Legal Speak

In this week's Legal Speak episode, law.com senior editor Christine Simmons and Mesa Five managing shareholder Blane Prescott discuss the end of the lockstep compensation era in Big Law and what facilitated the change.

Hosts: Patrick Smith & Cedra Mayfield

Reporter: Christine Simmons

Guest: Blane Prescott

Producer: Charles Garnar

For the first time, Legal Speak recorded live podcast episodes from RelFest Chicago 2026 during Relativity's annual conference hosted September 29th through October 1st at the Hyatt Regency.

Centered around legal technology, legal data, e-discovery and the growing use of artificial intelligence in legal work, the gathering brought together roughly 2,000 members of the legal intelligence community, including lawyers, legal technology professionals, corporate legal teams, litigation support and e-discovery specialists, judges, consultants and technology providers.

In this episode recorded live from the conference floor, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with Jessica Tseng Hasen, Senior Counsel and the U.S. Lead at Ashurst Perkins Coie

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: Jessica Tseng Hasen

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all the RelFest conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.

For the first time, Legal Speak recorded live podcast episodes from RelFest Chicago 2026 during Relativity's annual conference hosted September 29th through October 1st at the Hyatt Regency.

Centered around legal technology, legal data, e-discovery and the growing use of artificial intelligence in legal work, the gathering brought together roughly 2,000 members of the legal intelligence community, including lawyers, legal technology professionals, corporate legal teams, litigation support and e-discovery specialists, judges, consultants and technology providers.

In this episode recorded live from the conference floor, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with Johnathan Hill, the Senior Manager of Soical Impact at Relativity

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: Johnathan Hill

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all the RelFest conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.

For the first time, Legal Speak recorded live podcast episodes from RelFest Chicago 2026 during Relativity's annual conference hosted September 29th through October 1st at the Hyatt Regency.

Centered around legal technology, legal data, e-discovery and the growing use of artificial intelligence in legal work, the gathering brought together roughly 2,000 members of the legal intelligence community, including lawyers, legal technology professionals, corporate legal teams, litigation support and e-discovery specialists, judges, consultants and technology providers.

In this episode recorded live from the conference floor, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with Susan Stone, Director of Discovery Technology at AT&T.

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: Susan Stone

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all the RelFest conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.

For the first time, Legal Speak recorded live podcast episodes from RelFest Chicago 2026 during Relativity's annual conference hosted September 29th through October 1st at the Hyatt Regency.

Centered around legal technology, legal data, e-discovery and the growing use of artificial intelligence in legal work, the gathering brought together roughly 2,000 members of the legal intelligence community, including lawyers, legal technology professionals, corporate legal teams, litigation support and e-discovery specialists, judges, consultants and technology providers.

In this episode recorded live from the conference floor, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with Cristin Traylor, Head of Legal AI Consulting at Relativity.

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: Cristin Traylor

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all the RelFest conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.

For the first time, Legal Speak recorded live podcast episodes from RelFest Chicago 2026 during Relativity's annual conference hosted September 29th through October 1st at the Hyatt Regency.

Centered around legal technology, legal data, e-discovery and the growing use of artificial intelligence in legal work, the gathering brought together roughly 2,000 members of the legal intelligence community, including lawyers, legal technology professionals, corporate legal teams, litigation support and e-discovery specialists, judges, consultants and technology providers.

In this episode recorded live from the conference floor, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with Martha Louks, Managing Director Discovery Technology Services, McDermott Will & Schulte

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: Martha Louks,

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all the RelFest conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.

For the first time, Legal Speak recorded live podcast episodes from RelFest Chicago 2026 during Relativity's annual conference hosted September 29th through October 1st at the Hyatt Regency.

Centered around legal technology, legal data, e-discovery and the growing use of artificial intelligence in legal work, the gathering brought together roughly 2,000 members of the legal intelligence community, including lawyers, legal technology professionals, corporate legal teams, litigation support and e-discovery specialists, judges, consultants and technology providers.

In this episode recorded live from the conference floor, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with Dorna Moini, Vice President of Product Management at Relativity

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: Dorna Moini

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all the RelFest conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.

For the first time, Legal Speak recorded live podcast episodes from RelFest Chicago 2026 during Relativity's annual conference hosted September 29th through October 1st at the Hyatt Regency.

Centered around legal technology, legal data, e-discovery and the growing use of artificial intelligence in legal work, the gathering brought together roughly 2,000 members of the legal intelligence community, including lawyers, legal technology professionals, corporate legal teams, litigation support and e-discovery specialists, judges, consultants and technology providers.

In this episode recorded live from the conference floor, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with Maribel Rivera, Vice President of Strategy and Client Engagement at ACEDS

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: Maribel Rivera

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all the RelFest conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.

For the first time, Legal Speak recorded live podcast episodes from RelFest Chicago 2026 during Relativity's annual conference hosted September 29th through October 1st at the Hyatt Regency.

Centered around legal technology, legal data, e-discovery and the growing use of artificial intelligence in legal work, the gathering brought together roughly 2,000 members of the legal intelligence community, including lawyers, legal technology professionals, corporate legal teams, litigation support and e-discovery specialists, judges, consultants and technology providers.

In this episode recorded live from the conference floor, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with Josh Kreamer, CEO of Seedless

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: Josh Kreamer

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all the RelFest conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.

For the first time, Legal Speak recorded live podcast episodes from RelFest Chicago 2026 during Relativity's annual conference hosted September 29th through October 1st at the Hyatt Regency.

Centered around legal technology, legal data, e-discovery and the growing use of artificial intelligence in legal work, the gathering brought together roughly 2,000 members of the legal intelligence community, including lawyers, legal technology professionals, corporate legal teams, litigation support and e-discovery specialists, judges, consultants and technology providers.

In this episode recorded live from the conference floor, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with Aron Ahmadia, Vice President of Applied Science at Relativity.

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: Aron Ahmadia

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all the RelFest conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.

For the first time, Legal Speak recorded live podcast episodes from RelFest Chicago 2026 during Relativity's annual conference hosted September 29th through October 1st at the Hyatt Regency.

Centered around legal technology, legal data, e-discovery and the growing use of artificial intelligence in legal work, the gathering brought together roughly 2,000 members of the legal intelligence community, including lawyers, legal technology professionals, corporate legal teams, litigation support and e-discovery specialists, judges, consultants and technology providers.

In this episode recorded live from the conference floor, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with Judge Michelle Rick from the Michigan Court of Appeals

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: Judge Michelle Rick

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all theRelFest conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.

For the first time, Legal Speak recorded live podcast episodes from RelFest Chicago 2026 during Relativity's annual conference hosted September 29th through October 1st at the Hyatt Regency.

Centered around legal technology, legal data, e-discovery and the growing use of artificial intelligence in legal work, the gathering brought together roughly 2,000 members of the legal intelligence community, including lawyers, legal technology professionals, corporate legal teams, litigation support and e-discovery specialists, judges, consultants and technology providers.

In this episode recorded live from the conference floor, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with Matthew Rasmussen, the Founder and CEO of ModeOne.

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: Matthew Rasmussen

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all the RelFest conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.

For the first time, Legal Speak recorded live podcast episodes from RelFest Chicago 2026 during Relativity's annual conference hosted September 29th through October 1st at the Hyatt Regency.

Centered around legal technology, legal data, e-discovery and the growing use of artificial intelligence in legal work, the gathering brought together roughly 2,000 members of the legal intelligence community, including lawyers, legal technology professionals, corporate legal teams, litigation support and e-discovery specialists, judges, consultants and technology providers.

In this episode recorded live from the conference floor, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with Retired U.S. Magistrate Judge William Matthewman of the Southern District of Florida.

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: Judge William Matthewman

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all the RelFest conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.

For the first time, Legal Speak recorded live podcast episodes from RelFest Chicago 2026 during Relativity's annual conference hosted September 29th through October 1st at the Hyatt Regency.

Centered around legal technology, legal data, e-discovery and the growing use of artificial intelligence in legal work, the gathering brought together roughly 2,000 members of the legal intelligence community, including lawyers, legal technology professionals, corporate legal teams, litigation support and e-discovery specialists, judges, consultants and technology providers.

In this episode recorded live from the conference floor, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with David Horrigan, Discovery Counsel and Legal Education Director at Relativity.

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: David Horrigan

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all the RelFest conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.

It's back. WIPL is back … but with a Nashville twist.

Described as one of the "most inspiring and empowering women's conferences in the legal space," Women, Influence & Power in Law (WIPL) offers an opportunity for unprecedented exchange with women in-house and outside counsel.

This premier legal event, gathering 900+ senior female legal leaders for top-notch networking with peers and mentors, has relocated to Nashville, Tennessee this year. And there was no way Legal Speak wouldn't make it's way there ... bringing you all the best interviews with speakers and moderators from the amazing panels.

In this episode, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with Tania Wilson, Director of Customer Success at the Bloomberg Industry Group.

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: Tania Wilson

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all the episodes from this year's WIPL conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.

It's back. WIPL is back … but with a Nashville twist.

Described as one of the "most inspiring and empowering women's conferences in the legal space," Women, Influence & Power in Law (WIPL) offers an opportunity for unprecedented exchange with women in-house and outside counsel.

This premier legal event, gathering 900+ senior female legal leaders for top-notch networking with peers and mentors, has relocated to Nashville, Tennessee this year. And there was no way Legal Speak wouldn't make it's way there ... bringing you all the best interviews with speakers and moderators from the amazing panels.

In this episode, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with Lauren Tetenbaum, Therapist, Author & Senior Coach at Phoebe's Life & Work Coaching Program.

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: Lauren Tetenbaum

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all the episodes from this year's WIPL conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.

It's back. WIPL is back … but with a Nashville twist.

Described as one of the "most inspiring and empowering women's conferences in the legal space," Women, Influence & Power in Law (WIPL) offers an opportunity for unprecedented exchange with women in-house and outside counsel.

This premier legal event, gathering 900+ senior female legal leaders for top-notch networking with peers and mentors, has relocated to Nashville, Tennessee this year. And there was no way Legal Speak wouldn't make it's way there ... bringing you all the best interviews with speakers and moderators from the amazing panels.

In this episode, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with Yeliz Atak, Vice President of Legal at Osborne Clarke.

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: Yeliz Atak

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all the episodes from this year's WIPL conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.

It's back. WIPL is back … but with a Nashville twist.

Described as one of the "most inspiring and empowering women's conferences in the legal space," Women, Influence & Power in Law (WIPL) offers an opportunity for unprecedented exchange with women in-house and outside counsel.

This premier legal event, gathering 900+ senior female legal leaders for top-notch networking with peers and mentors, has relocated to Nashville, Tennessee this year. And there was no way Legal Speak wouldn't make it's way there ... bringing you all the best interviews with speakers and moderators from the amazing panels.

In this episode, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with Nancy Allred, Associate General Counsel at Airbnb, Inc.

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: Nancy Allred

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all the episodes from this year's WIPL conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.

It's back. WIPL is back … but with a Nashville twist.

Described as one of the "most inspiring and empowering women's conferences in the legal space," Women, Influence & Power in Law (WIPL) offers an opportunity for unprecedented exchange with women in-house and outside counsel.

This premier legal event, gathering 900+ senior female legal leaders for top-notch networking with peers and mentors, has relocated to Nashville, Tennessee this year. And there was no way Legal Speak wouldn't make it's way there ... bringing you all the best interviews with speakers and moderators from the amazing panels.

In this episode, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with Zahreen Ghaznavi, General Counsel at Newsweek.

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: Zahreen Ghaznavi

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all the episodes from this year's WIPL conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.

It's back. WIPL is back … but with a Nashville twist.

Described as one of the "most inspiring and empowering women's conferences in the legal space," Women, Influence & Power in Law (WIPL) offers an opportunity for unprecedented exchange with women in-house and outside counsel.

This premier legal event, gathering 900+ senior female legal leaders for top-notch networking with peers and mentors, has relocated to Nashville, Tennessee this year. And there was no way Legal Speak wouldn't make it's way there ... bringing you all the best interviews with speakers and moderators from the amazing panels.

In this episode, Host Cedra Mayfield sat down with Tania Bryant, Chief Cybersecurity and Technology Regulation Counsel at Marsh McLennan.

Host: Cedra Mayfield

Guest: Tania Bryant

Producer: Charles Garnar

Be sure to look for all the episodes from this year's WIPL conference on Law.com, Apple and Spotify.