Podcast
On Top of PR with Jason Mudd
On Top of PR is a podcast dedicated to helping corporate communications leaders leverage the power of PR to build a strong brand and great reputation. Each episode features guests to discuss PR and marketing topics, tips, and trends. We want to help every active and aspiring communication professional stay on top of PR.
It is one of the top 2.5% most popular podcast shows globally, according to Listen Notes' Listen Score, and among the top 100 marketing podcasts in the world on Apple Podcasts.
We've featured guests from Microsoft, Disney, Wells Fargo, Tyson Foods, Mall of America, Priceline, Southwest Airlines, and more.
About Jason Mudd
Jason Mudd is a professional public speaker, accredited public relations practitioner, published author, podcaster, and entrepreneur. The World Communication Forum named him North America’s top PR leader. He’s the CEO and managing partner of Axia Public Relations. Forbes Magazine named Axia as one of America’s Best PR Agencies. He is a trusted adviser and dynamic strategist to some of America’s most admired and fastest-growing companies. His past PR work includes American Airlines, Budweiser, Dave & Buster’s, H&R Block, Hilton, HP, Miller Lite, New York Life, Pizza Hut, Southern Comfort, and Verizon.
- Marketing chart
- #106
- Episodes
- 194
- Releases
- Weekly
- Typical length
- 44 min
- On air since
- 2020
- Latest episode
- 1 day ago
Episodes
194 episodes, newest first
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19 min
What does your SEO team need to know about earned media?
Episode 195
Show notes
In this solocast, On Top of PR host Jason Mudd explains what SEO teams need to know about earned media and how SEO and PR can work together to earn more AI citations.
Tune in to learn more!
Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. Why about 84% of AI citations come from earned media and only about 15% from your own website
2. How SEO and PR can divide the work based on the questions people ask AI
3. Why writing press releases for AI agents is a weak strategy
4. Four steps to turn your announcement into news reporters cover
5. How to set expectations with your CMO for time, control, and measurement
Quotables
"Collaborate with public relations. Not instead of SEO. With SEO." — @jasonmudd9
"Search needs public relations more than ever. Public relations needs search too." — @jasonmudd9
"You build the foundation. We earn the third-party proof." — @jasonmudd9
"You should be writing for journalists, not for AI agents." — @jasonmudd9
"Stop asking reporters to promote your company. Start giving them a reason to include you in their news stories." — @jasonmudd9
"Reporters don't promote companies. They tell stories." — @jasonmudd9
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Jason’s contact info and resources:
Muck Rack: What Is AI Reading? (October 2026 report)
Axia Public Relations resources
Request a free consultation with Axia Public Relations
Prioritizing PR over advertising with Laura Ries
Additional resources:
Why does AI skip your website and cite the news instead?
Listen to more episodes of the On Top of PR with Jason Mudd podcast
Find out more about Axia Public Relations
If you like this episode, you're going to love this:
AI and data-driven PR with Muck Rack's Matt Dzugan
Earned media-first PR in the AI era
The best argument for PR? Surprisingly, it's AI
Recorded: Oct. 31, 2026
• On Top of PR is produced by Axia Public Relations, named by Forbes as one of America’s Best PR Agencies. Axia is an expert PR firm for national brands.
• On Top of PR is sponsored by ReviewMaxer, the platform for monitoring, improving, and promoting online customer reviews. -
51 min
What PR Pioneers Say About PR Today
Show notes
In this episode, Shelley Spector, founder and CEO of the Museum of Public Relations, joins host Jason Mudd to share what PR pioneers can still teach today’s communicators.
Tune in to learn more!
Meet our guest:
Our guest is Shelley Spector, founder and CEO of the Museum of Public Relations. Located in New York, the museum houses more than 5,100 artifacts that chronicle PR history. Its AI-powered personas let you talk with PR pioneers in their own voices.
Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. What public relations originally meant and why the definition still matters
2. Why every strong PR program starts with research on your publics
3. How Ivy Lee, Edward Bernays, and Arthur Page shaped the PR profession
4. Why foundational PR principles get lost in the social media and AI era
5. How AI personas of PR pioneers help you brainstorm big ideas, get crisis advice, and pressure-test campaigns
Quotables
"The original usage is creating good relationships with all your publics." — Shelley Spector
"A very good PR program always starts with doing research." — Shelley Spector
"In my experience, clients want earned media. Clients want good, old-fashioned media relations." — Shelley Spector
“Instead of jumping to Instagram or TikTok, ask: What does the research say? What’s the strategy? What do we want for the objectives?” — Shelley Spector
“It’s time we put relationships back in public relations.” — Jason Mudd
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More about Shelley Spector
Shelley Spector is the founder and CEO of the Museum of Public Relations, the world's only museum dedicated to the global PR and communication profession. Since its 1997 founding in New York, the museum has built a collection of more than 5,100 artifacts that chronicle the history of PR. Visitors can now meet the world's only AI-powered personas of PR pioneers Edward Bernays, Arthur W. Page, Ivy Lee, and Walter Lippmann. The museum built each persona exclusively from the pioneer's own writings and interviews, so you hear each one in their own voice and personality.
Guest’s contact info and resources:
Museum of Public Relations website
Ask Eddie: Talk with the AI persona of Edward Bernays
Plan your visit to the Museum of Public Relations
Book: Always Live Better Than Your Clients
Additional resources:
Blog Post: What should I know about media relations and earned media coverage before hiring a PR firm?
Blog Post: Question-based crisis communication: What leaders miss online
Blog Post: How to develop buyer personas and avatars
If you like this episode, you're going to love these episodes:
Leveraging market insights to shape PR strategy
What you should know about earning media coverage
One brand, four generations: Why trust doesn't transfer
Recorded: Oct. 13, 2026
• On Top of PR is produced by Axia Public Relations, named by Forbes as one of America’s Best PR Agencies. Axia is an expert PR firm for national brands.
• On Top of PR is sponsored by ReviewMaxer, the platform for monitoring, improving, and promoting online customer reviews. -
31 min
One brand, four generations: Why trust doesn't transfer
Episode 193
Show notes
In this episode, Mari Considine, chief brand and marketing officer at Acenda Integrated Health, joins host Jason Mudd to discuss how to reach Gen Z, millennials, Gen X, and baby boomers with one brand promise.
Tune in to learn more!
Meet our guest:
Our guest is Mari Considine, chief brand and marketing officer at Acenda Integrated Health. Mari brings more than 25 years of executive leadership experience connecting brand storytelling with business strategy, especially in healthcare. She is a national speaker, an adjunct professor, and a PRSA ICON 2026 speaker on reaching four generations of patients.
Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. How to adapt your tone without changing your core message
2. Why trust doesn’t transfer across generations and how to choose the right messengers
3. Where patients now look for healthcare information
4. How to match the right message, messenger, and medium
5. How to adapt one brand promise to each generation without fragmenting your brand
Quotables
“Trust is the thing that is less transferable than other things.” — Mari Considine
“It's not about being everything to everyone, where your target audience is everyone. That's the nightmare scenario.” — Mari Considine
“If we're not on social media or we're not driving that audience to talk about us, then we're pretty much invisible.” — Mari Considine
“We're promoting the same product and the same service, and we're going to use the same core messaging. We're just going to tweak how we tell the story a little bit and where we're going to appear.” — Mari Considine
“People are using AI even when they either don't want to or don't realize they are.” — Jason Mudd
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Guest’s contact info and resources:
Acenda Integrated Health website
Additional Resources:
Earned media: The future of PR in the age of AI search
Why does AI skip your website and cite the news instead?
How earned media gets AI to remember your brand
If you like this episode, you’re going to love these episodes:
Behavioral science secrets behind top brands
Ageism in the workplace: Hiring bias, careers, and the future of work
The best argument for PR? Surprisingly, it's AI
Recorded: Oct. 8, 2026
• On Top of PR is produced by Axia Public Relations, named by Forbes as one of America’s Best PR Agencies. Axia is an expert PR firm for national brands.
• On Top of PR is sponsored by ReviewMaxer, the platform for monitoring, improving, and promoting online customer reviews. -
27 min
The AI trust problem: Can you trust your AI?
Episode 192
Show notes
In this episode, former Goldman Sachs partner Mike Ryan, CEO and co-founder of Bullet Point Network, joins host Jason Mudd to discuss the trust problem at the heart of AI, why trust is now the biggest barrier to enterprise AI adoption, and how you can keep human judgment in control of AI output.
Tune in to learn more!
Meet our guest:
Our guest is Mike Ryan, the CEO and co-founder of Bullet Point Network, an AI-driven investment platform. Mike is a former Goldman Sachs partner and global co-head of equities. He also served on the Harvard endowment’s investment committee.
Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. Why trust, not capability, is now the biggest barrier to enterprise AI adoption
2. How AI-enabled advisory support pairs speed with human judgment and quality control
3. Why off-the-shelf AI isn’t built for high-stakes communication
4. How AI can reduce the constant rebuild of senior communication
5. The 20-60-20 strategy for avoiding AI slop
Quotables
“If you can’t trust the information you’re getting, you can’t rely on it.” — Mike Ryan
“AI is not going to take the job of most smart people, but a person using AI better than you might take your job.” — Mike Ryan
“Just because you can produce it fast doesn’t mean you want it or want to distribute it.” — Mike Ryan
“You don’t want AI to take you fast in the wrong direction.” — Mike Ryan
“If you use AI the same way, you can elevate your thinking and your mindfulness about the organization and think more as a strategist.” — Jason Mudd
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More about Mike Ryan
Mike Ryan is CEO and co-founder of Bullet Point Network, an AI-driven investment platform built on an "AI + 1" philosophy that combines AI with human expertise to speed investment decisions. A former Goldman Sachs partner and global co-head of equities, and a former member of the Harvard endowment's investment committee, Mike brings more than 20 years of experience in investing, leadership, and advisory work. He serves as an adviser and board member for companies and nonprofits, with a personal focus on advancing education and economic opportunity.
Guest’s contact info and resources:
Additional Resources:
Fighting to be trustworthy to AI and humans
Reputation management for AI search: monitoring and response framework
7 responsible principles to guide the use of AI in public relations
If you like this episode, you're going to love these episodes:
The PR playbook for getting recommended by AI with Unusual
AI and PR with Microsoft’s CCO Frank Shaw
The future of PR in the age of AI with Agility PR
• On Top of PR is produced by Axia Public Relations, named by Forbes as one of America’s Best PR Agencies. Axia is an expert PR firm for national brands.
• On Top of PR is sponsored by ReviewMaxer, the platform for monitoring, improving, and promoting online customer reviews. -
13 min
Is your brand PR ready? 5 steps for the AI era
Episode 191
Show notes
In this episode, Slava Balykov joins host Jason Mudd to discuss how you can assess your brand's public relations readiness before a crisis or AI tool exposes your gaps. Slava shares his five-step framework, explains how to respond when AI gets your brand wrong, and reveals what executives really want from PR reporting.
Tune in to learn more!
Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
• How to assess your brand's PR readiness in the AI era
• Five steps to PR readiness
• Why you should understand your information environment before investing in AI optimization
• How to check what AI says about your organization and what to do when it’s wrong
• What executives want from PR reporting and why coverage volume rarely delivers itQuotables
• "Before optimizing anything, organizations need to understand the information environment that already exists around them." — Slava Balykov
• "Critical doesn't mean incorrect." — Slava Balykov
• "Treat readiness as an ongoing diagnostic, not a one-off exercise." — Slava Balykov
• "Quality is much more important than quantity." — Slava Balykov
• "Measuring impressions or the number of appearances feels like what people call vanity metrics, as opposed to true business impact." — Jason MuddIf you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to share it with a colleague or friend. You may also support us through Buy Me a Coffee or by leaving us a quick podcast review.
Guest’s contact info and resources:
• Slava Balykov on LinkedIn
• Slava's five steps to PR readiness in the AI era:• Establish your baseline.
Understand what information about your organization is currently discoverable and identify important gaps, contradictions, or outdated information.
• Review owned information.
Make sure your website, corporate pages, leadership profiles, and other controlled touchpoints clearly and accurately explain who you are and what you do.
• Look beyond owned channels.
Examine credible third-party sources, including media, industry publications, and other independent references, to understand the wider information environment around your organization.
• Diagnose the gaps.
Compare owned and external information. Investigate where they materially differ and determine whether the issue is outdated information, factual inconsistency, legitimate criticism, or a broader positioning gap.
• Monitor over time.
Information environments continually change. Regularly review important sources and AI-generated answers to identify new gaps and keep your communications foundation current.Additional Resources:
• Reputation management for AI search: Monitoring and response framework
• Rethinking reputation management in public relations for the AI era
• AI search is the new front page
• How do you measure PR? A guide to meaningful metrics
• Listen to more episodes of the On Top of PR with Jason Mudd podcast.
• Find out more about Axia Public Relations.If you like this episode, you're going to love this:
• AI and PR with Microsoft's CCO Frank Shaw
• The PR playbook for getting recommended by AI with Unusual
• How to prepare for any communication crisis with Tom Ciuba
• Crisis lessons learned from Southwest AirlinesRecorded: September 2026
• On Top of PR is produced by Axia Public Relations, named by Forbes as one of America’s Best PR Agencies. Axia is an expert PR firm for national brands.
• On Top of PR is sponsored by ReviewMaxer, the platform for monitoring, improving, and promoting online customer reviews. -
15 min
Why brands should lead with public relations
Episode 190
Show notes
In this solocast, On Top of PR host Jason Mudd explains why brands should earn attention before they buy it and how generative AI makes leading with PR more important for marketing leaders.
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Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. Why the order of PR and advertising matters when you launch something new
2. How Starbucks, Tesla, and Pepperidge Farm earned attention before they bought it
3. Why launching advertising first can spend your news value
4. How earned media shapes what generative AI platforms say about your brand
5. Which three questions to ask before your next launch
Quotables
“They earned attention before they bought it.” — @jasonmudd9
“Lead with PR. Then use advertising to amplify what PR helped build.” — @jasonmudd9
“If you have something new, different, or disruptive, you have something advertising can’t buy. You have news value.” — @jasonmudd9
“PR helped other people do the talking.” — @jasonmudd9
“You don’t always have to buy attention first. Sometimes the better strategy is to earn it.” — @jasonmudd9
If you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to share it with a colleague or friend. You may also support us through Buy Me a Coffee or by leaving us a quick podcast review.
Guest’s contact info and resources:
Prioritizing PR over advertising with Laura Ries | On Top of PR podcast
Muck Rack: What Is AI Reading? (May 2026)
PR Success Stories: From Struggling Startup to More Than $130 Million in Revenues
Additional Resources:
7 ways to build credibility using public relations
PR is now the front door to AI discovery
Listen to more episodes of the On Top of PR with Jason Mudd podcast
Find out more about Axia Public Relations
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The best argument for PR? Surprisingly, it’s AI
How public relations changes business outcomes
95% of AI citations come from PR content
Recorded: September, 2026
• On Top of PR is produced by Axia Public Relations, named by Forbes as one of America’s Best PR Agencies. Axia is an expert PR firm for national brands.
• On Top of PR is sponsored by ReviewMaxer, the platform for monitoring, improving, and promoting online customer reviews. -
49 min
Why business acumen is critical for PR professionals today
Episode 189
Show notes
In this episode, Ron Culp joins host Jason Mudd to discuss why business acumen now outweighs writing skills in PR hiring, the three stages of a corporate PR career, and five practical ways to build business acumen at any career stage.
Tune in to learn more!
Meet Our Guest:
Our guest is Ron Culp, a professional-in-residence at DePaul University and a former corporate chief communications officer. He brings decades of experience across government, corporate communications, public relations agencies, and higher education, where he helps prepare the next generation of PR professionals.
Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. Three stages of corporate public relations
2. Why business acumen has taken over writing skills as the top thing employers want
3. Five practical ways students and young professionals can build business acumen
4. Why understanding how your company makes money changes the decisions you make
5. Why business acumen matters
Quotables
"When what you're doing isn't having any impact on the business, you really have to question it. If you don't, you're gonna start being questioned." – Ron Culp
"You just make better decisions if you have a sense of what the business is all about." – Ron Culp
"Good writers are good thinkers, always has been the case, and good writers can be trained." – Ron Culp
"If we can't figure out how they make money, then I'm not sure we can be the trusted strategic partner that we need to be." – Jason Mudd
If you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to share it with a colleague or friend. You may also support us through Buy Me a Coffee or by leaving us a quick podcast review.
Guest’s contact info and resources:
Ageism in the workplace: Hiring bias, careers, and the future of work
How trusted strategic advisors influence leaders
Additional Resources:
Marketing leaders are reframing reputation management as a revenue strategy
Traditional PR doesn’t work anymore
How to turn social and reputation management into a revenue operating system
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Find out more about Axia Public Relations
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How public relations changes business outcomes
How communications professionals shape business success
Maximizing Agency Partnerships with Mark Riggs
Recorded: August, 2026
• On Top of PR is produced by Axia Public Relations, named by Forbes as one of America’s Best PR Agencies. Axia is an expert PR firm for national brands.
• On Top of PR is sponsored by ReviewMaxer, the platform for monitoring, improving, and promoting online customer reviews. -
50 min
AI can synthesize your data. It can't tell you what matters.
Episode 188
Show notes
In this episode, Jessica Barber Scott joins host Jason Mudd to discuss how public relations professionals can move beyond impressions and advertising value equivalency to measure outcomes and impact, build measurement frameworks around business objectives, and use AI without losing the human judgment a CFO relationship requires.
Tune in to learn more!
Meet our guest:
Our guest is Jessica Barber Scott, a senior communication professional with 15 years of experience across regulated financial services, state government, and higher education. She is a PRSA Silver Anvil Award winner for crisis communication and has advised C-suite leaders at organizations including TIAA, Corebridge Financial, and EverBank.
Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. Why AVE still shows up in reporting and what it costs you
2. How to climb the three tiers of PR measurement (outputs, outcomes, and impact)
3. Why your measurement framework should start with the business objective, not the data
4. Four moves that change the dynamic of any CFO budget meeting
5. What AI can do for measurement and what it can’t replace
Quotables
“The numbers are getting smaller as the work gets credible.” — Jessica Scott
“Come in with the data. Not with an apology, with data.” — Jessica Scott
“AI can pull faster. It can synthesize more broadly. It can find patterns across data at a scale that really no human team can match. But what it can't do is tell you whether you're measuring the right thing in the first place.” — Jessica Scott
“Getting media coverage is not a result. It's an output of the work and the effort that you made.” — Jason Mudd
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Guest’s contact info and resources:
Additional Resources:
The 3 biggest PR measurement mistakes
5 metrics you should measure in PR
Listen to more episodes of the On Top of PR with Jason Mudd podcast.
Find out more about Axia Public Relations.
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What you should be measuring in your PR campaigns with Johna Burke
Barcelona Principles 4.0: How to measure PR effectively with AMEC CEO Johna Burke
The power of PR measurement with Katie Delahaye Paine
Recorded: August, 2026
• On Top of PR is produced by Axia Public Relations, named by Forbes as one of America’s Best PR Agencies. Axia is an expert PR firm for national brands.
• On Top of PR is sponsored by ReviewMaxer, the platform for monitoring, improving, and promoting online customer reviews. -
46 min
Applying leadership frameworks to AI
Episode 187
Show notes
In this episode, Ken Jacobs, principal of Jacobs Consulting & Executive Coaching, joins host Jason Mudd to discuss how communications leaders can apply proven leadership principles to AI adoption.
Tune in to learn more!
Meet our guest:
Our guest is Ken Jacobs, principal of Jacobs Consulting & Executive Coaching. Ken helps public relations, communications, and marketing leaders become more effective and inspiring leaders through executive coaching and consulting. Before launching his consulting practice, he spent 25 years in leadership roles at leading PR agencies. He also hosts Taking the Lead, a leadership video podcast, and writes the quarterly Taking the Lead column for the Public Relations Society of America's Strategies & Tactics publication.
Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. How courageous leaders embrace AI
2. Why every organization needs AI guardrails
3. How leaders can build AI confidence
4. Why listening leads to stronger teams
5. How AI and human judgment work together
Quotables
"If you're not already deep in AI, you're behind, but it's also never too late." — Ken Jacobs
“Walk the walk, not just talk the talk.” — Ken Jacobs
“True leaders update their knowledge and fluency.” — Ken Jacobs
“You as a leader have to be able to ask the right kind of questions.” — Ken Jacobs
"Hire smart people and get out of their way." — Jason Mudd
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Guest’s contact info and resources:
Jacobs Consulting & Executive Coaching website
How to stay ahead of AI in communications and marketing
Four leadership tips to guide you through uncertain times
Additional resources:
What sources feed generative AI answers?
What Google AI Mode means for your PR and media strategy
How are AI tools changing PR jobs?
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Find out more about Axia Public Relations.
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The best argument for PR? Surprisingly, it's AI
95% of AI citations come from PR content
Managing communications and PR in the AI era
Embedded AI: The future of PR and communication workflows
Recorded: July, 2026
• On Top of PR is produced by Axia Public Relations, named by Forbes as one of America’s Best PR Agencies. Axia is an expert PR firm for national brands.
• On Top of PR is sponsored by ReviewMaxer, the platform for monitoring, improving, and promoting online customer reviews. -
46 min
Managing communications and PR in the AI era with Brenda Duran
Episode 186
Show notes
In this episode, LA County communications leader Brenda Duran joins host Jason Mudd to discuss how to manage communications and public relations in the AI era through trust and authentic storytelling.
Tune in to learn more!
Meet Our Guest:
Our guest is Brenda Duran, director of external affairs at the Los Angeles County Justice, Care and Opportunities Department. An award-winning public affairs and communications executive with more than 12 years of experience, Brenda specializes in crisis communications, community engagement, and building trust through authentic storytelling. A former journalist, she brings a unique perspective on how public institutions can communicate with transparency, empathy, and impact.
Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. The rise of AI in public relations
2. Building trust in a digital-first world
3. Leading communications during high-stakes moments
4. The power of authentic storytelling
5. The future of communications leadership
Quotables
“[AI] is not there to replace anything; it's more to enhance what we're already doing.” — Brenda Duran
“Trust isn't really built in with one campaign. It's earned through repeated reliable communication over time.” — Brenda Duran
“AI definitely cannot replace some fundamental things like strategic thinking, relationship building, emotional intelligence, ethics and cultural understanding. Those are things that no machine will ever be able to take from us.” — Brenda Duran
“We need to become AI literate, but you have to also remain human-centered.” — Brenda Duran
“We still have to be trusted strategic advisors, lead with strategy, lead with empathy and humanity, and just make the right choices of what's good and what's ethical for the marketplace.” — Jason Mudd
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Guest’s contact info and resources:
From newsroom to PR: Journalists making the switch
Transition from journalism to PR
Additional Resources:
AI in PR: Transforming communication strategies
The emerging role of AI in public relations
How to speak with clarity and authority during a crisis
Listen to more episodes of the On Top of PR with Jason Mudd podcast.
Find out more about Axia Public Relations.
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The best argument for PR? Surprisingly, it's AI
When a crisis hits, say this or stay silent
Effective crisis communications
Recorded: July, 2026
• On Top of PR is produced by Axia Public Relations, named by Forbes as one of America’s Best PR Agencies. Axia is an expert PR firm for national brands.
• On Top of PR is sponsored by ReviewMaxer, the platform for monitoring, improving, and promoting online customer reviews. -
9 min
How public relations changes business outcomes
Episode 185
Show notes
In this solocast, On Top of PR host Jason Mudd discusses how public relations drives awareness, credibility, trust, and demand to create measurable business outcomes beyond media coverage.
Tune in to learn more!
Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. Why organizations should measure PR by business outcomes instead of media outputs
2. How awareness can remove growth barriers for great products and services
3. Why earned media builds credibility that influences customer behavior
4. How visibility creates demand through real-world business examples
5. What marketing leaders should ask when evaluating PR performance
Quotables
“Organizations invest in PR because they want business results.” — @jasonmudd9
“The game didn't change; awareness changed.” — @jasonmudd9
“Awareness gets attention, credibility earns trust, and trust influences behavior.” — @jasonmudd9
“Public relations isn't magic, but when it's aligned with business objectives, it can be a powerful driver of business outcomes.” — @jasonmudd9
“Awareness influenced credibility. Credibility influenced demand, and demand influenced business outcomes.” — @jasonmudd9
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Contact info and resources:
How the power of PR saved Twister
PR Success Stories: From Struggling Startup to More Than $130 Million in Revenues
PR Success Stories: Media Coverage for HeadBlade Creates $25,000 in Website Sales
Axia Case Study Foundation Financial Group
Additional Resources:
7 ways to build credibility using public relations
5 ways PR can generate buzz for your business
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Find out more about Axia Public Relations
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3 ways franchisors can use PR to grow their company with John Hewitt
Recorded: June 15, 2026
• On Top of PR is produced by Axia Public Relations, named by Forbes as one of America’s Best PR Agencies. Axia is an expert PR firm for national brands.
• On Top of PR is sponsored by ReviewMaxer, the platform for monitoring, improving, and promoting online customer reviews. -
50 min
How trusted strategic advisors influence leaders
Show notes
In this episode, James (Jim) Lukaszewski joins host Jason Mudd to discuss how to influence leaders through trust, candor, and strategic communication.
Tune in to learn more!
Meet our guest:
Our guest is James (Jim) Lukaszewski, president and CEO of The Lukaszewski Group. Jim has advised business leaders through crises and high-stakes situations for more than five decades. He shares practical strategies for becoming the trusted strategic advisor leaders rely on when making important decisions.
Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. Why trusted advisors begin by understanding leadership challenges before communication challenges
2. How candor helps build credibility with executives
3. The Three-Minute Drill for presenting strategic recommendations
4. Why offering options instead of conclusions leads to better leadership decisions
5. How studying leadership helps communicators become more influential advisors
Quotables
“All problems are management and organizational problems before they are any other kind of problem.” — Jim Lukaszewski
“You have to start where the person you're advising is, not where you think the solution is.” — Jim Lukaszewski
“Management happens in real time.” — Jim Lukaszewski
“Anybody who can offer three perspectives or useful concepts about any problem the boss is facing is a valuable person.” — Jim Lukaszewski
“Your highest and best use … is being a trusted advisor to leadership.” — Jason Mudd
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Guest’s contact info and resources:
James E. Lukaszewski on YouTube
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Additional Resources:
Defining leadership in corporate communications
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Recorded: July, 2026
• On Top of PR is produced by Axia Public Relations, named by Forbes as one of America’s Best PR Agencies. Axia is an expert PR firm for national brands.
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29 min
Why PR is the last budget line you should cut (and what happens if you do)
Episode 182
Show notes
In this episode, Heidi Howell joins host Jason Mudd to discuss why organizations should think twice before cutting PR during economic uncertainty. They explore the connection between reputation, recruiting, employer branding, visibility, trust, and revenue growth.
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Meet our guest:
Our guest is Heidi Howell, she is a marketing executive who leads efforts to transform marketing into a revenue-driving function within healthcare staffing and human resources technology. She partners with executive teams to align marketing, sales, and operations through scalable systems, data-driven strategy, and growth-focused demand generation.
Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. Why public relations is often cut first and why that can be a costly mistake
2. How reputation directly impacts recruiting outcomes and talent acquisition
3. Why you should view recruiting as a revenue-driving function
4. How PR keeps you visible to top clients
5. Questions leaders should ask before reducing PR investmentsQuotables
“PR is not just about visibility; it's about trust, reputation, and staying known to the people who are ultimately going to be buying your services.” — Heidi Howell
“Recruiting is our revenue. That's how we make money. We make money by placing great candidates at great jobs with great clients.” — Heidi Howell
“When companies cut PR, they're cutting the very thing that keeps them visible.” — Heidi Howell
"When budgets are being cut, trust becomes more valuable, not less." — Heidi Howell
“In a down economy, trust becomes more valuable, not less. PR is one of the few functions built specifically to protect it.” — Jason Mudd
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Guest’s contact info and resources:
• Heidi Howell on LinkedIn
• How PR influences recruiting, retention, and workforce quality
• http://ratethispodcast.com/ontopofprAdditional Resources:
• Reputation management for AI search: Monitoring and response framework
• Warning signs your online reputation management is failing
• Axia’s reputation management service
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57 min
Inside the newsroom: Media relations advice from a former CNN producer
Episode 181
Show notes
In this episode, former CNN producer Tiffany Anthony joins host Jason Mudd to discuss media relations best practices, newsroom operations, and journalist preferences.
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Meet our guest:
Our guest is Tiffany Anthony, a communications and storytelling professional and former CNN cross-platform producer at Warner Bros. Discovery. With more than 18 years of experience in broadcast, digital, and social media, Tiffany has helped shape high-impact stories and audience engagement strategies while working inside local and national newsrooms.
Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. Why strong media relationships still matter, even when newsworthiness comes first
2. Common media pitching mistakes that damage credibility with journalists
3. How to effectively follow up with reporters without becoming a nuisance
4. Why understanding newsroom operations improves media relations success
5. How changing newsroom dynamics and audience behaviors are reshaping media relations
Quotables
“Relationships matter a lot when it comes to newsrooms as well as with PR. Basically, you don't want to be a stranger.” — @Tiffany Anthony
“You need to consume news yourself. You need to know what's going on.” — @Tiffany Anthony
“It is not always about the fastest anymore. It's about the most accurate, the most in-depth, the most personal.” — @Tiffany Anthony
“You have to grab the reporter's attention, just like we have to grab the viewer’s attention. And you have to do it quickly because people will lose interest; reporters will lose interest.” — @Tiffany Anthony
“Every touchpoint should add value to the relationship. Every touchpoint should be another piece of insight.” — @Jason Mudd
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Guest’s contact info and resources:
From newsroom to PR: How journalists can successfully make the switch
Additional Resources:
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The 4 R’s of media relations: Responsive, resourceful, rapid, and respect
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14 min
The best argument for PR? Surprisingly, it's AI
Episode 180
Show notes
In this solocast, On Top of PR host Jason Mudd explains why earned media now drives visibility in ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, and AI search.
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Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. Why earned media is the primary driver of visibility in AI-generated search
2. How ChatGPT, Gemini, and Claude determine which brands to recommend
3. What the 2% pitch overlap statistic means for PR and marketing teams
4. Why media velocity and recency matter more than one big placement
5. What to do right now: three actions to strengthen your brand's AI visibility
Quotables
“Earned media is what AI trusts.” — @jasonmudd9
“The right earned media in the right outlets at the right frequency is the primary lever for brand visibility and AI-generated search. Not one of the levers, it's the primary lever.” — @jasonmudd9
“The brands that figure this out first are going to own the narrative inside the AI tools their buyers are already using every day.” — @jasonmudd9
“99% of links cited by AI come from unpaid media.” — @jasonmudd9
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Contact info and resources:
Muck Rack: Earned media still drives 84% of AI citations
Gartner: Predicts 2026: Top Predictions to Inform 2026 Comms Strategies
http://ratethispodcast.com/ontopofpr
Additional Resources:
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Why AI tools now rely on earned media
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Recorded: June 06, 2026
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43 min
The secrets every professional speaker knows (that you don't)
Show notes
In this episode, Matt Mosich joins host Jason Mudd to discuss what separates professional speakers from aspiring speakers. From storytelling and stage presence to preparation, mindset, and memorable messaging, Matt shares practical insights from years of coaching executives, founders, and business leaders.
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Meet our guest:
Our guest is Matt Mosich, president and owner of The Mosich Group. Matt is a communication and speaker coach for executives, founders, and their teams. He helps clients prepare for and build keynotes, board presentations, podcasts, and media interviews.
Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. Why every point needs a story and every story needs a point
2. How great speakers collect stories from everyday experiences
3. Why audiences remember sentences, not speeches
4. The hidden preparation behind seemingly effortless presentations
5. How to use nerves as an advantage instead of trying to eliminate them
Quotables
“There are probably thousands of people out there who can speak on your topic. They might have the exact same conclusions that you do. The only difference is how you arrived at them.” — Matt Mosich
“The best speakers aren't more creative. They're better at noticing and writing down what everyone else walks past.” — Matt Mosich
“People remember sentences, not speeches.” — Matt Mosich
“Our mindset is how we observe the world; it's how we live our experience.” — Matt Mosich
“You have to show up as a professional in order to get paid like a professional.” — Jason Mudd
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Guest’s contact info and resources:
Additional Resources:
Axia Public Relations’ SpeakersBureau service
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The right way to apply for a speaking engagement
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47 min
From newsroom to PR: How journalists can successfully make the switch
Episode 178
Show notes
In this episode, CNN producer Tiffany Anthony joins host Jason Mudd to discuss one of the most talked-about career pivots in media today — journalists transitioning into public relations and corporate communications.
Tune in to learn more!
Meet our guest:
Our guest is Tiffany Anthony, cross-platform producer at CNN/Warner Brothers Discovery. Tiffany is a communications and storytelling professional with 18+ years of experience crafting clear, high-impact narratives across broadcast, digital, and social platforms. She has led messaging for high-stakes news and major public-facing initiatives, with a focus on audience engagement, clarity, and collaborative leadership.
Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. Why journalists are uniquely positioned to succeed in PR and corporate communications
2. How newsroom experience strengthens media relations, storytelling, and strategic communications
3. How former journalists can position their skills and experience to stand out in today’s PR job market
4. How AI, applicant tracking systems, and evolving hiring practices are changing communications careers
5. Why companies increasingly value journalists who understand newsrooms, audiences, and compelling stories
Quotables
“You always have to learn to adapt and evolve.” — Tiffany Anthony
“Some of the best stories are about people and interesting people. It’s not just about a product.” — Tiffany Anthony
"People want people's stories. They want to connect emotionally with stories. And I think a lot of companies forget that and lose sight of that." — Tiffany Anthony
“You have to be willing to say, ‘I’m no longer a journalist. I’m now a corporate storyteller.’” — Jason Mudd
"If you don't tell them, you won't sell them." — Jason Mudd
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Guest’s contact info and resources:
Public Relations Employment Statistics by BLS.gov
Additional Resources:
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Top 6 questions public relations students ask us about the PR industry
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1 hr 9 min
Advanced AI media relations strategies for public relations
Episode 177
Show notes
In this episode, Qwoted’s Shelby Bridges joins host Jason Mudd to discuss how AI, shrinking newsrooms, and faster news cycles are reshaping modern media relations and earned media strategies.
Tune in to learn more!
Meet our guest:
Our guest is Shelby Bridges, director of customer success at Qwoted. Shelby works at the intersection of PR, media, and technology, helping communicators build stronger relationships with journalists through smarter, more strategic data usage and platforms like Qwoted. She leads training, demos, and user initiatives that support agencies and brands in a fast-moving media landscape.
Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. Why modern news cycles now behave like breaking news by default
2. How shrinking newsrooms are increasing pressure on journalists and PR teams
3. Why responding within 48 hours significantly increases placement success
4. How AI is changing pitching, and why similarity is becoming a problem
5. Why diversification of angles and sources is critical for credibility
Quotables
“All news is almost breaking news now. It has to be told immediately and as quickly as possible because somebody else is already writing it.” — Shelby Bridges
“The people who are responding within the first 48 hours are the ones that are winning.” — Shelby Bridges
“Everybody should be able to use AI to pitch — but not to falsify data, personas, or companies.” — Shelby Bridges
“What journalists need is something that stands out and isn’t generic.” — Shelby Bridges
“If people in the room all look like you, you're not going to hear as good or thoughtful storytelling and insights as you might want.” — Jason Mudd
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Guest’s contact info and resources:
Additional Resources:
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45 min
When a crisis hits, say this or stay silent
Episode 176
Show notes
In this episode, University of Memphis expert Michele Ehrhart joins host Jason Mudd to discuss crisis communication, leadership preparedness, reputation management, and how organizations can navigate high-pressure situations with clarity and confidence.
Tune in to learn more!
Meet our guest:
Our guest is Michele Ehrhart, senior vice president and chief marketing and communications officer at the University of Memphis. Michele is a crisis communications expert with three decades of experience in corporate affairs, executive communications, and PR strategy.
Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. Why crisis preparation must happen before a crisis occurs
2. How leaders can use “what if” scenario planning to prepare for high-risk situations
3. Why silence can be a strategic communication choice depending on context
4. How reputation is built slowly but can be damaged quickly during a crisis
5. Why defining roles and responsibilities in advance improves crisis response execution
Quotables
“The day you have a crisis should not be the first day you've thought about what you'll do.” — Michele Ehrhart
“Planning the work and working the plan.” — Michele Ehrhart
“Silence is a strategy. If the story isn't yours, don't talk about it.” — Michele Ehrhart
“The brand is what you put out there; reputation is what they think of you.” — Michele Ehrhart
“When PR is at its best, it's building a reputation for your company — just not visibility, but also the reputation. You could have great visibility, but it's not positive.” – Jason Mudd
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More About Michele Ehrhart
Michele Ehrhart is a crisis communications expert with three decades of experience in corporate affairs, executive communications, and PR strategy. After 22 years with FedEx, she now serves as the University of Memphis's senior vice president and chief marketing and communications officer. She is a bestselling author, speaker, and industry expert helping leaders navigate crises with confidence and clarity.
Guest’s contact info and resources:
Get the “Crisis Compass: How to Communicate When It Matters Most” book
Axia’s Reputation Restoration service
Additional Resources:
How to recover from a PR crisis and manage your reputation
What is reputation management?
Build a crisis communication plan that works fast
Question-based crisis communication: What leaders miss online
How to build a crisis-resilient marketing and communication plan
https://www.axiapr.com/podcast
• On Top of PR is produced by Axia Public Relations, named by Forbes as one of America’s Best PR Agencies. Axia is an expert PR firm for national brands.
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8 min
How PR influences recruiting, retention, and workforce quality
Episode 175
Show notes
In this solocast, On Top of PR host Jason Mudd dives into how PR shapes recruiting, retention, and workforce quality through reputation.
Tune in to learn more!
Five things you’ll learn from this episode:
1. How candidates evaluate your reputation before your careers page
2. Why PR influences recruiting outcomes before HR gets involved
3. The role of visibility, credibility, and interpretation in hiring decisions
4. Why employer brand perception is formed in search and media results
5. How PR reduces hiring friction and improves talent quality
Quotables
“Candidates don't start with your careers page; they start with your reputation.” — @jasonmudd9
“Your careers page doesn't create perception. It confirms or contradicts what they already perceive or believe.” — @jasonmudd9
“Recruiting is a reputation-driven system.” — @jasonmudd9
“PR didn't create demand; it removed the friction that prevented their growth.” — @jasonmudd9
“Public relations doesn't just influence how customers see you, it influences who wants to work for you, who shows up, and how they perform.” — @jasonmudd9
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Contact info and resources:
LinkedIn Talent Solutions - Employer’s brand matters
Glassdoor - Employer Branding 101: Why, How and Proven ROI
http://ratethispodcast.com/ontopofpr
Additional Resources:
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