennaRiverWard), a comparative religion content creator who has spent years studying the Bible, Quran, Bhagavad Gita, Tao Te Ching, Book of Mormon, and other foundational religious texts.

    Raised in conservative evangelical Christianity, River originally began studying other religions to defend her Christian faith. But the more she read, the more her understanding of God, religion, and belief began to change.

    We discuss what Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Daoism actually teach, how religious traditions understand God differently, and why the beliefs of religious practitioners don't always reflect their sacred texts.

    We also explore the limitations of Christian apologetics, the differences between religion and cults, the relationship between belief and belonging, and why River continues to find beauty in religion despite identifying as agnostic.

    Follow River Ward:
    Instagram: @sienna.river.ward
    YouTube: @SiennaRiverWard

    00:00 Comparative Religion Online
    01:23 What Counts as Religion
    04:29 From Apologetics to Anthropology
    10:00 Reading the Core Texts
    14:26 Paradigm Shifts in Daoism
    21:24 Confucius to the Gita
    26:10 Revisiting the Quran
    31:53 Text Versus Tradition
    36:57 Mormonism and Upanishads
    43:10 What Does Belief Mean
    47:44 Defining God and Experience
    53:39 Whats Next in Her Journey
    58:09 Charity as the Heart

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    59 min
  2. Can You Be Catholic And A Feminist? | Salina.Bear On Birth Control and Women's Rights

    Show notes

    In this episode, I sit down with Catholic feminist, lay theologian, and spiritual director-in-training Salina Bear to talk about her unlikely journey from Reformed Protestantism, through deconstruction, and ultimately into the Catholic Church.

    Salina shares how growing up with Calvinist ideas about God led her to question Christianity from an early age, why she eventually stepped away from organized religion, and how an existential crisis during COVID unexpectedly brought faith back into her life. She also tells the story of attending Eucharistic adoration for the first time convinced she needed to become Catholic.

    We also get into some of the questions that have made Selena's online work controversial: Can you be a Catholic feminist? What does the Church actually teach about primacy of conscience? Can faithful Catholics disagree with Church teaching? Is contraception an infallible teaching? And why does online Catholicism often look so different from the Catholicism people actually encounter in their parishes?

    Finally, we talk about her marriage to an Orthodox Christian, spiritual trauma, deconstruction and reconstruction, online traditionalism, and why Salina is training to become a spiritual director for people who want to heal from harmful experiences with Christianity without necessarily abandoning their faith.

    00:00 Meet Salina Bear
    02:49 Growing Up Reformed
    03:53 Calvinism and God Image
    07:29 Teen Faith and Doubts
    09:02 Church Leadership Disillusionment
    13:43 Stepping Away to Deconstruct
    15:01 COVID Panic and Return to Prayer
    20:41 First Mass and Liturgy Surprise
    22:33 Adoration Changed Everything
    26:47 Catholic and Orthodox Marriage
    35:53 Two Traditions Marriage
    39:51 Conscience and Autonomy
    41:40 Online Trad Toxicity
    44:24 Birth Control & Forming Conscience
    56:46 Reading Church Authority
    01:03:13 Becoming Spiritual Director

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    1 hr 9 min
  3. Why Aquinas' Five Ways Fail: Two Ex-Catholics Debunk JesusAndWhatnot's "How The Communist Manifesto Proves God's Existence"

    Show notes

    In this episode of Apostate’s Imprimatur, Colin and I react to Jesusandwhatnot’s video titled "How the Communist Manifesto Proves God's Existence," explanation of Aquinas’s famous Five Ways: the arguments from motion, efficient causality, contingency, degrees of perfection, and final causality.

    We dig into act and potency, infinite regress, first causes, divine simplicity, Aristotle, physics vs. metaphysics, and the assumptions hiding underneath these arguments. Even if we grant some version of a “first cause” or “unmoved mover,” how do we get from there to an all-knowing, all-powerful, all-loving personal God, much less the God of Christianity?

    Along the way, we ask whether Aquinas’s arguments describe reality, whether confusing someone with technical philosophical language actually proves anything, and why arguments that have been debated for centuries are still sometimes presented as obvious and uncontested proofs of God.

    Noah's original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUOZcbNeKIE

    00:00 Who Is Jesusandwhatnot
    09:33 Aquinas Five Ways Intro
    10:26 Motion Proof Explained
    13:47 Potency and Ontology Debate
    26:10 Causation Chain and Regress
    31:50 Physics Pushback and Forces
    34:03 Nothing Truly Begins
    36:32 From Prime Mover to God
    39:46 Special Pleading and Language
    41:02 Perfection Smuggled In
    52:29 Efficient Cause Argument
    54:23 Physics vs Metaphysics Definitions
    01:01:59 Infinite Regress and Cosmology
    01:06:18 Contingency and Nothingness
    01:08:09 Third Way Rehash
    01:12:58 Logic Above God
    01:16:07 Blendered Proofs Critique
    01:17:22 Degrees of Perfection Setup
    01:20:49 Fire Causes Heat Debunked
    01:23:13 Nominalism and Genus Problems
    01:25:26 Goodness Category Errors
    01:34:00 Begging the Maximum Cause
    01:35:44 Fifth Way Explained
    01:36:59 Teleology Meets Evolution
    01:39:10 Ends Are Human Uses
    01:45:38 Special Pleading Intelligence
    01:49:36 Modern Physics Pushback
    01:54:33 Summa Ethics Detour
    01:57:52 Thomism As Party Trick

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    2 hr 3 min
  4. Debunking: "Does Porn Make You Gay?" | What Psychological Studies Actually Shows About @JesusAndWhatnot's Claim

    Show notes

    After seeing Catholic apologist Noah (@Jesus.andwhatnot) argue that pornography may cause homosexual desires, I decided to dig into the actual research.

    In this video, I work through more than two dozen academic sources covering sexual orientation, sexual identity formation, pornography use, childhood abuse, correlation vs. causation, sexual fluidity, and sexual orientation change efforts. I also explain some of the basic research concepts that can help us distinguish a provocative correlation from evidence that one thing actually causes another.

    As a gay former traditional Catholic apologist myself, I also want to talk about why these claims matter beyond an academic debate. Ideas about sexual orientation being caused or changed by particular behaviors can quickly overlap with claims underlying conversion therapy and sexual orientation change efforts.

    My sources: https://gayextrad.substack.com/p/debunking-with-actual-studies-does

    Noah's original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXtY2xa9lFQ

    00:00 Does Porn Make You Gay?
    01:17 It's Not a Study
    01:34 Survey Not Study
    01:58 Orientation Is Complex
    03:44 Identity Attraction Behavior
    05:54 Porn Survey Problems
    12:32 Correlation Not Causation
    14:43 How To Test It
    17:17 Puberty And Timing
    18:34 What The Data Show
    21:54 Abuse Claim Reversed
    28:04 Hypothetheory Critique
    29:44 Disordered Language Harm
    31:28 Conversion Therapy Harms
    32:38 Causality And Methods
    35:55 Expert Consensus Matters
    41:12 Motte Bailey

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    44 min
  5. No, The Resurrection Is Not A Historical Fact - Part 2 - Responding to Trent Doherty on Pints With Aquinas

    Show notes

    Is the resurrection of Jesus actually a historical fact or does the argument only work if you begin with Christian assumptions?

    In part two of our deep dive into the historical case for the Resurrection, Colin and I examine some of the most popular arguments used by Christian apologists: the claim that the apostles wouldn’t die for a lie, the supposed eyewitness accounts of the risen Jesus, the 500 witnesses mentioned by Paul, the early creed in 1 Corinthians 15, and attempts to use probability and Bayes’ theorem to argue that the Resurrection is historically likely.

    We look at what we actually know about the deaths of the apostles, how the resurrection narratives developed across the Gospels, what Paul does—and doesn’t—claim to have witnessed, and whether early belief in the Resurrection is the same thing as evidence that it actually happened.

    00:00 Recap Minimal Facts
    02:20 Escaping Apologetics Maze
    03:55 Apostles Die for Lie
    11:11 Roman Guards Doubts
    24:10 500 Witnesses Problem
    26:49 Women at the Tomb Motif
    29:08 Doubting Thomas and Belief
    31:32 Memory and Legend Growth
    35:46 Mythic Tropes and Other Gospels
    39:57 Paul and the 500 Witnesses
    50:25 Visions and Bereavement Experiences
    54:48 Skepticism About 500
    56:52 Pauline Creed Timeline
    01:02:37 Memory And Mythmaking
    01:09:44 God Assumption Debate
    01:11:20 Additive Evidence Claim
    01:13:35 What Resurrection Means

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    1 hr 24 min
  6. Coming Out Made Me A Stronger Man: Gym Culture, Masculinity, and Entrepreneurship | @SigurdAuthentic

    Show notes

    In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, I sit down with @SigurdAuthentic, founder of Gay Unmasked, to hear his coming out story and explore what it actually takes to accept that you're gay.

    https://www.skool.com/gay-unmasked-4697/about

    Sigurd opens up about recognizing his attraction to men as a teenager, falling for his male best friend, wrestling with stereotypes about gay men, and eventually reframing what being gay meant to him. We talk about masculinity, strength, CBT, shame, self-acceptance, dating, coming out to family and friends, and why building a life around purpose became so important after coming out.

    We also dig into the philosophy behind Gay Unmasked, Sigurd's growing community for gay men, and his argument that coming out shouldn't be about asking other people for permission to be yourself.

    00:00 Coming Out Is Ongoing
    02:15 Early Signs and Denial
    04:19 Growing Up Around Masculinity
    11:16 Accepting It at 18
    13:25 Mac and First Real Feelings
    18:16 Reframing Gay Identity
    21:51 CBT and Strength Mindset
    25:44 First Confession to a Friend
    30:01 Coming Out to Dad and Friends
    31:46 Tinder Screenshot Plot Twist
    36:01 Strength as Shield
    36:29 Gym as Emotional Outlet
    38:40 Life Moves On Mindset
    40:39 Unmasking and Alan Watts
    47:06 After Coming Out Purpose
    49:21 Redirecting the Fight
    55:56 Dating Men and Identity
    01:05:44 Community and CBT Coaching
    01:11:33 Success Stories and Farewell

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    1 hr 16 min
  7. We Visited the Biggest Catholic Cult in America: The SSPX in St Mary's, Kansas (With Atheist Church Audit @Heliocentric and Mormons @AllThoseInFavor)

    Show notes

    I took an atheist and a Mormon on a road trip to St. Mary’s, Kansas to experience the SSPX firsthand.

    We attended a traditional Latin Mass, toured the massive Immaculata, talked with members of the community, and tried to understand what draws people to this intensely traditional form of Catholicism. Coming from three very different religious backgrounds (ex-traditional Catholic / current atheist, former Pentecostal / current atheist, and practicing Latter-day Saint), we each walked away with very different reactions.

    We talk about the beauty (and boredom) of the Latin Mass, Catholic tradition, relics, hell, Vatican II, the SSPX’s conflict with Rome, how outsiders are treated, and whether this community actually succeeds at its stated mission of saving souls.

    00:00 Heliocentric & All Those In Favor
    01:41 What Is the SSPX
    03:24 Expectations Going In
    05:03 Road Trip to St Marys
    06:43 First Sight of the Church
    08:22 Drone Shots and Suspicious Locals
    10:12 Medieval Dinner and Hotel
    11:34 Mass Morning and Naming the Building
    13:35 Inside the Immaculata First Impressions
    16:48 Silence Sunlight and Getting Shushed
    18:41 Latin Mass Reactions
    22:11 Relics and Ranking Spirituality
    30:27 SSPX Identity and Excommunication Denial
    33:28 Latin Mass Confusion
    34:10 Sermon Advice: Read Books
    39:24 Hellfire Afterlife
    41:21 Communion Rail Awkwardness
    45:59 Tour Guides And Lunch
    52:55 Trad Culture And Politics
    54:27 Human Stories And Mary
    59:17 Seeker Friendly Critique
    01:05:08 Final Takeaways Next Steps

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    1 hr 8 min
  8. Is the Resurrection of Jesus a Historical Fact? Atheists Respond to EVERY Resurrection Claim - Part 1 - (Trent Dougherty on Pints With Aquinas Reaction)

    Show notes

    Can history actually establish that Jesus rose from the dead?

    In this episode of Atheist Imprimatur, Colin and I take on one of the central arguments in Christian apologetics: that the Resurrection isn't merely something Christians believe by faith, but something we have good historical reasons to accept as fact.

    We examine the “minimal facts” approach associated with Gary Habermas, claims about the empty tomb, eyewitness testimony, early Christian belief, and the role our assumptions about God and miracles play in evaluating the evidence.

    More importantly, we ask a basic question that often gets lost in apologetics: What can historians actually establish—and where does historical evidence end and faith begin?

    This is Part 1 of our very long attempt to answer that question.

    00:00 Why This Resurrection Video
    07:28 Apologetics as Reassurance
    11:13 Faith Versus Evidence
    13:06 Appeal to Authority Problems
    23:22 God Exists Then Miracles
    27:42 Supernatural Explanations Spiral
    32:23 Is God Really 50/50?
    34:11 Historians and Resurrection Claims
    42:16 Easter Meditation Not Proof
    44:38 Habermas and Minimal Facts
    52:38 Three Es and Empty Tomb
    56:46 Sherlock Holmes Historiography
    01:00:57 Empty Tomb Sources and Context
    01:04:17 Empty Tomb Objections
    01:08:42 Why Not Produce the Body
    01:10:53 Acts and Early Movement
    01:13:35 Roman Religious Tolerance
    01:16:17 Three Explanations Critique
    01:21:35 Tomb Worship Skepticism
    01:25:19 They Wouldnt Die for a Lie

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    1 hr 33 min
  9. Left-Wing Influencers Share Why They Left Christianity: @OneHandPolitics @GregFromVideo1

    Show notes

    I sat down with ⁨@onehandpolitics⁩ and ⁨@GregFromVideo1⁩ to compare three very different journeys out of Christianity. We talk about growing up Catholic and Evangelical, youth group culture, religious colleges, belonging, political identity, critical thinking, and what life looks like after leaving faith behind. Rather than debating theology, we explore why people believe, why people leave, and what replaces religion once you've built your identity around it. Whether you're religious, deconstructing, or simply curious, I hope this conversation gives you something to think about.

    00:00 Mason's Backstory
    03:36 Greg Youth Group Spiral
    06:46 Cade Catholic Roots
    09:21 College Faith Cracks
    12:58 Scientology and Critical Thinking
    16:23 Mason Deconstruction Breakpoint
    22:54 Politics Meets Religion
    27:18 Biola Rules and Side B
    31:54 Belonging Beyond Religion
    38:19 Calvinism And NPC Thinking
    44:47 Will Religion Keep Declining?
    54:04 Is Atheism A Religion
    58:23 BITE Model Control Tactics
    01:03:28 In Groups Define Out Groups
    01:08:23 Tribalism And Power
    01:10:46 Which Atheists Irritate
    01:27:54 Science Is Not Ethics
    01:34:10 Religion Can Liberate

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    1 hr 38 min
  10. How My ADHD Made Me a Religious Extremist: From Joining Catholic Cults to Starting Medication This Year (Responding to Matt Walsh)

    Show notes

    DISCLAIMER: None of today's video should be used as medical advice. I am not a doctor, nor do I have any degrees in psychology/medication/etc. Only take medication under the supervision of a licensed medical provider.

    After being diagnosed with ADHD and spending the past year on medication, I've started looking very differently at my years in traditional Catholicism, my love of religious debates, and even the way I built this YouTube channel. Matt Walsh recently commented that 'psychiatry has done nothing for us,' and I use that clip as a jumping off point in today's video.

    In this video, I explore my hypothesis that ideological conflict can sometimes function as stimulation for an ADHD brain. I talk about how Catholic ritual and structure genuinely helped me manage symptoms I didn't yet understand, why I kept gravitating toward increasingly extreme religious positions, and why confrontation became such a powerful source of stimulation for me.

    I also share, for the first time, my experience taking ADHD medication: the fears I had about medication, masculinity, addiction, and changing my personality—and what actually happened after a year of treatment.

    00:00 - 1: Introduction

    01:54 - Outline

    02:09 - Disclaimers

    03:02 - 2: What Does An ADHD Brain Look Like?

    08:19 - 3: Why ADHD'ers Self-Medicate With Stimuli

    10:29 - 4: My Hypothesis: Extremism As Self Medication

    16:09 - 5: How Catholicism 'Helped' My ADHD

    21:29 - 6: ADHD As An Atheist YouTuber

    22:50 - 7: How I Got on ADHD Medication

    32:24 - 8.1: How Meds Have Changed Me

    34:45 - 8.2: What Meds Mean for My Channel

    36:21 - 9: Meds Aren't Perfect

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    38 min
  11. Catholic Apologist Accidentally Makes The Case for Secular Morality: Reacting to Brian Holdsworth

    Show notes

    In this episode, Colin and I react to Brian Holdsworth's video "I'm Not Strong Enough to Be an Atheist." We unpack his portrayal of atheism through John Lennon and Nietzsche, discuss whether morality really requires God, and examine where we think his arguments miss the mark. Along the way we talk about humanism, socialism, religion, objective morality, Catholic apologetics, and what life after faith actually looks like. If you've ever wondered whether atheism inevitably leads to nihilism—or whether that's a false choice—this conversation is for you.

    00:00 Back for Another Episode
    02:00 Two Kinds of Atheism Setup
    08:36 Commons Dilemma and Human Nature
    10:42 Socialism and Incentives Pushback
    17:55 Nietzsche and Moral Foundations
    21:56 Objective Morality Debate
    27:45 Master Morality and Power
    31:58 Young Men and Nietzsche’s Appeal
    34:32 Christianity vs Power Structures
    38:06 No True Catholicism
    42:34 Atheism Without Heroes
    47:24 ADA and Mutual Benefit
    48:46 Where Is the Thesis
    49:37 Crusades and Contradictions
    50:36 Nietzsche Illness as Gotcha
    54:49 Capitalism and Collective Care

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    1 hr 10 min
  12. Atheists, Here's How to Treat Joe Schmid After He Reverted to Catholicism.

    Show notes

    Joe Schmid from ⁨@MajestyofReason⁩ announced that he has returned to Catholicism. As an agnostic/atheist YouTuber who left catholicism, I’ve been thinking about how people should respond when someone leaves their religious or ideological group.

    In this video, I lay out my “Ten Commandments” for responding to someone whose beliefs have changed. Drawing from my own experience leaving Catholicism and coming out, I talk about listening before arguing, taking people’s stated reasons seriously, respecting their autonomy, avoiding tribal “wins” and “losses,” and remembering that a person is always more important than the culture war surrounding them.

    I’ll have plenty to say about Joe’s arguments for Catholicism in future videos. But before we debate his reasons, I think atheists, Catholics, and everyone else should remember how to treat the person making the decision.

    00:00 Joe Schmid Converts
    01:06 1: Keep the Person First
    02:57 2: Accept Change
    04:43 3: Listen Twice
    06:17 4: Define Words
    07:43 5: Trust Reasons
    09:03 6: Limited Knowledge
    10:33 7:Lead With Empathy
    11:22 8: Respect Autonomy
    12:43 9: Stay Connected
    14:47 10: Process Privately
    16:04 My Next Video

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    17 min
  13. Ex-Priest Psychologist: The Hidden Psychology After Coming Out as LGBT

    Show notes

    Coming out is often portrayed as the happy ending—but for many people, it's only the beginning.

    In this conversation with former Catholic priest and licensed therapist Danny Peterson, we explore why so many LGBTQ people who come out later in life feel like they're reliving adolescence as adults. We discuss religious trauma, dating, therapy, identity, relationships, extended adolescence, ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy), and what happens after the excitement of coming out fades into ordinary life.

    We also talk about why relationships don't magically become easy, why many people search for gurus or simple answers after leaving religion, and how learning to tolerate uncertainty can become one of the healthiest parts of healing.

    00:00 From Priest to Therapist
    03:55 Extended Adolescence Explained
    09:52 Healthy Coming Out Skills
    13:13 Values and Red Flags
    18:09 Sex vs Relationship First
    20:59 Finding Mentors and Community
    28:21 The Coming Out Paradox
    33:38 ACT and Moving Forward
    41:30 Facing Hard Truths
    46:42 Ditching Gurus Dogma
    53:40 Therapy Expectations Reality
    57:41 Allyship Religion Safeguards
    01:00:16 Finding A Therapist
    01:04:15 Private Practice Wrap Up

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    1 hr 7 min
  14. Why Anti-Gay Catholic Arguments Assume Everyone is Bisexual

    Show notes

    In this episode, Colin and I react to Brian Holdsworth's video asking whether "gay priests" are even a real thing. What starts as a discussion about labels quickly turns into a much bigger conversation about sexual orientation, Catholic theology, history, identity, and how the Church talks about same-sex attraction.

    We unpack the arguments, examine where we think the reasoning breaks down, and discuss why language matters when talking about real people. Along the way we dive into Pope Francis' comments on seminaries, the 2005 Vatican instruction on admitting men with same-sex attraction to the priesthood, ancient Greek sexuality, bisexuality, orientation, and why analogies don't always prove what people think they prove.

    00:00 Pride Month Banter
    01:06 Reacting to Brian Holdsworth
    03:09 Pope Francis Quote Fallout
    05:13 Ancient Rome Was Gay
    08:20 Labels and Orientation Debate
    13:54 Appetites and Identity Claim
    17:49 Catholic Analogy Time
    22:17 Cravings vs Human Love
    25:04 Appetites Make You Gayer
    31:55 Short Term Hookups Critique
    35:46 Dehumanizing the Gay Label
    38:15 Labels and Identity Sprawl
    38:52 Paradox of Tolerance Rant
    39:51 Honorary Gender Studies
    40:38 Dodging the Priest Question
    41:16 Chastity vs Gay Label
    42:29 Church Policy Contradictions
    44:29 Food and Gluttony Analogy
    46:50 Spectrum and Ancient World
    51:31 Frauds and Sacraments
    55:10 Title Not Description Confusion
    57:00 Trad Conspiracy Briefcase
    01:00:02 Sponsor Break Real Estate
    01:01:15 Why Labels Help Research
    01:07:29 Why So Many Gay Priests
    01:10:50 Growing Up Without Language
    01:15:47 Landing the Plane Conclusion

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    1 hr 16 min
  15. Hollywood Cinematographer Debunks "Miracle of the Sun" Photo | Our Lady of Fatima (re: Ethan Muse)

    Show notes

    A Catholic priest (Fr Philippe Dalleur) and youtuber (Ethan Muse) have argued that shadows in photographs taken at Fatima in 1917 provide scientific evidence for extraordinary sources of light in the sky. So I spent more than 100 hours investigating the claim, since my entire job revolves around working with cameras and lighting as a cinematographer.

    00:00 - A "Miraculous" Photo?
    01:03 - How the Science Should Work
    02:32 - What Was Our Lady of Fatima?
    03:34 - Series Overview (Skip This)
    05:08 - Lenses Loose a Dimension
    08:56 - Reason #1: Can't Really Calculate a Lost Dimension
    11:27 - How to Actually Calibrate Lenses
    14:14 - Reason #2: Vintage Lenses Make It Even Harder
    16:17 - The Third Dimension
    18:10 - Reason #3: They Didn't Validate Their Methods
    19:13 - Reason #4: Shadows Can't Really Be Measured
    22:13 - Example Optics of Similar Scene
    22:52 - Preview of Part 2: Lies in Development

    This is a three part series. Part 1 (this video) covers why lenses make these calculations almost impossible without calibration. Part 2 will cover their terrible development process and post-production deception. And then Part 3 will recreate the lighting effect they're talking about.

    Source #1: "Fatima Pictures and Testimonials: in-depth Analysis" published on March 8, 2021in Scientia et Fides (keep in mind, this is not a peer reviewed science journal, they claim it's 'peer reviewed' but the peers are humanities people)
    Source #2: "Fatima's Miracle Photo D115 - Sun Height Estimation" published on Sep 24, 2021 on the YouTube channel "BioPhilo" (I confirmed with Ethan that this is Dalleur's channel)
    Source #3: "Sun Elevation Evaluation Technique + HUD" published on Aug 10, 2022 on the YouTube channel "BioPhilo"
    Source #4: "Our Lady of Fatima" published on Sep 5, 2025 by Ethan Muse on his substack.
    Source #5: "It Wasn't the Sun!" published on Oct 10, 2025 by Ethan Muse on his substack.
    Source #6: "Catholic vs. Atheist: Was Fatima Miraculous?" of Ethan Muse and James Fodor on Jul 18, 2026 on the "Capturing Christianity" YouTube channel hosted by Cameron Burtuzzi

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    24 min
  16. Inside the SSPX: Former Member Explains the ENTIRE History and Excommunication of the Society of Saint Pious the X

    Show notes

    The recent SSPX excommunications have left a lot of Catholics—and even journalists—trying to understand what actually happened. In this episode, I sit down with Hunter, a former SSPX traditionalist (and also former sedevacantist seminarian), to unpack the history behind the headlines.

    We explain Vatican II, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, the founding of the SSPX, the 1988 episcopal consecrations, the creation of the FSSP, and why Pope Leo XIV's decision is different from previous popes. We also discuss how traditionalist movements understand authority, conscience, and obedience, and why this controversy has been building for decades rather than weeks.

    00:00 SSPX Excommunication News
    00:55 Hunter’s Trad Journey
    03:31 What Happened In July in Econe, Switzerland
    05:34 Nuclear Excommunication Explained
    09:02 Vatican II Basics
    12:06 Lefebvre and SSPX Origins
    16:12 Spirit of Vatican II Debates
    21:33 Key Doctrinal Flashpoints
    27:28 Subsistit In Controversy
    30:28 1974 Declaration and Breakaway
    33:50 1983 Split and Sedevacantists
    36:04 Obedience Paradox and Fallout
    36:57 Bad Commands vs Doctrine
    37:42 Sedevacantists Inside SSPX
    41:15 1988 Bishops and Split
    44:17 Valid vs Licit Sacraments
    46:51 Obedience Paradox and Conscience
    57:54 July Consecrations Fallout
    01:03:24 Will SSPX Radicalize
    01:07:09 Future of Trad Groups
    01:09:49 Wrap Up and Thanks

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    1 hr 12 min
  17. Why Do Catholic Influencers Excuse Right-Wing Catholics and Condemn Left-Wing Catholics?

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    In this episode of Apostate Imprimatur, Colin and I react to Brian Holdsworth's video asking how to tell a "real" Catholic from a "fake" Catholic. What starts as a discussion about Catholic identity quickly turns into debates about language, gender, authority, and whether Catholic apologetics consistently apply their own standards.

    We discuss why so much Catholic YouTube feels like insider baseball, examine Brian's analogies about chairs, cars, and police officers, and argue that many conservative critiques of gender misunderstand what gender scholars are actually saying. Along the way, we talk about Catholic definitions, language change, trans identities, Church authority, and why some apologetic arguments seem persuasive only if you've never encountered the opposing viewpoint.

    00:00 Episode Two Kickoff
    01:20 Trad Cath Vibes and Profanity
    02:33 Series Format and Feedback
    05:12 Cue the Candace Owens Video
    05:58 Catholic YouTube Insider Baseball
    08:57 Cookie Break and Hot Takes
    12:04 Who Counts as Catholic
    13:21 Gender Detour What Is a Woman
    23:33 Police Officer Analogy
    30:00 Definitions Language and Power
    34:18 Matter Form and Sacraments
    38:11 Chair Example and Cake Chairs
    38:58 What Counts as a Chair
    39:19 Context Makes Words Work
    40:19 Chairs and Trans Analogies
    41:33 Form Matter and Sacraments
    41:57 Car Parts and Functionality
    44:35 Personhood Corpses and Souls
    47:04 Uncanny Feelings Explained
    49:42 Internal Bonds vs External Bonds
    52:24 Defining Catholic Membership
    57:06 Fake Catholic vs Not Catholic
    01:03:56 SSPX and Legitimate Authority
    01:10:29 Gender Debate and Word Games
    01:17:10 Wrap Up and Next Video

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    1 hr 18 min
  18. Why Conservative Christian Should Oppose Conversion Therapy - Pieter Valk (LPC)

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    What if the conversation around Christianity and LGBT people is far more complicated than either side admits?

    In this episode, I sit down with therapist, author, and speaker Peter Valk (LPC) to explore one of the most difficult conversations happening in the Church today. We discuss conversion therapy, Side B Christianity, historic Christian sexual ethics, language surrounding sexuality and gender, why many churches struggle to talk about these topics well, and how pastors, parents, and Christians can approach these conversations with greater compassion and honesty.

    Whether you agree with Peter's conclusions or not, this conversation is about understanding the complexity behind the headlines and moving beyond culture-war talking points toward thoughtful dialogue.

    00:00 Meet Peter Valk
    03:49 Why This Should Matter for Both Sides
    11:35 Labels and Language
    14:56 Gender Terms Explained
    17:40 Identity Label Debate
    20:30 Pastors and Discomfort
    23:08 Sacred Cows
    25:57 Listening Without Fear
    29:55 Coming Out Well
    33:36 Respectful Questions
    35:43 Resources to Learn
    37:42 Practical Church Steps
    42:14 Clear Welcome Messages
    47:35 Conversion Therapy Warning
    54:45 Long Term Support
    58:01 Wrap Up and Where to Find

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    1 hr
  19. Why Online Catholics Are Fighting About Pre-Marital Kissing: Online Extremism and Toxic Saint Quotes

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    In this episode, Colin, Kevin NonTradiCath, and I react to Christian Wagner and Noah/Jesus and Whatnots' argument that kissing before marriage is sinful and compare it with the historical sources he cites. Along the way, we explore the writings of St. Alphonsus Liguori, medieval and early modern Catholic sexual ethics, Christopher West, Theology of the Body, and whether Catholics can really claim that the Church has always taught one consistent moral framework.

    We also discuss how debates like this reveal a deeper issue: if Catholics still have to decide which saints, theologians, and authorities to follow, is Catholicism really as different from Protestantism as many apologists claim?

    00:00 Podcast Intro and Chaos
    00:59 Meet Kevin and the Premise
    01:53 Can You Kiss Your Girlfriend
    04:14 Why This Debate Matters
    06:34 Who Is Christian Wagner
    11:36 Watching the No Kissing Video
    12:28 Laxity and Catholic Authority
    16:14 Near Occasion of Sin Stories
    20:57 Alphonsus Quotes and Sex Panic
    23:53 Skipping Ahead to the Argument
    26:20 Repression and Catholic Guilt
    28:33 Kevin Pulls the Alphonsus Book
    31:00 Who Was Alphonsus Liguori
    32:13 Liguori Moral Doctor
    34:03 Doctors You Cant Disagree
    36:37 Modesty Of The Eyes
    37:49 Dont Look At Women
    47:54 Mortal Sin By Looking at Kids
    50:03 Repression And Obsession
    52:42 Modesty In Speech
    55:16 Laughter Under Scrutiny
    01:01:44 Fasting And Health Claims
    01:04:35 Holy Lettuce Possession
    01:06:59 Liguori And Extremes
    01:07:57 Rules Over Harm
    01:08:41 Drowning Rescue Caveats
    01:11:37 Magisterial Minimalism
    01:14:02 Three Tier Authority Critique
    01:19:58 Fallible Framework Problem
    01:20:27 No Infallible List
    01:25:19 Back To Kissing Debate
    01:26:53 Jimmy Akin Weigh Teachings
    01:30:46 Protestantism With Extra Steps
    01:34:04 Real World Harm
    01:39:53 Final Takeaways And Goodbye

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    1 hr 41 min
  20. Ex-Pastor Reacts to Famous Christian Pastor's Toxic Relationship Advice w/ Brian Recker

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    Christian marriage advice often sounds inspiring, but what happens when it encourages people to ignore compatibility, personal calling, financial realities, or even their own well-being?

    In this episode, I sit down with former evangelical pastor ⁨@BrianRecker⁩ to examine one of the biggest Christian relationship influencers online and unpack the messages behind his viral marriage advice. We talk about purity culture, patriarchy, complementarianism, having large families, fear-based theology, and how these ideas shape dating, marriage, and parenting in both evangelical and conservative Catholic circles.

    We also discuss why so much Christian relationship advice focuses on roles instead of people, how hell and religious fear influence life decisions, and what healthier, more equal relationships can look like after deconstruction.

    Read Brian's new book 'Hell Bent' - https://a.co/d/0ad4Sd2D
    Brian's substack: https://brianrecker.substack.com

    00:00 Brian’s Evangelical Background
    02:51 Fear of Hell and Assurance
    05:23 Purity Culture and Sexual Shame
    07:03 Who Is Ryan Miller
    09:25 Love at First Sight Claims
    11:57 Wife and Mom as Calling
    17:07 Parenting Overwhelm and Pressure
    22:48 Spiritual Bypassing and Big Families
    30:01 Have More Kids Than You Can Afford
    37:07 Comments Reveal the Harm
    43:42 Hell as a Control Mechanism
    47:05 A Healthier Christian Vision
    48:33 Relearning Relationships Resources
    52:33 Where to Follow Brian
    54:03 Final Thanks and Wrap Up

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    54 min