The Art of Volunteering

We are pleased to welcome Bertram L. Lawson II to the show today! Bertram has been volunteering since age 17 and working professionally with volunteers since age 25. He is a distinguished leader in nonprofit management, recognized for his extensive contributions to membership acquisition, talent development, community development, youth programs, and diversity initiatives. In July of 2023, Bertram assumed the role of President and Chief Executive Officer at the YMCA of Greater Brandywine (YGBW), marking a historic milestone as the organization’s first African American to lead this multimillion-dollar operation.

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com/
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva

YMCA of Greater Brandywine's Website - https://www.ymcagbw.org
YMCA of Greater Brandywine's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/YMCAofGreaterBrandywine
YMCA of Greater Brandywine's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@ymcagbw
YMCA of Greater Brandywine's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ymcagbw/
YMCA of Greater Brandywine's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/ymca-of-greater-brandywine
Bertram L. Lawson II's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bertram-l-lawson-ii-4167a662/

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We are pleased to be joined by Susan Sanow, CVA today! Susan is the Senior Manager, Volunteer Management Education at Volunteer Fairfax (Fairfax, Virginia). She leads the volunteer management educational programming including a portfolio of over twenty webinars, roundtables, community conversations and book clubs concentrating in developing volunteer engagement leaders. She has presented educational programs in the local area, statewide conferences and at national meetings. Thousands attend Susan’s webinars annually. Susan holds a B.S. in Consumer-Community Services from Michigan State University. In 2022, Susan was named an Exemplary Leader in Volunteer Engagement by the Association of Leaders in Volunteer Engagement (AL!VE).

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com/
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva

Brag Better: Master the Fearless Art of Self-Promotion by Meredith Fineman
Making Numbers Count: The Art and Science of Communicating Numbers by Chip Heath and Karla Starr

Volunteer Fairfax's Website - https://www.volunteerfairfax.org/
Volunteer Fairfax's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/volunteerfairfax/
Volunteer Fairfax's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/volunteer-fairfax
Susan Sanow, CVA's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/susansanow/

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Please welcome Leonard Rivera to the program! Leonard is a sole practitioner trial attorney with 35 years of experience representing people at some of the most difficult moments of their lives — whether they’re facing criminal charges, fighting for custody of their children, or going through a divorce. He's taken on major corporations like Walmart and Chick-fil-A when his clients were injured and needed someone willing to stand up for them. In court, Leonard advocates for individuals who are often overlooked or overwhelmed by the legal system, making sure they’re treated with dignity, their rights are protected, and their voices are heard. His work is about turning fear and uncertainty into clarity, strength, and justice.
Leonard currently serves as Chair of the Pennsylvania Commission for Fairness and Justice, where he works to advance equity and integrity within our legal system. He is also a founding member of the Chester County Latino Luncheon and Scholarship Organization, helping create pathways to higher education and professional opportunity for Latino students. His past leadership includes serving as President of the Longwood Rotary, supporting pro bono initiatives through the Chester County Bar Association’s Access to Justice program, and mentoring students through Wilmington University School of Law, The Garage Youth Mentoring Program, and West Chester University. Across each role, his focus has been on expanding access, empowering young people, and strengthening our community through service.

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva

Pennsylvania Commission for Fairness & Justice - https://www.pa-interbranchcommission.com

Leonard Rivera Law's Website - https://www.leonardriveralaw.com
Leonard Rivera's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/leonard-j-rivera-a27bb07

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Today we are joined by Hemang Desai! Hemang is the Co-founder and Treasurer of Ray of Hope International Foundation and the Global Head of Corporate Social Responsibility for SAP SE.
At work, Hemang leads CSR for SAP globally, and they enable various forms of employee volunteering worldwide. Last year, they logged over 110K hours of volunteering, which includes traditional, skills-based and pro bono volunteering. They love to embed volunteer leadership as a key learning and development mechanism for our employees - both in terms of leadership growth from being a volunteer leader, as well as from a skills development standpoint through our pro bono consulting and skills-based volunteering offerings.
Outside of work, Hemang is the co-founder of my nonprofit, Ray of Hope International Foundation, which is a primarily volunteer-driven organization. They run various fundraisers throughout the year and look to engage our community, including youth in our mission. These opportunities can be everything from helping at our events, to managing our social media, to coming up with new fundraiser ideas and leading them from start to finish.

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva

SAP Social Sabbatical - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6goZ_9AlkDw
How Organizations Measure the Real Impact of Social Enterprise Programs - https://www.60decibels.com/insights/how-organizations-measure-the-real-impact-of-social-enterprise-programs

Ray of Hope International Foundation's Website - https://www.letsgivehope.org
Ray of Hope International Foundation's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/rayofhopeintl
Ray of Hope International Foundation's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/rayofhopecharity
Ray of Hope International Foundation's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/ray-of-hope-international-foundation
Hemang Desai's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/hemang-desai-ba21194

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Joining us on this episode is Julia Kasper founder of Girls Spark, a youth-led nonprofit dedicated to empowering teen girls through leadership, connection, service, and meaningful conversations around the issues impacting their lives. Julia founded Girls Spark while still in high school and has remained involved in the organization’s growth, annual Summit, special projects, and strategic direction. With a background in public relations, marketing, communications, and program development, Julia now serves as Program Manager for Leadership Stark County, where she leads the Youth Leadership Academy and helps create leadership experiences for people across Stark County, Ohio. Her work is centered on helping young people find their voice, build confidence, connect with their communities, and see themselves as leaders.

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com/
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva

Girls Spark's Website - https://www.girlsspark.org/
Girls Spark's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/AllGirlsSpark/
Girls Spark's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/girls.spark/
Girls Spark's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/girls-spark/
Julia Kasper's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/julia-rose-kasper/

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Joining us today is Erin Berard! Erin is from Haverhill, MA, and is attending Lasell University for her bachelor's degree in Elementary Education. She is currently in her third year at Lasell and has been a part of Empty Bowls for all three years. In her time, she has held the roles of treasurer, vice president, and now president on the club's executive board. Erin's volunteering centers on the work she does to fight food insecurity. The Empty Bowls Club raises money for Centre Street Food Pantry in Newton, MA. She started a sponsorship program in the Fall 2025 semester, which has allowed the club to raise greater amounts faster. Erin is working to find new and creative ways to raise more money through the Empty Bowls Club to benefit the Centre Street Food Pantry and the greater Newton area!

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com/
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva

Lasell University Empty Bowls Club's website - https://laserinvolvement.lasell.edu/organization/lasell-college-empty-bowls-club
Lasell University Empty Bowls Club's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@lasellemptybowls1
Lasell University Empty Bowls Club's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/lasellemptybowls/
Erin Berard's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/erin-berard-3272a12b2/

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Please join us in welcoming Angela Williamson back to the podcast! Angela is a consultant and has 20 years experience as a volunteer engagement leader. Her volunteering journey began early in life picking up trash at the state fair in order to earn concert tickets along with numerous other volunteer roles.

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com/
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva

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Today we welcome Houston Goodwin to the conversation. Houston is the CEO of Better Impact, a volunteer management platform serving organizations that engage volunteers worldwide. He has spent his career operating software companies that make an impact in local communities. Outside of working with nonprofits with Better Impact, Houston is involved with several organizations locally in Winston Salem, North Carolina where he lives with his wife and son.

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva

Six ways people show up to serve. Which one is yours? - https://www.myimpactstyle.com/
Better Impact's Website - https://www.betterimpact.com/
Better Impact's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/better-impact-inc-/
Houston Goodwin's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/houstongoodwin

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Joining the conversation is Faiza Venzant, CVA. Faiza is the Executive Director of the Council for Certification in Volunteer Administration.
With over 25 years of leadership experience in volunteer engagement, she continues this work with a goal of centering community amongst the profession, improving equity and access to volunteerism and increasing diversity amongst professional leaders of volunteers. Faiza's work has been recognized with multiple awards for outstanding achievement and innovation in volunteer leadership most recently being awarded a Gold Anthem Award for her work on the Is Everything Welcome? toolkit. In 2018, Faiza published her first children’s book entitled, My Mamma Wants to Eat Me Up! As a mother of two young boys, she has not actually eaten any of her children.

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva

Is Everyone Welcome? Toolkit - https://www.idealist.org/en/orgs/is-everyone-welcome-toolkit
Council for Certification in Volunteer Administration's Website - https://www.cvacert.org
Council for Certification in Volunteer Administration's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/cvacert
Council for Certification in Volunteer Administration's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/cvacert
Faiza Venzant's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/faizavenzant

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Today we are joined by Dr. Eric Zillmer the Carl R. Pacifico Professor of Neuropsychology at Drexel University and Director of The Happiness Lab, a think tank that studies the psychological science behind happiness and well-being. Eric and his students investigate what contributes to joy in daily life. Through teaching, research, and public engagement, Dr. Zillmer uses evidence-based positive psychology to help individuals and communities understand and cultivate conditions that support a fulfilling life.

Additionally, Eric serves as President of the Philadelphia Classical Guitar Society, a nonprofit that organizes classical music events and music education in Philadelphia. He is on the board of US Squash, a national nonprofit governing body for the sport of squash in the United States. Dr. Zillmer also serves as a board member of the German Society of Pennsylvania, the nation’s oldest German-American cultural nonprofit based in Philadelphia. He has been involved in the Society’s Stiftungsfest celebration and leadership activities, including participating in committees that help advance its cultural and community programs.

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva

Engineering Happiness into our Daily Lives - https://whyy.org/episodes/engineering-happiness-into-our-daily-lives
Turn Happy Places and Memories into a Happy New Year - https://www.drexel.edu/news/archive/2025/December/turn-happy-places-and-memories-into-a-happy-new-year
Dr. Eric Zillmer's Drexel University - https://drexel.edu/coas/faculty-research/faculty-directory/psychology/zillmer-eric
Dr. Eric Zillmer's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-zillmer-364ab543/
Dr. Eric Zillmer's X - https://www.x.com/GoDragonsAD
Dr. Eric Zillmer's website - https://www.ericzillmer.com

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Joining our conversation today is Dan O'Brien, Director of Philanthropy and Impact at Bentley Systems. Dan has spent the past twenty-five years working across corporate, government and non-profit sectors, both domestically and internationally, specializing in building coalitions, finding solutions to challenges, and removing obstacles. His last two decades have been highlighted by managing a youth center in the Middle East at the height of the Iraq War as a Peace Corps volunteer, resettling and building communities for refugees and survivors of torture and trauma, building capacity in neighborhoods with high gun violence and ensuring food access in Kensington during the Covid pandemic. In his current role, Dan manages philanthropy and volunteering efforts for Bentley Systems focusing on four mission driven efforts: STEM programming, infrastructure, natural disaster relief, and community.
As a frequent volunteer, combined with experience creating and managing volunteer projects (with the City of Philadelphia and now with Bentley Systems), to making it his full-time job for more than two years as a Peace Corps volunteer, Dan has participated and celebrated all aspects of the volunteer cycle.

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva

Bentley Systems' website - https://www.bentley.com
CreateAccess' website - https://www.createaccess.org
New Leash on Life's website - https://www.newleashonlife.org
Dan O'Brien's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielobrienphl

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On today's episode, Stormy is joined by Jennifer Schoener and Mohammed Rahman.

Jennifer Schoener is a nonprofit leader, arts advocate, and community builder dedicated to expanding access to inclusive arts and education. She serves in a leadership role with the Upper Darby Arts & Education Foundation, where she helps guide programs that empower young people through music, creativity, and innovative learning experiences.

Mohammed Rahman is a freshman in Villanova University majoring in Electrical Engineering. Fueled by his passion for volunteering, Mohammed has joined and initiated a multitude of volunteering programs/clubs/services and efforts stemming from early on in his life. As a volunteer, he ensures the task at hand is executed efficiently with joy and passion. As a leader, Mohammed organizes volunteer meetings and opportunities, and lead/regulate services.

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva

Upper Darby Arts & Education Foundation's website - https://www.udfoundation.org
Upper Darby Arts & Education Foundation's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/UpperDarbyArtsEducationFoundation
Upper Darby Arts & Education Foundation's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/udaef
Upper Darby Arts & Education Foundation's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/upper-darby-arts-education-foundation
Jennifer Schoener's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferschoener
Mohammed Rahman's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohammed-rahman-469287395

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Joining us today is Heather Reiffer, Community Engagement Officer for America250 PA Chester County. Heather has spent most of her career in historic site administration and nonprofit management in Chester County. She's served as Executive Director at The Mill at Anselma National Historical Landmark in Chester Springs and Historic Sugartown in Malvern. More recently, she has consulted on the development of Chester County's Heritage Tourism Plan and other regional interpretation and preservation planning projects. Currently, Heather serves as one of Chester County Community Foundation's Community Engagement Officers to coordinate planning across Chester County for America's 250th celebration.

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com/
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva

Chester County Community Foundation's website - https://www.chescocf.org
America250 PA Chester Country's website - https://www.america250chesco.org
Dare to Declare: Declaration of Independence - https://www.cccf250.org/daretodeclare
Wish Walls - https://www.cccf250.org/wish-walls
Public Events Calendar for 250: Chester County - https://america250chesco.org/Events.cfm
Chester County Community Foundation's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/ChesCoCF
Chester County Community Foundation's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/chescocf
Chester County Community Foundation's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/chester-county-community-foundation
Heather Reiffer's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-reiffer-ba906a3b/

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The world’s most meaningful impact isn’t organized or counted, it’s ordinary people showing up in simple, profound ways. In today's episode Stormy shares how small acts of kindness are the true threads holding our communities together.

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva

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Thank you for another year of great conversations! We look forward to bringing you more volunteering stories!

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Today we are joined by Leslie Holt. Leslie is the Founder & Executive Director of A Child's Light and is a former Victims Advocate and Certified Trauma Specialist. Leslie is the force behind the success of ACL and is responsible for the Care Management of over 200 children receiving mental health treatment through A Child's Light which serves Chester County, PA.

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com/
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva

A Child's Light's website - https://www.childslight.com/
A Child's Light's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/lighthopehealing
A Child's Light's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/a.childslight
A Child's Light's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/a-child-s-light/
Leslie Holt's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/leslie-holt-53495b29/

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Joining us today is Marie Wenzel, MSW. Marie is the CEO of National Alliance on Mental Illness Delaware, where she leads programs and initiatives supporting individuals and families affected by mental health challenges. With extensive experience in nonprofit leadership, governance, and community engagement, Marie focuses on building innovative programs, strengthening volunteer networks, and fostering partnerships across the state. She is passionate about creating inclusive, impactful solutions that improve mental health awareness and access to care.

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva

NAMI Delaware's website - https://www.namidelaware.org
NAMI Delaware's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/namidelaware
NAMI Delaware's X - https://www.x.com/NAMIDelaware
NAMI Delaware's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/namidelaware1
NAMI Delaware's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/namidelaware
NAMI Delaware's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/nami-delaware
Marie Wenzel's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariewenzel

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Joining the conversation today is Sheila Rossi, Volunteer Director of Phoenixville Free Clinic. Sheila has been in the healthcare field for over 30 years. Her career began in the Rochester, NY area at a community hospital in the Finger Lakes where she worked with the strategic planning department of the hospital and Blue Cross Blue Shield to manage a joint health insurance product to bring lower cost health insurance to residents of the region. She later moved to Plymouth Meeting, PA, where she led a patient safety organization focused on collecting and analyzing hospital adverse events to improve patient care and safety. Most recently, she jumped at the opportunity to serve as Volunteer Director at the Phoenixville Free Clinic, where she recruits and supports the dedicated volunteers who care for the community’s uninsured and underinsured.

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com/
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva

Phoenixville Free Clinic's website - https://www.phoenixvillefreeclinic.org/
Phoenixville Free Clinic's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PhoenixvilleFreeClinic
Phoenixville Free Clinic's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/phoenixvillefreeclinic/
Phoenixville Free Clinic's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/phoenixvillefreeclinic/
Sheila Rossi's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheila-e-rossi/

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Today's episode, we are joined by Darya Sabocsik! Darya is a Coatesville Youth Initiative Ambassador and sits on the board of the Brandywine Valley Active Aging. We had a great conversation and hope you find value in it as much as we did.

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva

Coatesville Youth Initiative's website - https://www.coatesvilleyouthinitiative.org
Coatesville Youth Initiative's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/theCYI
Coatesville Youth Initiative's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/coatesvilleyouthinitiative
Brandywine Valley Active Aging's website - https://www.bvactiveaging.org
Brandywine Valley Active Aging's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/bvactiveaging

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In conversation today are Lynne Cohen and Allison Mafodda of the American Red Cross. Lynne is the Executive Director for the Delaware Valley Chapter and Allison the is Senior Volunteer Recruitment Specialist. Join us in learning more about these wonderful individuals and their passion for volunteerism.

Links for today's episode:
Angela Williamson's Volunteer Engagement Accelerator - https://www.angelawilliamsoncva.com/
Angela Williamson's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelawilliamsoncva/

American Red Cross Southeastern Pennsylvania Region's website - https://www.redcross.org/philly
American Red Cross Southeastern Pennsylvania Region's X - https://www.x.com/redcrossphilly
American Red Cross Southeastern Pennsylvania Region's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/redcrossphilly
American Red Cross Southeastern Pennsylvania Region's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/redcrossphilly/
American Red Cross Southeastern Pennsylvania Region's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/RedCrossPhilly
Lynn Cohen's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lynncohen4
Allison Mafodda's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/allison-mafodda-cva-0a9606318/

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