The Attractions Group Podcast

🎙️ BEHIND THE SCARE: Hersheypark Dark Nights — Master Planning, Immersive Design & The Business of Fear

What does it take to turn Sweet Town into a realm of pure terror? In this exclusive episode of The Attractions Group Podcast (Behind the Scare series), host David Detling sits down with two of the key creative and operational masterminds behind Hersheypark Dark Nights:

• 🎃 Brewer Lister – Managing Director of Immersive Experiences
• 🕷️ Chris Brown – Director of Planning & Design

Whether you’re a theme park professional, an event manager, a dark ride enthusiast, or a haunt fan, this deep-dive conversation delivers an unmissable look into how Hersheypark concepts, designs, and executes one of the Northeast’s premier fall events while balancing its iconic family-friendly daytime operations.

⏱️ EPISODE CHAPTERS & TIMESTAMPS

• Welcome to The Attractions Group Podcast & Episode Intro
• Introducing Brewer Lister & Chris Brown of Hersheypark
• Professional Backgrounds: From Landscape Architecture & Marketing to Theme Parks
• History of Fall Events at Hersheypark & the 2004 "Haunted Harvest" Experiment
• The 2021 Research Tour: Visiting Knott's Berry Farm, Universal, and SeaWorld
• The Three Rules of Engagement: No blood/guts, no ghosts of Milton Hershey, and no candy violence
• Executive Vision & Launching Dark Nights in 2022
• Partnering with Design Consultants (Epic Entertainment Group & Zeitgeist Design)
• Evolving to In-House Story Ideation & Long-Term Production Partners (Adirondack Studios & Illuminated Integration)
• The Annual Timeline: Post-event wrap-ups, March TransWorld purchasing, and summer builds
• The Day-to-Night Dichotomy: Balancing trick-or-treating with evening thrills
• Avenue of the Afterlife: Non-scary, high-energy street entertainment
• Passholder Lights-On Tours and the New "Meet and Shriek"
• Spotlight on "Kill & Fill": Designing the 1970s service station haunted house rooted in Hershey Estates history
• Culinary LTOs: Spirits Rooftop Patio, Tasting Passes, and Seasonal King-Size Shakes
• Favorite Aspects: Hay mazes, fog-soaked midways, and peak park energy
• The Chain Saw Debate: Finding the perfect spot in Haunted Coal Mine
• Unscripted Guest Reactions: The clipboard scare actor in the Fallout Zone
• What's New This Season: House updates and the Reese's Depot of Doom scare zone
• Christmas Candy Lane & Estate of Evil Holiday Open House
• Rapid Fire Questions: Coaster favorites, candy preferences, and final thoughts

🌐 Hersheypark OFFICIAL LINKS & SOCIAL MEDIA🎢

• Official Website: https://www.hersheypark.com/
• Dark Nights Info & Tickets: https://www.hersheypark.com/explore-the-park/drinks-dining/dark-nights.php
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Hersheypark
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hersheypark
• X (Twitter): https://x.com/hersheypark

🎙️ The Attractions Group Podcast

• Podcast Website: https://www.attractionsgroup.com/podcast
• YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@AttractionsGroup
• Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-attractions-group-podcast
• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/attractionsgroup
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/attractionsgroup
• X (Twitter): https://x.com/attractionsgrp

🏢 The Attractions Group

• Official Website: https://www.attractionsgroup.com/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-attractions-group
• Consulting & Inquiries: https://www.attractionsgroup.com/contact

🏷️ PODBEAN EPISODE TAGS

Hersheypark, Dark Nights, Hersheypark Dark Nights, Brewer Lister, Chris Brown, David Detling, The Attractions Group, The Attractions Group Podcast, Theme Park Design, Theme Park Operations, Theme Park Industry, Immersive Experiences, Haunted House Design, Haunt Operations, Seasonal Events, Halloween Haunt, Hershey PA, Roller Coasters, Theme Park News, IAAPA, Dark Ride Design, Guest Experience, Event Planning, Theme Park Logistics, Hersheypark Halloween

🎃 Holiday World’s Happy Halloween Weekends with Lauren Crosby | Gourd Behind the Scenes

In this episode of our 2026 Gourd Behind the Scenes series (recorded September 1st), hosts David Detling and Clete Reinberger welcome Lauren Crosby, 4th Generation Owner and Director of Entertainment and Events for Holiday World & Splashin' Safari in Santa Claus, Indiana!

Join us as Lauren shares an insider’s look into what goes into planning, designing, and executing Holiday World’s iconic Happy Halloween Weekends. From seasonal live entertainment and family-friendly event operations to carrying forward a cherished four-generation family park legacy, this is an episode you won't want to miss!

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS

• 00:00 – Intro & Welcome
• 01:30 – Interview: Lauren Crosby (4th Generation Owner & Director of Entertainment)
• 05:15 – The Legacy of Holiday World & Family Operations
• 12:40 – Designing & Executing Happy Halloween Weekends
• 22:10 – Live Entertainment, Shows, & Seasonal Guest Experience
• 34:00 – What’s Next for Holiday World & Splashin' Safari
• 42:15 – Wrap-Up & Closing Thoughts

🌐 CONNECT WITH HOLIDAY WORLD & SPLASHIN' SAFARI

• Website: https://www.holidayworld.com/
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HolidayWorld/
• Instagram: @holidayworld
• X (Twitter): @HolidayWorld
• YouTube: @HolidayWorldSplashinSafari

🎙️ CONNECT WITH THE ATTRACTIONS GROUP

• Website: https://www.theattractionsgroup.com/
• Attractions Network: attractions.network
• LinkedIn: The Attractions Group
• Facebook: facebook.com/theattractionsgroup

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🎃🎃 Gourd Behind the Scenes at Dollywood’s Great Pumpkin LumiNights! 🎃

Experience the ultimate fall family getaway at Dollywood’s Harvest Festival and the award-winning Great Pumpkin LumiNights in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee! Nestled in the heart of the Great Smoky Mountains, this world-renowned autumn celebration combines thrilling theme park adventures, wholesome family entertainment, and breathtaking seasonal beauty without the scary haunts.

Experience Autumn Magic at Dollywood
When the sun sets over the Smokies, Dollywood transforms into a glowing nighttime wonderland featuring more than 12,000 illuminated, hand-carved pumpkins. Stroll through immersive installations like the towering 40-foot Pumpkin Tree, the whimsical Hoot Owl Hollow, and Dolly’s giant glowing guitar. Explore colorful themed zones like Candy Corn Country and catch energetic family dance parties in Wildwood Grove.

By day, immerse yourself in traditional mountain heritage with world-class live entertainment featuring over 700 Southern gospel, country, and bluegrass performances. Watch master artisans in Craftsman's Valley showcase traditional Appalachian crafts, and take on world-class roller coasters—including Big Bear Mountain, Lightning Rod, and the all-new multi-sensory attraction, Nightflight Expedition.

Fall Flavors & Family Memories
Indulge in seasonal culinary creations with the Harvest Festival Tasting Pass! Satisfy your cravings with fall favorites, including:

Whether you’re planning a weekend retreat to a Smoky Mountain cabin or looking for the best kid-friendly Halloween events in East Tennessee, Dollywood offers an unforgettable autumn experience for every generation.

TOPIC TIMESTAMPS:
[00:20] Introduction & Welcome

[01:04] Nightflight Expedition & Technical Ride Updates
Discussion surrounding the opening, guest feedback, wait times, and the technical ride rehearsal phase for Dollywood's $60 million multi-sensory coaster, Nightflight Expedition.

[02:10] Honoring Dolly Parton's Legacy & Future Additions
Reflecting on Dolly Parton's passing, the emotional impact on the park team, and upcoming tribute projects scheduled for 2027—including a new waterfall near the Dr. Robert F. Thomas Chapel, custom stained-glass windows, a Show Street portal experience, and the "Dream Maker" character in Wildwood Grove.

[07:05] Dollywood Culinary Traditions & Cinnamon Bread
Highlighting park food favorites, Dolly’s personal culinary requests (such as ribs), her cookbooks, and the enduring popularity of Dollywood's famous cinnamon bread.

[08:18] Wes Ramey's Background & Journey to Dollywood
Wes shares his early career aspirations in motorsports (including an internship with NASCAR at Bristol Motor Speedway) and how a family visit to Dollywood 14 years ago inspired him to transition into his dream job.

[14:35] Harvest Festival & Great Pumpkin LumiNights Overview
The arrival of autumn in the Smokies, managing 12,000 real and artificial pumpkins, colossal 1,000-pound pumpkin weigh-offs, donating giant pumpkins to the Knoxville Zoo, and providing a family-friendly, non-scary evening alternative to traditional haunted houses.

[18:43] History and Scale of the Fall Festival
How the Harvest Festival evolved from a traditional Southern Gospel and crafts event into an internationally recognized fall destination featuring roughly 700 concerts and the launch of Great Pumpkin LumiNights in 2017.

[22:53] Regional Tourism & Planning Multi-Day Smoky Mountain Trips
Positioning Dollywood within Sevier County, Pigeon Forge, and Gatlinburg, and strategizing how guests can experience both the Harvest Festival and the transition into the Christmas season.

[26:34] Park Operations & The 5-Day Festival Switchover
Behind-the-scenes look at the all-hands-on-deck, Sunday-through-Thursday park closure where teams transition the park from 12,000 pumpkins to 6 million Christmas lights, complete with meticulous architectural lighting details.

[34:13] What's New at Great Pumpkin LumiNights
New evening dance parties in Wildwood Grove, the apple market near the Dollywood Express Depot, Harvey's Boo Bash, and returning fan favorites like the resident pumpkin carver.

[36:01] Fall Food Offerings & Tasting Pass
A deep-dive into autumn menus, including fried apple pies, caramel apples, skillet-cooked apples, the Harvest Festival tasting pass, barbecue chicken sweet potato bowls, and specialty drinks.

[38:45] Integrating Nightflight Expedition into the Fall Season
How Nightflight Expedition’s nighttime storytelling and bioluminescence theme complement the evening atmosphere of Great Pumpkin LumiNights.

[42:34] Rapid Fire Questionnaire

A lighthearted lightning round covering Wes's favorite season, Lightning Rod vs. Nightflight Expedition, carousels vs. ferris wheels, coffee preferences, pumpkin spice thoughts, favorite Dolly song ("Light of a Clear Blue Morning"), Halloween candy preferences, and summarizing the fall festival in three words ("fall family memories").

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Season 6, Episode 14-

• Gourd Behind the Scenes: Building the Ultimate Fall Tradition with Scott Bengsten
• How Bengsten’s Pumpkin Farm Scales Fall Family Fun | Gourd Behind the Scenes

Welcome to Gourd Behind the Scenes, a special sub-series from The Attractions Group Podcast where we go behind the curtain of top autumn destinations, agri-entertainment venues, and seasonal events!

In this episode, we sit down with Scott Bengsten, owner and operator of Bengsten’s Pumpkin Farm, one of the premier fall family destinations in the Midwest, based in Homer Glen, IL. Scott shares the secrets behind running a high-capacity seasonal operation, expanding family-friendly attractions year after year, and creating unforgettable traditions for hundreds of thousands of guests each autumn.

Whether you're an agri-tourism professional, attraction operator, or fall festival enthusiast, this deep dive offers invaluable insights into guest flow, attraction expansion, and seasonal event management.

🎙️ About The Attractions Group Podcast

The Attractions Group Podcast delivers executive interviews, industry news, and operational insights across themed entertainment, amusement parks, haunts, and seasonal attractions.

🔗 Follow & Subscribe:

• Bengstens Pumpkin Farm Website: https://www.pumpkinfarm.com/
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Pumpkinfarm
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bengtsonpumpkinfarm/

Join The Attractions Group on Gourd Behind the Scenes as Scott Bengsten reveals how Bengsten’s Pumpkin Farm creates top-tier fall family experiences.

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Season 6, Episode 013- this episode of the Attractions Group Podcast takes us behind the scenes to the insight behind the Lake Compounce Phantom Fall Fest.

We welcome Madison Burnes-Baker, Events & Entertainment Manager.

“Play all day... fright all night!” 👻🎃

In this exclusive episode of The Attractions Group Podcast, host David Detling sits down with Madison Burnes-Baker, Events & Entertainment Manager for Lake Compounce, to give you an insider look at the 2026 Phantom Fall Fest!

From family-friendly daytime trick-or-treating at the all-new Candy Corn Country to heart-pounding terror after 6 PM, discover what it takes to bring Connecticut’s premier Halloween event to life!

🔥 In this episode, you’ll learn:

- Behind-the-scenes secrets of designing the haunted houses & scare zones 🧟‍♂️
- What’s NEW for 2026 🎶
- How Lake Compounce balances family fun by day with extreme screams by night 🎃
- Nighttime coaster rides on Boulder Dash, Phobia Phear, and more in the dark!

Plus, David takes Madison through another lightning "Rapid-Fire" question round...

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Welcome to another episode of Behind the Scare, brought to you by the Attractions Group Podcast!

In this episode, host Clete Reinberger is joined by guest co-host Matthew Miller ("America's Theme Park Technologist") as they dive deep into the world of haunted attractions, themed entertainment, and seasonal event operations.

Our featured guest is Jordan Jones from Brimstone Haunt, recognized as Ohio’s premier scarepark located in Wilmington, Ohio.

In this episode, we discuss:

• The origin story and evolution of Brimstone Haunt in Wilmington, OH.
• High-level haunt building, scenic design, and creating immersive environments.
• Recruiting, training, and managing scare actors to deliver unforgettable screams.
• How modern technology and creative engineering drive today's haunted attractions.
• What’s on the horizon for Brimstone Haunt and the haunted house industry.

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Technical Note: Certain portions of this interview were subject to minor technology issues on the interviewee's end. This episode was edited as best as was available to preserve the valuable insights shared without re-taping the interview altogether. Thank you for your understanding!

⏱️ Episode Timestamps

• 00:00 – Welcome & Intro: Clete Reinberger & Matthew Miller
• 02:15 – Guest Spotlight: Jordan Jones (Brimstone Haunt)
• 06:40 – Overview of Brimstone Haunt in Wilmington, Ohio
• 12:30 – Haunt Design, Construction & Theme Building
• 21:10 – Scare Actor Management & Live Operations
• 28:45 – Haunt Technology Insights with Matthew Miller
• 36:20 – Future Outlook for Brimstone Haunt & Wrap-Up

🔗 Links & Resources

• Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCeVe8SiF80
• Explore Brimstone Haunt: Wilmington, Ohio’s Premier Scarepark
• Host Info: Clete Reinberger & Matthew Miller ("America's Theme Park Technologist")

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• Categories: Society & Culture | Leisure | Arts / Design
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Go Behind the Scenes of The Darkness with Haunt Industry Legend Larry Kirchner! 🎃
Why do some haunted houses terrify millions while others fail to make an impact? In this episode of The Attractions Group Podcast, host David Detling sits down with industry icon Larry Kirchner, creator of the world-famous The Darkness in St. Louis and owner of HauntWorld.

Whether you're a haunt operator looking to scale your attraction or a theme park fan who loves high-level creative design, Larry breaks down what it truly takes to build and maintain an industry-dominating haunt year after year.

📌 In This Episode, We Cover:

• The history, evolution, and immersive design philosophy behind The Darkness St. Louis.
• How high-budget animatronics, set dressing, and scare-actor placement create maximum throughput.
• The business and marketing strategies haunt operators need to succeed in today's industry.
• Behind-the-scenes insights from the founder of HauntWorld.com.

⏱️ Episode Timestamps

• 00:00 – Introduction & Welcome to the Fall 2026 Haunt Series
• 02:15 – Meet Larry Kirchner: The Father of Modern Haunted Houses
• 06:40 – The History & Evolution of The Darkness St. Louis
• 12:30 – High-Tech Animatronics vs. Actor-Driven Scares
• 18:10 – Designing High-Throughput Attractions Without Losing Immersion
• 24:50 – Marketing Your Haunt & Building the HauntWorld Empire
• 31:15 – Future Trends in the Theme Park & Haunted Attraction Industry
• 38:00 – Key Takeaways for Haunt Owners & Wrap-Up

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Season 6, Episode 009 of the Attractions Group Podcast "Behind the Scare" series takes us all the way to Portland, Oregon to the states largest Haunted Attraction: "Scare Grounds PDX at Oaks Park".

Flying solo again, David interviews Oaks Park Marketing & Events Director Emily MacKay and Alex Fulmor, Owner of Vendetta Productions (event, film, and audio production company located in the Portland, Oregon area).

Season 6, Episode 009 of the Attractions Group Podcast "Behind the Scare" series takes us all the way to Portland, Oregon to the states largest Haunted Attraction: "Scare Grounds PDX at Oaks Park".

Welcome to another episode of the Attractions Group Podcast: Behind the Scare Series! 🎃👻

In this episode, host David Detling sits down with Emily MacKay, Marketing & Events Director at Oaks Amusement Park, and Alex Fulmor, Owner of Vendetta Productions (producers of ScareGrounds PDX), to go behind the scenes of Portland’s ultimate Halloween experience!

Discover how a historical 1905 amusement park pivoted during pandemic restrictions to create a nationally recognized drive-thru haunted attraction—and how it evolved into the largest walkthrough scare park in Oregon! From creepy clowns and hillbilly cannibals to signature blood bag cocktails and night rides, learn what it takes to blend historic charm with modern frights.

⏱️ Episode Timestamps

• [00:00] - Introduction & Welcome: Guests from Oaks Amusement Park
• [02:09] - Emily MacKay’s 31-Year Journey at Oaks Park: From Competitive Skater to Marketing Director
• [04:25] - Alex Fulmor’s Background in Technical Theater & Film Set Dressing
• [05:04] - How Emily & Alex Met on Set and Pitched the ScareGrounds Concept
• [07:04] - Pioneering Oregon’s First Drive-Thru Haunted House During 2020
• [10:53] - Oaks Park’s Historic Legacy: Surviving 120+ Years, Floods, & Two Pandemics
• [12:35] - The "Scooby-Doo" Vibe: Leveraging Pacific Northwest Weather & Historic Backdrop
• [14:23] - Balancing the Show: Family-Friendly vs. Peak Haunted Nights
• [16:29] - Planning and Upgrading Attractions Year-Round
• [18:26] - Navigating Park Construction & Introducing Expanded "Inside Out" Scare Zones
• [19:28] - Crowd Favorites: CarnEVIL Clowns, Hillbillies, & Midway Characters
• [21:16] - Classic Guest Reactions: The "Wet Pants Count" & Actor Tactics
• [25:49] - Psychological Terror meets Physical Thrills: Rides after Dark
• [28:34] - Behind-the-Scenes Pre-Shift Rituals & Staff Costume Contests
• [32:40] - Fall Event Eats & Drinks: The Famous Signature "Blood Bag" Cocktails
• [35:46] - Rapid-Fire Halloween Q&A Session (Favorite Candies, Monsters, & Rides)
• [41:00] - Episode Wrap-Up & Final Remarks

🌐 Official Oaks Amusement Park Links & Social Media

• Website: Oakspark.com
• ScareGrounds PDX / Haunted Attractions: ScareGroundsPDX.com
• Facebook: facebook.com/oaksparkpdx
• Instagram: @oaksparkpdx
• TikTok: @oaksparkpdx
• Twitter / X: @oaksparkpdx

Join David Detling on the Attractions Group Podcast: Behind the Scare as he chats with Emily MacKay (Oaks Park) and Alex Fulmor (Vendetta Productions / ScareGrounds PDX) about creating Oregon's premier Halloween scare park at historic Oaks Amusement Park in Portland.

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🎃 Gourd Behind the Scenes at Kentucky Kingdom's Pumpkins Event! 🎃

In this episode of The Attractions Group Podcast, host David Detling sits down with Logan Sanderson, Marketing Director at Kentucky Kingdom, for an exclusive behind-the-scenes look at what it takes to bring the annual Pumpkins at Kentucky Kingdom autumn festival to life!

Discover the incredible logistics, creative vision, and operational magic required to transform Louisville's favorite theme park with thousands of glowing, carved, and giant pumpkin displays each fall season. Plus, get insider details on fall entertainment, family-friendly autumn night glow events, food and beverage treats, and what makes this Herschend Family Entertainment tradition a must-visit fall event in the Midwest!

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS & EPISODE CHAPTERS
[00:00:00] Introduction – Welcome to The Attractions Group Podcast with David Detling
[00:01:30] Welcome Logan Sanderson – Marketing Director at Kentucky Kingdom
[00:03:15] Behind the Gourd Concept – The evolution of Pumpkins at Kentucky Kingdom
[00:06:45] Logistics & Decor – Sourcing and setting up thousands of real and sculpted pumpkins
[00:10:20] Nighttime Glow Experience – Lighting up the park, rides, and giant pumpkin structures
[00:14:10] Fall Food, Drinks & Merchandise – Seasonal treats and specialty autumn menus
[00:18:00] Family Entertainment & Character Encounters – Live shows and kid-friendly fall fun
[00:21:45] Working Under Herschend Family Entertainment – Bringing world-class seasonal events to Louisville
[00:24:00] Closing Thoughts & Event Dates – Planning your visit to Pumpkins at Kentucky Kingdom

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Gourd Behind the Scenes: Six Flags Tricks & Treats & Boo Fest with Natalie Conte | The Attractions Group Podcast

Welcome back to another episode of Gourd Behind the Scenes on The Attractions Group Podcast! 🎃👻

In this episode, we sit down with Natalie Conte, Regional Director of Entertainment at Six Flags, to explore how the park chain brings its daytime family-friendly Halloween events to life across its national portfolio.

From Tricks and Treats to Boo Fest, Natalie breaks down:

- Her journey from park lifeguard to regional director overseeing entertainment across multiple parks.

- How Six Flags balances bright, kid-friendly daytime festivities with terrifying nighttime scares during Fright Fest.

- The operational logistics of handing out over 5 million pieces of candy each season.

- Harmonizing IPs like Looney Tunes and Peanuts under one unified event banner post-merger.

- Seasonal food, Oktoberfest offerings, rapid-fire fall questions, and much more!

🎟️ Plan your visit: Head to sixflags.com to check event schedules, trick-or-treat trails, and season pass options for your local park.

⏱️ Timestamps & Topic Chapters
[00:00] - Introduction & Welcome Back to Natalie Conte
[01:00] - Natalie's Career Journey: From Lifeguard to Regional Director
[05:00] - Theme Park Industry Culture & Camaraderie
[06:45] - Balancing Daytime Family Events vs. Nighttime Haunts
[08:40] - How Parks Transition at Dusk: Flipping the Switch
[11:30] - Managing Scares, No-Boo Options & Family Zones
[12:15] - Fun Daytime Attractions: Phantom Foam Pit & Family Activities
[13:53] - Tricks & Treats vs. Boo Fest: Merging Cedar Fair & Six Flags Events
[15:00] - The Logistics of 5 Million+ Pieces of Candy
[16:32] - Operational Integration Post-Merger
[18:38] - Character IPs: Looney Tunes vs. Peanuts across Parks
[24:19] - Developing Original In-House Characters (Spectral Sisters & Tinker)
[28:18] - Setup Timelines: From Summer Operations to Fall Decor
[32:05] - Fall Food & Beverage: Oktoberfest, Pumpkin Treats & Festival Dining
[34:54] - Creative Development Timeline for New Events
[36:20] - Rapid-Fire Halloween & Fall Q&A with Natalie
[43:35] - Closing Thoughts & Six Flags Season Passes

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In this episode of The Attractions Group Podcast Fall Series: "Behind the Scare," co-hosts Clete Reinberger and David Detling sit down with Bud Stross, co-owner of the world-famous Dent Schoolhouse in Cincinnati, Ohio.

Discover what it takes to build, operate, and continuously innovate one of America’s top-ranked haunted attractions. Bud shares behind-the-scenes insights into haunted house operations, immersive haunt design, scare actor training, creative set builds, and the business strategies that turn legendary local folklore into an iconic Halloween destination.

⏱️ Episode Timestamps:

• 00:00:37 - Introduction: Welcome to Season 2 of Behind the Scare with co-hosts Clete Reinberger and David Detling, featuring guest Bud Stross, co-owner of The Dent Schoolhouse.
• 00:01:52 - The Origin & History of The Dent Schoolhouse: Bud shares the legend of the murderous janitor Charlie, the schoolhouse's origins (built in 1894), and its evolution over 30 seasons of operation.
• 00:03:12 - From Boy Scouts to Professional Haunt: How The Dent Schoolhouse transitioned from a 1990s Boy Scout haunted house into a premier, high-tech haunted attraction with aerial scares and projection mapping.
• 00:04:33 - Iconic Q-Line Characters: Bud breaks down their lineup of signature roaming actors—Charlie the Janitor, Lady in White, The School Marm, Pumpkin, Zobo the Clown, and the new 30th-season character, Mr. Shady.
• 00:06:27 - Operating Schedule & Seasonal Staffing: Operating dates for the season and managing a seasonal payroll of 150–200 employees across actors, ticketing, parking, concessions, and security.
• 00:07:31 - Deep Dive: The Legend of Charlie the Janitor: Analyzing Charlie’s backstory, his pipe wrench weapon of choice, and why guests love to fear him in the queue line.
• 00:10:32 - Bud’s Path into the Haunt Industry: Starting with a childhood latex mask from K-Mart, building a massive neighborhood yard haunt with 15+ actors, and joining forces with business partner Josh.
• 00:13:56 - Shadowing & Learning the Business: Transitioning from yard haunting to commercial ownership by job shadowing the Boy Scouts during their final operating season.
• 00:15:21 - Actor Training & Room-Reading Techniques: Training scare actors to stay in character, avoid cliché lines, read different guest groups, and deliver multi-layered scares.
• 00:18:04 - Can a Haunt Owner Still Get Scared?: Bud reflects on how knowing haunt mechanics changes the walkthrough experience and what it takes to still startle an industry veteran.
• 00:19:09 - Emergency Exits & Guest Safety: Protocol for handling overwhelmed guests, utilizing backstage exits, and guiding scared guests to the Monster Midway.
• 00:20:48 - Timed Ticketing & Throughput Logistics: How timed ticketing improves queue management and guest pacing without losing the excitement of waiting in line.
• 00:22:19 - Walkthrough Duration & The 12-Foot Suds Foam Maze: The average 30-minute attraction runtime and the optional giant foam/bubble maze exit experience.
• 00:23:18 - National & International Guest Reach: Guests traveling from across all 50 states and international fans flying in from Ireland specifically to visit The Dent Schoolhouse.
• 00:25:35 - The Classic Haunt Trope: Chainsaws: Trying (and failing) to replace chainsaws at the end of the haunt, and why the sound and smell of a chainsaw remain unmatched for scare factor.
• 00:29:45 - Optimal Group Sizes & Operational Adjustments: Ideal group sizes (4 to 8 guests) for maximum scare impact and how operations adjust for high-capacity Saturdays in October.
• 00:31:36 - Favorite Guest Stories & Queue Line Pranks: Hearing the first scream of the season from the office and pulling a parking lot prank on a sleeping guest using an oo-gah horn and clowns.
• 00:34:45 - What's New for the 30th Season: Audio overhauls, new basement scenes expanding Charlie’s lore, upgraded Monster Midway photo-ops, and the new Pumpkin Smashers game.
• 00:37:08 - Closing Remarks & Website Info

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Don Helbig returns to The Attractions Group Podcast! In this special Behind the Scare episode (Season 6, Episode 005), host David Detling sits down with theme park industry veteran and former podcast co-host Don Helbig.

Together, they dive deep into what truly makes a Fall event or Halloween Haunt experience successful. From the storytelling and immersive decor of Dollywood’s Harvest Festival and Busch Gardens, to the introduction of major intellectual properties (IPs) like The Conjuring and Friday the 13th at Cedar Fair and Six Flags parks, Don breaks down the operational, marketing, and culinary strategies that keep guests coming back year after year. Plus, Don shares behind-the-scenes stories from when the TV show Ghost Hunters investigated Kings Island, and tackles 7 rapid-fire questions!

Episode Timestamps

• [00:16] – Welcome Back: Don Helbig returns to the podcast!
• [03:15] – Don’s industry background & his work with Tower Topics and Theme Parks by Don
• [05:50] – Tracking 1,000+ Kings Island visits before spreadsheets existed
• [09:25] – Comparing Fall events: Busch Gardens, Dollywood, Cedar Point & Kings Island
• [12:55] – Theme park fall food & specialty treats (and the legendary Cinnamon Bread!)
• [18:23] – Bringing IPs (Friday the 13th, The Conjuring) into regional Halloween Haunts
• [23:50] – Inside the Ghost Hunters investigation at Kings Island
• [28:40] – Why theme parks feel naturally eerie during the Fall season
• [31:30] – Don’s Fall 2026 travel lineup (Holiday World, Cedar Point, Great America)
• [32:45] – Rapid Fire Questions: Halloween vs. Christmas, Beast vs. Racer, IPs vs. Originals!

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• Website: Theme Parks by Don- https://themeparksbydon.com/
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Step inside the magic of Silver Dollar City’s iconic Harvest Festival! In this episode of the Gourd Behind the Scenes series (Fall 2026), host David Detling sits down with Brandei Clifton (Publicity Director) and Maddie from Silver Dollar City to talk all things autumn in the Ozarks.

Discover the rich history of Herschend Family Entertainment, how Silver Dollar City transforms from summer to fall, the secret 18-page "Pumpkin Bible," 20,000+ glowing pumpkins, giant 1,000lb gourds, visiting master craftsmen, and family-friendly illuminated nights!

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Episode Breakdown & Timestamps:

• [00:10] Introduction — Host David introduces the episode as part of the Gourd Behind the Scenes series
• [00:45] Guest Introductions & Backgrounds — Meet Brandy and Maddie from Silver Dollar City's publicity team as they share their personal histories and lifelong connection to the par
• 03:04] History of Silver Dollar City & Herschend Family — A look back at how Marvel Cave inspired the creation of Silver Dollar City and laid the foundation for Herschend Family Entertainment
• [04:49] Branson & Silver Dollar City's Tourism Impact — Discussing Silver Dollar City's role as a primary tourism driver in Branson, Missouri, drawing visitors nationwide
• [07:31] Overview of the Harvest Festival & Artisans — Highlights of the festival, featuring over 70 visiting craftsmen alongside resident artisans
• [07:58] Pumpkins in the Park & Family-Friendly Atmosphere — Details on the 20,000 glowing foam and real pumpkins, giant sculptures, and non-scary, family-focused autumn experiences
• [09:06] The Garden of Giants & Pumpkin Logistics — How five semi-trucks deliver massive 1,000-pound pumpkins, and the setup routine guided by the park's "Pumpkin Bible" -
• [10:35] Park Transformation & Seasonal Transitions — A behind-the-scenes look at how Silver Dollar City rapidly transitions between seasons, from Southern Gospel Picnic to Harvest Festival and Christmas
• [11:41] 50+ Year History of the Fall Festival — How Mother Mary Herschend started the craft festival, featuring legendary artisans like 109-year-old fiddle maker Violet Hensley
• [12:25] Fall Festival vs. Old Time Christmas — Comparing the atmosphere and scale of the autumn event to the park’s massive Christmas celebration
• [15:08] Fall Culinary Offerings & Tasting Tickets — Exploring unique autumn food items (pumpkin chili, savory pumpkin corn dogs, sausage skillets) and how tasting tickets work -
• [16:53] Employee Culture & Unbelievable Retention — Discussion on long-tenured employees (citizens), 50-year service milestones, and iconic figures like Miss Shirley and Terry Wayne Sanders
• [22:15] The Frisco Silver Dollar Line Steam Train — History of one of the park's original attractions, including the famous train robbery comedy routine and seasonal adaptations
• [24:55] Coasters, Dark Rides, & Marvel Cave Bats — Nighttime roller coaster rides through the Ozark Mountains and the natural bat populations living around Marvel Cave
• [31:13] What’s Next: Christmas Debut Preview — A preview of the upcoming Wonderland of Lights / Star Light Christmas Nights parade and seasonal entertainment
• [34:33] Behind-the-Scenes Traditions & Easter Eggs — Hidden details inside the park, including the 14 hidden mouse-carved pumpkins and post-festival pumpkin composting
• [36:30] Wrap-up & Closing Remarks — Final thoughts and closing conversation

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In this episode of Behind the Scare on the Attractions Group Podcast, host David Detling interviews Tim Nealon, the Founder and CEO of Ghost City Tours.

From his unexpected beginnings building early-2000s websites as a whitewater rafting guide to building the world’s largest ghost tour company—serving over 700,000 guests annually across nearly 60 markets—Tim shares the fascinating journey behind Ghost City Tours.

He emphasizes Ghost City Tours' core philosophy: anchoring tour scripts in rigorous historical research and local folklore rather than manufactured jump scares or cheap gimmicks.

Throughout the discussion, Tim shares insights into scaling operations across dozens of markets using proprietary software, navigating team/guide quality control, investigating famous haunted locations (like Old South Pittsburgh Hospital and the Lalaurie Mansion), and expanding the business into dynamic media projects including podcasts, television, and Bigfoot/Bayou documentaries.

Discover how Tim Nealon turned a web design background into Ghost City Tours, building a nationwide empire running historically accurate, non-gimmicky ghost tours across 60 cities.

In this in-depth interview, Tim breaks down:

• How he transitioned from turnkey web design and software engineering to full-time tour operations.
• The development of Casper, Ghost City’s proprietary internal software platform powering back-office management for 560+ employees and 470+ tour guides.
• The balance between historical research, local folklore, and psychological storytelling.
• Personal, unexplained encounters with the paranormal at locations like Savannah’s Husk Restaurant and the Old South Pittsburgh Hospital.
• Ghost City's expansion into original media, including upcoming television projects with Jack Osbourne, Bigfoot documentaries in Oregon, and Louisiana bayou folklore preservation.

⏱️ Timestamps

• [00:00] - Introduction & Episode Overview
• [01:10] - Welcome Tim Nealon, Founder & CEO of Ghost City Tours
• [02:18] - From Whitewater Rafting to Web Design: Tim’s Early Career
• [03:40] - Founding Ghost City Tours in 2012 & Transitioning Out of Web Development
• [05:25] - The Business Advice & Exit Strategy That Handed Tim His Freedom
• [07:20] - Building "Casper": Ghost City's Custom Management & Logistics Software
• [10:52] - Starting in Savannah: The Unexpected First Month & Explosive Growth
• [12:40] - Media Expansion: Working with Jack Osbourne & Cliff Barackman (Bigfoot)
• [14:12] - Scaling Out: Moving Operations to New Orleans & Charleston
• [15:25] - Managing 60 Cities, 210+ Active Tours, and 12,000 Guests a Night
• [16:30] - The Research Process: Fact-Checking Folklore vs. Google Myths (Lalaurie Mansion)
• [18:35] - Balancing Historical Accuracy & Local Legends (The Casket Girls of New Orleans)
• [20:35] - Quality Control Across 475+ Tour Guides: Hiring Acting Coaches over Guides
• [23:20] - Uncovering Forgotten History: How Stories Evolve Over Time
• [25:14] - Favorite Historical Locations: Gettysburg & The Sacred History of Battlefields
• [27:00] - Emotional Paranormal Encounters: Child EVPs at Savannah's Husk Building
• [28:20] - Skeptics, Believers, and What Ghost Tours Are Really Trying to Accomplish
• [29:45] - David Detling's Personal Unexplained Encounter on a Dark Country Road
• [31:25] - Haunted Attractions vs. Ghost Tours: Jump Scares vs. Psychological Storytelling
• [35:38] - Charleston's Haunted History: Fort Sumter, The Powder Magazine, & Circular Church
• [39:07] - Nashville's Dark Past: Civil War History, Mobsters, & Broadway Brothels
• [40:15] - 14 Days at Old South Pittsburgh Hospital: Physical Paranormal Activity
• [43:00] - Do Ghosts Remember You? Interactive Entities & Theories of Consciousness
• [46:30] - Future Endeavors: New Markets, Media Projects, and Bayou Storytellers Documentary
• [50:20] - Staying Motivated at the Top of the Tour Industry & Closing Remarks

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• Website: https://ghostcitytours.com/

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Welcome to the special prequel episode of our seasonal favorite: Behind the Scare and Gourd Behind the Scenes! 👻🍁 Join Clete and David as they kick off the fall season, share what goes into planning theme park haunts and harvest festivals, and give a teaser of all the amazing guests lined up this year!

From world-famous haunted attractions like The Dent Schoolhouse and Brimstone Haunt to ghost tour operators like Ghost City Tours and major theme parks like Holiday World, Dollywood, and Silver Dollar City, this season is packed with insider stories you won't want to miss.

Plus: Stay tuned as Clete shares a "totally true" (and completely made-up) Orlando ghost story, while David shares a real late-night encounter on a foggy road from 36 years ago.

👇 Drop a comment below with YOUR favorite real-life ghost story! (No made-up ones unless you're Clete!)

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Timestamps

• [00:00] Intro & Theme Song Origin Story (Feat. David's Cat)
• [00:48] Fall Season Hype & Spooky Season Atmosphere in Orlando
• [02:18] What is Behind the Scare & Gourd Behind the Scenes?
• [03:41] Who Came Up with "Gourd Behind the Scenes"?
• [04:28] The Legend of "Be Late for Something Day" & Episode Prep
• [05:25] Scaling Up: 2026 Season Lineup & Haunt Production Timelines
• [06:49] Highlighting Local Haunts: Brimstone Haunt & The Dent Schoolhouse
• [08:48] Theme Park Haunts & Ghost City Tours Across 60 Cities
• [10:22] Clete's "Orlando Ghost Story" (Bag of Cotton Balls)
• [14:45] David's Real-Life Encounter: The Mysterious Figure on the Road
• [19:26] Full Guest Roster Sneak Peek & Closing Thoughts

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In Season 6, Episode 002 of The Attractions Group Podcast, hosts David Detling and Clete Reinberger dive deep into a post-mortem breakdown of ArieForce One following the unexpected closure of Fun Spot America Atlanta.

As one of Rocky Mountain Construction’s (RMC) premier hybrid thrill machines, ArieForce One’s sudden shutdown leaves a massive question mark over the amusement park industry: What happens next to elite, world-class coasters when regional parks close? David and Clete dissect the operational mechanics, financial realities of operating extreme roller coasters in competitive metropolitan markets, and potential relocation destinations where ArieForce One could fly next!

Whether you are a hardcore coaster enthusiast, a theme park industry operator, or love in-depth amusement park news, join us for this complete analysis.

⏱️ Timestamps 00:00

• Introduction & Post-Mortem Overview 05:15
• The Closure of Fun Spot Atlanta: What Went Wrong? 14:30
• Analyzing ArieForce One’s Design & RMC Legacy 23:10
• The Financial & Operational Challenges of Regional Parks 35:45
• Relocation Speculation: Where Could ArieForce One Fly Next? 48:20
• Fan Theories, Industry Impact & Final Thoughts

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The Attractions Group Podcast is BACK!

After an unintentional 6-to-7-week summer hiatus, David Detling and Clete Reinberger catch up on a massive season of theme park travels, coaster marathons, and wild park experiences. David checks in with a whopping 12-park run across the country, including: Kings Island, Cedar Point, Dollywood, Universal's Epic Universe, Magic Kingdom, Hollywood Studios, EPCOT, Knott’s Berry Farm, Great Wolf Lodge (Anaheim), Disneyland, California's Adventure, and Pacific Park in Santa Monica.... more to come!

Plus, Clete and David break down their favorite roller coaster rides of the year, including Gold Striker at California's Great America, Texas Stingray at SeaWorld San Antonio, and Ice Breaker at SeaWorld Orlando.

The duo also shares wild stories from the road, including a firsthand look at Cedar Point's Breakers Hotel, testing limits on new thrill rides, and an extraordinary moment where a Top Thrill 2 test train got stuck directly at the apex of the top hat (during a test run) — leading to maintenance staff physically poking the train to trigger a descent! Whether you're a seasoned coaster enthusiast, an industry operator, or just love theme park banter, dive into this epic summer catch-up episode!

** Podcast Topic Breakdown & Timestamps

• Introduction & Catching Up

• [00:13] David and Clete kick off Season 6 after a six-week summer break, highlighting recent industry headlines like new park openings, coaster announcements, and major ride closures.

• David’s 11-Park Summer Marathon

• [01:20] David shares his massive park itinerary across the US (Kings Island, Cedar Point, Knott's Berry Farm, Pacific Park, Disneyland, Disney's California Adventure, Magic Kingdom, Epcot, Epic Universe previews, Hollywood Studios, and Dollywood). He also reflects on getting back on roller coasters following an injury.

• Clete’s Summer Recap & Texas Stingray Praise

• [04:03] Clete reviews his visits to Knott's Berry Farm, Nickelodeon Universe, and the HITEC convention in San Antonio. He delivers high praise for GCI's Texas Stingray at SeaWorld San Antonio and Gold Striker at California's Great America.

• Roller Coasters of the Year Choices

• [07:19] Clete crowns Gold Striker and Premier Rides' Ice Breaker at SeaWorld Orlando as his top rides of the year, highlighting Premier Rides' smooth engineering and ejector airtime.

• Cedar Point, Top Thrill 2 Rollbacks & Valleyed Trains

• [10:13] David names Stardust Racers at Epic Universe as a top contender, then explains why he avoids Top Thrill 2. He recounts a wild story from the Hotel Breakers showing park maintenance manually poking a valleyed test train off the top hat.

• Dollywood Media Event: NightFlight Expedition

• [12:34] David shares exclusive insights from attending the media preview for Dollywood's NightFlight Expedition, detailing the phone lockups, real-time effects programming, and how the ride merges water rapid elements with coaster thrill.

• The Value of Custom vs. Cloned Attractions

• [17:43] A deep-dive debate on whether regional and destination parks (like Dollywood vs. Kings Island or Disney) need 100% custom, unique rides to drive attendance or if off-the-shelf models still do the job for general guests.

• Bakonawa & Mack Rides Extreme Spinners

• [25:58] The hosts react to the announcement of Six Flags Great Adventure’s Bakonawa (a 363-foot Mack Rides extreme spinning shuttle coaster replacing Kingda Ka). Clete breaks down the mechanics and potential roll-back/helix speed challenges.

• ArieForce One Relocation Speculation & Wrap-Up

• [31:11] Clete and David discuss rumors around the closure and relocation of ArieForce One, tease upcoming Halloween coverage (Behind the Scare), and close out the episode.

Join the Conversation & Leave Your Thoughts:

• Is Gold Striker still the undisputed king of GCI wooden coasters, or does Texas Stingray take the crown?
• Would you ride Top Thrill 2 after seeing a train get stuck at the 420-foot peak, or is that an instant 'NOPE' for you?
• How many theme parks have you managed to hit so far this year?

Join David Detling and Clete Reinberger on The Attractions Group Podcast as they recap an 11-park summer marathon, review Gold Striker and Ice Breaker, and share crazy Cedar Point Top Thrill 2 stories!

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Is the summer heatwave driving you crazy, or is it just the roller coaster news cycle heating up? In today's episode, David and Clete dive deep into a wild viral coaster marathon, break down a massive new ride announcement from a beloved theme park, and react to the shocking, bittersweet closure of a major regional park.

From 1988 heatwaves and the legend of HVAC savior Willis Carrier to the future of elite RMC roller coasters, this episode covers the highest highs and lowest lows of the amusement park industry.

👇 Check out the breakdown below!

EPISODE BREAKDOWN

Summer Heatwaves & Climate Preferences.

David and Clete kick off the chat discussing the intense July heat. David reminisces about his freshman year of high school in 1988—the summer his cousin "accidentally" broke his collarbone—which coincided with a historic Ohio heatwave featuring eight consecutive days over 100°F. The two compare their indoor climate preferences: David enjoys a controlled 70°F basement with 42% humidity, while Clete keeps his space at a brisk 65°F to 66°F alongside a dehumidifier.

HVAC Trivia: The Legend of Willis Carrier.

David highlights his ultimate hero, Willis Carrier, who famously invented the modern air conditioner. They note that Carrier also invented the dehumidifier, which they agree is scientifically the more complex and crucial component of true climate control. Bonus: Mr. Carrier ALSO invented the dehumidifier. An Exacta of Genius!

Jason Labaran’s Epic Coaster Marathon.

Clete shares a massive viral post from a roller coaster enthusiast group written by Jason Labaran, who happens to be Clete's current musical theatre castmate. Jason completed a mind-boggling 2.5-month trip hit every single Six Flags and Cedar Fair park, traveled through 49 states, and took an Alaskan cruise. Despite riding the country's biggest coasters, Jason’s primary takeaway was a newfound appreciation for how incredible GCI (Great Coasters International) wooden coasters are—specifically praising Texas Stingray, Mystic Timbers, and Renegade.

Holiday World's New Coaster Announcement

The hosts dive into Holiday World's pun-heavy, dive-competition-themed announcement video for their brand-new addition. Positioned right across the walkway from Splashin' Safari, this new addition marks Holiday World's 7th roller coaster, solidifying their reputation for unique, highly themed, and well-maintained rides.

The Sad Closure of Fun Spot Atlanta

On a heavier note, the duo reacts to the official press release confirming the closure of Fun Spot Atlanta. Clete expresses shock and sadness, noting that despite the park's strong history with group sales and local events, competing in a major metropolitan market ultimately proved too daunting. They praise the park's staff and pivot to the big question on every enthusiast's mind: what will happen to their critically acclaimed Rocky Mountain Construction coaster, AerieForce One?

Other Parks that have gone before.

Clete and David dive into the business environment that brought closures of several parks since.... well, Clete was born. No Geauga Lake... this park is referenced a lot; maybe a comment or two, but nothing that hasn't already been discussed AT LENGTH by others... Six Flags New Orleans (Jazzland), Six Flags America, California's Great America (coming soon...), and others that have shared a similar fate. In a future episode, we'll dive into the post mortem of the Myrtle Beach Hard Rock / Freestyle Park and Nashville's Opryland.

JOIN THE CONVERSATION

What do you think will happen to AerieForce One?

Where should this elite RMC hybrid coaster be relocated?

And are you excited about Holiday World’s brand-new themed addition?

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In this episode of the podcast, Clete and David are back after a brief recording hiatus to catch up on a packed summer of theme park travel, industry tech, and major coaster news! From a multi-park trip through Northern California to checking out the latest hospitality tech in San Antonio, there is plenty to dive into. Plus, a deep dive into the massive industry news regarding Bolliger & Mabillard (B&M) shifting away from their longtime steel fabricator.

What We Cover in This Episode

• Summer Coaster Trips: A firsthand review of California's Great America, including why Gold Striker still reigns supreme as one of the absolute best GCI wooden coasters.
• Park Operations & Line Jumping: A look at how park security handled a major line-jumping incident during peak school-field-trip season.
• Northern California & Texas Highlights: Thoughts on Sidewinder Safari at Six Flags Discovery Kingdom, Texas Stingray at SeaWorld San Antonio, and a ride on the new-for-2026 B&M inverted coaster, Barracuda Strike.
• HITEC 2026 San Antonio: Key takeaways from the Hospitality Technology Exposition and Conference (HITEC). We discuss how backend tech like property management systems and Chargerback lost-and-found software directly impact the theme park guest experience.
• Major Industry News: Breaking down the recent announcement that B&M is cutting ties with Clermont Steel Fabricators, what this means for the infamous "B&M rattle" on newer models like Penguin Trek, and where fabrication might move next.

• Episode Timestamps
00:00 – Introduction & The Summer Hiatus Recap: The guys catch up after a brief recording break, sharing initial thoughts on a packed summer of travel, theme park operations, and industry shifts.
• 03:15 – Northern California Trip Report: A deep dive into California's Great America. Discussion includes park operations during peak school-field-trip season, a major line-jumping incident handled by security, and why Gold Striker remains a top-tier GCI wooden coaster.
• 15:45 – Six Flags Discovery Kingdom & Texas Swing: Transitioning over to Six Flags Discovery Kingdom to look at Sidewinder Safari, followed by a quick trip to San Antonio to review SeaWorld's Texas Stingray and the brand-new 2026 B&M inverted coaster, Barracuda Strike.
• 28:10 – Hospitality Tech at HITEC 2026: Key takeaways from the Hospitality Technology Exposition and Conference (HITEC) in San Antonio. Exploring how backend tech—like advanced property management systems and Chargerback lost-and-found tracking—seamlessly shapes the guest experience at modern theme park resorts.
• 42:30 – B&M & Clermont Steel Fabricators Split: Breaking down the massive industry news of Bolliger & Mabillard ending their longtime partnership with Clermont Steel Fabricators. The guys discuss the implications for future ride manufacturing, track quality, and the infamous "B&M rattle" noted on recent models like Penguin Trek.
• 57:15 – Wrap-Up & What’s Next: A preview of the upcoming Substack article—a comprehensive theme park operator's guide to HITEC 2026—and closing thoughts.

Join the Attractions Group Podcast as we recap a massive summer of coaster travel and industry-shaking news! We review Gold Striker, Texas Stingray, and the new Barracuda Strike, talk hospitality tech trends from HITEC 2026, and break down what B&M cutting ties with Clermont Steel Fabricators means for the future of roller coaster engineering.

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Season 5, Episode 038

Sondra Shannon on Frankenstein Tech, the Dynamic Pricing Debate, and Gamifying the Guest Journey

Are your attraction's systems working together, or are they quietly costing you millions? In this episode of The Attractions Group Podcast, hosts David Detling and Clete Reinberger sit down face-to-face at the IAAPA Global Headquarters in Orlando with Sondra Shannon, CEO of Gatemaster Technologies and host of the "LIVE with Sondra" podcast.

Sondra shares her incredible journey from managing a Southern California laser tag facility at 19 years old to becoming the CEO of a premier attractions software company. Together, the trio dives deep into the operational friction points that ruin the guest experience, the real business numbers behind "Frankenstein" tech stacks, and why value-added packaging beats corporate dynamic pricing every single time.

Whether you operate a local family entertainment center, a multi-acre water park, a museum, or a zoo, this episode is a masterclass in scaling your operations, using data ethically, and building long-term guest loyalty.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

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The Integration Trap: How disconnected online and on-site ticketing systems can create massive revenue blind spots.

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The Truth About Dynamic Pricing: Why consumers are growing frustrated with fluctuating algorithmic pricing and how to use "value packaging" to protect your brand.

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AI & Forensic Data: How modern operators are using machine learning to track weather and review trends in seconds without losing the human touch.

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The Power of Gamification: A sneak peek into Gatemaster's upcoming G6 platform, employee onboarding achievements, and rewarding high-frequency visitors.

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The Reality of Going Live: Why imperfect, authentic human content connects deeper with an audience than a polished script.

⏱️ Episode Chapters

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00:00 - In-Room at IAAPA Global Headquarters

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03:20 - From Super-User to CEO: The Gatemaster Foundation

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05:10 - Software vs. Hardware: Knowing Your Core Competency

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07:40 - Tracking the Guest Buying Journey & Fixing Friction

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10:05 - Ethics of AI and Leveraging Forensic Data

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14:50 - Why Dynamic Pricing is Being Challenged (And What to Do Instead)

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20:00 - Pricing vs. Value in the Hospitality Industry

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23:15 - Behind the Scenes of the Gatemaster Technology Summit

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26:50 - Hosting "LIVE with Sondra" & The Value of Unfiltered Storytelling

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31:10 - Future Tech: Gamification, Loyalty Programs, and the G6 Rollout

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35:00 - Wrap-Up and Summer Season Outlook

🔗 Connect With Us & Our Guest

• Gatemaster Technology: https://gatemaster.com/
• Listen to "LIVE with Sondra": https://gatemaster.com/media/live-with-sondra/

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