Sports Cards Nonsense

Mike and Jesse open the show discussing The Nashional and what the environment was like at the show. Plus, a story from Mike about having to intervene on behalf of a listener with a scummy dealer.

Are we facing a market downturn, or are consumers just being more selective about what they buy? Phil from Sealed Wax Nation stops by after an event at Vandy Children's Hospital this morning. Plus, another disappointing drop from Topps.

0:00 - Show Intro, The Nashional Recap

6:50 - People are more selective about breaks these days. Are they holding out for their preferred product, or is it a sign of trouble in the market?

15:00 - Gio is furious and rants after a kid got ripped off at The Nashional

18:15 - Mike reveals a custom Bill Simmons/Mike Gio dual cut auto

23:15 - Another issue with a big release.

26:30 - Intro to Phil and what he’s doing with charity with Sealed Wax Nation

39:30- Getting to be part of the Vandy/Ryan Seacrest studio and giving kids packs

49:20 - Voicemails presented by Heystack and kicking off with Larry

1:06:30 - The Mickey Mantle $50M sale that has never been confirmed

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Dalen and Amanda from Junk Wax Vintage join Mike and Jesse in the studio. We get the backstory on how they got started, how their business has grown, and more!

Plus, an update from PSA that collectors have been waiting for. We also dive into the latest celebrity to enter the hobby in a serious capacity. Actress Emma Roberts is starting a new breaking business. Plus, we have an abbreviated voicemail session.

0:00 - Dalen and Amanda in the studio!

4:30 - How did Dalen and Amanda meet?

12:00 - How did Dalen and Amanda get into collecting?

21:45 - Dalen on building out the streaming business

32:40 - How to start in the hobby?

39:00 - When was the first “oh crap” moment

47:25 - Big news out of PSA with the return of Value.

53:50 - Emma Roberts is entering the card space with a breaking company

1:12:00 - Voicemails brought to you by Arena Club

1:20:25 - A Parody call that was actually good

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After a busy weekend, Mike and Jesse are back, and Mike takes a trip down Nostalgia Lane to explain why buying PC cards again is the right idea in today's market.

Plus, we look ahead to a few upcoming baseball products, including Mike's favorite set of the year. We hit voicemails, and interview Jared with Pristine Auctions!

0:00 - This is the perfect time to buy PC cards again

5:25 - Some individual cards and players got out of whack over the summer, but things have slowed down a bit post-National

12:20 - Will the new Dak Prescott “F*ck Cancer” card be the new Billy Ripken error card?

16:00 - Card Show safety etiquette after a dealer was robbed of over $200k of cards leaving a show.

21:55 - Looking back at Consiglieri Corner

28:00 - Topps Five Star Baseball preview and looking ahead to Cosmic Chrome Baseball

33:00 - Voicemails presented by eBay

41:35 - Best way to keep track of buying/selling at shows or in general

44:00 - Mike is still waiting on a redemption from Panini

52:15 - How AI is impacting the card hobby

56:15 - The biggest factors for the hobby boom

1:05:50 - How Jared wanted to get into selling collectibles

1:14:40 - Art and coins are two of the areas that Pristine is really looking to grow.

1:19:20 - Basketball Mt. Rushmore: Jordan, Kobe, Steve Nash, and Devin Booker

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Mike and Papa Gio introduce Auntie Di to the audience, and Jesse can't get enough of her background. Prizepicks bought the Cooper Flagg Debut Patch Auto and is putting it into a repack. Prizepicks operates under a gambling license and has a different repack style, one that concerns both Mike and Jesse.

We try to get some inside information from a police officer and a former FedEx driver about what could have happened in the FedEx/PSA theft. Plus, we wrap up with voicemails.

0:00 - Introducing Auntie Di to the audience

14:10 - Prizepicks bought the Cooper Flagg Debut Patch Auto and is putting it in a repack

16:35 - The repacks themselves seem… not great.

25:00 - Calling a law enforcement officer about the FedEx/PSA theft

32:20 - Calling a former FedEx Driver who is a friend of Mike and Jesse’s

34:45 - Initial reaction to leaving a truck unattended for 60 minutes? Dewey has never heard of a driver doing that.

36:00 - Consiglieri Corner with Papa Gio and Mike Sterk

44:30 - Voicemails Presented by Arena Club

51:30 - TAG starting mobile grading scans

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Ben Burrows from The Athletic joins Mike and Jesse to give us the latest on the massive theft from a FedEx truck full of PSA slabs. The latest numbers are staggering. Over orders, seven-figures worth of cards, hundreds of slabs. Stolen in broad daylight from a locked FedEx truck that was suspiciously abandoned for 90 minutes.

We wrap up with voicemails and have an updated Mt. Rushmore after Tuesday's show.

0:00 - Intro

3:50 - Ben Burrows from The Athletic joins to discuss the PSA/FedEx Theft

6:05 - The driver reported he left the vehicle for 60-90 minutes, but doesn’t know where he went. When he returned, the lock was broken and contents removed.

7:25 - The first two pallets were taken, and half of the final pallet was taken. Roughly $1M in stolen goods, minimum.

15:00 - PSA response is to pay the maximum insured value of the card, per emails from those affected.

22:00 - Police did not seem very familiar with trading cards or implied value.

29:00 - Mike Trout is opening his own breaking shop and platform with other athletes.

52:40 - Head to voicemails.

57:00 - Buying guide from Gio

1:01:20 - Selling or Grading, and why people are too willing to grade cards they shouldn’t

1:14:15 - Hans Gruber takes credit for PSA theft

1:25:30 - Would love to see more super-limited short-print sets from Topps

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Shohei Ohtani is struggling, and the Dodgers are on the verge of elimination. How to deal with the Ohtani market crash. Plus, will we ever hear from Justin Steele again? Tough to say!

Geoff Wilson's latest comments have caught the ire of Mike, and he tees off on them. Joe Bartel from RotoWire joins to look ahead to Week 6 in the NFL. Who is a buy and sell right now? Plus, we do a Top 6 Blind Ranking courtesy of Pristine Auctions.

0:00 - Ohtani's market is crashing, but is it time to sell?

11:50 - Can Ohtani catch Bonds’ MVP record? That looks like the only way his market goes up exponentially again

19:15 - Will we ever hear from Justin Steele again?

22:30 - Grading sketch cards, is it worth it?

27:00 - Getting at Geoff Wilson over some incredibly dumb tweets

31:00 - Everyone hates redemptions; this isn’t new

33:45 - Joe Bartel of RotoWire

40:40 - The Trevor Lawrence conundrum - time to buy back in?

50:00 - Who would you sell right now?

57:05 - We need sports/non-sports crossovers

1:02:00 - Pristine Auctions Top 6

1:14:00 - Voicemails brought to you by Arena Club

1:15:30 - Meg from We The Hobby on the WNBA Market

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Mike and Jesse are joined in the studio by Shep and Mike Sterk for the first four-man booth. Mike revels in his reverse-mush working on Drake Maye. He also spent the weekend buying every Paul George rookie card he could find. Shep discusses how shops get athletes in the store. Plus, he dives into allocation and MSRP to dispel some myths. Mike has a product idea for Topps that could be a game-changer. Wrapping up with voicemails!

0:00 - Intro and the Gio reverse mush is alive and well

4:45 - Gio spent an ungodly amount of money on Paul George rookies

11:00 - A big weekend for Shep

15:00 - How card shops can work on getting athletes in the shop

18:00 - Do tax and shipping come into play as a comp for a card

28:00 - Allocation for card shops

32:00 - Are Shops required to sell at MSRP?

41:00 - Mike’s New Idea for a Product “Topps Juiced”

56:00 - You never want to be the person holding the bag

1:01:00 - Educating Sterk about Disney

1:14:00 - The LCS remains the backbone of the hobby

1:25:00 - Trade everything away for one grail

1:33:00 - Not a junk wax era

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We kick off the show with Sterk's Starting Five, the five most important players left in the postseason in real-life baseball and cardboard. Gio takes a look at the MLB postseason market. Then we get into our inaugural SCN Trivia Challenge! Find out who wins. We also get an update on PSA's vault and on Mike and Jesse's charity stream on eBay Live. Wrapping up with voicemails from Mt. Rushmore.

0:00 - Intro

1:00 - Sterk’s Starting Five

19:00 - MLB Postseason Market Update

22:25 - The Realest Ohtani Promotion

25:15 - SCN Trivia

54:20 - PSA Update

57:20 - Upcoming eBay Live charity stream

1:00:00 - SCN Challenge Update

1:04:00 - Mt. Rushmore Voicemail

1:10:45 - Will we solve the riddle before the next show?

1:12:20 - What was Franco’s gift for Papa Gio?

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Mike has company today, as Jesse is back off the IL (Gout). We get into Jason Kelce's $30k hobby adventure and how he was completely misled about the boxes he bought. Mike has a bone to pick with the shipping from Fanatics Instant Rips. Plus, how much would you need to give up a misprinted 1-of-1 card?

Plus, we hit voicemails and have a new member of the SCN Mt. Rushmore.

0:00- Intro

9:15 - SGC 9.5 vs. PSA 9 market price differences

13:55 - Buying SGC or BGS 9s is a nice little hack for PC cards

15:00 - Jason Kelce spends $35,000 to chase Brady rookie cards

29:30 - Shipping for the Fanatics Instant Rips has been a disaster. Shipping has to be secure.

39:00 - Topps offers $400 fancash for a 1/1 Ronnie Lott Tecmo Bowl; Gio says to turn it down and ask for $5k

1:10:25 - 2000s eTopps Cards have gone up massively

1:18:00 - Checking in with a 5th grade teacher about what kids are collecting

1:33:30 - WNBA Investing Update

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Franco, Not Wander

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In this episode, we find out how many Mike's are too many without Jesse, who is out sick. Mike Gio and Mike Sterk look at the hobby values of the players who won so far in the MLB Playoffs. Plus, Mike and Mike share their misery about the Red Sox and Cubs being out. Looking at the Mantle and Ohtani markets.

Then we are joined by Michael Katz from Trove, making it four Mikes on the show. We get his hobby backstory and his Mt. Rushmore of Boston Sports.

We wrap up with the news that Larry is confirmed to be coming to town, which begs the question: should Sterk and Brendan come as well?

0:00-Intro + MLB Playoffs

8:00 - Looking at the hobby value of playoff winners

13:30 - Mantle vs. Ohtani in the market

24:00 - Michael Katz interview, CEO/Founder of Trove

33:05 - What was his education process getting back in the hobby?

45:00 - Boston Sports Mt. Rushmore

48:55 - Mike hits Gio about his eBay Live

1:07:30 - Gio has no interest in Nate Bargatze coming on the show

1:12:15 - Sterk wants to buy PSA 8s vs. Raw

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Mike and Jesse are joined by Funcle in the studio today (and Papa Gio, kind of) to look back at most of Week 3 in the NFL. Why it might be too late to sell some of your non-rookies for football. Funcle's guide to buying and grading in the current market. The Cooper Flagg Debut Patch wrapped up at auction, and Mike thinks people have too much money. Plus, are cards now status symbols? Wrapping up with the Mt. Rushmore of non-sports cards.

0:00 - Intro and Funcle in studio

12:30 - NFL Buy/Sell after Week 3

14:30 - Better to sell football before the season starts, as guys will sell more in preseason than once the season starts

17:25 - What is Funcle buying to grade these days?

29:15 - Differences between the major sports as investment pieces

37:35 - The Cooper Flagg Debut Patch Auto sold for $8M, but how outrageous is that sale?

42:00 - Are cards turning into status symbols?

47:15 - Why aren’t Bowman Chrome U more popular for football and basketball like Bowman prospects for baseball?

1:05:00 - Tips for vending at a card show

1:13:40 - Are PED suspensions a death sentence for hobby value?

1:36:00 - Who is the most underrated athlete?

1:39:45 - Mount Rushmore for Non-Sports

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Mike and Jesse open the show, airing a few grievances while Jesse ponders life and how far behind he is in the SCN Challenge. A new scam involving high-end counterfeit cards is causing concern. Plus, Joe Bartel from RotoWire joins to look at the football market after Week 2 in the NFL, the markets for backup QBs, and why you shouldn't trust young, unproven QBs. Wrapping up with voicemails and Casey Kravit from Fanatics to discuss a new Instant Rips for Topps Pristine Basketball.

0:00 - Intro and the airing of grievances

11:00 - DC Sports 87 pulls cards after noticing counterfeit cards.

18:00 - You have to root these people out of the hobby.

22:30 - Joe Bartel of RotoWire joins the show.

23:00 - Any of the backup quarterbacks worth investing in?

31:00 - Is Tyler Shough for real?

33:30 - Penny stock running backs and wide receivers to invest in.

40:00 - Justin Herbert’s market is about to go in the tank.

50:25 - Is Funcle going to take the third chair from Papa Gio on Monday?

54:05 - The Introduction of the “Gio 300” and “Jesse 300”

57:25 - Kicking off voicemails

1:03:35 - Time to rename the show “Stupid Watch Nonsense”

1:18:00 - Beefcake on setting up at shows

1:21:35 - Casey Kravit from Fanatics on the new Instant Rips

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Mike and Jesse are back after a chaotic Week 2 in the NFL. Major injuries across the league have thrown a wrench into the NFL season, the SCN Challenge, fantasy football, and more. Mike has the most important rule about football cards you can hear. Plus, we get to Steve Sloan from Heystack to discuss his time in the hobby, the prospect of collecting a team that is leaving your city, and the tech Heystack has that you need. Wrapping up with voicemails!

0:00 - Intro & why you need to sell football whenever a player has a big game.

10:00 - Breaking down Week 2 in the NFL

30:00 - Steve Sloan from Heystack joins the podcast and discusses his history in the hobby

41:15 - What is Steve Sloan collecting these days

45:30 - The biggest concern Steve has in the hobby is a prolonged MLB work stoppage

52:15 - Favorite PC pieces are Oakland A’s and Macklin Celebrini

58:10 - We need regulation in the card-breaking industry to cut down in the Wild West attitude.

1:05:10 - Voicemails presented by Trove

1:09:25 - Frozenfractor isn’t going to age well, but looking at some of the Topps case hits could hold value long-term. Kaiju

1:15:30 - What to do with a football hit out of Flagship

1:30:00 - Looking at the prices of Definitive Basketball and how breakers jacked up pricing on it

1:32:30 - Dark predictions for the hobby

1:41:00 - Can SCN scale the SCN Challenge?

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Caleb

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Mike and Jesse are back with Papa Gio, discussing the ideal time to sell in certain markets and whether you can even time them. Plus, looking at NFL markets after Week 1 and who is worth buying/selling right now. Breaking down Week 1 of the SCN Challenge. The most expensive Topps product yet. Wrapping up talking with Justin Steele of the Cubs and hitting voicemails.

0:00 - Intro + health scares

7:45 - When do you sell? What is the correct time to do it?

19:25 - Looking at how Shough, Lawrence, and Caleb Williams are up big.

24:30 - SCN Challenge Update

30:00 - Fanatics is opening a second Flagship store in Paris

37:00 - Topps Definitive coming out at nearly 40k per case

39:30 - Checking in with Justin Steele

46:45 - Steele is back on top, and PCA is falling down the ladder of favorite show-adjacent athletes

1:00:00 - Best practices for listings on eBay

1:05:00 - Could Fanatics start making sports movie card sets?

1:13:55 - There are so many Cooper Flagg cards

1:35:45 - The future of redemptions from Panini as they keep pushing towards points.

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Leonard Fournette joins Mike and Jesse in the studio in Nashville to discuss his love of the hobby, his Pokemon collection, and the location of his future card shop on LSU's campus. Plus, we hit the voicemails to get the latest from Larry and more! However, we have to lead with the situation surrounding Fanatics Emanate and why it is a bad look, but Mike and Jesse don't think it affects the card market.

0:00 - Intro and Fanatics Collect Shipping Manifest Left in package

3:55 - If this were a card product, it would be a huge scandal. Is it a good look? No, it’s quite terrible.

6:30 - Topps has made it clear that card products are randomized and distributed randomly, but the fact that a shipping manifest exists raises questions about the cards.

11:55 - Opening week in the NFL was rough for Mike’s takes

22:50 - Leonard Fournette Interview

57:05 - Takeaways from Leonard Fournette and favorite moments.

1:04:35 - Mark Wahlberg entering the card space with Paradise Breaks.

1:07:00 - Calling Wesley to discuss the Cooper Flagg shop opening.

1:12:25 - Larry is coming to Nashville to see the boys.

1:20:00 - Voicemails leading with Larry.

1:40:00 - Ripping Arena Club packs

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The NFL is back, and Drake Maye got off to an awful start. Looking at Maye's market and what other young quarterbacks will need to do to see positive movement in the card market this year. PSA released good news yesterday by opening a new grading tier. Plus, a new center in Europe will help lower the backlog. Wrapping up with voicemails on vintage cards, expensive wax, and Larry Legend's return.

0:00 - Intro

2:00 - Drake Maye struggled

9:00 - Looking at quarterbacks around the league

16:00 - PSA updates tier names, creates a new tier, and updates turnaround times

30:00 - Voicemails

44:00 - Looking at vintage cards

1:00:00 - Wax is too expensive

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Football season is so different from other sports, and each game has an outsized impact on a card market. Introducing the SCN Challenge and breaking down Mike and Jesse's teams. Hitting voicemails, as Larry Legend already has impersonators.

0:00 - Intro and why Football season is so different from everything else

9:00 - Intro to the SCN Challenge

21:00 - Mike crushes Jesse’s picks

29:00 - Can a non-rookie ever be a player's best card?

37:00 - Larry already has impersonators

43:40 - Could we be nearing a Shohei Ohtani plateau? He’s never had base autos, but it's similar to Tom Brady in that he doesn’t sign a lot.

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With the NFL season kicking off in a week, we look at the rookie class and wonder: since it is so bad, will collectors go back to the 2024 class? That and more with Joe Bartel from RotoWire. Plus, with Topps Chrome Update Sapphire Basketball out today, is it worth grading anything, or should you sell everything immediately? Finally, we wrap up with voicemails, and Larry the legend nearly kills Mike.

0:00 - Intro

3:00 - With new products, what should you do with big hits you are planning to sell?

4:15 - If you hit anything, you need to sell it immediately.

7:30 - If you’re planning on selling anything after release, you need to sell it all immediately.

20:00 - SGC vs. PSA

29:00 - Joe Bartel joins to talk NFL

31:00 - NFL rookies to chase, but it’s a rough class

33:15 - Buying in on Jayden Daniels? Or looking back at the 2024 class in general?

38:00 - Is this a time to buy back in Mahomes, despite not having high fantasy value?

53:20- Larry called back in and nearly killed Mike

1:04:00- What happened to Beckett?

1:06:45 - Time to buy Aaron Judge

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Looking ahead to one of the biggest baseball releases of the year with Kyle Rino from Monster Breaks on Bowman Chrome Baseball. Plus, why a recent basketball release is likely going to be the worst release of the year. Cooper Flagg is opening a card store, but is it a good idea? We wrap up with voicemails!

0:00 - Opening up the show with a disappointing update on Topps Chrome Black Basketball

9:45 - Papa Gio Update

24:15 - Mike’s watch collecting is taking over his life, and Jesse has questions

32:30 - Cooper Flagg opening a card store

39:25 - Kyle Rino on Bowman Chrome

42:00 - GPKs are the best chases in the Bowman Chrome product

43:55 - Rino’s Mt. Rushmore for top chases in the 2026 product

55:00 - The story behind “Cooks to 99”

1:02:05 - SCN & Monster Breaks being the destination for Bowman

1:06:00 - Jesse’s Big Disney break finally happened

1:17:05 - Looking at the Mahomes market

1:21:00 - The Return of Larry!

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Mike and Jesse are back and Mike has a sense of renewed enjoyment in the hobby after buying the lot last week. Fanatics has major news. Plus, we hit voicemails!

0:00 - Fans of the hobby will find something to be loving right now. For example, Mike combing through the lot he picked up and finding cards he loves.

8:30 - Pardon the Nonsense Debut

11:00 - Trying to call Papa Gio in prison

13:25 - Breaking news from Fanatics - Digital Rips are coming to Fanatics starting with Topps Chrome Black Basketball at $100 per pack. Cards are real, similar to Upper Deck ePack

17:15 - Topps is trying to be innovative in keeping costs down

23:10 - Opening the Voicemails

40:00 - Justin Steele calls back in and calling him back

47:30 - Wrap up calls

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