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Split Zone Duo: College Football Podcast
An independent college football podcast that covers the whole sport, led by Richard Johnson and Alex Kirshner. Free episodes each week (twice per week in season), plus frequent subscriber episodes. Featuring co-host emeritus Steven Godfrey and friends.
- Football chart
- #150
- Episodes
- 665
- Releases
- Twice a week
- Typical length
- 45 min
- On air since
- 2020
- Latest episode
- 2 days ago
Episodes
665 episodes, newest first
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15 min
“The Job”: An FSU Emergency Episode Breaks Out
Show notes
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit https://www.splitzoneduo.com
Florida State is open. Richard and Alex give the whole job market an overview but focus most of this episode on the Noles, who are still (for most people) the best available gig on the market. In this episode:
3:01: Richard walks Alex through the backroom and infrastructural changes FSU has already made (and the ones fans still want)
12:50: Where exactly did Mike Norvell’s tenure go wrong?
22:59: Where will this job sit in the pecking order of available gigs?
25:24: Names who might make sense in Tallahassee
30:29: NC State’s apparent pursuit of Philip Rivers and what we see in it, plus a bit more on on Baylor and Sam Houston
Producer: Anthony Vito
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48 min
Week 9 CFB Hurry-Up: Is Ohio State Doing This?
Show notes
Richard and Alex take you through Week 9, telling you about dozens of interesting games in 30ish minutes. Including but not limited to:
USC 30, Ohio State 18
Indiana 23, Minnesota 16
Washington 17, Nebraska 10
South Carolina 42, Oklahoma 25
BYU 27, Arizona State 20
Texas Tech 34, Arizona 26
Iowa State 51, Oklahoma State 49
Miami 38, North Carolina 35
Clemson 36, Florida State 24
Troy 24, James Madison 21
Johns Hopkins wins on a FAIR-CATCH KICK
Producer: Anthony Vito
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20 min
Team of the Week: Is This New Mexico’s Moment? Eck Yeah, Brother
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The New Mexico Lobos have a long and mostly bleak football history. A former coach one said you could fit the fanbase in a few rows of bleachers. The list of UNM players the casual college football fan remembers watching is zero player long. But right now, under coach Jason Eck, UNM is one of the most exciting turnaround stories in the country and has a real chance to make the playoff. The Lobos are doing something no one else is doing, and Rodger Sherman joins Alex Kirshner to talk about it on this SUBSCRIBER SPECIAL:
0:16: New Mexico’s moment
9:51: The Jason Eck story
19:26: Remember a Lobo (Brian Urlacher edition)
25:20: Why winning at New Mexico is ultra-difficult
36:48: The defense and the turnovers
42:50: What happens after Eck?
Producer: Anthony Vito
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1 hr 13 min
Week 9: Trick or Treat Menu
Show notes
Alex and Richard break down the Week 9 of the college football season, including Lincoln Riley’s uphill climb against Ohio State, and the Cody Campbell rants that should have Texas Tech fans concerned.
Florida Atlantic University at North Texas (00:02:37) Baylor at UCF (00:06:08) Arizona at Texas Tech (00:09:50) Notre Dame at Navy (00:19:32)Wisconsin at Iowa (00:24:06) Florida at Georgia (00:31:22)Miami at North Carolina (00:52:40)Ohio State at USC (01:00:28)
Those are just a handful out of the dozens of games we cover this week. Produced by Anthony Vito.
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21 min
Is Roster Budget an Excuse?
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Cohost emeritus Steven Godfrey joins Richard and Alex on this episode for a discussion what the player pay market has done to coach expectations.
5:07: The price of the brick (or of Jesse Legree or Kamario Taylor) goes up: What does a mid- or low-budget program do when a superstar emerges?
13:47: How much longer can coaches use NIL as an excuse?
22:01: Why different people in the same program will give you a different number for their roster spend
32:36: If coach pay isn’t going down, what does that say about what we can reasonably expect from coaches without a ton of roster cash?
43:23: Dissecting the season’s three big-budget disasters so far: Oregon, Michigan, and Texas A&M.
Producer: Anthony Vito
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49 min
Week 8 CFB Hurry-Up: The Big 12 Has the Goods
Show notes
Richard Johnson and Alex Kirshner take you on a 30-ish minute journey through yet another really wild weekend in college football. This episode covers 43 games, including:
1:25: UCF 39, BYU 31 (2OT)
3:13: Cincinnati 37, Texas Tech 24
5:27: Utah 21, Houston 13
11:02: Texas 34, Ole Miss 27
13:59: South Carolina 27, Tennessee 24
19:13: Indiana 13, Michigan 6 (OT)
25:00: Wisconsin 24, USC 7
28:23: Miami 52, Pitt 23
34:46: FAU 51, Rice 49
38:33: New Mexico 21, North Dakota State 16
Producer: Anthony Vito
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9 min
Maryland Fires Up the Coach Carousel: What a Terp Thinks About This Job
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Coach firing season is upon us, and the first ouster of the year comes from Maryland, alma mater of SZD host Alex Kirshner. Richard joins him to talk through the first opening on the market. In this episode:
The meaning of Locksley’s Maryland tenure, and why it isn’t a failure despite eight-plus years of mostly bad results
5:48: Why firing season got a late start this season
12:47: What kind of job is this, really?
21:50: A very, very early candidate wishlist from a Terp
Producer: Anthony Vito
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1 hr 27 min
Week 8 CFB Tasting Menu: A Coach Gets Fired In the Middle of This Show
Show notes
Week 8 preview! Richard and Alex start this episode with a quick football digression about Manchester City and then get into the mega-preview of this week in CFB. We cover a bunch of games, some in a lot of detail, some quickly:
* 1:41: Manchester City digression
* 6:10: JMU at App State
* 18:21: Indiana at Michigan
* 26:45: LSU at Auburn
* 35:40: Rutgers at Northwestern
* 39:50: West Virginia at TCU
* 46:48: Oregon at Illinois
* 50:22: BYU at UCF
* 1:04:20: San Diego State at Colorado State
* 1:07:09: Virginia Tech at Clemson
* 1:10:55: Ole Miss at Texas
* 1:13:19: Mike Locksley news breaks mid-show
* 1:23:56: Houston at Utah
Those are just a handful out of the dozens of games we cover this week. Produced by Anthony Vito.
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21 min
Team of the Week: Did Utah’s Big Gamble Work?
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Utah placed a big, risky bet when it nudged away Kyle Whittingham so that it could elevate a coach-in-waiting, Morgan Scalley. Rodger and Alex both thought this team would be worse this season. But instead, the Utes are undefeated contenders for both the Big 12 and the playoff, and their decision to show one of the best coaches in recent history the door is looking … pretty good?
* 2:13: Why Utah has surprised both hosts
* 8:18: The two-quarterback experiment at a weird time for it (but it works!)
* 11:59: Remembering some Utes
* 15:41: BYU’s rise and the pressure to move on from Whittingham
* 26:24: The coach-in-waiting gamble and why Utah wanted Scalley
* 45:41: Utah’s private equity deal and the cost of keeping up
Everyone can hear a free preview of this episode. To get the whole thing, become a paid subscriber today. For $10 a month (or you can get a free month with an annual subscription), subscribers get about twice as many Split Zone Duo podcasts, as well as our coach carousel reporting, deep dives on college football history, Q&A opportunities, and many more goodies as we think of them. You also help keep this show independent and ensure we're making a podcast that puts our listeners, not anyone else, first.
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56 min
The Week 7: Hurry-Up: One of CFB’s Wildest Weeks Ever + Chompin’ Texas
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Richard Johnson and Alex Kirshner break down one of college football’s wildest weeks ever, in which five of the top seven teams in the country lost and another came awfully close. We start with BYU’s late escape against Notre Dame and continue through the rest of this historic Week 7 in the following order:
* 1:33: Big 12 and Notre Dame, led by BYU 28, Notre Dame 24
* 12:53: SEC, led by Auburn 27, Georgia 24
* 27:58: Big Ten, led by Ohio State 19, Indiana 15
* 36:15: ACC, led by Miami 43, Florida State 35
* 42:40: American, led by Tulane 31, Memphis 17
* 46:04: Pac-12, led by Oregon State 48, Washington State 30
* 47:45: Mountain West, led by Air Force 41, UNLV 31
* 50:20: MAC, led by Western Michigan 21, Central Michigan 14
* 51:54: Sun Belt, led by App State 35, Coastal Carolina 32
* 53:36: Conference USA, led by Jacksonville State 27, FIU 24
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Producer: Anthony Vito
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12 min
Emergency Subscriber Show: Let’s Process a 24-Team Playoff Together
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Richard and Alex react to the College Football Playoff’s expansion to 12 teams, starting in 2027. Let’s talk through this together:
* 0:00: Why this thing we dislike is happening
* 9:12: Whose lot in life just changed a whole lot
* 19:30: The inevitable impact on the regular season
* 30:20: The big winners here, plus a closing discussion about how Split Zone Duo is going to respond to (and be affected by) this change
Produced by Alex in a pinch! Thanks for listening.
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18 min
Team of the Week: Oregon State Rose from the Ashes
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College football forgot about Oregon State. But Jesse Legree, Braden Atkinson, and JaMarcus Shephard are forcing the Beavers back in the national CFB consciousness. Yes, there are anxieties about how to keep the band together, but there is also a beautiful story about how a team is rising from the ashes anew to apparently kick ass in the new Pac-12. Richard and Rodger discuss how the Beavers have become one of the nation’s most enjoyable teams.
* 0:00: Oregon State’s revival under JaMarcus Shephard
* 5:05: Jesse Legree’s unlikely rise
* 17:13: Remember a Guy, and how Oregon State got left behind
* 29:25: Pac-12 title hopes and a possible playoff path
* 40:39: Can the Beavers keep Shephard and Legree?
Produced by Anthony Vito.
TEAM OF THE WEEK is a subscriber series where Rodger Sherman and SZD hosts talk about a college football team doing something no one else is doing
We’ve already covered the following:
This series will continue all season.
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1 hr 38 min
The Week 7 CFB Tasting Menu: The Second Wednesday In October
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Richard and Alex take you on a preview of Week 7, starting with the weeknight grab bags and continuing through various blockbusters in places like Columbus and Provo. We cover dozens of games on this show, including these:
* 13:55: Florida at Texas
* 20:02: Kansas at Kansas State
* 24:38: Mississippi State at LSU
* 33:53: Ohio State at Indiana
* 42:19: Western Michigan at Central Michigan
* 43:51: Alabama at Tennessse
* 51:36: Missouri at Ole Miss
* 55:04: Penn State at Michigan (who should be more upset?)
* 1:05:37: Florida State at Miami
* 1:09:38: TCU at Baylor
* 1:16:05: Notre Dame at BYU
* 1:34:56: Nebraska at Oregon
Producer: Anthony Vito
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24 min
James Madison is American + CFB’s Backup QB Crisis (?)
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Steven Godfrey joins Richard and Alex to talk about some stories we’d already planned to mark the halfway point of the season. But first, we’ve got a REALIGNMENT INTERRUPTION, brought to us by James Madison leaving the Sun Belt for the American Conference in 2028. In this episode:
0:26: JMU’s move to the American
9:44: Roster management people and coaches seem to think it’s impossible to find good backup QBs now. Do we agree? And is there a statistical way to see if anything has really changed? (It’s hard because defining a “backup” in a robust statistical way is impossible in modern college football.)
29:09: A change to punt formation rules was supposed to chaos special teams chaos this season. What actually happened?
39:48: Alex expands on FOOTSHOT, his blunt-object stat that elaborates on how often teams shoot themselves in the foot. Hello, Buffs!
Producer: Anthony Vito.
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45 min
The Week 6 CFB Hurry-Up: Stockton Up
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Richard Johnson and Alex Kirshner guide you through the best college football week yet this year, led by Georgia’s big win in Tuscaloosa and a Red River upset and then bouncing through dozens more games. Including:
* 1:33: SEC, led by Georgia 20, Alabama 17 and Oklahoma 27, Texas 24
* 14:40: Pac-12, led by Boise State 38, Fresno State 31
* 16:23: Big Ten, led by Indiana 20, Nebraska 17
* 25:59: Big 12, led by BYU 24, Iowa State 10
* 29:14: ACC and Notre Dame, led by North Carolina 21, Pitt 17
* 33:43: American, led by Army 20, Tulane 17
* 35:48: Mountain West, led by UNLV 13, North Dakota State 7
* 36:58: MAC, led by Eastern Michigan 25, Akron 23
* 38:49: Sun Belt, led by James Madison 27, Georgia Southern 24
* 43:01: Conference USA, led by FIU 22, New Mexico State 3
Producer: Anthony Vito.
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25 min
Mailbag: Why Are Lincoln Riley’s Defenses Bad? What Can Penn State Do? Will the Senate Bill End Portal Kings?
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Subscriber mailbag, with questions brought to you by the listeners at www.splitzoneduo.com.
Alex Kirshner answers subscriber questions ahead of Week 6! Why does Lincoln Riley always put mediocre defenses on the field? There are three pretty good theories from people who know him well. Is there a surprising reason to think Texas’ offense will turn things around? Does Michigan have a “culture” problem or something more simple? Can Kane Wommack tell us anything much about how the coaching carousel works today? Would the Protect College Sports Act be a bad thing for portal-heavy head coaches? Are stadium renovations over? And plenty more in this mailbag, which is edited by Anthony Vito.
CATCH UP ON THIS WEEK AT SPLIT ZONE DUO
* Listen to the Week 6 Tasting Menu, our preview of the weekend. Alex and Richard Johnson cover all of the week’s most interesting games and stop along the way to talk about a few big stories and ask some questions. Such as this one: Is South Carolina actually too broke to fire Shane Beamer?
* The Charlotte 49ers are the worst team in the country. They are also Split Zone Duo’s TEAM OF THE WEEK. Rodger Sherman talks with Richard about a program whose potential remains completely theoretical, and about how an ambitious move into FBS football can go horribly awry.
* We’ll see you Sunday for the Hurry-Up, landing by early afternoon.
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1 hr 32 min
The Week 6 CFB Tasting Menu: Can YOU Afford a Buyout This Week?
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Week 6 preview! Richard and Alex talk about what’s interesting to them in the big college football weekend to come, while stopping to cover a handful of big stories along the way.
32:43: Is South Carolina actually too broke to fire Shane Beamer?
47:31: Can Oklahoma score an offensive touchdown in Red River?
1:07:27: When it comes to Cal coach Tosh Lupoi, Richard is … vindicated?
1:10:35: Are Ohio State fans in the “Lunatic Fringe” right to be worried?
1:18:47: Is UNLV a genuine trouble spot for North Dakota State?
1:21:05: Are we fully aligned on Alabama being all the way back, before the Tide host Georgia in a potential hurricane game?
1:27:50: Who wins: Penn State’s stoppable force or USC’s movable object?
1:30:54: Could Fresno State spoil Boise’s run to an unbeaten Pac-12 slate?
Producer: Anthony Vito
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17 min
Team of the Week: Charlotte (Let Us Explain)
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Subscriber episode! Join us to hear the whole thing.
The Charlotte 49ers are quite possibly the worst team in FBS in 2026, so why should you care? Rodger Sherman joins to explain. Part of Charlotte's story is the actual cautionary tale of moving up from FCS to FBS and the old thing Richard never shuts up about: Winning is not a business model. But there are nearly 1:1 examples of Charlotte-style programs that have found success. We dive into what gives in the Queen City. In this episode:
0:00: Why Charlotte gets the nod this week despite being so bad
5:15: A rapid climb from startup program to the American
16:31: “Winning is not a business model”
30:33: What UTSA got right that the 49ers very much did not
Producer: Anthony Vito
TEAM OF THE WEEK is a subscriber series where Rodger Sherman and SZD hosts talk about a college football team doing something no one else is doing
We’ve already covered the following:
This series will continue all season.
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46 min
The Week 5 CFB Hurry-Up: Florida is Not Back
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Richard and Rodger Sherman take you on a 30(ish)-minute journey through Week 4 of the college football season. We begin with Missouri beating Florida to a pulp and waltz through the rest of the CFB schedule.SEC
* Missouri 45, Florida 17
* Georgia 38, Vanderbilt 14
* Alabama 56, Mississippi State 23
* Tennessee 24, Auburn 14
* Kentucky 35, South Carolina 34
BIG TEN
* Ohio State 31, Iowa 14
* USC 25, Washington 21
* Purdue 24, Illinois 17
* Michigan 20, Minnesota 14
* Nebraska 48, Maryland 23
* Northwestern 34, Penn State 13
* Wisconsin 31, Michigan State 3
BIG 12
* BYU 17, TCU 10
* Texas Tech 29, Colorado 7
* Houston 27, UCF 17
* Arizona 34, Cincinnati 7
* Baylor 55, Arizona State 19
* Iowa State 45, West Virginia 42
ACC
* Notre Dame 37, North Carolina 26
* Miami 41, Clemson 13
* SMU 25, Boston College 16
* Florida State 38, Virginia 7
* NC State 31, Louisville 28
* Pitt 35, Virginia Tech 33
* Wake Forest 57, Stanford 3
AMERICAN
* Memphis 59, Charlotte 8
* UTSA 16, Rice 14
* Temple 17, USF 13
* North Texas 45, Tulsa 44
MOUNTAIN WEST
* Air Force 14, Navy 9
* San Jose State 20, Hawaii 16
* NDSU 28, Wyoming 0
* UNLV 39, Cal 31
MAC
* Toledo 39, Ball State 24
* WMU 20, Buffalo 17
* Ohio 13, Kent State 10
* Eastern Michigan 35, UMass 14
* Bowling Green 24, Miami (OH) 20
SUN BELT
* James Madison 45, Marshall 17
* Louisiana 23, Arkansas State 20
* Louisiana Tech 31, Army 29
CONFERENCE USA
* New Mexico State 34, Western Kentucky 13
PAC-12
* Oregon State 56, Colorado State 26
* San Diego State 31, Texas State 29
FBS INDEPENDENTS
* Syracuse 42, UConn 41
FCS
* Idaho 35, Montana State 34
* Harvard 20, Colgate 17
* Yale 41, Merrimack 28
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12 min
The Sooners and the Senate (Subscriber Mailbag)
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Mailbag time! Alex and Richard answer subscriber questions on three broad topics, which sometimes meander into new areas:
0:53: Oklahoma has two losses heading into Red Vier. Who do we blame, and what would we do about it?
11:43: What keeps college football fresh for us, given that it’s now “work”?
17:19: How much has College GameDay changed? And how much of our shifting perception about the show is because we have changed?
29:54: What do we think about the current Protect College Sports Act?
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