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Jenn interviews Richard Lim, host of the podcast This American President, about his book Refusing a Crown: How George Washington Changed the World. Lim explains how a conversation with a relative from China sparked his deeper interest in Washington, arguing Americans reduce him to “first president” and “slave owner” while missing the global significance of his restraint in giving up power.

They discuss the risky nature of America’s founding, the Newburgh Conspiracy, Washington’s resignation at Annapolis, and how his adherence to civilian control shaped expectations for republics all over the world.

Join us for a fresh (and less discussed) perspective on Washington and the landmarks that keep his legacy alive.

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Explore Astoria, Oregon, on a road trip to the real Goonies filming locations.

Scott and Jenn uncover the history behind the movie storyline, what visitors can see today, and the hidden history that makes this coastal town more than a film destination. A fun history-and-travel stop for Goonies fans and history-loving travelers.

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Did you know that the original McDonald's is NOT where McDonald's says it is?

Take a Route 66 road trip to San Bernardino and explore the hidden history of the original McDonald’s location. Scott and Jenn trace the story behind this landmark, share what makes it a memorable stop for history travel, and tell you the darker side of McDonald's that most people don't know.

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Turn your next road trip into an American history adventure.

Discover hidden local history, epic historic sites, battlefields, and maps with easy, one-click driving directions — history and travel right in the palm of your hand!

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🎙️ Talk with History is the #1 Road Trip podcast for History Travelers!

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Did you know you can visit the town that inspired Radiator Springs?

Plan a Route 66 road trip to Seligman, Arizona, where historic travel meets the hidden history behind the town that inspired Pixar’s Cars. Scott and Jenn explore the town’s connection to the Mother Road, share what travelers can see today, and offer a lively stop to add to your next Arizona itinerary.

📍 Visit Seligman

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Explore John Wesley Powell's legendary 1869 river expedition through the Grand Canyon—the daring exploration that mapped the unmapped and redefined American adventure.

Scott and Jenn share the hidden history visitors miss, take you inside Powell's groundbreaking scientific journey, and reveal why this historic travel destination tells a story far deeper than scenic views.

Perfect for your next Western road trip.

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The Art of Adventure Podcast

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We built History or Drive — a simple map with almost 1,400 historic sites tied to videos and podcasts so you stop driving past the good stuff. You open it in any browser, tap a pin, and get one-click directions.

But why? How is there 1,400 locations with videos at almost all of them? A video at EVERY location?

Join us as we explain how it all happened.

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🗺️ Want to visit the places we talked about? We've mapped them all (and more) in History or Drive. 🗺️

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Turn your next road trip into an American history adventure.

Discover hidden local history, epic historic sites, battlefields, and maps with easy, one-click driving directions — history and travel right in the palm of your hand!

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🎙️ Talk with History is the #1 Road Trip podcast for History Travelers!

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How did Los Alamos become the site where Manhattan Project scientists changed the course of WWII...and the world??

In this episode, a historian explains how this secret city became one of America's most important military history destinations—and why you should add it to your next road trip. We'll explore what visitors can see today, the stories behind the locations, and insider travel tips for this unique New Mexico historic site.

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🗺️ Want to visit the places we talked about? We've mapped them all (and more) in History or Drive. 🗺️

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Turn your next road trip into an American history adventure.

Discover hidden local history, epic historic sites, battlefields, and maps with easy, one-click driving directions — history and travel right in the palm of your hand!

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🎙️ Talk with History is the #1 Road Trip podcast for History Travelers!

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Today, we're diving into some seriously eye-opening history with Dr. Susan O'Donovan and her new book, "Moving Toward the Political Education of Enslaved Americans."

How did enslaved americans know the Civil War was starting? Or what the political environment was like leading up to the Civil War?

Dr. O'Donovan takes us on a wild ride through the lives of these incredible individuals who, despite their circumstances, were soaking up knowledge and plotting their paths to freedom.

Settle in for your drive...this is going to get interesting.

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Turn your next road trip into an American history adventure.

Discover hidden local history, epic historic sites, battlefields, and maps with easy, one-click driving directions — history and travel right in the palm of your hand!

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🎙️ Talk with History is the #1 Road Trip podcast for History Travelers!

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Cadillac Ranch is Route 66's most iconic roadside stop—but most travelers don't know its wild history.

Discover why artists built this monument in 1974, how it became a cultural phenomenon, and what it reveals about American road-trip nostalgia. Scott and Jenn explore the unexpected stories behind the spray-painted Caddies, the artist collective's vision, and why this hidden history matters for your next Route 66 road trip.

Your essential historic travel guide to one of America's most photographed stops.

📍 Travel to Cadillac Ranch and other historic spots

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🗺️ Want to visit the places we talked about? We've mapped them all (and more) in History or Drive. 🗺️

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Turn your next road trip into an American history adventure.

Discover hidden local history, epic historic sites, battlefields, and maps with easy, one-click driving directions — history and travel right in the palm of your hand!

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🎙️ Talk with History is the #1 Road Trip podcast for History Travelers!

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Ever wondered what stories Route 66 carries beyond historic diners and neon road trip signs?

Discover the National Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum in Oklahoma City—a historic road trip treasure overlooked by most travelers. Scott and Jenn explore authentic frontier artifacts, frontier military history, and the real stories behind the American West, plus insider tips for making this a must-stop on your next historic travels.

A living history experience you won't find on Route 66 guides.

📍 Google Maps to the National Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum

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🗺️ Want to visit the places we talked about? We've mapped them all (and more) in History or Drive. 🗺️

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Discover hidden local history, epic historic sites, battlefields, and maps with easy, one-click driving directions — history and travel right in the palm of your hand!

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How did the press get the infamous photos of Bonnie and Clyde?

Follow hidden Route 66 history as Scott and Jenn investigate Bonnie and Clyde's real hideouts and discover lost photographs that reveal the gangsters' actual movements across America. We'll uncover the lesser-known stops along the Mother Road and share what historians found that changes the popular narrative.

📍 Google Maps to Bonnie and Clyde Hideout

📍 Google Maps to the Museum

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🗺️ Want to visit the places we talked about? We've mapped them all (and more) in History or Drive. 🗺️

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Discover hidden local history, epic historic sites, battlefields, and maps with easy, one-click driving directions — history and travel right in the palm of your hand!

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🎙️ Talk with History is the #1 Road Trip podcast for History Travelers!

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Why did westward expansion and Route 66 both point to St. Louis?

What’s it like to ride the cramped tram pods to the top of the Gateway Arch?

Scott and Jenn start their historic road trip exploring how the 1803 Louisiana Purchase doubled the U.S. They cover St. Louis’s French trading-post origins, key museum highlights in the Arch’s underground visitor center, the Arch’s design and construction timeline.

Don't miss the park facts, travel tips, and Carl’s Drive-In...giving you the perfect guide for your own road trip.

📍 Google Maps to the Arch

📍 Google Maps to Carls Drive-in on Route 66

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Discover hidden local history, epic historic sites, battlefields, and maps with easy, one-click driving directions — history and travel right in the palm of your hand!

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🎙️ Talk with History is the #1 Road Trip podcast for History Travelers!

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What really happened in Deadwood when Wild Bill Hickok was killed, and why is his death tied to a place that wasn’t even U.S. state territory?

Wild Bill Hickok's death in Deadwood remains one of the Old West's most disputed stories—but visiting the Black Hills gold-rush boomtown reveals the truth.

In this historic road trip episode, we trace Hickok's final journey from Fort Laramie and uncover why his grave sits in unincorporated territory.

Join us as we explore Deadwood's saloons, cemeteries, and how Wild Bill died on August 2, 1876.

🎥 Video fro Deadwood

📍 Google Maps to Deadwood

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Discover hidden local history, epic historic sites, battlefields, and maps with easy, one-click driving directions — history and travel right in the palm of your hand!

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🎙️ Talk with History is the #1 Road Trip podcast for History Travelers!

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Most have heard of America's "Mother Road" - Route 66. But do you know what you MUST see? Have you talked to anyone who has driven the whole thing?

Join Scott and historian Jenn as they share insider Route 66 history, must-see historic sites, and road trip tips from driving America's Mother Road. Discover hidden landmarks, fascinating stories, and practical advice for planning your own historic road trip along Route 66—plus what surprised even the experts.

📖 Route 66: The Mother Road: By Michael Wallis

🎙️ Art of Adventure podcast (Powell maps the Grand Canyon)

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Perfect for history lovers and adventurous travelers ready to plan their next journey.

Join Scott and Jenn as they unpack JD's epic 28-day road trip along the Lincoln Highway—a historic travels journey that delivered daily video drops and unforgettable stops.

Discover the planning strategies, historic landmarks, and insider tips that turned this road trip into a success story.

🎥 Video of the FULL Live Stream Conversation (The History Underground)

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Discover hidden local history, epic historic sites, battlefields, and maps with easy, one-click driving directions — history and travel right in the palm of your hand!

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Explore the hidden history of Lincoln's assassin on this historic road trip to Baltimore.

We visit Green Mount Cemetery to uncover the truth about John Wilkes Booth's secret grave, revealing mysteries historians still debate today.

Perfect for travelers seeking lesser-known Civil War sites and cemetery tourism experiences along your next East Coast journey.

📍 Visit Booth's Gravesite

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Discover hidden local history, epic historic sites, battlefields, and maps with easy, one-click driving directions — history and travel right in the palm of your hand!

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Discover why the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis is the ultimate military heritage road trip destination.

Scott, a 2004 Naval Academy graduate and Jenn (former Navy pilot) reveal the untold histories behind Memorial Hall, the Chapel, and the historic cemetery—plus insider tips for visiting this iconic American military landmark.

Perfect for history travelers planning East Coast adventures.

📍 Visit USNA and learn more

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🎥 Video from USNA

🎥Video from USNA Cemetery

🎥 Video of John Paul Jones Crypt

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Discover hidden local history, epic historic sites, battlefields, and maps with easy, one-click driving directions — history and travel right in the palm of your hand!

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Scott and Jenn Bennie review the historical drama “Young Washington” (dir. Josh Irwin), which portrays George Washington’s early career in the French and Indian War from Fort Necessity (1754) to the Braddock Expedition and Battle of the Monongahela (1755).

Jenn separates accurate events—Washington’s 1753 mission to Fort Le Boeuf, the Jumonville encounter, the French-language surrender at Fort Necessity, and Washington’s survival at Monongahela with two horses shot out—from invented or compressed elements such as a romantic Fairfax plotline and some character substitutions.

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Discover hidden local history, epic historic sites, battlefields, and maps with easy, one-click driving directions — history and travel right in the palm of your hand!

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Scott and Jenn share an “Ultimate 4th of July History Movie Guide,” each ranking five patriotic, history-leaning films and discussing what each gets right and wrong while separating history from Hollywood.

What are YOUR top 5 history movies for 4th of July?

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Discover hidden local history, epic historic sites, battlefields, and maps with easy, one-click driving directions — history and travel right in the palm of your hand!

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Civil War battlefield tourism gets a cinematic twist!

In this episode, screenwriter and lead actor Lee Wilson (General Earl Van Dorn) and actor David B. Meadows (Nathan Bedford Forrest) discuss The Legend of Van Dorn film, releasing in August of 2026.

Did you know that Van Dorn was the first General to defeat Ullysses S. Grant? Why doesn't history talk more about this brilliant military mind?

Join us as we talk all about the Legend of Van Dorn.

➡️ Out now on Amazon Prime Video

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🗺️ Want to visit the places we talked about? We've mapped them all (and more) in History or Drive. 🗺️

🚗 Download our History or Drive travel app

Turn your next road trip into an American history adventure.

Discover hidden local history, epic historic sites, battlefields, and maps with easy, one-click driving directions — history and travel right in the palm of your hand!

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🎙️ Talk with History is the #1 Road Trip podcast for History Travelers!

⭐ Enjoying the journey? Leave us a quick review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify to help other history and travel lovers find the show!

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