THE Bitcoin Podcast

Who is left to sell Bitcoin?

James Check (Checkmate) and Michael Sullivan are back for round two after Peak Apathy. We put Check’s on-chain analysis alongside Michael’s language-based sentiment research to explore the gap between Bitcoin’s recovering price and the crowd’s lingering disbelief.

Check explains his seller-exhaustion thesis and why a calendar is no substitute for studying how holders behave. Michael breaks down excitement, desire, fear and anger—and why hoping for a higher price is not the same as buying Bitcoin.

We also discuss coin age and spending behavior, DCA versus emotional buying, how to measure Bitcoin’s returns, and why quieter Bitcoiners may simply be busy building businesses and raising families. Then we zoom out to adoption “one funeral at a time,” shifting narratives, AI, scarcity, and the history embedded in Bitcoin’s UTXO set.

Both guests remain bullish, but their thesis is not a guarantee: Check allows for another selloff, and Michael explicitly separates his long-term conviction from the next two weeks.

Recorded October 19, 2026.

JAMES CHECK / CHECKMATE

• Website
• Newsletter
• X

MICHAEL SULLIVAN

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• Links and writing
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• Blood of the Bourgeoisie

ROUND ONE — PEAK APATHY

• Listen to round one
• Original Peak Apathy research

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Could AI change how society makes decisions—and why is Erin Redwing watching 2032? Erin joins Walker for a conversation about Bitcoin, artificial intelligence, astrology, historical cycles and keeping your human agency in a world that is changing fast.

We discuss the AI you notice versus the AI you don't, why long-form conversations matter when a clip can turn you into someone else, and how we both use AI in our creative work. Erin explains her interpretation of planetary and civilizational cycles, including her speculative 2032 thesis, before we get into internet mind viruses, humor, the next generation and why Bitcoin gave her hope.

Erin's ideas about astrology and 2032 are her interpretations and open questions, not established predictions or investment advice.

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How much Bitcoin is enough—and what is it actually for? Jessy Gilger, CFP® and founder of Verify Wealth, joins Walker to connect Bitcoin conviction with the practical work of taxes, inheritance, cash flow, and making time for the people you love.

We discuss why your legal documents, financial plan, and Bitcoin keys need to agree; how unclear inheritance instructions can burden a grieving family; and how tax planning fits into a life built around Bitcoin. Jessy also explains the idea behind Bitcoin Scholars Fund and why “stay humble, stack Saturdays” matters just as much as stacking sats.

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Chapters

00:00 Intro: death, taxes, 21 million

01:11 Jessy Gilger: Cybertruck, self-driving & privacy

10:49 Why Jessy built Verify Wealth

12:22 Sponsor: Ledn

13:36 Sponsor: Blockstream Jade Plus

14:47 Why Bitcoiners need a financial plan

16:57 The problem with percentage-based advisory fees

21:24 Bitcoin taxes, cost basis & planning ahead

25:07 Roth accounts, gifting & tax buckets

28:10 Expats, residency & capital gains

30:14 Tax-loss harvesting & wash-sale discussion

33:15 Bitcoin Scholars Fund & school-choice credits

37:38 Connect your keys to your inheritance plan

42:09 Probate, trusts & family privacy

47:52 Give your spouse confidence, not a puzzle

50:22 Plan B: jurisdiction, custody & optionality

55:20 Death, taxes, 21 million & the money printer

01:00:42 Cash flow, retirement & spending with purpose

01:07:05 Market cycles, goals & when to sell

01:14:08 “I have enough Bitcoin”

01:17:54 Stay humble, stack Saturdays

01:18:59 Verify Wealth & Bitcoin Scholars Fund

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Editorial Correction

At approximately 1:04:29, the conversation mentions airline pilots retiring at 62. The FAA limit for pilots serving in Part 121 airline operations is 65: https://www.faa.gov/faq/what-maximum-age-pilot-can-fly-airplane

In this episode of The Bitcoin Podcast, I sit down with Cory Klippsten, CEO of Swan Bitcoin, to talk about where Bitcoin stands today. Cory explains why he thinks most Bitcoin treasury companies fell short of what they promised, and why he now recommends keeping at least 90% of your Bitcoin exposure in the real thing rather than stocks, ETFs, or other proxies. He also pushes back on the idea that AI agents will drive Bitcoin payments, arguing they'll mostly pay in digital dollars, and that the stronger use case is censored humans who need money that can't be stopped.

He also explains why his advice has hardened to keeping 90% or more of your exposure in real Bitcoin.

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Welcome to Kayfabe University. Class is in session.

Rod Palmer and Richard Greaser of The Bitcoin Bugle return for a conversation about the performance, propaganda, satire, and manufactured reality shaping life online.

We discuss fake audiences, bot-driven influence, political theater, Gen Z’s ability to monetize everything, and what happens when kayfabe produces real-world consequences. We also explore how to find signal in the noise, why authenticity is becoming a superpower, and the simple white pill of turning off your phone and living your life.

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Ben Justman is the founder of Peony Lane Wine, a Colorado winemaker, farmer, Bitcoiner, and one of the most entertaining voices in the Bitcoin space.

In this episode, Walker sits down with Ben to discuss the very real story of bears destroying his vineyard’s grape crop, the harsh economics and uncertainty of small-scale farming, and why building a business around real products changes your perspective on money, risk, and time preference.

Ben explains why independent farmers face far more than weather risk—from frost and wildlife to thin margins and broken incentives—and why supporting local producers matters. The conversation also explores Bitcoin adoption, dollar-cost averaging, monetary debasement, Bitcoin versus stocks, and why Bitcoin can improve a person’s life long before it delivers the financial outcome they originally expected.

This is a conversation about resilience, sovereignty, entrepreneurship, agriculture, Bitcoin conviction, and continuing to build through difficult cycles.

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The Coldcard vulnerability became the catalyst for one of the largest AI-powered security efforts in Bitcoin's history.

Walker America sits down with Rob Hamilton (AnchorWatch) to unpack Bitcoin's volunteer "Red Team," the future of Bitcoin security and self-custody, AI-powered vulnerability research, open-source software security, Kimi K3 vs. OpenAI, responsible disclosure, collaborative custody, and why the emerging AI arms race could fundamentally reshape cybersecurity far beyond Bitcoin.

In this episode:

• The Coldcard vulnerability and what actually happened
• Bitcoin's volunteer Red Team and AI-powered security audits
• Kimi K3 vs. OpenAI and Anthropic for cybersecurity research
• The future of Bitcoin security, self-custody, and multisig
• Open-source AI, responsible disclosure, and software security
• Why AI is transforming cybersecurity—and why Bitcoin was only the beginning

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Alex Thorn joins THE Bitcoin Podcast to discuss whether the Bitcoin bottom is in, the next Bitcoin bull market, changing market cycles, institutional adoption, Bitcoin price analysis, the Coldcard exploit, self-custody, multisig, AI-powered cybersecurity, hardware wallets, and why Bitcoin may be entering a fundamentally new era.

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Samson Mow joins Walker to break down the escalating controversy surrounding BIP 110, Bitcoin Core, OP_RETURN, spam filtering, and the difference between node relay policy and Bitcoin’s consensus rules. Samson explains why he believes BIP 110 attempts to force a rushed and contentious soft fork onto the network, lowers the threshold for future consensus changes, and could produce a short-lived minority chain with insufficient hash rate to survive.

Samson also compares the emotional arguments behind BIP 110 with those used during the Blocksize War, arguing that a desirable objective does not justify a dangerous technical solution. He discusses Bitcoin’s economic majority, miner signaling, the limits of node counts, the risks facing Lightning users and other network participants during a chain split, and why Bitcoin consensus must emerge slowly rather than being imposed through arbitrary deadlines.

Beyond BIP 110, Samson shares his bullish outlook for Bitcoin, explains why belief in the four-year cycle may have created a self-fulfilling selloff, and argues that exhausted sellers could set the stage for God candles and Omega candles. He also discusses the inevitability of large-scale fiat money printing, the upcoming rebuild of Aqua Wallet, and JAN3’s new nation-state Bitcoin adoption report and B20 country rankings.

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Lyn Alden joins Walker to discuss where Bitcoin may be in the current market cycle, why today’s “peak apathy” could represent an accumulation zone, and how the massive flow of capital into AI has affected Bitcoin and crypto markets.

Lyn also breaks down Orange Juice, her new permanent-capital company designed to acquire durable, cash-flowing businesses and retain part of their earnings in Bitcoin. They explore why this model differs from pure-play Bitcoin treasury companies and traditional private equity, the coming generational transfer of small businesses, and how AI can make established companies more efficient without simply replacing workers.

The conversation also covers the Federal Reserve under Kevin Warsh, inflation and interest rates, AI as a long-term deflationary force, China’s open-source AI strategy, the geopolitical AI arms race, and why decentralized and open-source AI could ultimately empower individuals.

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Is the Bitcoin bottom in—or could another major selloff be coming?

Joe Consorti joins Walker to break down the macro forces driving Bitcoin, including the Iran conflict, the Strait of Hormuz, rising oil prices, inflation, Federal Reserve policy, and the prospect of an inflationary recession. Joe explains why an oil supply shock cannot be solved by higher interest rates, why the Fed may ultimately cut rather than hike, and how political pressure ahead of the midterms could shape markets.

They also examine Strategy’s controversial Bitcoin sales and dismantle claims that the company, MSTR, or its STRC preferred equity is caught in a “death spiral.” Joe explains Strategy’s debt structure, the risk of forced Bitcoin liquidation, its push for inclusion in the S&P 500, and how the company can sell BTC to fund dividends while remaining a net buyer over time.

Finally, Joe shares why monetary debasement sustains his long-term Bitcoin conviction—and how his Christian faith keeps him grounded amid political, economic, and geopolitical uncertainty.

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Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert join THE Bitcoin Podcast for a fiery, wide-ranging conversation on Bitcoin’s Wall Street problem, El Salvador’s renaissance, and the culture Bitcoin lost.

We discuss how President Nayib Bukele transformed El Salvador from a country defined by violence and despair into a global symbol of security, optimism, and Bitcoin-powered possibility. Max and Stacy explain why they see El Salvador as the leading example of a new freedom model built around Bitcoin, AI, education, energy, and strong governance.

The conversation also dives deep into Bitcoin’s financialization: Strategy/MSTR, Wall Street, ETFs, treasury companies, self-custody, “number go up” thinking, and the danger of reducing Bitcoin to just another asset on a brokerage screen. Along the way, we explore memes, cypherpunk culture, circular economies, AI, sovereignty, civilization, and why Bitcoin must remain rooted in freedom—not fiat nihilism.

Plus: Bitcoin Historico, Coco Max, fake chocolate bars, and why it’s all Matt Odell’s fault.

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American Hodl and Erik Cason return to THE Bitcoin Podcast for a wide-ranging conversation on Bitcoin, AI, cryptography, surveillance, socialism / communism, and the future of human freedom.

We explore whether AI is fundamentally communist and centralizing, why Bitcoin may be one of humanity’s greatest tools for preserving individual liberty, and how advances in AI are reshaping the economics of censorship, surveillance, and political power.

Along the way, we examine the resurgence of socialism and communism, America’s founding ideals, the growing crisis of trust in Western institutions, open-source AI, privacy, faith, family, and why building parallel systems may matter more than fighting over existing ones.

A philosophical, provocative, and often humorous conversation about the defining ideas shaping the future.

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In this episode, I sit down with Matt Odell for a wide-ranging conversation on the state of Bitcoin, Nostr, and freedom tech in an era of accelerating AI surveillance. Matt opens up about why he returned to X after two years on Nostr only, what he got wrong about adoption timelines, and why he still believes open protocols are the only credible path forward. We get into the tension between self-custody and custodial convenience, the surveillance threat posed by AI-powered data harvesting, and how Odell thinks about building resilient, censorship-resistant systems from his own self-hosted stack at home.

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Kyle Olney joins THE Bitcoin Podcast to discuss Bitcoin policy, open-source software, AI, privacy, and the growing battle between freedom technology and government control.

We examine the Clarity Act and BRCA, what they mean for Bitcoin developers and privacy tools, and why developer protections are critical fight for the future of open-source innovation in America.

Kyle also explores the parallels between Bitcoin and AI, the risks of restricting access to advanced models (e.g. Anthropic's Fable), and why open-source technology is essential for preserving competition, privacy, and individual liberty.

Finally, we zoom out to discuss technological acceleration, generational leadership, the Fourth Turning, and the case for a modern cypherpunk revival.

If you’re interested in Bitcoin, AI, privacy, and the future of freedom technology, this episode is for you.

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Privacy isn’t about having something to hide. It’s about preserving the freedom to act, communicate, and coordinate without coercion.

In this episode of THE Bitcoin Podcast, Walker sits down with privacy advocate, cypherpunk, and Freedom Tech builder Max Hillebrand to discuss his new book, The Praxeology of Privacy.

Max explains how Austrian economics and cypherpunk philosophy intersect, why privacy is a natural consequence of self-ownership and property rights, and how surveillance distorts economic calculation in much the same way that money printing distorts markets.

The conversation explores:

• Why privacy is fundamentally tied to freedom
• The economic consequences of surveillance
• CBDCs and the future of financial control
• Why corporations and governments increasingly operate as surveillance partners
• The role of Bitcoin in creating a parallel economy
• Tor, VPNs, encryption, and network-level privacy
• Nostr’s growing ecosystem and why developer adoption matters more than user counts
• Operational security (OpSec) in both the digital and physical world
• Signal’s limitations and the future of decentralized private communications
• White Noise, Marmot, and the next generation of unstoppable encrypted messaging
• How Freedom Tech can make coercion more expensive and liberty more accessible

Max also shares his vision for a future where money, communication, identity, and publishing are all decentralized, permissionless, and resistant to censorship.

Whether you’re new to privacy or already deep down the cypherpunk rabbit hole, this conversation provides a powerful framework for understanding why privacy matters—and what practical steps you can take to reclaim it.

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IS THE BOTTOM IN? In this episode, I sit down with on-chain analyst James Check (Checkmate) and sentiment researcher Michael Sullivan to dig into their joint report "Peak Apathy" and what it really means when nobody gives a damn about Bitcoin. We go deep on why this bear market feels different, how language data and on-chain metrics are converging on some of the clearest accumulation signals since 2022, and why the most dangerous thing you can do right now is let the herd talk you out of stacking. "IT'S TIME TO DOUBLE DOWN."

If you've been feeling the vibe weirdness and want the data behind it, this one's for you.

PEAK APATHY: https://open.substack.com/pub/checkonchain/p/peak-apathy

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In this episode of THE Bitcoin Podcast, Walker sits down with coinjoined Chris for a wide-ranging conversation covering Bitcoin security, privacy, memes, AI propaganda, self-custody, and the future of freedom tech. They discuss the rise in violent “$5 wrench attacks” against Bitcoiners, operational security best practices, and why privacy tools and self-custody matter more than ever in an increasingly surveilled world.

They also dive deep into Bitcoin scaling debates, covenant proposals, quantum computing fears, and whether Bitcoin should continue evolving or ossify over time. Along the way, they explore AI-generated media, the changing culture of Bitcoin, the rise of institutional “Suitcoiners,” and why memes remain one of the most powerful forms of modern propaganda.

The conversation closes with reflections on sovereignty, CBDCs, the future of money, and a philosophical speed round on plebs, voting, podcasts, and the fall of Rome.

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In this episode, I sit down with Michael Sullivan, author of Blood of the Bourgeoisie, to explore his groundbreaking Bitcoin sentiment analysis work that goes far beyond the fear and greed index, tracking individual high-signal Bitcoiners' language at a granularity most hedge funds only use behind closed doors. We also go deep on Blood of the Bourgeoisie, the Bitcoin thriller I had the honor of narrating, which captures the inner conflict every Bitcoiner knows between wanting to burn the system down and finding the more constructive path forward. The conversation dives into language, narrative formation, Bitcoin culture, the psychology of markets, AI-assisted creativity, and the tension many Bitcoiners feel between revolutionary anger and peaceful opt-out through freedom technology.

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Allen Farrington returns to THE Bitcoin Podcast to discuss his latest essay “Number Go Down,” the myths surrounding deflation, why fiat economics gets causation backwards, and how inflationary monetary systems distort society itself.

Walker and Allen explore the “paradox of thrift,” why central banking is fundamentally incompatible with free markets, and how fiat money fuels wealth inequality while convincing people capitalism is to blame. They also dive into socialism, Bitcoin as a savings technology, lowering time preference, and the future of Bitcoin scaling technologies like Lightning and ARK.

The conversation also covers Bitcoin Is Venice, the upcoming second edition of the book, and why Bitcoin adoption may happen not through ideology — but through people slowly rediscovering common sense.

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