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NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

Business, Education, How To, Investing

NerdWallet’s trusted finance journalists answer real-world money questions to help you make smarter financial decisions with confidence.

Each episode dives deep into topics like budgeting, saving, investing, home buying, and credit cards, cutting through misinformation to bring you clear, actionable advice backed by thorough research.

By the end of every episode, you’ll have the latest financial insights and the tools you’ll need to manage your money wisely, build wealth, and plan for life’s milestones. And if you have questions for the Nerds, you can leave them a voicemail at 901-730-6373.

Join hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, Elizabeth Ayoola, and other expert Nerds as they answer your biggest money questions and share strategies to help you build wealth and reach your financial goals, including:

– Investing: Advanced investment strategies, integrating ETFs and mutual funds into a diversified portfolio, tax-efficient retirement planning, understanding Roth IRA conversions, and navigating robo-advisors.

– Credit Cards: Top credit cards for travel rewards and luxury perks, balance transfer strategies, maximizing credit card points, and optimizing credit card usage to boost your credit score.

– Personal Finance: Advanced budgeting tips, building generational wealth, creating effective savings plans, managing high-income expenses, and developing a strong money growth mindset.

– Home: Smart strategies for homebuying in competitive markets, leveraging home equity loans and HELOCs, refinancing for long-term savings, first-time homebuying tips, and budgeting for major home improvements.

If you’re searching for the best personal finance podcasts or want practical knowledge to make smarter money decisions, then follow NerdWallet’s Smart Money Podcast.

You’ll love NerdWallet’s Smart Money Podcast if you like podcasts like: Planet Money, The Personal Finance Podcast, DIY Money, Afford Anything, How to Money, The Ramsey Show, Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin, NPR’s Life Kit: Money, Popcorn Finance, Money Girl,Money Guy Show, Everyone’s Talkin’ Money, So Money with Farnoosh Tarabi, The Money with Katie Show, All the Hacks with Chris Hutchins, The Stacking Benjamins Show, MoneyWatch with Jill Schlesinger, or Your Money, Your Wealth.

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666
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Typical length
40 min
On air since
2017
Latest episode
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Episodes

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  1. HMO, PPO or High-Deductible Plan? Navigate Open Enrollment as Health Care Costs Rise

    Show notes

    Learn how to compare health insurance plans, HSAs and FSAs before open enrollment deadlines arrive.

    How do you pick the right health plan when costs keep climbing? Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola kick off a two-part open enrollment series with NerdWallet lead writer Kate Ashford, starting with the key enrollment dates for marketplace, Medicare, federal and employer-sponsored coverage. They discuss why employer health benefit costs are expected to jump next year, how premiums and deductibles work like a seesaw, the tradeoffs between HMOs, PPOs and high-deductible health plans, and why being a middle-of-the-road health care user could make the choice especially tricky. You’ll also hear how to weigh your out-of-pocket maximum, whether you have enough cash on hand to cover a high deductible, and how last year’s medical bills could help you estimate next year’s.

    How can you get the most out of a health savings account or flexible spending account? Sean, Elizabeth and Kate explain the triple tax advantage of HSAs and why some planners treat them like another retirement account, how use-it-or-lose-it rules and rollover limits work for FSAs, and what a dependent care FSA could cover. They also dig into what’s changing for Affordable Care Act plans in 2027, including higher proposed premiums, insurers entering and leaving markets, new subsidy eligibility rules for some immigrants and state-level changes, plus why it could be worth trying to negotiate a medical bill.

    Compare plans, premiums and out-of-pocket costs with NerdWallet’s guide:

    How to Choose Health Insurance: Your Step-by-Step Guide: https://www.nerdwallet.com/insurance/health/learn/choose-health-insurance

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    32 min
  2. Should You Manage Your Own Mortgage Escrow? Plus, Decoding 2026 Election Slogans

    Show notes

    Learn whether managing your own mortgage escrow pays off and what popular election slogans could mean for your money.

    Can you manage your own escrow account instead of letting your mortgage servicer pay your property taxes and homeowners insurance? Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola welcome housing Nerd Kate Wood to weigh the pros and cons of do-it-yourself escrow. They discuss how escrow fits into your monthly mortgage payment, when a lender might grant an escrow waiver, and why FHA loans and private mortgage insurance can take the choice off the table. They also run the numbers on how much interest you could earn by holding the money yourself, what happens when an escrow account comes up short, and why some mortgage hacks on social media don’t tell the full story.

    What do candidates actually mean when they say “tax the rich,” “affordability” or “Medicare for All”? Senior news writer Anna Helhoski joins Sean and Elizabeth to decode the campaign slogans on mailers, ads and bumper stickers ahead of Election Day. They discuss how one slogan can cover very different taxes, how candidates are framing the cost of groceries, utilities and healthcare, and why “affordable housing” means something different from race to race.

    Watch the Portlandia escrow scene:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZmO_7JBeao

    Run your own numbers with NerdWallet’s Compound Interest Calculator:https://www.nerdwallet.com/banking/calculators/compound-interest-calculator

    See the escrow shortage findings in the 2026 NerdWallet Home Buyer Report:https://www.nerdwallet.com/mortgages/studies/home-buyer-report

    Find ways to save with 8 Ways to Lower Homeowners Insurance Rates:https://www.nerdwallet.com/insurance/homeowners/learn/save-on-homeowners-insurance

    Read Anna’s breakdowns of this year’s campaign slogans:

    What Does ‘Tax the Rich’ Actually Mean?:https://www.nerdwallet.com/finance/news/tax-the-rich

    On Affordability: Can a Politician Make Your Groceries Cheaper?:https://www.nerdwallet.com/finance/news/affordability

    ‘Medicare for All’ to ‘Take on Big Pharma’: What’s Behind Healthcare Slogans:https://www.nerdwallet.com/finance/news/medicare-for-all

    What Does ‘Affordable Housing’ Mean?:https://www.nerdwallet.com/finance/news/affordable-housing

    Find out what’s on your ballot with the U.S. Election Assistance Commission (https://www.eac.gov/), Can I Vote (https://www.nass.org/can-I-vote) and VOTE411 from the League of Women Voters (https://www.vote411.org/).

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    Smart Money’s YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@nerdwalletsmartmoney

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    40 min
  3. What Happens to Your Budget After Divorce? How to Rebuild on a Single Income

    Show notes

    Learn how to pursue early retirement, grow savings, and weigh home buying after a major life change.

    How do you rebuild your budget after going from two incomes to one? Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola review the budget of a 32-year-old Los Angeles nonprofit supervisor who is two years past a divorce, newly free of credit card debt and car payments, and unsure where her extra cash could go next. They discuss how a rent increase pushed her to downsize, why budgeting on vibes can swing between YOLO mode and stress, what her 50/30/20 breakdown reveals, and how to size an emergency fund when you’re a single-income household and your job depends on federal funding.

    She also wonders about maybe retiring at 55. Sean and Elizabeth plug her numbers into NerdWallet’s retirement calculator live to see how big the gap could be and how much a higher contribution rate might close it. They also cover common retirement savings benchmarks, including the 80% rule, why most retirement accounts limit penalty-free withdrawals until age 59, how a 457(b) plan and a taxable brokerage account could offer more flexibility, where a pension fits into the picture, and how trimming spending on wants like workday lunches could free up money for future goals.

    Run your own numbers with the NerdWallet tools used in this episode:

    Retirement Calculator: https://www.nerdwallet.com/investing/calculators/retirement-calculator

    50/30/20 Budget Calculator: https://www.nerdwallet.com/finance/learn/nerdwallet-budget-calculator

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    33 min
  4. How to Budget Money Your Way and Save Smarter for Big Milestones

    Show notes

    Learn how to pick a budget that fits your life, where to save for a big goal and how identity theft has changed.

    Does a budget work without sorting your spending into needs and wants? And where could you keep money you’re saving for a big expense that’s five years away? Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola answer two listener questions. The first comes from a listener who splits her budget into monthly and one-time expenses instead of using the 50/30/20 rule. The second comes from a parent saving $13,000 for her daughter’s quinceañera whose CD is about to mature.

    Then, how has the identity theft playbook changed over 40 years, and what new risks could AI agents bring to your finances? Senior news writer Anna Helhoski talks with Eva Velasquez, CEO of the Identity Theft Resource Center. They discuss why there’s almost no barrier left to committing fraud, and why victims often feel ashamed even when they did nothing wrong. They also cover who pays when an AI agent makes a costly mistake for you, how freezing your credit has gotten easier, and why help for victims after the fact still falls short.

    Run the numbers on your own savings goal with NerdWallet’s savings calculator:https://www.nerdwallet.com/banking/calculators/savings-calculator

    Compare rates on accounts for short-term goals:Best High-Yield Savings Accounts of October 2026: Up to 5%:https://www.nerdwallet.com/banking/best/high-yield-online-savings-accountsBest CD Rates of October 2026: Up to 5.00%:https://www.nerdwallet.com/banking/best/cd-rates5 Best Money Market Accounts for October 2026: Up to 4.05%:https://www.nerdwallet.com/banking/best/money-market-accounts

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    Smart Money’s YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@nerdwalletsmartmoney

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    49 min
  5. Afraid to Ask for a Raise? Negotiate Your Salary With 5 Simple Words

    Show notes

    Learn how to get past the fear of negotiating for higher pay, even when your employer might say no.

    Why does negotiating feel so scary, and how do you get past that fear? Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola talk with Kwame Christian, a negotiation expert, CEO of the American Negotiation Institute and host of the “Big Swings Only” podcast. They discuss how the fear of rejection, awkwardness and damaged relationships can keep you from asking for what you want, the everyday situations where you could negotiate more than you expect, and Kwame’s three-step framework for tough conversations. You’ll also hear what an “internal negotiation” with yourself looks like, how shifting from a fear of failure to a fear of regret could change your approach, and why staying quiet can turn into resentment.

    And what do you do when the job offer seems final or your company says it doesn’t negotiate pay? Kwame walks Sean and Elizabeth through why it can help to think about total compensation instead of salary alone, the five-word question that could reveal room to move in an offer, how outside offers may give you leverage with your current employer, and how to respond to a “no negotiation” policy without attacking it. They also get into anchoring, why repeating the other side’s number can work against you, when raising your voice could backfire, and how to turn everyday negotiations into deliberate practice.

    Learn more about Kwame Christian’s work, his framework for negotiating anything and the app he recommends for tracking your career wins:

    ANI: Negotiate Anything | Master Negotiation Today: https://kwamechristian.com/

    How to Get What You Want Every Time: 3 Steps to Negotiate Anything With Anyone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV8xSekK-KE

    Big Swings Only: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/big-swings-only/id1101679010

    PepTalkHer: https://www.peptalkher.com/

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    41 min
  6. How to Plan a Sabbatical (and Pay for It), Plus the Hidden Costs of Cash Advance Apps

    Show notes

    Learn how to plan and pay for a sabbatical, plus why cash advance apps may cost more than you think.

    How do you plan and pay for a sabbatical, even if your employer doesn't offer a paid one? Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola are joined by Smart Money producer Tess Vigeland to answer a listener's question about setting up for extended time off work. They talk about how rare paid sabbaticals are, which companies offer them, and how to set goals for your time away. Tess shares the story of her three-year sabbatical in Asia, and the hosts compare the pros and cons of shorter breaks. They also get into building a sabbatical budget and sinking fund, why debt and emergency savings matter even more when your paycheck pauses, what happens to your health insurance, and what it can feel like to return to work. Plus, ways to get a real break when a sabbatical isn't in reach.

    Why might cash advance apps cost more than their marketing would lead you to believe? Senior news writer Anna Helhoski talks with Candice Wang, senior researcher at the Center for Responsible Lending, about new research on payday advance apps. They discuss how these apps differ from traditional payday lenders (and how they don’t), why users may not recognize them as high-cost loans, how an average 232% APR and frequent repeat borrowing can add up, why some state payday lending laws don't apply, and what you could consider before using one.

    Explore the Center for Responsible Lending's research on payday loan apps, plus NerdWallet's guides to sinking funds and COBRA coverage:

    The Cost of Payday Loan Apps in Your State: https://www.responsiblelending.org/research-publication/cost-payday-loan-apps-your-state

    Sinking Funds: The Secret to Stress-Free Expenses: https://www.nerdwallet.com/finance/learn/nerdwallet-sinking-fund-savings

    COBRA Health Insurance Eligibility and Alternatives: https://www.nerdwallet.com/insurance/health/learn/cobra-health-insurance

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    51 min
  7. Splitting the Bill With Friends? Navigate Venmo Requests, Unpaid Loans and Money Regrets

    Show notes

    Learn how to handle money tension with friends and partners, from splitting costs to getting a loan paid back.

    Is it fair for a friend to split every grocery bill with you when they earn far more than you do? Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola dig into some of Reddit’s messiest money conversations, with posts read by NerdWallet senior banking writer Spencer Tierney, credit expert Amanda Barroso and content strategist Jackie Tucker. You’ll hear why surprise payment app requests can sting, how rarely money values come up between friends, whether splitting every cost makes a friendship feel transactional, and what to consider when a friend borrows money twice and then asks whether they really need to pay it all back.

    Then, how much money does it take to stop worrying about money? Sean and Elizabeth discuss why there may never be a magic number, how medical bills and rising health care costs feed financial anxiety, and what a viral article about Gen Z women paying for, and parenting, their boyfriends reveals about the difference between a wage gap and an effort gap in relationships. They also open up about the financial decisions they regret (or refuse to), from overstaying in a low-wage job market abroad to not setting money aside for taxes, and react to Redditors’ biggest regrets, including selling Microsoft stock in 1992 and skipping a prenup.

    Read The Cut article discussed in this episode here:

    https://www.thecut.com/article/young-women-earning-more-money-boyfriends.html

    Follow the Reddit conversations discussed in this episode below:

    Finance Stuff With A Friend

    At what income or net worth did you stop worrying about money?

    How To Ask Somebody To Pay You Back

    What is a financial decision you will regret for the rest of your life?

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    37 min
  8. Rebuild Your Credit And Your Savings, Plus Why 7 in 10 Americans Feel Squeezed

    Show notes

    Learn how to rebuild credit while saving in sinking funds, and why 7 in 10 Americans struggle to afford the basics.

    How can you rebuild your credit and save for big goals at the same time? Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP, and Elizabeth Ayoola are joined by NerdWallet senior credit expert Amanda Barroso to answer a listener's question about moving from repairing bad credit to building excellent credit. They discuss which habits have the biggest effect on your score and how to spot errors on your credit report. They also cover when a secured credit card could make sense, how rent reporting and credit limit increases might help, and what credit score you typically need for a travel rewards card. Finally, they talk about how to set up sinking funds so the pursuit of credit card rewards doesn't turn into overspending.

    Then, why are so many middle-class families struggling to afford the basics? Senior news writer Anna Helhoski talks with Lelaine Bigelow, executive director of the Georgetown Center on Poverty and Inequality, about their new Family Economic Well-Being Index. The index finds that 70% of Americans struggle to afford at least one basic need. They discuss why renters face heavier housing burdens than homeowners and why child care strains families even at higher incomes. They also get into why health care is the most widespread burden and how stacked costs can leave a family one surprise bill away from a crisis.

    Learn the strategies that can help you build your credit score faster:https://www.nerdwallet.com/finance/learn/raise-credit-score-fast

    Find out how a secured card could help you rebuild credit:https://www.nerdwallet.com/credit-cards/learn/build-credit-with-secured-credit-card

    See how rent-reporting services could help renters get credit for on-time payments:https://www.nerdwallet.com/finance/learn/rent-reporting-services

    Learn how sinking funds can help you pay cash for big expenses:https://www.nerdwallet.com/finance/learn/nerdwallet-sinking-fund-savings

    Check your credit reports for free every week:https://www.annualcreditreport.com

    Explore the Family Economic Well-Being Index findings from the Georgetown Center on Poverty and Inequality:https://www.georgetownpoverty.org/issues/new-family-index/

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    Smart Money’s YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@nerdwalletsmartmoney

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    44 min
  9. Build Generational Wealth From Scratch: Four Pillars and the Family Pressure That Comes With It

    Show notes

    Learn how to build generational wealth and navigate the complex financial issues of being the first in your family to get ahead financially.

    Generational wealth expert India Elliott, a financial advisor at Wells Fargo Advisors, joins hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola to answer listener questions about building — and protecting — wealth that lasts. One listener, a first-gen college grad who relocated out of a small Ohio town, wants to understand how to build “real wealth” for himself and his family; India walks through her four pillars (earn, manage, protect, and grow) and explains how tools like trusts, life insurance, and estate plans could pass assets to the next generation with fewer taxes and fewer family disputes. A second listener has her own finances in order but struggles with watching loved ones make financial choices that worry her, navigating the concept of the “Black tax,” and figuring out when — and how — to say no to financial requests without guilt or compromising her own path to generational wealth.

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    34 min
  10. Build a Forever Paycheck with Jean Chatzky of HerMoney

    Show notes

    Learn how to turn your retirement savings into a steady retirement paycheck and how grocery stores may use your data to set prices.

    How do you turn decades of retirement savings into income you can count on for the rest of your life? Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola talk with Jean Chatzky, host of the HerMoney podcast and author of “The Forever Paycheck: The New Retirement Strategy to Spend More, Worry Less, and Never Run Out of Money,” about why spending down your savings in retirement can be so hard, both in the math and in your head. They discuss where the 4% rule could fall short, the difference between buying a paycheck with an annuity and building one with investments, and when to start planning. They also answer listener questions about whether a pension means you can ease off on 403(b) contributions, what two years out of the workforce could cost a stay-at-home parent, and whether to consolidate old retirement accounts.

    Then, is your grocery store charging you more than the shopper next to you for the same items? Senior news writer Anna Helhoski talks with fellow Nerd Amanda Barroso about surveillance pricing, where retailers use data from loyalty programs, apps and even how fast you type to set prices based on what they think you’re willing to pay. They discuss how it differs from dynamic pricing, the signs it could be happening to you, what states and the FTC are doing about it, and how adding a little friction to your shopping could help.

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    For more information on the topics discussed in this episode, check out these resources:

    Retirement Calculator: https://www.nerdwallet.com/investing/calculators/retirement-calculator

    HerMoney with Jean Chatzky:

    https://www.youtube.com/hermoney

    The Forever Paycheck by Jean Chatzky: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/805286/the-forever-paycheck-by-jean-chatzky/

    my Social Security: https://www.ssa.gov/myaccount/

    Why the Box of Cereal in My Cart Might Cost Less Than Yours: https://www.nerdwallet.com/finance/news/surveillance-pricing

    Federal Trade Commission’s Proposed Enforcement Policy Statement Regarding Personalized Pricing: https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ftc_gov/pdf/p034101-ftc-enforcement-policy-statement-re-personalized-pricing-proposed-for-public-comment.pdf

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    Smart Money’s YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@nerdwalletsmartmoney

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    51 min
  11. Renting vs. Buying a Home: Can HOA Fees Be Worth the Money?

    Show notes

    Learn how condo and HOA fees change the math on renting vs. home ownership, and how to resist a pricey tech upgrade.

    Is buying a home with a hefty condo or HOA fee worth the money compared with renting? Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola talk with Ryan Sterling, CEO of NerdWallet Wealth Partners, about a listener trying to factor condo fees into the rent vs. buy decision. You’ll hear why the idea that renting is “throwing money away” overlooks the costs homeowners might not get back, how long it could take for buying to break even at different mortgage rates, and why the payoff of owning a home can be as much about emotions as finances.

    Then, how do you talk yourself out of a big purchase you don’t really need? Sean and Elizabeth weigh the pull of Apple’s new $2,000 folding phone and a high-end smartwatch, why monthly installment plans and phone leasing can make pricey tech feel cheaper than it is, and how to tell whether a splurge lines up with your values.

    Your financial decisions deserve a real partner. Learn more about NerdWallet Wealth Partners here: https://nerdwalletwealthpartners.com/

    Thinking of buying a property? Know the real cost first with NerdWallet’s Rent vs. Buy Calculator here: https://www.nerdwallet.com/mortgages/calculators/rent-vs-buy-calculator

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    39 min
  12. Get Out of a Timeshare and Find Down Payment Help to Buy a Home

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    Learn how to escape a timeshare contract, plus what kind of help exists if you want to buy a home.

    How do you get out of a timeshare you no longer want? Elizabeth Ayoola talks with travel Nerd Craig Joseph about a listener whose parents are paying yearly fees on an Orlando property they can barely use anymore. You'll hear why these timeshare contracts are so hard to unwind, what maintenance fees tend to run, and why there's often no cap on how fast they climb.

    Then, can you really get free money to buy a house? Sean Pyles, CFP®, Elizabeth Ayoola and senior news writer Anna Helhoski are joined by mortgage Nerds Abby Badach Doyle and Kate Wood to discuss how down payment and closing cost assistance works, and how to tell a good deal from an expensive one. They get into where the thousands of programs come from, how a grant differs from a forgivable loan or a second mortgage, and one place homebuying help is starting to appear that you might not expect.

    Want to get rid of your timeshare? Read this before you hire someone to help: https://consumer.ftc.gov/consumer-alerts/2022/11/want-get-rid-your-timeshare-read-you-hire-someone-help

    Links mentioned in this episode:

    How Timeshare Presentations Earn Me Cheap Travel: https://www.nerdwallet.com/travel/learn/how-timeshare-presentations-earn-me-cheap-travel

    Are Timeshares Worth It? Possibly, if You Buy Smart: https://www.nerdwallet.com/travel/learn/are-timeshares-worth-it

    Want to get rid of your timeshare? Read this before you hire someone to help: https://consumer.ftc.gov/consumer-alerts/2022/11/want-get-rid-your-timeshare-read-you-hire-someone-help

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    37 min
  13. Real Estate Syndication 101: What to Know Before You Invest

    Show notes

    Learn what to weigh before investing in real estate syndications, including costs, risks and REIT alternatives.

    Should you diversify into real estate, and is real estate syndication the right way to do it? Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola talk with NerdWallet investing writer Sam Taube about what real estate syndication actually involves, the different ways to get in — from online crowdfunding platforms to launching your own deal — and the questions worth asking a sponsor before committing any money. They cover how much capital it typically takes, how long that money could be tied up, and why accredited-investor rules can lock out everyday investors.

    Sean and Elizabeth also weigh the potential tax benefits against the risks, including past scandals at some online platforms, and talk through simpler alternatives like real estate investment trust (REIT) ETFs for anyone who decides a private syndication is more risk and paperwork than it's worth. They wrap up with a candid conversation about financial anxiety on social media and why it's still worth saving even when money feels tight.

    Check out NerdWallet's roundup of real estate crowdfunding platforms: https://www.nerdwallet.com/investing/best/real-estate-crowdfunding-platforms

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    30 min
  14. Drained Retirement, Maxed Credit Cards. How Scam Victims Start Rebuilding

    Show notes

    When a parent sends their retirement savings to someone they met online, learn how to help them recover – without letting it happen again.

    What do you do when a parent has spent most of their retirement savings on a romantic partner they’ve never met? Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola help from a listener whose father, in his 70s, drained his retirement accounts and ran up massive credit card debt paying someone he met on OnlyFans. Sean shares what happened when his own father lost $150,000 to a crypto scheme while isolated during the pandemic, and Elizabeth talks about being scammed herself and her mother handing money to a stranger promising crypto returns. They get into the shame that keeps victims silent, the chat agencies that mean the person answering may not be the person in the photos, the red flags that show up before money moves, and why a parent who’s lonely is a target long before they’re a victim.

    Plus, we talk with an economics professor about the Federal Reserve’s decision this week to hike a key interest rate, and what it could mean for your loans and savings accounts.

    If you’re worried a parent is being scammed, you can access free guidance at the AARP Fraud Watch Network Helpline.

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    40 min
  15. IUL Insurance: Recession-Proof or a Risky Bet for Your Retirement?

    Show notes

    Is indexed universal life insurance “recession-proof?” Learn how it really works and whether it belongs in your retirement plan.

    Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola speak with NerdWallet insurance writer Elizabeth Aldrich about what IUL actually is. Aldrich breaks down the zero-percent floor that sounds like guaranteed protection (but doesn't mean you can't lose money), the truth behind the "better than a 401(k)" and "tax-free retirement" claims circulating online, and the narrow circumstances where an IUL might actually make sense.

    Read Lizzie's NerdWallet article on why “recession-proof” insurance is trending: https://www.nerdwallet.com/insurance/life/news/indexed-universal-life-insurance-trending

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    31 min
  16. Budget Rehab: A Debt-Free Couple Plans for a Wedding, House and Baby (Plus: Inside Disaster Betting Markets)

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    Learn how a debt-free couple budgets for a wedding, a house and a baby, plus why disaster betting markets are booming.

    How much of a $20,500 monthly income could go toward a wedding, a first home and a future baby, all within the same few years? Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola sit down with a debt-free military couple, Jack and Lauren, to dig into their budget and figure out where their savings could be prioritized. You'll hear how the couple built their monthly numbers, how their retirement contributions stack up years down the road, and where spending on subscriptions, transportation and eating out is quietly adding up.

    Would you bet money on whether a hurricane makes landfall, or an earthquake strikes? Senior news writer Anna Helhoski explains how prediction markets on platforms like Kalshi and Polymarket have turned natural disasters into tradable contracts worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, and why some researchers argue the practice is pricing catastrophe like just another guessing game.

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    Are you on track to save enough for retirement? Use NerdWallet’s free retirement calculator to check your progress, see how much retirement income you'll have and estimate how much more you should save: https://www.nerdwallet.com/investing/calculators/retirement-calculator

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    The Business of Betting on Natural Disasters: https://www.nerdwallet.com/finance/news/natural-disaster-prediction-markets

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    38 min
  17. Seven Steps for Prioritizing Money as a High Earner (from Your Next Dollar)

    Show notes

    Learn how high earners could prioritize their money across seven steps, from income growth to backdoor Roth strategies.

    Your Next Dollar host Andrew Giancola and NerdWallet Wealth Partners CEO Ryan Sterling walk through the seven-step Your Next Dollar Blueprint — an order of operations high earners could follow to prioritize their savings across accounts, from growing income and building an emergency fund to maxing out an HSA, 401(k), mega backdoor Roth, and more.

    Download the Your Next Dollar Blueprint at https://nerdwalletwealthpartners.com/blueprint

    Interested in working with a financial advisor? Visit nerdwalletwealthpartners.com

    NerdWallet Wealth Partners, LLC (“NWWP”) is an SEC-registered investment adviser. Registration does not imply skill or training nor does it constitute an endorsement by any securities regulator. The content presented by NWWP is for informational and educational purposes only and is not intended as personalized investment, tax, or legal advice to any person. The views, strategies and examples discussed are intended to be general in nature, may not reflect the experience of any particular client, are subject to change at any time based upon market or other conditions and may not be suitable for every individual. All investments involve risk, including potential loss of principal invested. Investment past performance is not a guarantee of future results. Before making any investment decision seek advice from a qualified investment, legal or tax professional.

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    44 min
  18. How Get Rich Slowly's Founder Retired at 40. Plus, What Higher Bond Yields Mean for Savers

    Show notes

    Learn how Get Rich Slowly creator JD Roth paid off $35,000 in debt and retired at 40. Then, learn what rising bond yields mean for savers and investors.

    Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola talk with JD Roth, founder of the personal finance blog Get Rich Slowly, about paying off $35,000 in consumer debt and eventually selling his blog to retire at age 40. JD explains the psychological shifts that got him out of debt, why growing his income mattered as much as cutting his spending, how he built one of the internet's first personal finance blogs, and how he's now helping his girlfriend, Kim, navigate her own path toward financial independence.

    Then, NerdWallet investing writer Sam Taube joins senior writer Anna Helhoski to break down why long-term Treasury yields have jumped to their highest levels in years — the 10-year Treasury is hovering around 4.8% and the 30-year yield has topped 5% — and what that means for anyone with a mortgage, a savings account or a bond portfolio. Sam explains why rising yields are good news for savers and bond buyers but bad news for people who already hold bonds, and why T-bills might be worth a look right now.

    Read NerdWallet's picks for the best brokers for investing in Treasury bills, bonds and notes athttps://www.nerdwallet.com/investing/best/best-brokers-for-treasury-bills-bonds-notes

    Curious about automated Treasury investing? Check out the Treasury account powered by Atomic at https://www.nerdwallet.com/lp/treasury-account-powered-by-atomic

    Read NerdWallet's review of Public.com: https://www.nerdwallet.com/investing/reviews/public

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    40 min
  19. Does a Pension Mean You're Set for Retirement? How to Know If You're Really on Track

    Show notes

    Learn how to measure your retirement progress when you have a pension and figure out how much more you really need to save.

    How do you know if your pension actually has you covered for retirement — or if you still need to keep saving aggressively alongside it? Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola sit down with Anna, a journeyman electrician in Portland whose union job comes with a defined benefit pension — yet she isn't sure whether that's enough to retire at 60. They explore how to account for a pension when gauging your retirement progress, why pension projections can be tricky when work hours vary, how to use the three-bucket framework (guaranteed income, invested accounts, and cash reserves) to see where your plan stands, and how Social Security projections could help you figure out exactly how much more you need to save.

    Pension Plan vs. 401(k): Types, Pros & Cons: https://www.nerdwallet.com/retirement/learn/pension-plan

    How Long Will My Money Last in Retirement? Calculator, How to Stretch It: https://www.nerdwallet.com/retirement/learn/how-long-will-your-retirement-savings-last

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    36 min
  20. Putting the "7% Rule" to the Test on a Real Mortgage. Plus, an Economist on Stubborn Food Prices

    Show notes

    Learn whether the "7% rule" for prioritizing debt payoff over investing applies to your mortgage. Plus: why your grocery bill keeps climbing.

    Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola talk with Max, a product designer in Portland who was laid off from his tech job earlier this year, about whether the so-called "7% rule" applies to something as big as a mortgage. They dig into when refinancing a 7.2% mortgage actually makes sense, why Max shouldn't wait to pay off his home before investing, whether to grow his emergency fund from six months to nine given the volatility in tech hiring, and how much cash is too much to hold outside the market.

    Then, NerdWallet's Anna Helhoski talks with David Ortega, a professor of food economics and policy at Michigan State University, about why grocery prices haven't come down even as inflation cools. Ortega explains that food prices are still more than 30% higher than before the pandemic, why eggs, beef and tomatoes have moved so differently in price, and how grocery chains' growing use of dynamic, airline-style pricing could shape what shoppers pay next.

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    38 min