Podcast

Saints and Cinema

Arts, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Visual Arts

A monthly film and theology podcast hosted by the Winterstein brothers.

Episodes
97
Releases
Monthly
Typical length
1 hr 3 min
On air since
2019
Latest episode
3 weeks ago

Episodes

97 episodes, newest first

  1. Episode 97 - WHITE ROOM and the 2026 Newport Beach Film Festival with JT Rees

    Episode 97

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    Jay and Tim chat with JT Rees, writer and director of the short film White Room about making fiction out of personal experience, grief, and making his first film.

    Then we talk about the 2026 Newport Beach Film Festival (October 15-22) and the films we're looking forward to seeing.

    White Room is playing twice at the festival, in the short film block "The Short List" (get tickets) and then by itself (get tickets).

    NEGU - Jessie Rees Foundation

    Jessie's Story (short video)

    Some of the films we mention in this episode: Retirement Plan (the short film Tim couldn't remember); The Cycle, The Only Living Pickpocket in New York, Minotaur, Wild Horse Nine, Mimic (short), White Room (short), Something Wild (short), Ithaqua, Unleashed Spirits: The Rise of the Hollywood Vampires, Joybubbles, One of Us, 4000 Days, A Talent For Murder, Behemoth!, Paper Tiger, Fatherland, Die Ältern/Empty Nesters, The Liberation, Summer Project (short), 99 Fantasmas/99 Ghosts (short), Manchester by the Sea, Alps, The Lobster, Monty Python and the Holy Grail

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    1 hr 19 min
  2. Episode 96 - LARS AND THE REAL GIRL with Scott Stiegemeyer

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    Tim and Jay dig into Lars and the Real Girl with Rev. Dr. Scott Stiegemeyer. Join us as we talk about what this cinematic parable can teach us about life, community, and grace.

    Find Scott at Flesh and Blood Bioethics.

    Scott's piece on Lars and the Real Girl.

    We've also talked with Scott about FRANKENSTEIN, AFTER YANG, THE AMUSEMENT PARK, and horror movies.

    Some of the films we mention in this episode: Lars and the Real Girl, Her, Obsession.

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    1 hr 3 min
  3. Episode 95 - Way Back with THE BEASTMASTER (1982) and THE RESCUE (1988)

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    Jay and Tim have a not-very-serious discussion of The Beastmaster (1982) and The Rescue (1988) and other movies from their childhood and whether or not they hold up 40 years later.

    Some of the films we mention in this episode: The Beastmaster, The Rescue, The NeverEnding Story (1984), The Last Unicorn (1982), Flight of the Navigator (1986), Masters of the Universe (1987)

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    53 min
  4. Episode 94 - THE ODYSSEY

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    Tim and Jay discourse on the discourse and how we should think about the difference between books and movies, ancient and modern. We talk about what we liked about The Odyssey and what we didn't, and where it might fall on our top movies of 2026. We also ask, Why do we connect with some stories and not with others? What is worth discussing and what are worthless proxies for cultural wars?

    Some of the movies (and a show) we mention in this episode: The Odyssey, Tenet, The Dark Knight, Spiderman: Brand New Day, Inception, Oppenheimer, Interstellar, The Drama, Obsession, Together, Something Very Bad Is Going to Happen.

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    1 hr 10 min
  5. Episode 93 - TOGETHER and OBSESSION

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    Tim and Jay talk about relationship horror movies Together and Obsession. What does it mean to be "one flesh"? What does it mean to love another person? What kinds of truth can horror expose? (Also, just give Inde Navarrette all the awards.) Warning: spoilers for both films.

    Some of the films we mention in this episode: Together, Obsession, Hereditary.

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    1 hr 1 min
  6. Episode 92 - ERIC LARUE with Brett Neveu

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    Tim and Jay had the opportunity to talk with Brett Neveu, playwright, professor, and screenwriter of (the play and) film Eric LaRue, directed by Michael Shannon. We talk about the differences between writing for the stage and writing for the screen; the absurdity of grief, pastors trying to help, and good intentions. Along the way, Brett gives us great insight into crafting a compelling story.

    You can watch Eric LaRue at Kanopy through your local library.

    Find more information about Brett here.

    Red Orchid Theatre.

    Some of the films we discuss in this episode: Eric LaRue and Mass.

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    1 hr 5 min
  7. Episode 91 - Best of 2025

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    We finally get around to talking about our favorites of last year. Did we mention yours? Do you have a favorite we didn't mention? Let us know!

    Some of the films we mention in this episode: Sentimental Value, Sinners, Frankenstein, Never Get Busted, Train Dreams, Weapons, and a lot of other films that came out in 2025...

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    59 min
  8. Episode 90! - Robert Duvall and THE APOSTLE

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    Tim and Jay take up our top Duvall films and then discuss The Apostle, depictions of preachers, what makes a character sympathetic, and the nature of redemption.

    Some of the films we mention in this episode: The Apostle, Apocalypse Now, The Godfather, Part I, The Godfather, Part II, Tender Mercies, Calvary, On the Waterfront, Romero, Diary of a Country Priest, Corpus Christi.

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    56 min
  9. Episode 89 - WAKE UP DEAD MAN with Rev. Dr. Ryan Tinetti

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    Tim and Jay talk to Ryan Tinetti, professor at Concordia Seminary in St. Louis, about the newest Knives Out mystery, Wake Up Dead Man. Religion in movies, Christianity, pastors, and culture war in the church and in the world. Check it out!

    Also, Ryan has a new book out (which we should have mentioned!), Quiet Ambition, which you can find here.

    Some of the films we mention in this episode: Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery, Silence, Godfather Part III, Calvary, Stars in My Crown

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    58 min
  10. Episode 88 - Christmas with THE CHOSEN

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    Tim and Jay watch Christmas with The Chosen - Holy Night and continue the discussion from episode 85 on what works well and what doesn't work as well, along with what comes from the Gospels and what does not. Choices were made.

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    35 min
  11. Episode 87 - FRANKENSTEIN with Rev. Dr. Scott Stiegemeyer

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    Tim and Jay talk about Frankenstein, being human, technology, death and life with professor, pastor, and bioethicist, Scott Stiegemeyer, as well as a few horror films from Newport Beach Film Festival. Scott teaches at Concordia University in Irvine, California.

    Some of the films we mention in this episode: Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio, Loud, Pontypool, Men, The Bride!

    Our other episodes with Scott:

    Episode 43, on After Yang.

    Episode 33, on The Amusement Park.

    Episode 5, on horror movies.

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    1 hr 2 min
  12. Episode 86 - NBFF Preview with Olivia Blue and Decker Sadowski of THEATER IS DEAD

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    Jay and Tim talk to the writers/producers/actors of Theater Is Dead, Decker Sadowski and Olivia Blue. Their film premiered at Fantastic Fest, and is coming to Newport Beach Film Festival in less than a month. We talk about the filmmaking process, how it works to write, produce, and act in a film, and Washington State. Then we look at a few of the films coming to NBFF October 16-23. Join us!

    Tickets to Theater Is Dead

    Some of the films we mention in this episode: Theater Is Dead, Tow, Sirât, The Pantone Guy, Never Get Busted, Bad Haircut, Omaha, American Clown, Still Life, The Floaters, The Mastermind, Frankenstein, The Ride, Something in the Night, The Littles, Magdalena, Te Amo, (music videos:) 909, Make It Until You Make It, Second Skin, and Shadow

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    1 hr
  13. Episode 85! Season 5 of THE CHOSEN

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    Tim and Jay talk about what they like and don't like about Season 5 of The Chosen. Interpretation, the Bible, Jesus, religious art--and the band Whiteheart.

    (Stay to the end for a long outtake where Tim takes the episode completely off the rails.)

    We pretty much stick to The Chosen in this episode.

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    1 hr 1 min
  14. Episode 84 - Halfway Through 2025

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    Tim and Jay talk a little about what might end up on their best-of-2025 lists at the halfway point, and what they still want to see. What's on your list?

    Some of the films we mention in this episode: Life of Chuck, Nobody 2, Eddington, Together, No Other Choice, One Battle After Another, Caught Stealing, Black Phone 2, Materialists, Omaha, Werwulf (2026), Frankenstein, Sketch, A Big Bold Beautiful Journey, Weapons, Keeper, Bugonia, The Rivals of Amziah King, Twinless, Honey Don't!, The Way of the Wind

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    37 min
  15. Episode 83 - Fathers, Sons, and Meat Puppets in 28 YEARS LATER

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    Tim and Jay talk zombies, the 28 franchise, and the father-son/generational inheritance theme that runs through 28 Years Later. Thanks for listening! (Or watching!)

    Some films we mention in this episode: 28 Years Later, 28 Days Later, 28 Weeks Later, Train to Busan, Night of the Living Dead, Sinners.

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    57 min
  16. Episode 82 - An Animated Faith

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    Jay and Tim talk about a few animated movies that seem to offer resonance with the Bible or Christianity. What are some Christian themes? What makes a theme Christian? How would someone outside the Christian faith interpret the themes in these movies? We talk about that, and more. Thanks for listening!

    Some films we mention in this episode: Croods: A New Age, The Iron Giant, The Wild Robot, Prince of Egypt.

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    1 hr 3 min
  17. Episode 81 - SINNERS with Pr. Jason Swan

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    Tim and Jay talk to Pastor Jason Swan about the film Sinners and all the theological resonance we can muster: vampires, music, liturgy, worship, vocation, and how Christians should watch movies.

    Some films/shows we mention in this episode: Midnight Mass, Nosferatu, Sinners.

    We're on YouTube! Not sure why you would want to look at us for an hour or so, but if you do, you can find us here.

    We've got a couple other changes coming, so keep an eye out for those. As always, thanks for listening/watching. We appreciate you.

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    1 hr 13 min
  18. Episode 80! Explain Yourself - A New Literalism?

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    In our 80th episode, Tim and Jay talk about how much film viewers want or need to know; what makes some people love a film, and others hate it; and, is over-explaining really new? Do you like having a movie explain itself, or would you rather put things together yourself?

    "The New Literalism" article at The New Yorker

    We talked about some movies.

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    1 hr 20 min
  19. Episode 79 - What the Oscars Got Right and What They Got Wrong

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    Jay and Tim talk about what the Academy Awards got right and what they got wrong. We talk about Hollywood, agendas, propaganda, and Oscar surprises.

    Some of the movies we mention in this episode are: Oscar nominees.

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
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    1 hr 7 min
  20. Episode 78 - What We Loved and Didn't in 2024

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    Jay and Tim get into the films they saw from 2024, their favorites, and their less-than-favorites.

    Some of the films we mention in this episode: The Brutalist, Gladiator II, Challengers, The Substance, Joker: Folie á Deux, Civil War, Trap, Hard Truths, Smile 2, Heretic, A Complete Unknown, Conclave, Hundreds of Beavers, Monkey Man, Dune II, Long Legs, Didi, A Different Man, Nosferatu, The Wild Robot, Inside the Yellow Cocoon Shell

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    Opening music: "Let's Start at the Beginning," Lee Rosevere
    Closing music: "Découvre moi," Marc Senet & Simon Grivot

    1 hr 45 min