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Episode #300

This Episode

Is the real estate market finally entering a recovery, or is it still too early to jump back in?

In this deal review episode, Chris Lopez sits down with Brian Burke, author of The Hands-Off Investor and founder of Praxis Capital, to examine how today’s interest rate environment is shaping real estate opportunities. Brian explains how he is structuring and underwriting debt for senior housing investments within his healthcare fund, along with the risks LPs should consider. They also discuss where multifamily sits in the current market cycle, whether interest rates are more likely to rise or fall, and what investors should evaluate before committing capital to a sponsor or fund.

Key takeaways:

• How Brian is structuring debt for senior housing investments

• What changing interest rates could mean for real estate investors

• Why debt terms can significantly affect a deal’s risk

• Where multifamily may be in the current market cycle

• Whether current conditions are creating opportunities for LPs

• What passive investors should evaluate before investing with a sponsor

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In this episode of our LP Deal Review Series, Matt Johnson of McFarlin Group presents the McFarlin Longevity GP Fund III to our LP panel of Chris Lopez and Pascal Wagner.

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The comments, views, opinions and any forecasts of future events, returns or results expressed in this episode reflect the opinions of the given host or participants (including the personal opinions of PassivePockets employees or contractors, as applicable), are subject to change without notice, do not reflect the views of PassivePockets or its affiliates, may not reflect actual investment results, are not guarantees of future events, returns or results and are not intended to provide financial planning, investment advice, legal advice or tax advice. The accuracy, completeness or suitability of the information discussed in this podcast, including any comments, views, opinions, forecasts, graphs, charts, ratings, reviews, videos, and other audio and/or visual aids cannot be guaranteed, are not reviewed by PassivePockets, are provided for informational purposes only, and should not be solely relied upon in making an investment decision. PassivePockets receives compensation from sponsors in exchange for profiling sponsors and/or their sponsored deals in this episode; however, such paid advertisements shall not be construed as an endorsement, testimonial, or recommendation by PassivePockets to invest in any sponsor, investment strategy or investment opportunity. Investing in real estate is inherently risky and suitable only for sophisticated and qualified investors. Prospective investors should consult with their own investment advisors, financial advisors, and tax advisors, as applicable, in connection with any decision to invest.

The information on this website, including any graphs, charts, ratings, reviews, videos, and other visual aids, is for informational purposes only, and is not an offering of or solicitation to purchase securities or otherwise make an investment. PassivePockets is not responsible for ensuring or verifying that sponsor and/or deal information and offering materials are compliant with applicable law, including but not limited to securities laws or investment advisory regulations. PassivePockets receives compensation from sponsors in exchange for profiling sponsors and/or their sponsored deals on this website; however, such profiles and the sponsor-provided content therein shall not be construed as, and are not, endorsements, testimonials, or recommendations by PassivePockets. Any comments, views, opinions and any forecasts of future events, returns or results expressed in video content posted to this website, whether by PassivePockets, sponsors, or website users, reflect the opinions of the given author or speaker (including the personal opinions of PassivePockets employees or contractors, as applicable), are subject to change without notice, do not reflect the views of PassivePockets or its affiliates, may not reflect actual investment results, are not guarantees of future events, returns or results and are not intended to provide financial planning, investment advice, legal advice or tax advice. The accuracy, completeness or suitability of the (i) information and offering materials provided by a sponsor and (ii) the information discussed in video content posted to this website, including any comments, views, opinions, forecasts, graphs, charts, ratings, reviews, videos, and other visual aids, cannot be guaranteed, are not reviewed by PassivePockets, are provided for informational purposes only, and should not be solely relied upon in making an investment decision. No responsibility or liability is accepted or assumed by PassivePockets or any of its officers, agents or advisors as to the accuracy, sufficiency or completeness of any such video content. Investing in real estate is inherently risky and suitable only for sophisticated and qualified investors. Prospective investors should consult with their own investment advisors, financial advisors, and tax advisors, as applicable, in connection with any decision to invest.

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This Episode

The oldest baby boomers are turning 80 just as senior housing construction reaches its lowest level in more than a decade. Matt Johnson of McFarlin Group joins Chris Lopez to explain why this widening supply and demand gap could create one of the strongest real estate opportunities of the next several years.

Matt shares how he grew from buying a duplex near SMU into developing and acquiring senior living communities with institutional partners. He also discusses HUD financing, fixed-rate debt, fund structures, labor management, and the operating systems required to run properties that combine elements of housing, hospitality, and healthcare.

Key takeaways:

• Why the population of Americans over 80 is expected to grow rapidly

• How limited construction is affecting senior housing occupancy and rents

• What Matt learned launching McFarlin Group during the Great Recession

• Why his team prefers fixed-rate debt and patient capital

• How GP funds give individual investors access to institutional deals

• Why controlling labor costs is essential to senior housing performance

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This Episode

For lifelong active investors, the hardest part of going passive may be giving up control. Jonathan Greene grew up evaluating properties alongside his father and spent decades investing, managing rentals, and flipping houses before making his first syndication investment.

Jonathan joins Chris Lopez to explain how he evaluates sponsors, assets, and debt without relying on projected IRRs. He also shares why passive investments have helped him diversify into new markets, preserve capital for his children, and become more selective about the active real estate projects he still wants to pursue.

Key takeaways:

• How Jonathan made the transition from active investor to LP

• Why trust, the underlying asset, and debt matter more than projected returns

• How monthly reports can reveal problems before a deal goes sideways

• Why he invested repeatedly with one proven sponsor

• What attracted him to a wellness resort development in Palm Springs

• How active and passive investments can strengthen the same portfolio

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This Episode

Can an evergreen fund deliver the benefits of long-term real estate ownership without forcing investors to start over with every new deal? Ellis Hammond of Aspen Funds presents the Aspen Legacy Fund, a multifamily fund designed to compound capital, limit tax drag, and provide exposure to multiple properties through a single K-1.

Chris Lopez, Pascal Wagner, and Christine Kwasny examine the fund’s assets, debt, valuation process, liquidity provisions, and investment strategy. They also press Ellis on refinancing risk, related-party investments, NAV calculations, redemption limits, and what investors should understand before treating a two-year lockup as true liquidity.

Key takeaways:

• How the evergreen structure is designed to reduce taxes and deployment lag

• Why the fund reinvests income instead of paying regular distributions

• How direct ownership, JV investments, and private credit fit into the portfolio

• How Aspen calculates NAV and values the underlying properties

• The refinancing risks tied to the fund’s multifamily debt

• Why redemption requests remain subject to liquidity and best efforts

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After nearly 25 years as an LP, Jeremy Roll is 99% on the sidelines. He joins Chris Lopez to explain why he believes real estate still has more pain ahead, what would bring him back into the market, and why positive leverage remains his clearest measure of whether a deal is fairly priced.

Jeremy also shares the few asset classes he is watching, how he built a portfolio spanning more than 60 active LLCs, and the conservative standards that helped him avoid many of the problems now facing other investors. Plus, he explains why LPs should consider the economic cycle, read every operating agreement, and run background checks before committing capital.

Key takeaways:

• Why Jeremy is holding cash while continuing to review deals

• The opportunities he sees in mobile home parks and senior housing

• How positive leverage helps determine whether a deal is fairly priced

• Why he prefers long-term fixed-rate debt and lower leverage

• How LPs can diversify across deals, operators, markets, and asset classes

• The due diligence steps Jeremy believes too many investors skip

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Self-storage has long been considered recession resilient, but what happens when high interest rates freeze the housing market and fewer people move? Neil Henderson of Nomad Capital joins Chris Lopez to explain why the industry is facing one of its most difficult markets in decades and what could finally restart demand.

Neil also breaks down Nomad’s strategy of converting vacant big-box stores into climate-controlled storage at roughly half the cost of ground-up construction. They discuss current deal economics, slower lease-ups, competition from major REITs, and why shopping centers with existing retail income could offer investors a valuable margin of safety.

Key takeaways:

• Why self-storage demand is closely connected to home sales

• How big-box conversions can cost significantly less than new construction

• Why slower lease-ups have delayed distributions for storage investors

• What fixed-rate debt can protect during a difficult market cycle

• How major storage REITs can pressure smaller operators

• Where Neil sees the strongest self-storage opportunities heading into 2027

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Episode #293

This Episode

Would you invest in an income fund created primarily to lend money back to its own sponsor? Chris Lopez, Adam Cranmer, Pascal Wagner, and Christy Burakovsky examine the conflicts, hidden risks, and missing checks and balances that LPs should consider before investing on both sides of the same operation.

The panel also shares real portfolio updates involving capital calls, securitization, debt funds, and multifamily distributions. Plus, they discuss whether monthly payouts should influence an investment decision, how much confidence audited financials should provide, and why several panelists continue converting retirement funds to Roth accounts.

Key takeaways:

• The risks of investing in a fund that lends to its own sponsor

• Why third-party lenders can provide valuable oversight

• How to distinguish a planned capital call from a troubled one

• Whether monthly distributions are worth prioritizing over quarterly payouts

• Why audited financials are only one piece of fund due diligence

• How the panel approaches Roth conversions and future tax uncertainty

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What if you could earn real estate-backed income without owning or operating the property? Shawn Muneio joins Chris Lopez to explain how investors can access private credit through performing second-lien mortgages and why today’s high-interest-rate environment has created new opportunities in this overlooked corner of the debt market.

Shawn breaks down how these loans are sourced, what protects investors when a borrower falls behind, and why equity coverage matters when investing from the second position. They also discuss Regulation A bonds, how they differ from traditional LP investments, and how nonperforming debt can offer an alternative way to source real estate.

Key takeaways:

• Why second-lien mortgages are becoming more common

• How equity coverage can protect junior-lien investors

• What happens when a borrower stops making payments

• How Regulation A bonds differ from traditional LP investments

• Why some investors prefer receiving a 1099 instead of a K-1

• How nonperforming debt can uncover off-market real estate opportunities

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Ryan Watts of Red River Development returns to PassivePockets for an LP Deal Review of the firm’s latest build-to-rent project: a 206-home community currently under construction in Waco, Texas. Ryan walks Chris, Christy Burakovsky, and Pascal Wagner through the project’s capital structure, construction progress, market thesis, and projected exit strategy and explains why Red River believes this point in the development cycle may offer a compelling setup for new BTR supply.

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The comments, views, opinions and any forecasts of future events, returns or results expressed in this episode reflect the opinions of the given host or participants (including the personal opinions of PassivePockets employees or contractors, as applicable), are subject to change without notice, do not reflect the views of PassivePockets or its affiliates, may not reflect actual investment results, are not guarantees of future events, returns or results and are not intended to provide financial planning, investment advice, legal advice or tax advice. The accuracy, completeness or suitability of the information discussed in this podcast, including any comments, views, opinions, forecasts, graphs, charts, ratings, reviews, videos, and other audio and/or visual aids cannot be guaranteed, are not reviewed by PassivePockets, are provided for informational purposes only, and should not be solely relied upon in making an investment decision. PassivePockets receives compensation from sponsors in exchange for profiling sponsors and/or their sponsored deals in this episode; however, such paid advertisements shall not be construed as an endorsement, testimonial, or recommendation by PassivePockets to invest in any sponsor, investment strategy or investment opportunity. Investing in real estate is inherently risky and suitable only for sophisticated and qualified investors. Prospective investors should consult with their own investment advisors, financial advisors, and tax advisors, as applicable, in connection with any decision to invest.

The information on this website, including any graphs, charts, ratings, reviews, videos, and other visual aids, is for informational purposes only, and is not an offering of or solicitation to purchase securities or otherwise make an investment. PassivePockets is not responsible for ensuring or verifying that sponsor and/or deal information and offering materials are compliant with applicable law, including but not limited to securities laws or investment advisory regulations. PassivePockets receives compensation from sponsors in exchange for profiling sponsors and/or their sponsored deals on this website; however, such profiles and the sponsor-provided content therein shall not be construed as, and are not, endorsements, testimonials, or recommendations by PassivePockets. Any comments, views, opinions and any forecasts of future events, returns or results expressed in video content posted to this website, whether by PassivePockets, sponsors, or website users, reflect the opinions of the given author or speaker (including the personal opinions of PassivePockets employees or contractors, as applicable), are subject to change without notice, do not reflect the views of PassivePockets or its affiliates, may not reflect actual investment results, are not guarantees of future events, returns or results and are not intended to provide financial planning, investment advice, legal advice or tax advice. The accuracy, completeness or suitability of the (i) information and offering materials provided by a sponsor and (ii) the information discussed in video content posted to this website, including any comments, views, opinions, forecasts, graphs, charts, ratings, reviews, videos, and other visual aids, cannot be guaranteed, are not reviewed by PassivePockets, are provided for informational purposes only, and should not be solely relied upon in making an investment decision. No responsibility or liability is accepted or assumed by PassivePockets or any of its officers, agents or advisors as to the accuracy, sufficiency or completeness of any such video content. Investing in real estate is inherently risky and suitable only for sophisticated and qualified investors. Prospective investors should consult with their own investment advisors, financial advisors, and tax advisors, as applicable, in connection with any decision to invest.

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Kevin Amolsch returns to PassivePockets to take Chris behind the scenes of private lending and debt funds from how lenders actually make money to the underwriting decisions that determine whether investor capital stays protected when a deal goes sideways.

Kevin has been lending to real estate investors for nearly two decades through Pine Financial Group, and he walks through how the business evolved from brokering individual private loans into managing diversified debt funds. He explains why Pine prioritizes return of capital over maximizing return on capital, how its fund economics are structured, and why the company is willing to make underwriting more difficult for borrowers if it means creating a larger margin of safety for LPs.

Chris and Kevin dig into the actual credit box behind these loans: loan-to-ARV limits, borrower liquidity, personal guarantees, credit history, monthly payments, construction draws, and why Kevin will automatically pass on certain out-of-market borrowers. Kevin also explains why Pine is willing in some cases to finance nearly an entire project if the underlying economics and after-repair value create enough protection.

The conversation also gets into what happens when things go wrong. Kevin shares how Pine evaluates REOs, when taking a loss today may be smarter than holding a property for years, why liquidity mismatches can create problems even when the underlying assets are performing, and how the firm uses leverage conservatively rather than simply maximizing it to boost returns.

They also discuss fraud risk in private lending, the importance of title insurance and draw controls, and the operational safeguards Kevin believes investors should look for in a debt fund, including audited financials, third-party administration, and outside diligence. Finally, Kevin shares what he’s investing in personally outside of lending—including retail, industrial, and a troubled industrial development where he ultimately chose to buy one of the buildings rather than walk away from his original investment.

Key Takeaways

How private lending evolved from individual hard-money loans into diversified debt funds

Why Pine Financial prioritizes loan-to-ARV, borrower liquidity, guarantees, and monthly payments in its underwriting

How debt fund economics work—from preferred returns and management fees to origination income and leverage

Why Kevin views return of capital as more important than maximizing return on capital

How lenders decide whether to foreclose, hold an REO, take a loss, or redeploy capital

Why liquidity mismatches can create redemption problems even when a loan portfolio is still performing

How conservative versus aggressive fund leverage can materially change both returns and risk

The fraud controls Kevin uses around construction draws, title work, and lien priority

Why audited financials, third-party administration, and independent diligence matter when evaluating a debt fund

What Kevin is investing in personally today across retail and industrial real estate

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Episode #289

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Pascal Wagner joins Chris Lopez for a deeper one-on-one conversation about his investing journey, portfolio strategy, and current approach to risk, cash flow, and diversification. Pascal shares how he started in real estate through house hacking and single-family rentals, later gained experience deploying capital at a venture capital fund, and eventually became the financial steward for his family after his father passed away.

Chris and Pascal unpack how that responsibility shaped Pascal’s investment philosophy: stabilize cash flow first, avoid catastrophic losses, and only take bigger swings once the portfolio can support long-term family needs. Pascal explains why he moved heavily into debt funds, how he thinks about laddering fixed-income investments for liquidity, and why he is now looking to gradually reduce some of that exposure as better equity opportunities emerge.

The conversation also gets into the tension many LPs face right now: wanting cash flow, wanting tax efficiency, needing diversification, and trying not to become “dumb money” in an unfamiliar asset class. Pascal shares the areas he’s watching most closely, including distressed/repositioning opportunities, office-to-medical-office conversions, hotel-to-multifamily conversions, single-family rentals, private credit, medical receivables, and other non-real-estate income strategies.

Chris and Pascal also debate how much conviction an investor should build before writing checks in a new asset class, why seeing enough deal flow matters, and why meeting with ten operators in the same strategy can teach you more than any checklist alone. For investors trying to deploy capital in a fragmented private market, this episode is a practical reminder that patience, process, and reps matter.

Key takeaways:

How Pascal went from house hacking to managing a multimillion-dollar family portfolio

Why cash flow became the first constraint in his portfolio strategy

How Pascal uses debt funds as a stabilizing layer while staying patient for better deals

Why diversification matters, but only after you understand the asset class well enough to avoid bad risks

How taxes, liquidity, and ordinary income influence portfolio rebalancing decisions

Why Pascal is watching repositioning strategies like office-to-medical-office and hotel-to-multifamily conversions

How investors can build conviction by studying more deals and talking to multiple operators before investing

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Alicia Miller joins PassivePockets to break down Qualified Opportunity Zones, why they matter for real estate investors, and how they can fit into an active-to-passive transition strategy. Chris and Alicia start with the basics: what a QOZ is, how the original program worked, and why investors with capital gains from selling real estate, a business, or other appreciated assets may want to understand this structure before making their next move.

They walk through the key differences between QOZ investing and a 1031 exchange, including why QOZs only require investors to reinvest the capital gain, not the full sale proceeds, and why the money does not need to be held by a qualified intermediary. Alicia also explains the original QOZ timeline, the upcoming shift into QOZ 2.0, and how the new version creates a rolling five-year capital gains deferral with a 10% reduction, or 30% for qualifying rural investments.

Chris and Alicia also dig into a timely QOZ 1.0 strategy: using a valuation study on a development project that has broken ground but is not yet cash flowing. Alicia explains how this could potentially create an upfront capital gains deduction before the original program sunsets, why the timing matters, and how investors should think about the trade-offs between tax benefits, development risk, and long-term hold periods.

Key takeaways:

What Qualified Opportunity Zones are and why they were created

How QOZs can help landlords move from active ownership into passive investments

Why QOZs differ from 1031 exchanges in timelines, reinvestment rules, and flexibility

How QOZ 1.0 allowed investors to defer gains until the end of 2026 and potentially receive deductions based on hold period

What changes under QOZ 2.0, including rolling five-year deferrals and new zone designations

Why the 10-year hold remains the major long-term tax benefit for QOZ investors

How valuation studies may create a unique window for certain QOZ 1.0 development investments

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This Episode

Chris breaks down one of the biggest questions active real estate investors face as their portfolios mature: should you keep, refinance, or sell your rental properties?

Drawing from his own shift from active landlord to passive investor, Chris explains why many investors get stuck evaluating properties based on their original investment instead of their current equity. A rental that looks like an “infinite return” on paper may actually be producing weak cash flow on equity or underperforming compared to simpler, more passive alternatives.

The episode walks through a practical framework for re-underwriting each asset in your portfolio every year. Chris explains how to evaluate whether a property still aligns with your cash flow goals, lifestyle goals, and “do not want” list, especially if you are trying to reduce management headaches, increase income, or transition into more passive investments.

Chris also compares several real-world paths: keeping and optimizing a rental, doing a cash-out refinance and reinvesting the proceeds, selling and paying taxes, using a traditional 1031 exchange, or using a “lazy 1031” strategy where depreciation from a new investment may help offset taxes. The goal is not to prescribe one right answer, but to challenge the assumption that holding forever or avoiding taxes at all costs is always the best move.

Key takeaways:

Why original cash-on-cash return can be misleading once a property has built significant equity

How to calculate cash flow on equity and return on equity

Why your portfolio decisions should start with cash flow and lifestyle goals

How to use the keep, refi, or sell framework for each rental property

When a cash-out refinance can increase cash flow without selling the asset

Why paying taxes may still make sense if the remaining capital can be redeployed into better-performing investments

How “lazy 1031” strategies, depreciation, DSTs, 721 exchanges, and other tools can help active investors transition toward passive ownership

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In this PassivePockets community roundtable, Chris Lopez sits down with Adam Cranmer, Pascal Wagner, and Christy Burakovsky to talk through real portfolio moves, new investments, and the questions LPs should be asking before and after they write a check.

The conversation starts with portfolio updates: Adam shares why he invested in Alturas’ retail-focused fund through an SPV, passed on a strong sponsor because the deal was outside their core market, and received capital back from a debt fund that no longer fit the team’s risk/reward standards. Pascal walks through how he’s helping manage his mom’s portfolio by diversifying across multiple credit and lending funds, while also keeping dry powder available for single-family foreclosure opportunities. Christy shares why she’s still looking at single-family for tax planning purposes and why she recently invested in a non-performing loan fund after getting comfortable with the math, risk profile, and strategy.

Then the group digs into a nuanced but important LP topic: return of capital vs. return on capital. Christy breaks down how distributions can either reduce your invested basis or represent earnings on top of your original investment, and why that difference can impact taxes, pref calculations, redemption mechanics, and long-term portfolio tracking. The panel debates whether return of capital truly de-risks an investment, how compounding can quietly increase exposure to a single deal or operator, and why LPs need to understand how these mechanics are written into the legal documents.

Finally, the roundtable turns to sponsor questions and due diligence etiquette. Adam shares a recent example of an operator who stopped accepting capital from PassivePockets members because the volume of questions became too time-consuming. The group debates where the line is between reasonable diligence and overwhelming a sponsor, why LPs should not be afraid to ask thoughtful questions, and how operators can reduce friction with better data rooms, clear reporting, and transparent communication. The takeaway: ask the questions, understand what you’re asking, and remember that good diligence continues after the wire is sent.

Key takeaways:

• How experienced LPs are repositioning portfolios across retail, debt funds, NPLs, and single-family rentals
• Why Adam passed on a strong sponsor when the deal fell outside their proven market expertise
• How Pascal thinks about diversification, cash flow, and protecting family capital
• Why Christy is focused on tax planning, single-family exposure, and non-performing loans
• The difference between return of capital and return on capital, and why it matters
• How compounding can unintentionally increase concentration risk
• Why LPs should ask better questions, not just more questions
• How data rooms, reporting, and sponsor communication can make diligence more efficient
• Why post-investment follow-up is just as important as upfront diligence

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This Episode

Ryan and Steven Watts of Red River Development join Chris to break down the build-to-rent market, why Red River focuses on secondary markets, and how recent housing legislation could reshape the future of single-family rental investing.

Ryan and Steven share how their backgrounds in energy, banking, construction, development, and property management led them to launch Red River in 2020, right as COVID was reshaping housing demand and capital markets. Since then, the company has grown to more than 2,200 units and roughly $690 million in assets under management, with a focus on purpose-built rental communities designed for renters who want more space, privacy, and flexibility than traditional apartments can offer.

The conversation also digs into the 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act and why early Senate language could have been highly disruptive to the build-to-rent industry. Steven explains why the final version was ultimately positive for BTR, how it preserved the distinction between scattered-site single-family rental aggregation and purpose-built rental communities, and why institutional capital may increasingly shift toward BTR as a result.

Chris, Ryan, and Steven also get tactical on Red River’s current Waco, Texas project: a 206-home Trulo Homes community on 20 acres near major retail, entertainment, downtown Waco, and Baylor University. They walk through the capital stack, construction debt, personal guarantees, commercial construction approach, phasing strategy, and how Red River de-risks development by lining up permits, contractors, GMP pricing, and leasing phases before and during construction.

Key takeaways:

• How Ryan and Steven’s backgrounds led to the launch of Red River Development
• Why build-to-rent serves renters graduating out of apartments or downsizing from homeownership
• How the 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act changed from a potential BTR headwind into a positive catalyst
• Why institutional capital may move away from scattered-site rentals and toward purpose-built BTR communities
• What Red River looks for in secondary markets, suburban sites, demographics, schools, retail access, and job centers
• How the Waco project is structured, including a 65% loan-to-cost construction loan and a $55 million total capitalization
• Why Red River uses a commercial construction approach to build faster and reduce execution risk

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Jeff Axley of Ridgeline Capital Partners joins Chris to break down medical office buildings, one of the healthcare real estate niches more LPs are starting to pay attention to. Jeff walks through how his background across office, multifamily, development, restructuring, industrial, and master-planned communities ultimately led him to focus on medical office as a more durable, recession-resilient asset class.

Chris and Jeff start with the basics: what medical office buildings are, how they differ from hospitals, senior housing, skilled nursing, assisted living, and other parts of the healthcare real estate landscape, and why outpatient care has become such an important long-term trend. Jeff explains why medical office can behave like traditional office in some ways, but with important differences: longer leases, triple-net structures, higher tenant improvement costs, more specialized build-outs, and stickier tenants who are much harder to move once they have expensive medical infrastructure in place.

They also dig into the current market opportunity. While traditional office and multifamily have faced major headwinds, medical office occupancy and rents remain strong, with supply typically built to match tenant demand rather than speculative growth. Jeff explains why buying existing medical office at a meaningful discount to replacement cost can create a protected basis, how rising construction costs support the value of existing buildings, and what LPs should look for when evaluating MOB underwriting.

Key takeaways:

What medical office buildings are and how they fit into the broader healthcare real estate landscape

Why outpatient care, aging demographics, technology, and reimbursement pressure support long-term MOB demand

How medical office differs from traditional office through lease structure, tenant improvements, plumbing, foot traffic, and tenant stickiness

Why MOB supply is typically more controlled than multifamily or traditional office supply

How triple-net leases help owners pass through operating expenses, while still requiring competitive cost management

Why replacement cost matters and how buying existing buildings below new construction cost can create downside protection

What LPs should watch in MOB deals, including going-in cap rate, cost of financing, positive leverage, stabilized yield on cost, and exit cap assumptions

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August Biniaz of CPI Capital joins Chris to unpack why his firm is bringing Canadian capital into U.S. real estate and why he believes the U.S. remains one of the most attractive rental markets in the world. August walks through his path from fix-and-flips and ground-up construction to launching CPI Capital, a firm built to help Canadian investors access U.S. multifamily and build-to-rent opportunities.

Chris and August dig into the cross-border investing mechanics, including why Canadian investors look south for stronger yields, how withholding taxes and entity structures matter, and why CPI uses limited partnerships rather than LLCs for syndicated deals involving Canadian capital. August also explains how CPI recently created a vehicle that allows Canadian investors to use retirement accounts for U.S. real estate investments.

The conversation then shifts to the current multifamily cycle. August shares why he believes Sunbelt multifamily is near the bottom of the cycle, why distress and repricing may create attractive entry points, and how CPI is evaluating a Dallas-area deal that has corrected significantly from its 2022 basis. Chris pushes on downside risk, debt maturity, interest rates, and macro uncertainty, while August explains why he believes conviction, basis, and business plan discipline matter most in this phase of the cycle.

They also discuss CPI’s build-to-rent strategy, including duplex communities in San Antonio, a build-to-hold project in Denton, and why August views BTR as “horizontal multifamily” serving a growing renter-by-choice demographic.

Key takeaways:

Why CPI Capital was created to help Canadian investors access U.S. real estate

How U.S. multifamily yields compare to similar Canadian markets

Why cross-border tax structure, withholding, and entity choice matter

How Canadian retirement accounts can be directed into certain real estate vehicles

Why August believes Sunbelt multifamily is near the bottom of the cycle

How CPI is underwriting distressed or repriced multifamily opportunities today

Why CPI is focused on Texas and Florida, especially DFW, San Antonio, and Tampa

How build-to-rent fits CPI’s thesis and serves renters by choice

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This Episode

Matthew Sinclair returns to PassivePockets to break down the build-to-rent market, the state of single-family institutional investing, and why he believes BTR is still in the early innings compared to traditional multifamily. Drawing on his background in real estate investment banking and private equity, Matthew explains why home affordability, demographic shifts, and renter preferences are creating long-term demand for professionally managed single-family rentals.

Chris and Matthew dig into how BTR compares to scattered-site single-family rentals, why large institutions are increasingly recycling capital out of older homes and into newer construction, and how interest rates are reshaping the economics of the space. Matthew also explains how his firm is approaching the market today: buying newer homes from builders at favorable basis, prioritizing cash flow over aggressive appreciation assumptions, and focusing on operational efficiency in markets where cap rates can support distributions.

The conversation also covers the recent housing legislation impacting institutional single-family ownership, why contiguous BTR communities may have a clearer path forward than scattered-site portfolios, and how uncertainty around regulation, interest rates, and exit markets should affect underwriting. For LPs evaluating residential real estate today, this episode is a practical look at how to think about basis, margins, tenant demand, builder incentives, and risk management in a higher-rate environment.

Key takeaways:

Why Matthew believes build-to-rent is still 20–30 years behind multifamily in institutional adoption

How affordability pressures are extending the renter lifecycle and supporting demand for single-family rentals

Why many institutions are selling older scattered-site homes and focusing more on new construction BTR

How higher interest rates create challenges for valuations but opportunities for basis-driven buyers

Why Matthew prioritizes cash flow, operating margin, and tenant retention over aggressive appreciation assumptions

How new housing legislation may affect institutional single-family ownership and the future of contiguous BTR communities

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In this special LP Deal Review episode, Chris Lopez is joined by Adam Cranmer and Pascal Wagner to evaluate DLP Capital’s Preferred Credit Fund with Don Wenner, founder and CEO of DLP Capital. Don walks through the fund’s strategy, target return profile, underwriting process, borrower standards, and how DLP approaches development, construction, bridge, mezzanine, and preferred equity lending in today’s market.

The discussion digs into why DLP focuses on housing that is affordable for working families, how the firm thinks about lending in high-growth Sunbelt markets, and what separates its Preferred Credit Fund from a senior secured lending fund. Don also addresses several of the key diligence questions LPs should be asking right now, including geographic concentration risk in Florida and Texas, loan-to-value and loan-to-cost metrics, borrower concentration, third-party validation, fund administration, internal controls, and how rising interest rates could affect the fund’s risk profile.

After Don leaves the conversation, Chris, Adam, and Pascal break down the fund from an LP perspective. They discuss what they like about DLP’s track record, reporting, borrower quality, and institutional infrastructure, while also highlighting the risks they are watching closely, including mezzanine exposure, state concentration, self-dealing concerns, fees, macro uncertainty, and whether the return spread is attractive enough compared to risk-free alternatives. The episode closes with a broader conversation about how LPs should think about risk, liquidity, debt versus equity, and portfolio construction in an uncertain investing environment.

Key takeaways:

• How DLP’s Preferred Credit Fund targets monthly income through private real estate credit
• Why DLP focuses on housing affordability, experienced borrowers, and Sunbelt growth markets
• How Don compares mezzanine and preferred equity risk to senior secured lending fund risk
• What LPs should ask about loan-to-value, loan-to-cost, borrower concentration, and fund-level controls
• Why third-party audits, appraisals, loan tapes, and investor reporting matter in debt fund diligence
• How experienced LPs think about DLP’s strengths, yellow flags, fees, concentration risk, and macro exposure
• Why each investor needs a clear portfolio thesis before choosing between cash, Treasuries, debt funds, or equity deals

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