Jennifer Rothschild Show

The Trinity may seem like a complicated doctrine about who God is, but what if it actually has something important to say about how we can relate to others?

In this conversation, chaplain and theologian Liz Daye shares what the Trinity can teach you about your everyday relationships. Because when you understand the relational nature of God, you get a clearer picture of what a healthy, flourishing community can look like.

Liz unpacks the mystery of the Trinity to show you the beauty of belonging to God's family. She explains how the Trinity is a template for relating to one another and how it can move us from an isolated, individualistic faith toward a faith that is deeply connected to the people God has placed around us.

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LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

• Get Liz's book, Interwoven Discipleship: How the Trinity Redefines Power, Belonging, and Christian Community
• Visit Liz's Website

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Did you know friendship isn't just a social add-on or an emotional luxury? It's part of God's blueprint for life. So how do you build meaningful relationships in a world where we're more relationally disconnected than ever?

Pastor and speaker Wayne Francis joins me to explore how Jesus modeled friendship—and what His example can teach us about doing relationships well.

Drawing from Scripture, lived experience, and years of ministry in New York City, Pastor Wayne explains why meaningful friendship requires vulnerability—which can sound very scary, especially if you fear rejection, struggle to trust, or want to stay in control. But when your security and identity are rooted in Christ, it's not as risky as you may think.

We talk about what it takes to move beyond surface-level connections, how to take the first step toward deeper friendship, and why vulnerability is worth the risk—even when it feels uncomfortable. So settle in, and let's learn how to do relationships like Jesus.

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LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

• Get Wayne's book, Make Friends with Anyone: Practicing God's Design for Real Friendship in a Lonely World
• Visit Wayne's Website

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Have you ever thought, "This is what I prayed for—so why am I struggling with it?" Maybe your prayer was answered, but now you're feeling overwhelmed, exhausted, or even sad. It can be confusing, right?

Well, be encouraged, my friend, because today, author Melissa Miller helps us understand why living in God's "yes" can sometimes be harder than we expected.

Drawing from Scripture, neuroscience, and her own experience, Melissa explains why blessings can be both beautiful and difficult at the same time. She'll help you put words to what you're experiencing and see that just because you're struggling doesn't mean you're ungrateful or shouldn't feel the way you do.

So, if you're living in a season you once prayed for but wondering why it feels so hard, listen in. You may discover that the mess doesn't mean something has gone wrong—it may simply mean you're still learning how to live in the blessing.

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LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

• Hope of Heaven Tour
• Get Melissa's book, But I Prayed for This: What to Do When Living in God's Yes Is Harder Than You Expected
• Visit Melissa's Website

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What if we haven't gotten Christianity wrong—but haven't fully appreciated it for all it's worth? That's what we're exploring today with Dr. Alister E. McGrath, a renowned Christian scholar, Oxford professor, author, and former atheist.

After sharing his journey from atheism to faith, Dr. McGrath explains how Christianity isn't just true; it can profoundly transform our lives. Because it isn't just an idea to believe; it's a reality to experience.

And even though it's more than 2,000 years old, Christianity can still speak powerfully to the human heart, addressing many of life's biggest questions, such as "Who am I? What am I worth? What's my purpose? And what can I do?"

So, if your faith has become all too familiar—or if you're wondering if what you believe is even relevant—listen in! This conversation will give you a fresh perspective and help you see what a difference Christianity can make.

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LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

• Get Alister's book, Rethinking Christianity: A Thoughtful Guide to a Life-Changing Faith
• I also recommend Alister's books, C. S. Lewis -- A Life: Eccentric Genius, Reluctant Prophet and Science & Religion: A New Introduction
• Visit Alister's Website

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What do you do when life doesn't turn out the way you hoped—and you're left wondering, "Where are You, God?"

Singer-songwriter, author, and my friend, Tammy Trent, knows that question personally. When a devastating tragedy struck, Tammy had to grieve not only what she had lost, but also release the life she thought she would have. It wasn't easy, but as she walked through her deep pain and loss, she learned to trust God's presence and character.

So today, Tammy gives us biblical insight and practical tools for facing the hard questions we all ask in seasons of pain and disappointment. We talk about navigating unmet expectations and unanswered prayers, grieving without losing hope, and finding the strength to endure when life feels impossible.

If you've ever felt like God is silent, distant, or nowhere to be found in the middle of your pain, Tammy will remind you that your questions don't disqualify your faith—and that you are never alone.

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LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

• Listen to Tammy "spill the beans" with Ann Voskamp, Annie F. Downs, Liz Curtis Higgs, and Shaun Groves
• Get Tammy's book, Where Are You Now, God? Discovering the Unshakable Truth that You're Never Alone
• Visit Tammy's Website
• God is Just Not Fair: Finding Hope When Life Doesn't Make Sense - book by Jennifer Rothschild
• Missing Pieces: Real Hope When Life Doesn't Make Sense - Bible study by Jennifer Rothschild

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What if the hard things in your life aren't just something to get through—but opportunities to grow stronger on the other side?

In this episode, Leslie Bosserman and I talk about emotional endurance: what it is, why it matters to your faith, and how you can develop it even when you're not fully aware of your emotions. Leslie teaches you how to build your emotional muscles so you can face challenges and persevere through setbacks and disappointment.

Plus, Leslie will teach you to "Say Goodbye to Someday," a skill that will help you stop living in the shoulds, coulds, and somedays and start asking what God might be doing in you right now.

So, if you're facing a difficult season, feeling stretched too thin, or simply want to be prepared for whatever comes next, this conversation will give you practical tools to keep going, keep growing, and trust God with the process.

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LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

• Get Leslie's book, Emotional Endurance: Faith-Fueled Skills for Bouncing Back
• Get your FREE GIFTS from Leslie
• Watch Leslie's TEDX talk
• Visit Leslie's Website
• Me, Myself, & Lies: What to Say When You Talk to Yourself - book by Jennifer Rotschild

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Praying the same prayer every day might sound repetitive or rigid, but when Pastor Matt Smallbone made the radical decision to pray the Lord's Prayer every day for a year, it changed much more than his prayer routine. It changed his daily walk with God.

In this episode, Matt talks about his "prayer experiment," sharing what he discovered about the barriers that keep us from prayer, how the Lord's Prayer gives us a framework without becoming a formula, and what he would say to those who feel reluctant or discouraged about prayer.

And then… we're not just going to talk about prayer; we're going to pray together as worship leader and songwriter Michael O'Brien sings over us the Lord's Prayer.

So, if you're wondering whether you're praying the "right" way, struggling to pray consistently, or questioning whether your prayers really make a difference, this conversation will meet you right where you are.

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THE LORD'S PRAYER

Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. (Matthew 6:9-13)

LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

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• When You Pray: A Study of Six Prayers in the Bible
• The Lord's Prayer - song by Michael O'Brien

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Welcome to the Jennifer Rothschild Show! I'm so glad you're here. In this trailer, I'll tell you what the show is all about, what you can expect, and why you'll want to pull up a chair and listen in each week. It's where thoughtful people come to grow, so get ready—let's grow together!

"But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen." (2 Peter 3:18)

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What do you do when your relationship with your adult child isn't what you hoped it would be?

Maybe your child is struggling and you want to help, but your advice comes across as criticism. Maybe you disagree with their parenting choices, worry because they've walked away from the faith, or feel heartbroken because they've cut off contact altogether.

In this conversation, Dr. Kathy Koch offers biblical wisdom and practical help for navigating these complicated relationships.

You'll discover how your relationship with your children needs to change as they become adults, what heart posture to have toward them, and how to communicate in ways that build connection instead of conflict. Dr. Kathy also shares specific things to avoid saying when you're trying to coach an adult child, along with a few communication hacks to help you relate to them more effectively.

Whether you're frustrated, discouraged, or grieving a relationship that isn't what you thought it would be, this conversation will remind you that there is still hope—and that you can love your adult children well, even when the relationship is hard.

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LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

• Heaven for Today: 60 Devotions on How the Life to Come Changes Your Life Right Now - book by Jennifer Rothschild
• Resolve Conflict and Find Peace and Hope with Adult Children: Strategies and Conversations that Work - book by Dr. Kathy Koch

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Elijah's story is filled with dramatic miracles, courageous faith, and unforgettable moments. But if you look a little closer, you'll find someone who isn't all that different from you!

He knew fear. He experienced exhaustion. He wrestled with discouragement. And in between the extraordinary moments, there were long seasons of ordinary, faithful obedience.

So in this first episode of the Jennifer Rothschild Show, best-selling author Max Lucado joins me to explore what Elijah's life can teach us about facing fear with faith, praying boldly, and trusting God through both the extraordinary and the ordinary.

You'll discover what courage really is (and what it isn't), why the power of prayer has always been in the God who hears us—not the one who prays—and how to live with an expectation of divine disruption while faithfully serving God in the everyday. Because the same God who strengthened Elijah is faithful to strengthen you too… no matter what season you're in!

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LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

• Unbreakable Courage: Strong Faith in an Age of Anxiety, Chaos, and Exhaustion by Max Lucado
• Listen to other podcast episodes with Max Lucado on taming your thoughts or finding happiness

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Last week, KC caught me off guard with a series of thoughtful questions I never saw coming. Well... we're back with Part 2!

In this episode, our conversation continues as KC asks who I really am when the microphone is off, what might surprise you about my walk with God, whether I'm really as confident as I seem, which biblical figure I'd most want to share a cup of coffee with, and the one thing I hope every listener knows about God.

By the end of our conversation, I was reminded how valuable it is to simply sit down with someone over a cup of coffee and ask meaningful questions. Because the more we learn about each other, the more we learn about ourselves—and ultimately, the more we learn about God.

So after you listen, I hope you'll do just that. Grab a friend, pour a cup of coffee, and maybe even borrow a few of KC's questions. You never know what you might discover!

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I get asked questions all the time, but I was caught off guard when KC turned the mic back on and started asking some thoughtful (and surprising!) questions… about ME!

I had no idea what was coming, and honestly, I didn't even know some of my own answers until I said them out loud. But it was so much fun that I thought you might enjoy listening in.

In Part 1 of our conversation, KC asked about my best life hack of all time, what people often assume about me that's completely wrong, who has shaped my faith more than anyone else, and what I hope every woman remembers long after she reads one of my books or attends one of my events.

But that's not all… KC had plenty more questions, and we just couldn't fit them all into one episode!

So be sure to join me next week for Part 2, where we talk about who I am when the microphone is off, what might surprise you about my walk with God, whether I'm really as confident as I seem, and the one thing I hope every listener knows about God.

SHOW NOTES: https://413podcast.com/aboutJR1

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You've laughed with Tim Hawkins for years—but today, you get to meet the man behind the comedy.

In episode 413 of the 4:13 Podcast (wink!), Tim shares the story behind his journey into comedy, the failures that shaped him, and what he's learned about making people laugh. And (spoiler alert!) it's not about being witty or delivering the perfect punchline.

You'll also find out how he decides which jokes become part of his routines (including his popular song parodies), which topics don't make the cut, and how his family feels about becoming part of the act.

But more importantly, you'll get to hear Tim's heart. He's clever, thoughtful, and passionate about using the gifts God has given him well. Because, as C.S. Lewis says, "joy is the serious business of Heaven," and it should be at the heart of how we live out our calling.

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SHOW NOTES: https://413podcast.com/413

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What if the most meaningful moments of your year weren't the big milestones—but the ordinary ones you almost missed? In this special bonus episode, I'm inviting you to slow down, pay attention, and look at life differently.

As we flip through some of my favorite "audio pictures" from 2025, I'm bringing you into my world to show you how everyday moments can become sacred memories when we choose to notice them.

You'll hear moments from ministry travels, laughter with my BFFs, practicing a dance with my son before his wedding, my prayer plant rescue mission, and peaceful moments by the lake.

After listening to this episode, you may find yourself noticing your own everyday moments a little differently—and discovering joy, gratitude, and God's goodness in places you might have otherwise overlooked.

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Delighting in God changes everything. It changes how you experience faith, relationships, and even your circumstances. But what if you've lost your delight in God—or what if you've never really experienced it in the first place?

Well today on the 4:13, Stephanie Rousselle explores what it really means to "delight yourself in the Lord" (Psalm 37:4). She shares her remarkable journey from atheism to faith and explains how her French background gave her a fresh understanding of what it truly means to "taste and see that the Lord is good."

You'll discover that delighting in God isn't another thing to add to your spiritual to-do list. It's the very thing your soul has been craving!

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Come along as I take you on a journey through Ireland. But there's no passport required for this trip because in this special BONUS episode, we're going there with our ears.

Instead of sharing photos, I'm sharing "audio pictures"—the recordings I make to capture the moments around me. As someone who is blind, these little audio snapshots help me revisit memories without being able to see them, and today, you'll get to experience them with me.

From the lively streets of Dublin and Belfast to the breathtaking Giant's Causeway and places connected with C.S. Lewis and the world of Narnia, you'll hear the sounds, conversations, and little moments that invite us to delight in the beauty of God's creation.

So settle in, listen closely, and let your imagination carry you to Ireland—one audio picture at a time.

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Are you a morning person? Well, what if I told you we're ALL morning people? Hmm…

Today on the 4:13, author Jennifer Dukes Lee shares what she discovered after studying more than 200 mornings in Scripture—and her findings just might change the way you think about mornings altogether.

You'll learn the difference between a morning routine and a morning ritual, why God's mercies really can reshape your day, and how to create a morning practice that fits your personality and season of life.

Plus, you'll discover how Jesus approached the start of His day, what to do when life feels too busy for quiet time, and one simple shift that can move your mornings from dread to hope.

So, if you're longing to begin each day with greater purpose, intention, and joy, listen in. This conversation will help you encounter God in the first moments of your day—and carry that perspective into everything that follows.

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Have you ever heard of emotional hoarding? It's when we not only carry the emotional baggage that weighs us down—we stockpile it, nurture it, and refuse to let it go.

So, today on the 4:13, author Laurie Davies explains how unresolved emotions can quietly affect our relationships, our spiritual lives, and even our physical health. She unpacks the hidden dangers of holding on to emotions like worry, regret, dread, and bitterness—and why they can become so familiar that we don't even recognize their hold on us.

But Laurie doesn't just help you identify the clutter. She'll show you how to clear it!

You'll learn how to uncover the root of what's keeping you stuck, process those harmful emotions instead of possessing them, and get on the path to freedom.

It's time to toss out the emotional weight that adds no value to your life and move from hoarding to healing.

SHOW NOTES: https://413podcast.com/410

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You've probably heard the Prayer of St. Francis—but did St. Francis actually write it? Hmm… well, today you're going to find out.

On this episode of 4:13, author and pastor Mark DeYmaz explores the beloved Prayer of St. Francis of Assisi and why its message is just as powerful and relevant today as ever.

He explains how this timeless prayer can become a practical guide for navigating conflict, division, and tension in our relationships and communities, revealing that prayer isn't passive at all—it can be deeply disruptive.

So, if you've ever wondered what it really means to be a peacemaker—or how to pursue peace without compromising truth—listen in. This conversation brings ancient wisdom to the modern challenges we face every day.

SHOW NOTES: https://413podcast.com/409

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Suffering. Grief. Disappointment. Loss. Any one of these can shake us to our core. So how are we supposed to trust God when everything seems to go wrong?

On this episode, Anne Graham Lotz (daughter of Billy Graham) and her daughter, Rachel-Ruth Lotz Wright, walk through the story of Joseph—a man who experienced betrayal, false accusation, and unfair circumstances that turned his life upside down.

So how did Joseph remain steadfast in his faith?

Anne and Rachel-Ruth explain how God's presence brings peace even in life's deepest pits. You'll discover why suffering is never wasted and how God uses even our hardest seasons to guide us, grow us, and bring about His greater purpose.

SHOW NOTES: https://413podcast.com/408

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