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PowerGridTalks: From the Bucket Trucks to the Boardrooms

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PowerGridTalks: From the Bucket Trucks to the Boardrooms is a podcast hosted by Thomas Williamson, that bridges the gap between the field and the executive suite in the electric utility industry. Each episode dives into real conversations with linemen, utility leaders, and industry decision-makers to uncover the challenges, innovations, and stories shaping our power grid. From storm response and safety in the trenches to policy shifts and boardroom strategies, PowerGridTalks brings every perspective to the table. It's where the voices of the people keeping the lights on meet the leaders guiding the future of energy.

Episodes
32
Releases
Every two weeks
Typical length
53 min
On air since
2025
Latest episode
1 week ago

Episodes

32 episodes, newest first

  1. Ep 32 - The Lineman Songwriter: Darren Thomas on 39 Years of Line Life

    Season 1, Episode 32

    Show notes

    39 years on the line. Now he's writing what it costs. Darren Thomas is an Oklahoma lineman who learned to write songs from his grandma and his dad, and he's turning a career's worth of storms, brotherhood, and hard lessons into music for the trade.

    On this episode, host Thomas Williamson sits down with Darren in the Oklahoma heat to talk about his start at a small rural co-op, working Katrina, and why "you sign everything you touch, from a shovel handle to a hoist handle." Darren shares the story behind his songs "Line Life," written for linemen everywhere, and "What I Gave the Whiskey," a hard look at what the trade can take from you and the phone call that showed him why it mattered. He also has advice for apprentices, explains why "slow is fast," and talks about losing friends to line work and where he hopes his music goes next.

    Presented by Tallman Equipment Company.

    (2:48) - 39 Years on the Line: How Darren Got Started (4:07) - Storm Work, Katrina & the Brotherhood (6:03) - Retirement Plans & a Return to Songwriting (8:09) - The Story Behind "Line Life" (10:27) - "You Sign Everything You Touch" (10:54) - "Line Life" (Song Excerpt) (11:55) - Lessons from the Old Foreman (13:35) - Line Work Isn't for Everybody (15:55) - A Catalog of 35 Songs & 200 Poems (17:55) - "What I Gave the Whiskey" & the Cost of the Trade (20:22) - The Phone Call That Made It Worth It (21:39) - "What I Gave the Whiskey" (Song Excerpt) (24:01) - Advice for New Linemen: Be Humble (26:09) - "Slow Is Fast" (28:33) - Losing Friends to Line Work & Staying Focused (30:46) - What's Next: Songs on the Radio (32:20) - Performing at Lineman Events? (34:22) - Where to Find Darren's Music (37:39) - Closing & Sign-Off

    For more episodes, show notes, and to connect with the show, visit https://powergridtalks.com/.

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    38 min
  2. Ep 31 - Lineman Hall of Famer Bill Bosch on Safety Culture, Training & the Future of the Trade

    Season 1, Episode 31

    Show notes

    47 years in the trade. A spot in the Lineman Hall of Fame, right alongside his father. And the man who wrote National Lineman Appreciation Day on a napkin. Bill Bosch has spent his career leaving a mark on line work, and he's not done yet.

    On this episode, host Tom Williamson sits down with Bill in Orlando to talk about growing up around the legends of AB Chance, his father's role in saving NASA's Skylab, and the moment early in his career that changed how he saw the job forever. Now VP of Safety & Training at Gridco, Bill makes the case that compliance alone only makes a company "safe on paper," and that real safety comes from a culture of training, mentoring, and coaching. They also dig into why success starts and stops with the general foreman, what the next generation of linemen really wants from leadership, whether line school grads are ready for the field, the push for lineman first responder status, and why the trade is at a crossroads.

    Presented by Tallman Equipment Company.

    (3:29) - 47 Years in the Trade, Starting at Age 10 (6:58) - His Father & the Saving Skylab Story (10:23) - Train, Mentor, Coach: What Makes a Good Lineman (14:37) - The Moment That Humbled Him (18:37) - The Scariest Day: Topping Out (22:07) - Are We Producing the Same Caliber of Journeymen? (24:30) - Compliance vs. Culture: "Safe on Paper" (27:12) - Critical Thinking & Competency-Based Training (29:30) - Workforce Attrition & Growing From Within (31:31) - Success Starts and Stops with the GF (34:53) - What the Next Generation Really Wants (37:14) - Lineman Schools: Are Grads Ready? (41:16) - Advice for Line School Graduates (43:07) - Creating National Lineman Appreciation Day (47:28) - The Push for Lineman First Responder Status (52:21) - Lineman Hall of Fame: Father & Son (58:37) - The Trade at a Crossroads: Curbing Fatalities (1:03:24) - Advice for a 20-Year-Old Apprentice (1:04:52) - Closing & Sign-Off

    For more episodes, show notes, and to connect with the show, visit https://powergridtalks.com/.

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    1 hr 6 min
  3. Ep 30 - Inside the Storm Restoration Business: Center Phase Energy's Nicole Rhodes & Dustin Toney

    Season 1, Episode 30

    Show notes

    Storm restoration is big business and it isn't always pretty. Nicole Rhodes (CEO) and Dustin Toney (Director of Storm Operations) of Center Phase Energy join PowerGridTalks fresh off a brutal storm week in Oklahoma to talk about what really happens behind the scenes of line contracting.

    Host Thomas Williamson sits down with the Center Phase Energy team for a candid look at the gap between utility and contractor culture, the ugly side of storm work: subcontractor poaching, unaccountable aggregators, and a race-to-the-bottom bidding market. Plus the debate over lineman schools vs. traditional apprenticeships, why fatality rates are creeping back up, and why the industry's real threat is the shrinking workforce. Dustin also opens up about losing his brother to line work and what it's taught him about safety leadership.

    Presented by Tallman Equipment Company.

    (1:57) - Show Intro & Host Welcome

    (2:18) - Nicole's Path: Engineer to CEO

    (5:05) - Dustin's Origin Story: Cutting Teeth on Katrina

    (9:16) - Utility vs. Contractor: The Reality Check

    (15:48) - Vetting Contractors & Storm Chaos

    (26:33) - Resource Poaching & Accountability Gaps

    (40:21) - What Separates a Top-Tier Contractor

    (44:42) - Driving All Night: Safety and Dustin's Brother

    (48:38) - Lineman Schools vs. IBEW Apprenticeship

    (53:36) - Training for Safety vs. Training for Skill

    (58:08) - The Real Economics of Line Contracting

    (1:05:54) - Bid Work: A Race to the Bottom

    (1:09:04) - Fatalities, Safety & Sleepless Nights

    (1:14:41) - Workforce Shortage: The Industry's Biggest Threat

    (1:22:23) - Rapid Fire: Nicole & Dustin

    (1:35:24) - Storm Feedback & Closing Thoughts

    For more episodes, show notes, and to connect with the show, visit https://powergridtalks.com/.

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    1 hr 41 min
  4. Ep 29 - From Nuclear Submarines to CEO: Buddy Hasten on Grid Reliability & the AI Energy Race

    Season 1, Episode 29

    Show notes

    Buddy Hasten spent 20 years running nuclear submarines for the U.S. Navy. Now he's president and CEO of Arkansas Electric Cooperative Corporation (AECC) and he's bringing submarine-grade leadership straight into the boardroom.

    On this episode, host Thomas Williamson catches up with Buddy at the Arkansas Electric Cooperatives' Statewide Directors' Conference in Hot Springs, AR for a wide-ranging conversation on leadership under pressure, why "we" beats "they" in a healthy culture, the real mechanics behind rolling blackouts, and the biggest threat to grid reliability. Buddy also breaks down the escalating energy race with China, AI and data centers, what keeps a utility CEO up at night, and why the electric cooperative model still matters.

    This episode is presented by Tallman Equipment Company.

    Chapters:

    (1:53) - Meeting Buddy Hasten in Arkansas

    (9:03) - From Rural Iowa to the Navy

    (16:38) - Submarine Pressure & the "Carbon Into Diamond" Lesson

    (23:40) - Two Kinds of Leadership: War-Fighter vs. Political

    (27:45) - The 90/10 Rule for Fast Decisions

    (35:51) - Investing in People vs. Infrastructure

    (38:41) - Military-Grade Training vs. Utility Training Gaps

    (45:36) - Where Grid Reliability Really Starts

    (47:54) - The Biggest Threat to the Grid: AI Data Center Demand

    (53:26) - How Rolling Blackouts Actually Work

    (57:05) - What Keeps a Utility CEO Up at Night

    (1:02:05) - The "We vs. They" Mindset

    (1:07:15) - The Karma Cake Story

    (1:17:40) - The Future of the Co-op Model

    (1:27:26) - Advice for a 22-Year-Old Starting Out

    (1:39:08) - The Case for a National Energy Policy

    (1:40:34) - Legacy for His Grandchildren

    For more episodes, show notes, and to connect with the show, visit https://powergridtalks.com/.

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    1 hr 44 min
  5. Ep 28 - He Almost Turned Down the Job: CEO Colby Wells on Leadership & the Grid's Future

    Season 1, Episode 28

    Show notes

    Colby Wells almost turned down the top job. Now he's CEO of South Central Arkansas Electric Cooperative and its broadband subsidiary, South Central Connect — a 20+ year journey that started as a groundman apprentice terrified of heights in Arkadelphia, Arkansas.

    On this episode, host Tom Williamson catches up with Colby at the Statewide Cooperative Directors Conference in Hot Springs, AR for a candid conversation about leadership, mentorship, and the co-op business model. They cover why line work has gotten harder, the industry's shift from training for knowledge to training for liability, the disconnect between the field and the boardroom, the challenges of expanding rural broadband, why winter demand — not AI — is straining the grid, and how to build the next generation of linemen.

    Chapters:

    (0:00) - Intro: Meeting Colby Wells in Arkansas

    (1:38) - Colby's Role & Nearly Turning Down the Job

    (5:44) - Starting as a Groundman Apprentice

    (7:01) - Overcoming a Fear of Heights

    (11:10) - Billy: The Lineman Who Shaped Him

    (16:49) - Has Line Work Gotten Harder?

    (19:21) - Training for Liability vs. Knowledge

    (25:13) - From Lineman to Manager: A Rocky Transition

    (28:41) - Unionizing and Becoming a Steward

    (38:43) - The 2009 Ice Storm & Mutual Aid

    (43:19) - Why the Co-op Model Matters

    (51:49) - The Field-to-Boardroom Disconnect

    (55:14) - Building the Broadband Subsidiary & New Competition

    (58:43) - The Future of the Grid & Energy Policy

    (1:03:15) - Surging Demand: Load Growth, Not Just AI

    (1:06:41) - Lightning Round: Tools & Trucks

    (1:09:06) - Biggest Pet Peeves in Line Work Today

    (1:13:10) - Advice for Every Apprentice

    (1:14:52) - The Hardest Days as CEO

    (1:18:06) - Best Decision He Ever Made

    (1:21:09) - What He'd Tell Every Co-op CEO

    (1:26:26) - His Hoped-For Legacy & Fixing Workforce Development

    (1:34:09) - Closing & Sign-Off

    For more episodes, show notes, and to connect with the show, visit https://powergridtalks.com/.

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    1 hr 35 min
  6. Ep 27 - Life After a Near-Fatal Accident: A Lineman and His Wife Share Their Story of Survival

    Season 1, Episode 27

    Show notes

    What happens when a routine day in the line trade turns into a life-changing accident? In this unforgettable episode of PowerGridTalks, host Thomas Williamson sits down with journeyman lineman Dominic Duchon and his wife, Naiane, to share the powerful story of a devastating workplace accident, Dominic's fight for survival, and the incredible road to recovery that followed.

    Dominic opens up about the events leading up to the incident, the injuries that nearly claimed his life, and the months of recovery that tested him physically, mentally, and emotionally. Naiane offers an equally powerful perspective, describing what it was like to receive the call no spouse ever wants to get, navigating uncertainty while Dominic was hospitalized, and helping him rebuild after the accident.

    Together, they discuss the realities of working in the electric utility industry, the importance of safety culture, family support, mental resilience, and how the brotherhood of lineworkers helped carry them through one of the darkest chapters of their lives.

    Whether you're a journeyman lineman, apprentice, utility worker, contractor, safety professional, or someone who has family in the electrical industry, this episode delivers lessons that extend far beyond the job site. It's a reminder that every safety procedure matters, every decision counts, and every lineman has people waiting for them at home.

    In this episode you'll learn:

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    Dominic's firsthand account of the accident and what happened next

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    The emotional impact on his family during his hospitalization and recovery

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    The importance of electrical safety and jobsite awareness

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    How resilience, determination, and the lineworker brotherhood helped fuel his recovery

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    Why every lineman should never take shortcuts in the field

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    Lessons for apprentices, journeymen, contractors, and utility leaders

    If you're passionate about linework, electric utilities, power restoration, transmission, distribution, utility safety, apprenticeship, storm response, and the people who keep the lights on, this is an episode you won't want to miss.

    (3:18) - Family on the Road (6:26) - Dominic's Accident (9:38) - Response and Rescue (12:42) - Waking Up Weeks Later (17:17) - Hospital Reality Check (23:36) - Pregnancy and the Seizure Scare (28:14) - A New Perspective on Work (32:02) - Returning After Injury (35:34) - Rehab Memory Gaps (38:33) - Faith and Community Support (41:11) - Birth During Rehab (44:10) - Company and Insurance Pressure (47:06) - Safety Lessons for Apprentices (49:42) - Advice for Line Wives (56:11) - Seven P's and Humility (57:43) - Mental Health

    🎧 Subscribe for more conversations with linemen, utility leaders, contractors, and the people shaping the future of the electric power industry.

    🌐 Visit https://powergridtalks.com/ for more episodes, articles, and resources from the PowerGridTalks podcast.

    1 hr 3 min
  7. Ep 26 - What the Utility Industry Is Talking About in 2026 | Voices from the OSR Conference

    Season 1, Episode 26

    Show notes

    What the Utility Industry Is Talking About in 2026 | Voices from the OSR Conference

    What are the biggest challenges, opportunities, and conversations shaping the electric utility industry today?

    In this special episode of PowerGridTalks, host Thomas Williamson travels to the 2026 OSR Conference to speak with linemen, utility leaders, contractors, manufacturers, and industry professionals from across North America. Through a series of candid conversations, you'll hear firsthand perspectives on the future of linework, storm restoration, workforce development, safety culture, leadership, emerging technology, and what it takes to build a stronger, more resilient power grid.

    Whether you're a journeyman lineman, apprentice, utility executive, contractor, or someone exploring a career in the electrical utility industry, this episode provides a unique snapshot of where the industry is headed—and the people helping shape its future.

    In this episode you'll hear discussions about:

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    Electric utility industry trends in 2026

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    Storm restoration and emergency response

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    Utility leadership and company culture

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    Recruiting and developing the next generation of linemen

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    Safety, training, and career development

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    Innovations impacting electric utilities

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    Lessons from the field and real-world experiences

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    The future of power delivery and grid reliability

    PowerGridTalks brings together the voices behind the electric grid, from bucket trucks to boardrooms, to share real stories, practical knowledge, and insights from the people who keep the lights on.

    (1:35) - Contractor Real Talk (2:33) - Safety With Humanity (3:27) - Drones In The Field (4:52) - Ego And Entitlement (5:37) - Hard Lessons Learned (6:55) - Warning Label Wisdom (11:09) - Pride And Integrity (12:54) - Leadership And Accountability (14:09) - Workforce Qualification Crisis (16:50) - People First Leadership (17:52) - Distribution vs Transmission (18:23) - Safety And Legitimacy (19:26) - Storm Software (21:14) - Passing Down Knowledge (22:05) - Wildest No Show Excuses (22:51) - Compassion And Fatalities (25:40) - Inside The OSR Conference (29:45) - Fundraising And Tough Talks (31:28) - Linemen Personalities

    🎧 Visit https://powergridtalks.com/ for more episodes, articles, and resources for utility professionals.

    If you enjoy conversations about linemen, power line work, electric utilities, transmission and distribution, storm restoration, utility leadership, apprenticeships, power grid reliability, and the future of the electrical industry, be sure to Like, Subscribe, and Share to help more utility professionals discover the show.

    #PowerGridTalks #Lineman #ElectricUtility #UtilityIndustry #StormRestoration #PowerGrid #Transmission #Distribution #UtilityLeadership #Linework #JourneymanLineman #GridReliability #UtilityCareers #ElectricalIndustry

    33 min
  8. Ep 25 - When the Call Comes: How the National Sisterhood Supports Injured & Fallen Linemen

    Season 1, Episode 25

    Show notes

    When the Call Comes: How the National Sisterhood Supports Injured & Fallen Linemen

    What happens when a lineworker is seriously injured or doesn't make it home? In this powerful episode of PowerGridTalks, host Thomas Williamson sits down with Tammy Duncan of the National Sisterhood United for Journeyman Linemen (NSUJL) to discuss the organization that stands beside lineworkers and their families during the most difficult moments of their lives.

    Tammy shares the mission behind the National Sisterhood, how the organization supports injured linemen, families of fallen lineworkers, and communities affected by tragedy, and why building a stronger culture of safety and brotherhood is essential for the future of the electric utility industry. The conversation explores the emotional realities behind storm restoration, linework, and the sacrifices made by the men and women who keep America's power grid operating.

    Whether you're a journeyman lineman, apprentice lineman, groundman, utility employee, contractor, utility executive, or someone with family in the electrical line trade, this episode offers an important perspective on leadership, service, safety, and the people who support the industry when it matters most.

    In this episode:

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    The mission of the National Sisterhood United for Journeyman Linemen

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    Supporting injured and fallen linemen's families

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    Building a stronger culture of safety in the utility industry

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    The importance of brotherhood and community in linework

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    Mental resilience and life after tragedy

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    Why every utility professional should know about NSUJL

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    Lessons for apprentices, journeymen, and utility leaders

    (1:25) - Sisterhood Origins (8:24) - Brotherhood in Action (11:13) - Fundraising and Rodeo (13:18) - Lineman Plate Program (16:28) - Tammy's Lineman Story (19:50) - Realities of the Trade (21:37) - Home Front Priorities (23:14) - NSUJL Family Impact Story (25:31) - Behind the Scenes Support (29:34) - Scholarships and Success Stories (31:33) - Christmas Giving Tree (34:18) - Safety and Community Awareness (37:07) - How to Get Involved (40:52) - Episode Wrap Up

    If you're passionate about electric utilities, power restoration, transmission, distribution, storm response, linework, utility leadership, electrical safety, or the future of the power grid, this conversation is one you won't want to miss.

    👍 Subscribe to PowerGridTalks for more conversations with the people building, maintaining, and protecting the electric grid.

    🌐 Learn more and listen to every episode at https://powergridtalks.com/

    #PowerGridTalks #Lineman #Linework #ElectricUtility #PowerGrid #UtilityLife #JourneymanLineman #ApprenticeLineman #StormRestoration #ElectricalSafety #Transmission #Distribution #PowerOutage #UtilityLeadership #Brotherhood

    41 min
  9. Ep 24 - Leadership, Reliability & the Future of the Power Grid with Mark Gabriel

    Season 1, Episode 24

    Show notes

    Leadership, Reliability & the Future of the Power Grid with Mark Gabriel | PowerGridTalks

    What does it take to lead an electric utility in an era of aging infrastructure, rising energy demand, extreme weather, and rapid grid modernization?

    In this episode of PowerGridTalks, host Thomas Williamson sits down with Mark Gabriel, President and CEO of United Power, Inc., for an in-depth conversation about utility leadership, power grid reliability, electric cooperatives, workforce development, grid resilience, and the future of the electric utility industry.

    Drawing from decades of experience leading utilities and serving the energy sector, Mark shares practical leadership lessons, discusses the challenges facing today's electric utilities, and explains how investing in people, technology, and culture is essential to delivering safe, reliable power. Whether you're a lineman, utility executive, engineer, apprentice, operations manager, or someone interested in the future of the power industry, this conversation offers valuable insight into what it takes to keep America's electric grid strong.

    In this episode, you'll learn: ⚡ How strong leadership impacts electric utility reliability ⚡ The biggest challenges facing today's power grid ⚡ Why workforce development is critical for the future of utilities ⚡ How electric cooperatives are adapting to changing energy demands ⚡ Lessons from decades of utility leadership ⚡ The importance of safety, culture, and accountability ⚡ How utilities are preparing for future grid modernization and resilience ⚡ Advice for the next generation of utility professionals and lineworkers

    (1:23) - Mark's Accidental Start (3:01) - Career Path to CEO (4:20) - Why Hyperlocal Energy (5:34) - Load Growth Reality Check (8:23) - What's Driving Demand (12:37) - 15 Year Timeline (13:52) - DSO and Portfolio Grid (17:32) - Leaving the Single Supplier (18:35) - Co-op Growth Imbalance (22:27) - Data Centers Impact (23:46) - Making Data Centers Pay (25:57) - Grid Operator Mindset (28:20) - Book Predictions (30:39) - Efficiency vs Infrastructure (31:55) - Life Outside the Office (33:31) - Message to Members

    PowerGridTalks brings together the voices shaping the electric utility industry—from journeyman linemen and apprentices to CEOs, engineers, and utility innovators. If you're passionate about electric utilities, transmission and distribution, power restoration, substations, utility operations, grid reliability, energy infrastructure, or the line trade, you'll find practical knowledge and real-world experience in every episode.

    🎙 Subscribe for more conversations with the leaders who keep the lights on.

    🌐 Learn more about the show and explore additional episodes: https://powergridtalks.com/

    If you enjoyed this episode, please Like, Subscribe, and Share to support the channel and help more utility professionals discover PowerGridTalks.

    35 min
  10. Ep 23 - The Leadership Crisis in Linework: What Every Lineman Needs to Hear

    Season 1, Episode 23

    Show notes

    Title: How to Build a Winning Line Crew Culture | Leadership Lessons from Utility Veterans

    YouTube Description:

    What separates a good line crew from a great one? In this episode of PowerGridTalks, host Thomas Williamson sits down with veteran linemen Alex Wakeland, Jake Stinnett, and Brandon Corbitt for an in-depth conversation about leadership, crew culture, mentorship, and what it really takes to build high-performing teams in the electric utility industry.

    Whether you're a journeyman lineman, apprentice, groundman, utility supervisor, contractor, or someone preparing for a career in linework, this episode is packed with practical advice from professionals who have spent years working on transmission and distribution systems across the country.

    The conversation explores how strong leadership creates safer jobsites, why investing in people matters more than ever, and how experienced linemen can help develop the next generation of the workforce. The guests also share lessons they've learned from the field, discuss the importance of accountability, communication, and trust, and explain why a crew's culture can directly impact both safety and productivity.

    A major part of this discussion focuses on Alex Wakeland's support of the JNCTN (Junction) program, including why he believes structured mentorship, professional development, and investing in future lineworkers are essential to strengthening the electric utility workforce. His perspective highlights how programs like JNCTN help prepare the next generation of utility professionals while reinforcing the values that keep crews safe and successful.

    In this episode:

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    Building a strong line crew culture

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    Leadership lessons from experienced linemen

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    Developing apprentices and groundmen

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    Safety, accountability, and communication

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    Why mentorship matters in linework

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    The future of the electric utility workforce

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    Alex Wakeland's support of the JNCTN (Junction) program

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    Advice for current and future utility professionals

    (1:11) - Meet the Crew (2:06) - Choosing Jobs and Crew Trust (4:34) - How They Got Into Linework (8:54) - Apprenticeship and Traveling (10:19) - First Day on the Job (14:47) - Mentors and Trade Culture (17:02) - Substance Abuse on the Road (19:13) - What Good Leadership Looks Like (24:05) - College vs Trade Respect (28:31) - Safety and Field Reality (33:33) - Best Parts of Linework (38:42) - Fixing Hiring Paperwork (41:09) - Worst Part Away From Home (44:42) - Apprentices and Work Life (46:34) - Company Versus Crew (54:23) - Union Solidarity Example (57:56) - Training Gaps and Crane Risk (1:02:50) - Stop Work Authority Reality (1:05:42) - Three-Man Crew Flaws (1:08:25) - Responsibility And Spine (1:12:06) - Burned On Storm Calls (1:16:29) - Storm Work Hurts Training (1:19:57) - JNCTN Fix For Storm (1:27:39) - Paperwork And Privacy Wins (1:34:06) - Transparency Pushback (1:41:15) - How To Find JNCTN

    If you're passionate about linework, electric utilities, power restoration, transmission, distribution, utility leadership, apprentice linemen, or the future of the power grid, this episode delivers valuable insight from professionals who live it every day.

    Subscribe for more conversations with the people who build, maintain, and protect the electrical grid.

    🌐 Learn more about the show: https://powergridtalks.com/

    #PowerGridTalks #Lineman #ElectricUtility #UtilityLeadership #PowerGrid #Transmission #Distribution #Linework #UtilityJobs #ApprenticeLineman

    1 hr 43 min
  11. Ep 22 - First Step to Becoming a Lineman: CDL Process Explained

    Season 1, Episode 22

    Show notes

    If you're serious about becoming a lineman, your Commercial Driver's License (CDL) is one of the most important first steps you can take. In this episode of PowerGridTalks, host Thomas Williamson sits down with Harry Packwood of Idaho CDL Training to break down the CDL process, explain why it's essential for a successful linework career, and share practical advice for anyone looking to enter the electric utility industry.

    Whether you're exploring a career as an apprentice lineman, preparing for line school, or looking to understand what utility companies expect from new hires, this conversation delivers real-world insight from someone who has helped countless people begin their journey in the trade.

    In this episode, you'll learn: ⚡ Why a CDL is critical for aspiring linemen ⚡ How to prepare for the CDL testing process ⚡ Common mistakes that hold applicants back ⚡ Tips for getting hired by utility contractors and power companies ⚡ What employers look for beyond technical skills ⚡ Career advice for anyone entering the electric utility industry

    PowerGridTalks brings you conversations with the leaders, linemen, contractors, and innovators who keep the power grid running. If you're passionate about linework, electrical infrastructure, storm restoration, utility careers, or workforce development, this podcast is for you.

    (0:34) - Why CDL Feels Intimidating (3:10) - Harry's CDL Journey (5:39) - Why Utilities Require CDL (8:14) - Common CDL Mistakes (12:09) - Restrictions and Unrestricted CDL (15:39) - Test Tips (18:16) - Permit Test Misconceptions (19:52) - Study Over Memorize (22:16) - Pass Rates And Retests (24:54) - Physicals And Drug Rules (26:50) - How Long It Takes (28:15) - Permits And Support (31:28) - Future Safety And Vetting (37:23) - CDL For Linemen (39:08) - Find The Program

    🌐 Learn more and listen to every episode at https://powergridtalks.com

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    41 min
  12. Ep 21 - Millions Watch His Videos; Here's What Austin Carr Wants Every Lineman to Know

    Season 1, Episode 21

    Show notes

    What does it really take to build a successful career in the electric utility industry? In this episode of PowerGridTalks, host Thomas Williamson sits down with Austin Carr for an in-depth conversation about life in the line trade, the realities of working in the power industry, and the skills required to succeed in one of the most demanding careers in America.

    From storm restoration and emergency response to safety culture, leadership, training, and workforce development, Austin shares firsthand insights into the challenges and rewards of being a lineman in today's rapidly evolving utility sector. Whether you're a journeyman lineman, apprentice, utility professional, contractor, line school student, or someone considering a career in the skilled trades, this episode delivers valuable lessons from the field.

    You'll learn about:

    ⚡ The realities of working as a lineman ⚡ Electric utility industry career paths ⚡ Storm restoration and outage response ⚡ Safety practices that save lives ⚡ Leadership and teamwork in linework ⚡ Workforce development and recruiting the next generation ⚡ Lessons learned from years in the field ⚡ The future of the power grid and utility workforce

    (0:27) - Meet Austin Carr (3:19) - America's Favorite Lineman (5:17) - First Tower Climb Reality (9:35) - Overtime Life in Florida (13:51) - First Viral Tie Wire Video (15:08) - Why He Started Teaching Online (19:00) - Industry Ego and Stigma (21:57) - Best Parts of Linework (26:02) - Advice for Apprentices (30:50) - Quick Fire Opinions (34:01) - Future Plans and Training (36:17) - Where to Follow and Final Thanks

    PowerGridTalks brings you real conversations from the people who keep the lights on—from the bucket trucks to the boardrooms. If you're passionate about electric utilities, transmission and distribution, power restoration, linework, energy infrastructure, and grid reliability, this episode is for you.

    🌐 Visit the PowerGridTalks website: https://powergridtalks.com

    🎙️ Subscribe for more conversations with utility leaders, linemen, contractors, engineers, and industry experts who keep America's electric grid strong.

    38 min
  13. Ep 20 - Inside PowerOutage.us: The Data Behind Major Storm Restorations

    Season 1, Episode 20

    Show notes

    What really happens behind the scenes during a major power outage? In this episode of PowerGridTalks, host Thomas Williamson sits down with Matt Hope of PowerOutage.us to break down how real-time outage data is collected, tracked, and used during some of the biggest storm restorations across the United States.

    From hurricanes and ice storms to everyday grid disruptions, Matt explains how utilities, emergency managers, linemen, and the public rely on accurate outage reporting to understand what's happening on the electric grid. The conversation dives into storm restoration logistics, utility communication, outage mapping technology, grid reliability, and the growing role of data in the future of the power industry.

    If you work in electric utilities, linework, storm response, grid operations, or emergency management, this episode delivers valuable insight into the systems helping keep America informed when the lights go out.

    In this episode: ⚡ How PowerOutage.us tracks outages nationwide ⚡ The role of data during storm restoration ⚡ Challenges utilities face during major weather events ⚡ How linemen and crews benefit from outage visibility ⚡ The future of grid monitoring and outage reporting ⚡ Why accurate outage information matters to the public

    Whether you're a journeyman lineman, utility professional, apprentice, contractor, or someone interested in power infrastructure, this episode offers a rare behind-the-scenes look at the technology driving modern outage awareness.

    (2:10) - Origins and Acquisition Story (6:12) - SEO and Media Momentum (7:38) - Traffic Spikes and Scaling (9:32) - Where Outage Data Comes From (13:05) - Data Challenges and Utility Coordination (16:49) - Biggest Events and Historical Archive (19:12) - User Feedback (27:33) - Public Friction and Outage Tool (32:07) - Sponsored Utility Access (34:04) - Future Vision and Security (36:00) - Industry Communication Needs (38:22) - Final Thoughts and Sign Off

    Listen to more episodes and connect with the show at: https://powergridtalks.com/

    #PowerGridTalks #PowerOutageUS #Lineman #ElectricUtility #StormRestoration #PowerGrid #Utilities #GridReliability #OutageMap #UtilityIndustry #Linework #ElectricGrid #Infrastructure #Transmission #Distribution #UtilityLife

    40 min
  14. Ep 19 - Leading From The Line: Johnny Priest on Leadership in the Utility Industry

    Season 1, Episode 19

    Show notes

    What does real leadership look like in the electric utility industry? In this episode of PowerGridTalks, host Thomas Williamson sits down with veteran lineman Johnny Priest for an in-depth conversation about leadership, crew culture, accountability, safety, and what it takes to earn respect in the line trade.

    What does real leadership look like in the electric utility industry? In this episode of PowerGridTalks, host Thomas Williamson sits down with veteran lineman Johnny Priest for an in-depth conversation about leadership, crew culture, accountability, safety, and what it takes to earn respect in the line trade. Johnny is a 58 year veteran in the industry and started his career on the hooks back in 1967 with Duke Power. He's held many executive level positions with companies across the USA as well as spending time working with key companies in Australia, New Zealand, Puerto Rico and served with the 101st Airborne in Vietnam.

    Johnny says he has never had a bad day since leaving the jungles in Vietnam and has worked to mentor and develop many employees in the industry to achieve their goals and their own level of success!

    From storm restoration and high-pressure job sites to mentoring apprentices and building stronger utility crews, Johnny shares hard-earned lessons from years in the field. Whether you're a journeyman lineman, apprentice, groundman, utility contractor, or someone considering a career in linework, this episode delivers real-world insight into the mindset and leadership required to succeed in the electrical utility industry.

    You'll hear discussions about: ⚡ Leadership in linework and utility operations ⚡ Building trust and accountability on crews ⚡ Safety culture in the electric utility industry ⚡ Mentorship and developing young linemen ⚡ Storm work, teamwork, and field decision-making ⚡ Utility career growth and personal development ⚡ The realities of life in the powerline trade

    (1:23) - Early Days at Duke (3:42) - Old School Linework (6:41) - Wages Then and Now (11:13) - Moving Into Management (13:54) - Building a New Business (17:55) - Storm Work and Big Bets (23:22) - Leadership Mindset Shift (29:30) - See You At The Top (32:19) - Safety Rules in Blood (39:11) - Combat Leadership Lessons (42:59) - Career Moves And Vision (48:19) - Cancer Fight And Perspective (51:57) - Global Work And Australia Safety (55:40) - Hard Hats And Fall Protection (1:00:55) - Leading With Care (1:05:27) - Respect The Field Crew (1:08:03) - Legacy And Final Thanks

    PowerGridTalks brings you real conversations from the people who keep the grid strong — from bucket trucks to boardrooms. If you work in electric utilities, power distribution, transmission, substations, or overhead line construction, this episode is packed with valuable insight from someone who has lived it.

    🎧 Subscribe for more conversations with linemen, utility leaders, contractors, apprentices, and industry professionals.

    🌐 Visit: https://powergridtalks.com

    1 hr 14 min
  15. Ep 18 - From Lineman to Owner: How Jimmy Kent Built ATK Energy Group & Victory Power Line Services

    Season 1, Episode 18

    Show notes

    In this episode of PowerGridTalks, host Thomas Williamson sits down with Jimmy Kent, the founder of ATK Energy Group and Victory Power Line Services. Jimmy shares his journey from working on the lines to building a powerhouse in utility logistics and emergency restoration.

    As the power industry faces increasingly complex challenges—from massive ice storms to aging infrastructure—the need for rapid, organized response has never been higher. Jimmy explains how his companies serve as the "Plan B" for utilities, providing a white-glove service that manages everything from damage assessment and vegetation management to full-scale man camps and equipment staging.

    In this episode, we discuss:

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    The Bridge to Restoration: How logistics firms connect utility companies with specialized resources that traditional mutual aid rosters often miss.

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    Rapid Mobilization: The mechanics of staging thousands of men and pieces of equipment in a fraction of the usual time.

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    Comprehensive Logistics: A look into the "all-in-one" support system, including debris removal, damage assessment, and turn-key workforce housing.

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    The Evolution of the Grid: Why modern storm response requires a shift from reactive to proactive planning.

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    Entrepreneurship in the Trades: Jimmy's personal insights on transitioning from a journeyman lineman to a business owner driving industry change.

    Whether you are a utility executive looking for better disaster strategies or a lineman interested in the logistics side of the trade, this episode offers a deep dive into the massive operations that happen behind the scenes of every major outage.

    (2:51) - Safety Parallels Outdoors (4:18) - 1990 Shock Incident (9:50) - Aftermath and Recovery (13:29) - Returning to Work (15:39) - Turning Pain into Safety (23:16) - Not One More Movement (29:02) - Building Safety Culture (31:57) - Safety Manuals Wakeup Call (35:44) - Director In The Field (39:58) - Managing Storm Fatigue (43:49) - Young Foremen Real Risks (48:52) - Not One More In Action (52:24) - The Wrap Mix-up Explained (54:26) - Join The Movement (56:42) - Lead From Top And Bottom (1:00:05) - Final Advice And Signoff

    Subscribe to PowerGridTalks for more expert conversations from the heart of the electrical utility industry.

    Official Website: https://powergridtalks.com

    #PowerGridTalks #LinemanLife #UtilityLogistics #StormRestoration #TKEnergyGroup #VictoryPowerLineServices #GridReliability #EmergencyResponse #ElectricalIndustry #BlueCollarEntrepreneur

    1 hr 3 min
  16. Ep 17 - 17 Days in the Dark: A Lineman's Perspective on the 2026 Ice Storm

    Season 1, Episode 17

    Show notes

    What happens when a veteran journeyman lineman, used to restoring power across the country, finds himself sitting in the dark for 17 days? In this episode of PowerGridTalks, host Thomas Williamson sits down with Brian Kannada, a lineman with over 25 years of experience, to discuss the devastating 2026 ice storm that paralyzed North Mississippi.

    Brian provides a rare, dual perspective—seeing the crisis both as a frustrated customer in "survival mode" and as an industry expert who knows exactly what it takes to get the lights back on. We dive deep into the systemic flaws exposed by this event, from manpower shortages and aging infrastructure to the differences between modern storm response and the historic freeze of 1994.

    In this episode, we discuss:

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    The Manpower Gap: Why were there only three crews working 30-mile circuits when hundreds were needed?

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    Proactive vs. Reactive Logistics: The failure to utilize available brokers and staging resources despite a 10-day weather warning.

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    Infrastructure Reality: How an inch of ice turns old poles into a "domino effect" of system failure.

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    The Call for Transparency: Why utility cooperatives need better communication, social media engagement, and public accountability.

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    Lessons for the Future: How the industry can bridge the gap between "daylight and dark" to ensure this never happens again.

    Whether you are in the electric utility industry, a lineman, or a customer who has felt the impact of a grid failure, this conversation is a must-listen. It's time to move past "decent" and start planning for the next big one.

    (0:56) - Home During the Storm

    (4:33) - Lineman Career Background

    (7:14) -1994 vs Today

    (11:23) - Mutual Aid Limits

    (18:47) - Old Poles and Ice Load

    (23:38) - Hurricane Michael Lessons

    (30:40) - Demanding Transparency

    (38:01) - Regional Coordination Plans

    (40:05) - Why Ice Storms Are Brutal

    🔗 Learn more and listen to more episodes: https://powergridtalks.com

    Subscribe for more insights into the electric utilities and linemen industry.

    #PowerGridTalks #LinemanLife #UtilityRestoration #GridReliability #2026IceStorm #Lineman #PowerOutage #StormResponse #ElectricalGrid #Infrastructure

    42 min
  17. Ep 16 - No Filter Linework: Kevin Robinson on Linemen BS, Culture & the Trade

    Season 1, Episode 16

    Show notes

    Get an inside look at the real culture of linework in this episode of PowerGridTalks with host Thomas Williamson and special guest Kevin Robinson, founder of Linemen Bullshit. This conversation dives deep into the life of a lineman, from the jobsite to the online community, covering the grit, humor, brotherhood, and realities of working in the electrical utility industry.

    Kevin shares how Linemen Bullshit became one of the most recognizable platforms in the trade, giving voice to linemen across the country. Together, we talk about what it really takes to succeed in linework, the importance of safety, lessons learned in the field, and how social media is shaping the next generation of linemen.

    Whether you're a current lineman, apprentice, groundman, or someone considering line school, this episode delivers real-world insight into the electric utility industry, power line work, and the mindset required to thrive in this demanding career.

    ⚡ In this episode, you'll learn:

    • The truth about life as a lineman
    • How Linemen Bullshit built a massive following
    • The importance of safety and accountability in the trade
    • What new linemen need to know before entering the industry
    • The brotherhood and culture behind keeping the power on

    If you're serious about becoming a lineman or advancing your career in the utility industry, this is an episode you don't want to miss.

    (2:06) - Kevin's Trade Origins

    (8:03) - Birth of Lineman Bullshit

    (18:10) - Leadership Everyone's Watching

    (24:06) - Safety Theater and Liability

    (30:17) - Job Briefings

    (33:23) - Near Miss Reporting Culture

    (38:46) - Production vs Safety Reality

    (44:48) - Presence Over Position

    (56:57) - Truthful Incident Learning

    (1:00:32) - Why Safety Gets Weaponized

    (1:06:06) - Training Leaders and Egos

    (1:10:40) - Advice for Apprentices

    🔗 Learn more and listen to more episodes: https://powergridtalks.com

    👍 Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more conversations from the field to the boardroom with the people who keep the power flowing.

    #lineman #linework #powergrid #electricutility #trades #bluecollar #apprenticeship #lineschool #powerlineman #utilities

    1 hr 20 min
  18. Ep 15 - Life on the Line: Hollywood, Heart, and the Heritage of Linework

    Season 1, Episode 15

    Show notes

    What does it take to bring the reality of the trade to the big screen? In this episode of PowerGrid alks, host Thomas Williamson sits down with Chad Dubea, an industry veteran whose career spans decades, from his early days with Red Simpson to building multiple successful line companies and helping develop the Hollywood film 'Life on the Line' starring John Travolta.

    Chad isn't just a businessman; he is the founder of the Fallen Linemen Organization, a non-profit dedicated to honoring the men and women who have made the ultimate sacrifice and supporting the families they left behind. We go behind the scenes to explore the raw pressures of owning a contractor company, the changing culture of the trade, and why safety must be rooted in brotherhood rather than just a rulebook.

    In this episode, we discuss:

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    The Hollywood Journey: Behind the scenes of 'Life on the Line' and the mission to show the world what the trade really takes.

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    The Fallen Linemen Organization: The inspiration behind the non-profit and how the industry can better support its own.

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    Industry Evolution: From the "wild west" days of Red Simpson to modern contractor culture.

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    Leadership & Trust: Why the foundation of every successful crew is built on character and looking out for the person next to you.

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    The Mental Toll: Discussing the real pressures of the job and the responsibility that comes with the trade.

    Whether you're a journeyman with 30 years in the trade, an apprentice just starting your journey, or an industry executive, this conversation is a tribute to the people who keep the lights on.

    (1:42) - Roots With Red Simpson

    (4:10) - Mentors And Lessons

    (9:08) - Safety Versus Production

    (13:45) - Starting T&D

    (18:27) - Culture And Caring

    (24:44) - Making A Lineman Movie

    (29:35) - Travolta And Public Impact

    (32:06) - Ice Storm Tragedy

    (37:11) - Memorial Vision Begins

    (38:49) - High Voltage Rose Story

    (42:56) - Safety And Gut Checks

    (46:57) - Future Of The Trade

    (50:07) - Culture, Mental Health, Drugs

    (53:32) - Rapid Fire Round

    (1:01:21) - Legacy Unity And Farewell

    Support the Cause: Learn more about the Fallen Linemen Organization and how you can help at: https://fallenlinemen.org

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    Website: https://powergridtalks.com

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    1 hr 6 min
  19. Ep 14 - The Greatest Story Never Told: Inside the International Lineman's Museum | PowerGridTalks Podcast

    Season 1, Episode 14

    Show notes

    In this episode of PowerGridTalks, host Thomas Williamson travels to Leesburg, Florida, to sit down with Andy Price. As the founder of the International Lineman's Museum and the Lineman Hall of Fame, Andy has dedicated his life to preserving what he calls "the greatest story never told". The electric utility industry was built on the grit and innovation of early pioneers who often had to forge their own tools just to get the job done. We go behind the scenes to explore rare artifacts, including the original patent for curved hand rubber gloves and unique "Coke bottle" glass insulators used during wartime. In this episode, we discuss:

    • The History of Linework: How the trade evolved from the late 1800s to the modern power grid.
    • The Lineman Hall of Fame: The emotional stories behind inducting industry icons and the criteria for being recognized.
    • Safety Evolution: A look at the transition from "cowboy mentality" to the life-saving fall restraint devices and battery-powered tools used today.
    • The Fallen Lineman Organization: How the new Florida location honors those who made the ultimate sacrifice on the line.
    • The Future of the Museum: Andy's vision for the 18,500-square-foot expansion at Lineman Ranch and how the community can get involved.

    Whether you are a journeyman lineman, an apprentice just starting at line school, or a utility executive, this episode is a deep dive into the heritage that keeps the power flowing.

    (1:27) - How the Museum Began

    (4:47) - Moving to Florida Vision

    (9:49) - Must See Artifacts

    (15:32) - Hall of Fame Origins

    (21:39) - Induction Process

    (24:10) - Spotting Future Legends

    (26:28) - Honoring Fallen Linemen

    (33:11) - Support The Museum

    Visit the Museum:

    Learn more about the International Lineman's Museum and nominate someone for the Hall of Fame at: https://linemanmuseum.org.

    Connect with PowerGridTalks:

    Website: https://powergridtalks.com

    Follow us for more stories from the bucket trucks to the boardrooms!

    #Lineman #PowerGrid #UtilityWork #LinemanLife #ApprenticeLineman #ElectricalGrid #History #InternationalLinemanMuseum #PowerGridTalks #ThomasWilliamson #LinemanHallOfFame

    41 min
  20. Ep 13 - From Day One to Graduation: Future Linemen Talk Training, Fear, and Growth

    Season 1, Episode 13

    Show notes

    What is line school really like—and what does it take to make it to the other side?

    In this episode of PowerGridTalks, host Thomas Williamson sits down with NALTC students for an honest, boots-on-the-ground conversation about the realities of line school. From the physical grind and mental pressure to the growth, pride, and brotherhood that form along the way, these future linemen share what the journey truly demands.

    This episode pulls back the curtain on the transformation that happens between day one and graduation, and why line school is about far more than climbing poles. It's about discipline, accountability, safety mindset, teamwork, and preparing for a career where decisions matter and consequences are real.

    ⚡ In this episode, you'll hear about:

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    What surprised students most about line school

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    The mental and physical challenges of training

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    How safety culture is built early

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    Brotherhood, teamwork, and earning respect

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    Lessons learned before stepping onto a real job site

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    What future apprentices should know before enrolling

    Whether you're considering line school, currently enrolled, or already working in the trade, this episode offers real insight into how linemen are built—not just trained.

    (01:08) - Meet the Students

    (08:26)- First Impressions and Challenges

    (10:06) - Training and Real-World Experience

    (14:15) - Overcoming Fears and Building Trust

    (19:19) - Favorite Parts and Key Lessons

    (22:39) - Impactful Instructors and Lessons Learned

    (27:36) - Preparing for Graduation and Job Placement

    (32:17) - Advice for Future Students

    (34:04) - Reflecting on the Journey and Future Challenges

    🎧 PowerGridTalks shares real conversations from the classroom, the yard, and the job site—spotlighting the people shaping the future of the electrical industry.

    👉 Listen to the full episode & explore more: https://powergridtalks.com 👉 Subscribe for more stories from the line trade 👍 Like, comment, and share to support future linemen 🔔 Turn on notifications so you don't miss upcoming episodes

    46 min