Podcast
Mastering Sales and Negotiations
Mastering Sales and Negotiations is a podcast designed for ambitious business professionals where we explore world-renowned methodologies to uncover valuable lessons for sales professionals and learn how you can achieve sustainable behaviour change within your team.
- Episodes
- 31
- Releases
- Every two weeks
- Typical length
- 17 min
- On air since
- 2024
- Latest episode
- 2 weeks ago
Episodes
31 episodes, newest first
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10 min
Learning more from lost deals
Season 3, Episode 3
Show notes
Great sales teams still lose opportunities they expected to win, but those losses can offer some of the most valuable lessons.
In this Quick Win episode, we revisit the key takeaways from our conversation with Anna Betts, Head of Business Development & Sales Enablement at JLL.
We'll explore why organisations should examine lost deals as closely as successful ones, how earlier client engagement can improve the chances of success and why sales performance depends on more than technology or CRM systems.
If you want to build a stronger sales culture, this episode offers practical ideas for learning from setbacks and improving future opportunities.
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50 min
Why great sales teams lose deals they should have won
Season 3, Episode 3
Show notes
Welcome back to the Mastering Sales & Negotiations podcast.
Anna Betts joins us this week to share what she has built over 22 years in professional services, including more than 15 years at PwC and her current role as Head of Business Development & Sales Enablement at Jones Lang LaSalle (JLL). Drawing on experience across marketing, pursuits and proposals, business development and account management, she explains what stronger sales teams do differently.
A strong team, a well-prepared pitch and an established client relationship do not always lead to a win. Anna examines what can sit behind an unexpected loss and how involving the right expertise can create a more consistent client experience throughout the sales cycle.
We also consider what separates average sales organisations from exceptional ones, from coaching senior sellers and measuring productivity rather than activity to identifying whitespace opportunities and creating a culture of accountability.
As technology and AI continue to reshape professional services, Anna explains why curiosity, agility and a willingness to step outside your comfort zone remain essential for sales professionals and leaders.
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9 min
Quick win – Making every exhibition conversation count
Season 3, Episode 2
Show notes
Exhibitions create a rare opportunity to engage prospective customers face-to-face, but many teams fail to make the most of those interactions.
In this Quick Win episode, hosts Rachel Massey and Robin Hoyle revisit some of the key lessons from their conversation with Tracy Shah, exploring what sales teams can do to improve their performance before, during and after an event.
Together, they discuss why preparation matters, how asking the right questions can lead to better conversations, and the role follow-up plays in turning brief interactions into genuine sales opportunities. They also share practical advice on avoiding common stand behaviours that can undermine results.
If you're preparing for an upcoming exhibition or looking to improve the return from events, this episode offers simple actions that can help you generate more value from every conversation.
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45 min
Turning exhibitions into sales opportunities
Season 3, Episode 2
Show notes
Welcome back to the Mastering Sales & Negotiations podcast.
This week, we're joined by Tracy Shah, Joint Managing Director at Venture Marketing Group. Having spent decades working across exhibitions, conferences and events, Tracy has seen first-hand what separates organisations that generate meaningful opportunities from those that simply show up.
In our conversation, we explore why exhibitions remain such a powerful sales channel, despite the growth of digital marketing and AI. Tracy shares common mistakes businesses make before, during and after an event, from poor preparation and passive stand behaviour to weak follow-ups that leave valuable opportunities untapped.
We discuss how the best exhibitors approach events strategically, why effective stand conversations start with understanding a customer's challenges rather than delivering a sales pitch, and how meaningful interactions can create opportunities long after the exhibition doors have closed.
Whether you're exhibiting at a trade show, conference or industry event, this episode offers practical insights into creating better conversations, stronger opportunities and greater return from your investment in face-to-face selling.
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10 min
Stop collecting data. Start using it.
Show notes
Sales teams are surrounded by data, yet many still struggle to make confident decisions.
In this Quick Win episode, Rachel Massey and Robin Hoyle unpack some of the most practical insights from our conversation with Simon Hefti, exploring why so much sales data fails to drive action and what leaders can do differently.
Together, they discuss how to distinguish meaningful customer signals from background noise, why outdated CRM habits undermine trust in data, and how AI can help identify patterns that support better decision-making. They also explore the vital role coaching plays in turning insights into action, helping sales professionals focus on the behaviours and conversations that really matter.
If your team is collecting more data than ever but seeing little return from it, this episode offers practical advice on where to focus first and how to start turning information into commercial advantage.
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48 min
Making sense of sales data
Show notes
Welcome back to the Mastering Sales & Negotiations podcast - and welcome to the first episode of series 3.
This week, we're joined by Dr Simon Hefti, co-founder and chairman of D ONE, a leading Swiss data and AI consultancy. With a background in physics and decades of experience helping organisations make better use of their data, Simon brings a unique perspective on one of sales' biggest challenges: turning information into action.
In our conversation, we explore why so many organisations are collecting more customer and sales data than ever before, yet still struggle to generate meaningful insights. Simon explains why data has become an administrative burden for many sales teams, how valuable customer signals become trapped across disconnected systems, and what separates organisations that use data to create value from those that simply accumulate it.
We also discuss the rise of AI in sales, where the technology can genuinely help sales professionals make better decisions, and why even the most advanced tools still depend on trustworthy, connected data. Along the way, Simon shares practical advice for sales leaders looking to move from dashboards and reports to real commercial impact.
Whether you're looking to improve forecasting, identify opportunities earlier, or simply make better use of the information your business already has, this episode is packed with practical insights.
It’s a useful listen for anyone looking to make data work harder for their sales team.
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11 min
Founder-led selling works… until it doesn’t.
Show notes
Welcome back to the Mastering Sales and Negotiations podcast.
This week on the podcast, we were joined by Claus Klein‑Ipsen, Chairman of the Board at Peak Systems and a long‑time advisor to founder‑led start‑ups and VC‑backed scale‑ups. In our conversation, we explored what really breaks as organisations move from founder‑led selling to repeatable, scalable sales.
We're joined by Will Ockenden to unpack the key takeaways from that discussion — including how founder passion can quietly undermine customer discovery, why VC pressure often leads to process without progress, and how treating sales as a craft rather than a personality trait creates sustainable performance.
And why Will? A founder himself, he’s experienced this first hand and now also works closely with sales leaders and organisations navigating growth, helping teams turn start-up passion into methodology into everyday commercial behaviour.
In short, he’s right at the sharp end of this challenge. Let’s dive in.
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32 min
Start-ups, Scale-ups and SPIN
Show notes
Start-ups, Scale-ups and SPIN In this episode of Mastering Sales and Negotiations, we’re joined by Claus Klein‑Ipsen, Chairman of the Board at Peak Systems, board member, and long-time advisor to founder‑led start-ups and VC‑backed scale-ups. Claus lifts the lid on what really happens as companies move from “I can sell” to “we can sell” and why both start-ups and scale-ups keep making the same discovery mistakes. He explains how founder passion can quietly turn into a monologue, how VC pressure can create beautiful dashboards but weak conversations, and why treating sales as a craft (not a personality trait) changes everything.
You’ll hear how SPIN Selling gives teams a shared commercial language that works at every stage of growth; from protecting customer discovery in early-stage chaos to creating consistent, coachable deal reviews in complex scale-ups. Whether you’re building something new, scaling fast, or trying to lift commercial capability across sales, CS and leadership, this conversation is packed with practical stories, tough lessons, and real-world ideas you can apply immediately.
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7 min
Turning AI from a Buzzword into a Sales Advantage
Show notes
This week on the Mastering Sales and Negotiations podcast, we sat down with Casper Guldager, who shared some refreshingly honest insights about why AI so often stalls inside commercial teams, and what leaders can do to change that.
In this Quick Win episode, Rachel Massey is joined by Robin Hoyle to unpack the biggest takeaways from that conversation, including:
• Why leaders need to go first and use AI themselves
• How AI can take on the admin, prep and process-heavy work
• Why the future of sales means doing more of what you love and less of what you don’t -
45 min
Building a Practical AI-First Sales Organisation
Show notes
In this episode of Mastering Sales and Negotiations, we sit down with Casper Guldager, AI consultant and co‑founder of Adaptig, whose career spans a decade of helping organisations like LEGO and KPMG integrate AI into commercial performance.
Casper argues that while AI technology is accelerating rapidly, the real barrier to adoption isn’t tools — it’s leadership. He explains why AI transformation must start at the top, how leaders can model the right behaviour, and what an effective “executive AI blueprint” actually looks like.
We explore the practical side too: where AI genuinely improves sales effectiveness, how high‑performing teams use AI for deep account research, and what separates the reps who thrive with AI from those who give up too early.
Casper also shares why commercial mindset is becoming one of the most important human skills in an AI-enabled world — and what the next 3–5 years will mean for the role of the salesperson.
Packed with practical examples, honest reflections, and lessons from both successful ventures and failed experiments, this episode gives leaders a grounded, actionable view of what it really takes to build an AI‑first sales organisation.
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11 min
Curiosity that converts: The art of better questioning
Season 2
Show notes
Welcome back to the Mastering Sales and Negotiations podcast. This week, we were joined by Martin Couzins, Founder and CEO of Insights Media, for a conversation all about intentional customer listening and how deep questioning, real thinking space, and genuine curiosity can transform commercial relationships. Today I’m joined by Robin Hoyle to unpack the big takeaways from that discussion. And if you’re new to the show, Robin is Huthwaite’s Head of Learning Innovation, a globally recognised L&D leader, a conference regular, and an expert in turning behaviour change into real-world commercial outcomes. In short - he knows his stuff. Together, we’ll break down the practical actions you can take to improve the quality of your questioning, elevate your listening, and turn customer conversations into insights that drive renewal, trust and long-term value. Let’s dive in.
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46 min
Tuned In: How customer listening creates actionable insights
Show notes
In this episode of Mastering Sales & Negotiations, we explore how intentional customer listening transforms everyday interactions into strategic growth opportunities. Listening isn’t just about hearing feedback—it’s about unlocking the insights that drive renewals, referrals, and long-term loyalty.
We’ll dive into how real customer success stories begin with understanding what customers truly value. These insights also fuel innovation—helping teams identify unmet needs, refine offerings, develop messaging that resonates deeply and differentiates in competitive markets.
Join us as we unpack practical strategies and real-world examples that show how listening can be your most powerful sales and marketing tool.
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9 min
Why internal buy-in makes or breaks deals
Show notes
Welcome back to the Mastering Sales and Negotiations podcast. I’m your host, Rachel Massey. This week on the podcast, we were joined by Emma Pacey, Trading Director at one of the UK’s largest supermarket chains. In our conversation, Emma lifted the lid on what we called the double negotiation - the balance between securing great deals with suppliers and negotiating just as effectively inside the organisation to align teams, priorities, and strategy. Today, I’m joined by Robin Hoyle to unpack the key takeaways from that discussion — from the art of internal persuasion to the traits that separate good suppliers from truly great partners. And why Robin? Well, he’s a leading figure in the learning and development space, a regular speaker at global conferences, the author of two books on learning culture, and a former Sales Director who’s been in the hot seat of high-stakes negotiation himself. In short, he knows his stuff. Let’s dive in.
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49 min
The Double Negotiation: The Art of the Internal and External Deal
Show notes
In this episode, we sit down with Emma Pacey, Trading Director from one of the UK's largest supermarket chains to uncover the often-overlooked reality of their role: negotiation isn't just about driving hard bargains with suppliers—it's about winning hearts and minds internally, too.
Our guest reveals why success at the trading desk requires a delicate balance of external negotiation prowess with suppliers and the equally critical skill of building consensus across internal teams—from category managers and marketing to finance and operations. Discover how the best Trading Directors navigate competing priorities, secure stakeholder buy-in, and align diverse departments behind a unified commercial strategy.
We also explore what separates good suppliers from great ones when it comes to the negotiating table. Our guest shares real examples of how suppliers who understand the challenges supermarkets face can transform potentially difficult negotiations into collaborative partnerships—and why preparation and fluency in "buyer speak" can be the difference between a rejected proposal and a long-term contract.
Whether you're in retail buying, supplier management, or interested in the tough commercial mechanics of the supermarket industry, this conversation offers rare insights into the negotiations of those who decide what lands on Britain's shelve - and at what price.
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6 min
AI can do the research, but it can’t build the relationship
Show notes
Welcome back to the Mastering Sales and Negotiations podcast. I’m your host, Rachel Massey. This week on the podcast we had the pleasure of being joined by entrepreneur and sales leader Mike Pritchett. In our chat we discussed where AI ends, and where humans must begin in order to balance automation and authenticity in the sales world. Today I am joined by Robin Hoyle, to discuss the key takeaways from our conversation with Mike. And what makes Robin such an expert you might ask – well, he is very well known in the L&D industry, addresses leaders all over the world at conferences and summits, is the author of two books around learning culture and has walked in Sales Director shoes himself. Suffice to say, he knows his stuff.
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50 min
Sales enablement reimagined — Where AI ends and humans begin
Season 2, Episode 1
Show notes
The Mastering Sales and Negotiations podcast returns with a brand-new series and we’re kicking it off with our first guest: entrepreneur, founder, and sales leader Mike Pritchett.
🎙️ Episode 1: Sales enablement reimagined — Where AI ends and humans begin
AI is transforming prospecting, outreach and efficiency…
But can it ever replace trust, humour, empathy and real connection?In this episode, Mike breaks down:
✨ The moments where AI supercharges sales
✨ The moments where only humans can win the deal
✨ Why emotional intelligence is becoming the ultimate sales differentiator
✨ How to “add value, not noise” in an AI-saturated worldOne you don’t want to miss!
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7 min
How to be the conductor of your own corporate orchestra
Show notes
On this week’s episode of the Mastering Sales and Negotiations podcast, we explore the value of trust, how to be the conductor of your own corporate orchestra, and real-world challenges and lessons from the sales front line.
Join Robin Hoyle and Rachel Masseyas they reflect on the main takeaways of their conversation with Rebecca Bromwich, Global Account Director at VodafoneThree.
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52 min
Why you need to embrace two-faced strategies in the new era of buying
Show notes
In the latest episode of the Mastering Sales and Negotiations podcast, Robin Hoyle and Rachel Massey are joined by Rebecca Bromwich, Global Account Director at VodafoneThree.
They explored why embracing “two-faced” strategies is essential in today’s complex buying landscape. A good salesperson must adapt fluidly – not to deceive, but to balance customer-facing finesse with internal strategic alignment.
Together, they dive into the evolving world of modern sales, unpacking universal truths and proven approaches that resonate across industries, teams, and roles.
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10 min
Working Collaboratively to Solve Problems
Show notes
On this week’s episode of the Mastering Sales and Negotiations podcast, we explore the true value of working collaboratively to solve problems, to build the customers’ vision, through honesty and preparedness.
Join Robin Hoyle and Rachel Massey as they reflect on the main takeaways of their conversation with Myles Davidson Head of Sales at Zühlke Group, including the benefit of putting processes and strategies in place and working in an environment which is less pressured and having the time to build working relationships.
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46 min
Beyond Sales: Creating Value Across Every Customer Touchpoint
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In the latest episode of the Mastering Sales and Negotiations podcast, Robin Hoyle and Rachel Massey are joined by Myles Davidson Head of Sales at Zühlke Group.
They discussed how sales skills improvement can help demystify sales for their specialised consultants and technical experts, allowing them to align their solutions precisely with customer challenges, building deeper trust through value-focused dialogue.
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