Podcast

The Good Ship Illustration

Arts, Design

Welcome to The Good Ship Illustration - the podcast for illustrators who are quietly working away in their sketchbooks thinking… “is it just me?”

…it’s not just you!

We’re Helen Stephens, Katie Chappell and Tania Willis - three full-time illustrators from three different corners of the industry (and three different age brackets ). We live in the same seaside town in the UK and started having cuppas and chats… and accidentally became illustration agony aunts.

Now we record those chats for you! We answer your questions about confidence, tricky clients, pricing your work, creative block, picture books, publishing, and everything in between.

✨ New episodes every Friday. ✨

Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, and do send us your questions!

P.s. Fancy some freebies? Head to thegoodshipillustration.com for colour workshops, picture book templates, and other treats.

Byeeee for now!

x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

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Design chart
#38
Episodes
130
Releases
Weekly
Typical length
34 min
On air since
2020
Latest episode
4 days ago

Episodes

130 episodes, newest first

  1. How do I get my work featured? With Creative Boom's Katy Cowan

    Season 14, Episode 9

    Show notes

    This week our Katie chats to Katy Cowan, founding editor of Creative Boom, the independent platform that's been cheering on creatives of every background for 17 years. It started as a side project dreamed up on a sun lounger on her honeymoon (true story!) and now reaches over 300,000 readers a month.

    If you've ever wondered how illustrators get picked up by Creative Boom, Katy tells us everythiiiiing: keep sharing your work, keep your Instagram active, and make your website a nice 'n' friendly place for journalists/art directors to land.

    Grab a notebook, this one's full of amazin' tips 💛

    Timestamps, for the timestamp fans:

    00:00 – Meet Katy
    01:00 – Gatekeeping
    03:00 – Goody gatekeepers
    04:00 – "You're not in trouble"
    05:00 – Marketing when you're shy
    06:30 – Hiding behind the brand
    07:00 – 2024
    10:30 – A new brainstorming buddy
    11:30 – AI, the nuanced bit
    14:30 – Where the work is
    15:30 – The perfect storm
    16:30 – The tightrope
    17:30 – The future is human
    19:30 – The courage to be disliked
    20:30 – Getting featured
    23:30 – Press-ready websites
    25:00 – GEO
    25:30 – Honeymoon ideas
    26:30 – Slipped Disc
    27:00 – Being enough

    Links mentioned:

    🌟 Creative Boom: https://www.creativeboom.com
    🎧 The Creative Boom Podcast: https://www.creativeboom.com/podcast/
    📸 Creative Boom on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/creativeboom/
    🎶 Katy's personal Instagram (for the Slipped Disc DJ videos): https://www.instagram.com/katylcowan/
    🎨 Sarah Martinon, the illustrator behind the Hermès campaign Katy mentions: https://www.instagram.com/sarahmartinon/
    🚢 The Good Ship Illustration: https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    Byeeee for now!

    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    29 min
  2. How to stay in touch with your illustration clients without being annoying - part 2 of our @MadebyJames interview

    Season 14, Episode 9

    Show notes

    James Martin (aka @MadebyJames) is baaack! Part one was your starter, and this week is the chonky main course. James did promise to come back with something v useful, and he kept his word.

    Buckle in for a step-by-step formula to help you build relationships with the people you'd love to work with.

    There is absolutely NO cold emailing or cheesey self-promotion involved.

    Timestamps, for the timestamp fans:

    00:00 – Welcome back James, and why part two is all about the practical stuff
    01:00 – A brand is really just a way of getting more opportunity
    02:00 – What James means by "opportunity design"
    02:45 – The book Obvious Adams
    04:00 – Why you should ask your clients for feedback, not other creatives
    06:00 – Why complicated marketing advice makes us feel silly
    07:30 – Good business relationships take time (you can't skip straight to "here's my work, give me money")
    09:00 – Sandboxes: pressure-free 20-minute conversations
    10:45 – Introvert? Start your first sandbox with a friend
    11:50 – Everything good in your life started with one conversation
    13:30 – Physical mailers and the "effort heuristic"
    15:45 – The 5-3-1 framework: five existing clients, three strategic relationships, one aspirational one
    19:00 – Focusing on just nine people, and starting a relationship journal
    21:30 – The time exchange library
    23:30 – What to send when you're following the seven email rule
    26:30 – Asking for a sandbox
    28:00 – The "second portfolio": gifting a scrappy idea that solves their problem
    30:45 – Reciprocity
    33:30 – Getting ready for when they look you up: your bio, profile pic and a "how to work with me" PDF
    37:00 – Cold emails are gross and they don't even work

    Links mentioned:

    • Part one of our chat with James was last week (we'll add the link here when we have it)
    • James's Substack: https://madebyjames.substack.com
    • James's free Super Duper Mentorship for emerging creatives: https://madebyjames.substack.com/p/join-my-free-mentorship-program
    • James on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/made_by_james
    • James's new book, No Bullsh*t Branding: https://www.quarto.com/books/9781577159452/no-bullsh-t-branding
    • Obvious Adams by Robert R. Updegraff
    • Hype Yourself by Lucy Werner: https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/hype-yourself-a-no-nonsense-pr-toolkit-for-small-businesses-lucy-werner/b3b30df91155c107?ean=9781788601238&next=t&affiliate=11858&ref=hypeyourself.com
    • Our episode with Kira Matthews (the seven email rule): https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/the-7-email-rule-pitching-your-work-to-illustration/id1526470404?i=1000757654276

    Byeeee for now!

    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    39 min
  3. Is there any point becoming an illustrator now that AI is here? An interview with James Martin @madebyjames PART 1!

    Season 14, Episode 8

    Show notes

    Trigger warning: In this episode, James talks openly about his experience of childhood sexual abuse, as well as addiction (drugs and alcohol). It's mentioned briefly in the 06:52 to 11:00 section and discussed again from 45:23. There's also plenty of strong language throughout. Look after yourself and skip this episode/seek support if you need it.

    This week our Katie is chatting to James Martin, AKA @MadebyJames. He's a designer, author, Canva design advisory board member & creative partner at Lincoln Design Co.

    James is nice an' honest about the wiggly creative career road that got him to where he is today.

    We chat about the "gravity of average" and why everyone's starting to look and sound the same, an economist with two ice cream sellers on a beach 🍦, whether there's any point becoming an illustrator now AI is here aaaand why your weirdness is more valuable than ever. 😎 FLY YOUR FREAK FLAG!!

    ALSO, this is part one of two - next instalment is coming next week.

    Timestamps, for the timestamp fans:

    00:00 – Welcome James Martin, aka Made by James, and a quick intro to who he is and what he does
    02:43 – The world has never been more distracting
    06:29 – James's journey: school, trauma, addiction, and finding his way to an art foundation
    11:00 – Falling forward into graphic design
    15:03 – Following your gut and doing more of what lights you up
    18:09 – Writing No Bullsh*t Branding
    21:11 – Ddopamine
    25:06 – Is there any point becoming an illustrator now that AI is here?
    29:54 – The "gravity of average" and how systems pull everyone towards the middle
    32:53 – Hotelling's Law, ice cream sellers on a beach, and why opportunity lives at the edges
    38:08 – Time, the long game, and "automate the predictable, humanise the meaningful"
    41:44 – Bring back dilly dallying!
    42:04 – Your weirdness as your difference: taste, story and point of view
    45:23 – Feeling scared to be yourself, and why James chose to share his story
    49:29 – Being real online vs oversharing, and sharing from the scar, not the open wound
    52:24 – Gary V, 500 pieces of content a week, and the performance trap
    53:11 – James's mission, his three-step plan, and eating your own dog food
    56:10 – Round two is coming!

    Links mentioned:

    • James's Substack: https://madebyjames.substack.com
    • James's free Super Duper Mentorship for emerging creatives: https://madebyjames.substack.com/p/join-my-free-mentorship-program
    • James on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/made_by_james
    • James's new book, No Bullsh*t Branding: https://www.quarto.com/books/9781577159452/no-bullsh-t-branding

    Byeeee for now!

    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    58 min
  4. Lessons from our 'failures' + Illustration Business Club doors close tonight!

    Season 14, Episode 5

    Show notes

    This week, you're stuck with Katie and Helen again, answering more of your businessy questions (Tania's back next week! Don't cry! She's coming back, really!)

    RIP to our dear friend and editor Deirdre McDermott of Walker Books, who died recently. Dee was a legend. We don't have the words to do her justice here, but we miss her very very much. 💛 And of course, Smelly Peggy too.

    Timestamps, for the timestamp fans:

    00:00 – Helen and Katie are back
    00:45 – Any consistency hacks? Katie's summer of posting every day
    01:45 – Reposting old posts
    02:45 – When your illustration work 'flops'
    03:30 – Stop when the fun runs out
    04:30 – Illustrator's boob
    06:15 – 2012 washing powder
    08:00 – The rise and pause of Katie's jobs board
    10:45 – Being misunderstood online
    11:45 – "Get over yourself"
    13:00 – Helen's online school visit that didn't quite work
    15:45 – Lessons
    17:00 – Helen's year out
    18:45 – Finding Your Creative Voice
    19:30 – Remembering Deirdre McDermott of Walker Books

    Links mentioned:

    • Illustration Business Club: https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/business
    • Find Your Creative Voice: Fly Your Freak Flag (with Helen's video about her year out): https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/freak-flag
    • Helen's free online school visit: https://www.helenstephens.com/virtual-school-visit
    • Walker Books: https://www.walker.co.uk

    Byeeee for now!

    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    p.s. It's the last day! The Illustration Business Club doors close TONIGHT, Friday 9th October, at 10pm UK time. There's an option to pay in 10 smaller instalments, and we'd love to see you in there before they shut.https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/business

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    25 min
  5. Help! Posting my illustration work makes me cringe 😬

    Season 14, Episode 4

    Show notes

    This week it's just Helen and Katie here (helloo - Tania was off in Naples eating pizza for us. We were living vicariously through her.)

    Let's get stuck in and answer your excellent questions about marketing your illustration work.

    "I just don't know where to begin!" and overcoming our arch nemesis: cringe.

    Plus SLOTH FACTS. You're welcome.

    Timestamps, for the timestamp fans:

    00:00 – Time off is good for you, and good for business
    01:00 – Helen's short, intense work bursts on the latest Salty book
    02:00 – Take the bus
    03:00 – "Where do I start with marketing?"
    04:00 – Trying on hats (and taking them back off)
    04:45 – The creative car and the business car
    06:00 – Brilliant work nobody sees vs brilliant marketing that needs more art car time
    07:00 – Seven ways to get your work in front of picture book publishers
    08:30 – Low-pressure Instagram and the overflowing camera roll
    09:30 – If we were starting again: website, portfolio etc.
    11:00 – Ditch the "aspiring", "wannabe" and "itty bitty" labels
    11:30 – Cringe
    12:45 – Caveman brains
    15:00 – It's not meant to be easy
    16:15 – "How do I get over myself?"
    17:15 – Seeking validation vs showing up to share your goodies
    18:00 – Illustration Business Club doors are open, plus the new 10-pay option
    19:45 – Art Club, sloth ribs and a guinea pig Wild West village

    Links mentioned:

    • Illustration Business Club: https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/business
    • The Association of Illustrators: https://theaoi.com
    • SCBWI British Isles: https://britishisles.scbwi.org
    • Northumberland Zoo: https://www.northumberlandzoo.co.uk/

    Byeeee for now!

    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    p.s. Get your illustration business ducks in a row. 🐥 🐥 🐥 The Illustration Business Club doors are open now, with a new option to pay in 10 smaller instalments.

    We'd love to have you sailing with us! https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/business

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    23 min
  6. "I hadn't drawn for 21 years" an interview with Jo Overend 🐥

    Season 14, Episode 7

    Show notes

    Jo Overend is in da house (ship?)

    But first, Illustration Business Club is finally OPEN! It's been over a year since we last flung the doors open and we'd love to have you sailing with us! https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/business

    Jo is an author-illustrator, an OG Good Shipper, and the author and illustrator of Megaduck (her debut picture book with Walker Books) 🐥

    When Jo started out, she hadn't drawn for 21 years. She posted her drawings anyway, eeeeven the ones she didn't like, and sometimes three to five Instagram posts a day (!!!)

    Timestamps:

    00:00 – Hello Jo (and Megaduck, in giant cardboard cutout form)
    00:23 – Megaduck's final artwork is done and handed over to Walker Books
    01:03 – Getting final artwork finished alongside full-on childcare
    01:56 – Setting the goal of a full colour dummy for Bologna
    02:57 – Walking into shops with your prints (terrifying!) and taking the wholesale leap
    03:37 – Why rejection is almost never about you
    05:46 – Katie's human design corner: give people something to say yes or no to
    06:10 – Sending Walker seven more book ideas without waiting for a meeting
    07:01 – Posting real things to agents and publishers, and the "is it worth the stamp?" wobble
    09:13 – Why genuine, thoughtful post gets remembered
    10:10 – Agents and publishers actually WANT your follow-up email
    11:42 – Jo's Illustration Business Club experience
    12:23 – Getting stocked in her favourite shop, and growing into wholesale
    13:12 – Community, competitions, and winning the Picture Hooks mentorship (plus a book deal the same week!)
    14:34 – Tania's "friendly stalking" method for finding art directors
    15:50 – "Have we met?" How Jo's postcards got there before she did
    16:57 – Helen's broccoli theory of being seen
    17:25 – The anonymous egg problem, and why a face (or a logo) builds trust
    18:29 – Jo's advice for scared, shy, overwhelmed illustrators
    19:04 – Not drawing for 21 years, then posting 3 to 5 doodles a day
    22:02 – Megaduck news: US in February, UK in March, and Megaduck 2 on the way
    23:07 – Trying all the little things: kids' workshops, wholesale and more
    24:40 – Keep your radar open
    25:16 – Where to find Jo, plus her Substack and Patreon plans

    Links mentioned:

    • Jo's website: https://www.jooverendillustration.com/
    • Jo on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joverendillustration/
    • Jo's Substack: https://jooverendillustration.substack.com/
    • Megaduck (US edition): https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/835922/megaduck-by-jo-overend-illustrated-by-jo-overend/
    • Picture Hooks: https://www.picturehooks.org.uk/

    Byeeee for now!
    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    p.s. Soooo much of what Jo talks about here ties in v well with what's inside Illustration Business Club. The doors are open right now and we'd love to have you in there with us! https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/business

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    27 min
  7. Do I need loads of followers to get illustration work?

    Season 14, Episode 6

    Show notes

    Fancy getting into your business car for a bit? Illustration Business Club doors are open until 9th October 2026, and you get lifetime access, so you can go at your own pace (pudding first, broccoli later). We'd love to have you sailing with us https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/business

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    We recorded this podcast LIVE on Instagram on Friday! (So please excuse the audio if it doesn't sound 100%) Anyways, here's the replay. Katie and Helen had a nice 'n' friendly illustration business Q&A, answering your questions as they came flying in. If we missed your question, it's nothing personal! We're doing another live Q&A next Friday too over on our Instagram @thegoodshipillustration so do come along and ask your question again :) https://www.instagram.com/thegoodshipillustration/

    Half-arse is better than no-arse.

    Timestamps, for the timestamp fans:

    00:00 – Welcome to our live Q&A podcast
    01:50 – Should you keep your children's and grown-up work on separate Instagram accounts?
    03:15 – Illustration Business Club doors, early birds and payment plans
    04:30 – Organising your website when you've got lots of income streams
    05:30 – SEO, long-tail keywords and lying down in the middle of the road
    08:45 – What are publishers looking for in a portfolio?
    12:00 – Do you need a big social media following to get started?
    14:00 – Where to start with licensing
    17:30 – How to say no when friends want you to illustrate their book
    21:45 – Should you approach an agent or go straight to publishers?
    23:30 – Instagram is not your portfolio (and half-arse is better than no arse)
    25:30 – Does business stuff apply to fine art too?
    27:15 – Your creative car and your business car
    30:00 – Working for free, "exposure" and being paid in lobsters
    30:45 – How do you stay invested in a picture book idea all the way through?
    34:00 – Pricey website hosting vs the cheaper option
    35:45 – Dealing with the newbie beginner scaries
    38:00 – When getting paid makes you tighten up
    40:00 – Structuring your days, Helen's birthday card trick and not doing a Father Ted
    43:15 – Do the fun thing first (an idiot with momentum always wins)

    Links mentioned:

    • Illustration Business Club: https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/business
    • Tania's Good Ship Illustration podcast episode with Margo Tantau on licensing from 2 weeks ago: https://pod.link/1526470404/episode/QnV6enNwcm91dC0xOTgxNTM1Nw
    • Anchoring Your Ideas So They Don't Fizzle Out (We looked into this and it's inside the Picture Book Course, not a freebie sorry!) https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/PB
    • Good Ship freebies for picture book makers and illustrators: https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/freebies
    • Louise Lockhart, The Printed Peanut: https://theprintedpeanut.co.uk/
    • Jonny Hannah: https://www.instagram.com/darktownresident/
    • Catherine Rayner: https://www.catherinerayner.co.uk/
    • Jessica Hische's "Should I Work For Free?" flowchart: https://www.creativebloq.com/news/should-you-work-for-free-jessica-hische

    Byeeee for now!
    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    44 min
  8. Marketing *without* social media as an illustrator. Is it possible? (Illustration Business Club doors now open!) 🎉🎉🎉

    Season 14, Episode 4

    Show notes

    This week, we're back at the kitchen table after the summer holidays, and the doors to Illustration Business Club are officially OPEN! Wahoooo 🎉

    A quick catch-up first: Katie trying to not-work for six whole weeks, and Tania's summer spent changing her work on a big museum project.

    Then there's a nice big juicy question from a listener: can you market yourself without social media if you really hate filming yourself?

    Timestamps, for the timestamp fans:

    00:00 – Doors are open! IBC, the new 10-pay option and the early bird pricing workshop
    01:15 – Back for autumn: summer holidays, Berlin playgrounds and trying not to work
    02:45 – Tania's summer project and changing her work
    04:15 – Keeping an eye on creative funding locally
    05:30 – Why the Business Course became Illustration Business Club
    06:45 – Key dates: early birds, the introvert-friendly marketing workshop and the 12th October kick-off
    08:00 – What's inside: licensing, rights, extra income streams and expert guests
    09:15 – "What even is live illustration?" and illustration as a business
    11:00 – Listener question: can you market yourself without social media?
    11:45 – Life before Instagram
    13:30 – Tweeting your work vs trudging round art directors
    15:00 – Physical mailers
    16:30 – Why niching down makes marketing (and SEO) soooo much easier
    17:45 – Social media is not a work-getter
    18:45 – Tania's maps: letting the work do the marketing
    20:30 – Good work first, then word of mouth
    22:30 – Speaking your clients' language
    23:30 – SEO for beginners, starring Tania

    Links mentioned:

    • Illustration Business Club: https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/business
    • The Good Ship on Instagram (for Art Club): https://www.instagram.com/thegoodshipillustration/
    • Introvert-friendly marketing workshop: https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/shy

    Byeeee for now!

    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    p.s. The Illustration Business Club doors are open now! Join by midday on Wednesday 30th September and you're an early bird, which means you get a seat at our live pricing workshop with all three of us at 1pm that day (it's recorded too). There's a new option to pay in 10 smaller instalments, and the doors close on Friday 9th October at 10pm UK time.

    We'd love to see you in there!

    https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/business

    p.p.s. A few dates for your diary:
    ✏️ Monday 28th September, 12.30pm UK: Art Club, #walktoseeprepare (more page prep, then drawing over the top)
    ✏️ Monday 5th October, 12.30pm UK: Art Club, starting a brand new #walktosee challenge for October
    💌 Wednesday 7th October, 1pm UK: free introvert-friendly marketing workshop, camera off allowed: [NEEDS SIGNUP LINK]
    https://www.instagram.com/thegoodshipillustration/

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    26 min
  9. "Your old sketchbook drawings could be earning you money" - An illustration licensing chat with Margo Tantau

    Season 14, Episode 3

    Show notes

    This week our Tania is speaking to the one and only Margo Tantau (the licensing whisperer).

    Margo is a good ship Pal, founder of Tantau Studio and you might have heard her on her brilliant podcast Windowsill Chats. Here's a link: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/windowsill-chats/id1529045232

    In this chat, Tania and Margo talk about all the important stuff liiiike:

    What is licensing? How do you get paid? Can you REALLY license work you've already made? Margo even shares her secret weapen for getting art directors to fall in love with your work.

    Some very good bits too: AI slop is NOT getting in the way of artists with real human hands. Hoorayyyy. That's good news for all of us, eh?

    Timestamps, for the timestamp fans:

    00:00 – Intro to Margo Tantau and her 360-degree licensing career
    02:30 – Welcome back to the licensing whisperer
    04:00 – Artist, shop owner, buyer, product developer, agent: Margo's done it all
    06:00 – How Lilla Rogers passed the agency baton to Margo
    10:30 – Why relationships are the real gold in licensing
    12:00 – What licensing actually is (from spice labels to Nike)
    13:00 – How you get paid: advances, royalties and typical percentages
    16:00 – Can you licence work you've already made? Yes!
    17:00 – Margo's secret weapon: show your art ON the product
    20:30 – You don't need perfect mock-ups (a drawn teacup works too)
    21:00 – A creative challenge: turn one piece into a mini collection
    23:00 – Is AI hurting licensing? Why Margo's clients say no to AI art
    25:30 – Tania's shock at the AI souvenir flood in Hong Kong
    28:00 – The hand of the artist, texture, and quality signalling
    30:30 – The UK licensing landscape, life after Surtex
    32:30 – A London licensing expo
    36:00 – People buy what they see: Margo's plates, fabrics and jacket stand
    38:00 – The Licensing Lab at Spring Fair
    39:00 – A sneaky tip for finding which exhibitors licence art
    40:30 – Should licensing-curious illustrators go to Spring Fair?
    41:30 – What does a stand actually cost?
    44:30 – Why walking a trade fair beats a day of LinkedIn research
    45:30 – Fancy matchboxes, candles, and buying things just for the art
    46:30 – The big takeaway: people still want real art
    48:30 – Community, Bologna, and the gold at the bottom of the rainbow

    Links mentioned:

    • Margo's website: https://margotantau.com/
    • Tantau Studio: https://www.tantaustudio.com/
    • Windowsill Chats podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/windowsill-chats/id1529045232
    • Windowsill Chats on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/windowsillchats
    • Spring Fair (NEC Birmingham, 7th to 10th February 2027): https://www.springfair.com

    Byeeee for now!

    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    p.s. Want Margo's full licensing class? It's waiting for you inside Illustration Business Club, along with aaall the other money-and-business bits art school forgot to teach you.

    Doors open on 25th of September 2026! https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/business

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    50 min
  10. "You really don't have to go to art school!" An interview with Carly Kuhn

    Season 14, Episode 2

    Show notes

    This week our Katie is chatting to Carly Kuhn, a US-based illustrator, artist and author who ended up in illustration kindofbyaccident. She grew up in New York wanting to do TV comedy, worked at a Hollywood talent agency, took improv classes at The Groundlings, and started drawing on printer paper nicked from the office, just as something creative to do after work. Then Sarah Jessica Parker reposted one of her drawings (!!) and - you'll have to listen to the episode to find out what happens next 🤪

    Carly has had NO formal art or illustration training, which is exactly why we wanted to speak to her. We chat about finding your style by making loads of wonky work, why she wasn't ready for an agent for ages, and some pricing stuff about usage/contracts/licensing an' that.

    There's also chat about wallpaper, multiple creative income streams, and how becoming a mum did not end her career (woohoo!)

    Timestamps, for the timestamp fans:

    00:00 – Intro to Carly and her very wiggly path
    02:00 – TV comedy, improv, and how the drawing started
    06:30 – Improv
    08:00 – Sarah Jessica Parker reposts a drawing
    10:30 – Going full-time - pricing is completely made up
    14:30 – No art school
    16:00 – Naivety as a superpower, and posting every day
    19:00 – Live illustration, fancy parties, and the first wallpaper job
    23:30 – Lockdown portraits, moving cities, becoming a mum
    26:00 – Getting an agent
    31:00 – Pricing, usage, and being a people-pleaser who has to negotiate
    38:00 – Accidentally building lots of income streams
    42:00 – How motherhood focused her career
    49:00 – Character Study, and how bonkers publishing timelines are
    52:00 – You really don't have to go to art school!

    Links mentioned:

    • Carly's website: https://www.carlykuhn.com/
    • Carly on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/carlykuhn/
    • Carly's Substack, The Cartelier: https://carlykuhn.substack.com/
    • Carly's new book, Character Study: Observations from a Very Curious Artist: https://www.carlykuhn.com/books

    Byeeee for now!

    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    p.s. If the pricing and usage chat made your ears prick up, we are planning a v exciting early-bird bonus for Illustration Business Club joiners. Doors open on Friday 25th September. Pop it on your calendar! 🥳

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    53 min
  11. "Nobody can hire you if they can't see you". An interview with Mollie off of @ShortSupplyMCR

    Season 14, Episode 1

    Show notes

    "Why does promoting my own work feel so cringe?"

    HIYA WELCOME BACK! We missed you!
    Summer holidays are all done here in the UK. Hope you had a good rest too.

    This week our Katie's chatting to Mollie Balshaw, one half of Short Supply:

    Short Supply is an artist-led creative practice founded by Mollie and Rebekah Balshaw. Since 2019, they have helped artists navigate creative careers through exhibitions, publishing, workshops, mentoring and public conversations. Their work makes the hidden structures of the art world more visible, while encouraging artists to take their ideas seriously without waiting for perfect conditions. Their current projects include 100 Ideas and Step One, a series of conversations taking place at Edinburgh Fringe.

    Short Supply posed this cracker of a question over on Instagram: why is visibility treated like ego, when artists need it to survive?

    There's chat about snobbery re; wanting to earn money from your work, the bits of being visible online that you're not warned about, aaaand the boundaries Mollie and Rebekah have built to keep themselves safe.

    Then there's the can-you-have-a-successful-creative-career-outside-London question, and why "it's local so it must be rubbish" can get into our heads.

    Unfortunately, the Edinburgh Fringe is finished now 😭 but Step One was Short Supply's project and you can read all about it here: https://www.shortsupply.org/step-one

    Timestamps, for the timestamp fans:

    00:00 – Intro to Mollie, Rebekah and Short Supply
    01:20 – Why is visibility treated like ego?
    02:30 – Being talented is admirable, wanting to be seen is embarrassing. Whyyy?
    03:30 – Starting Short Supply out of frustration (and wanting an excuse to collaborate)
    04:30 – Who the art world isn't built for
    05:30 – Snobbery about "commercial", snobbery about social media
    06:20 – "Do I have to show my face?"
    07:30 – Algorithms, platform politics, visibility
    09:20 – Energy and capacity
    10:20 – The flip side of a post going big
    11:20 – When visibility isn't safe: queer, disabled and racialised artists
    12:30 – Boundaries
    14:00 – Would you mind a stranger saving it?
    15:20 – You don't *need* to be on social media to promote your creative work
    16:00 – Edinburgh Fringe as the best word-of-mouth machine in the country
    16:40 – Step One: the Fringe show
    17:40 – "I'm not telling you my idea in case you nick it"
    18:20 – You can't benefit from an idea that stays in your head
    20:20 – Smooth peanut butter vs crunchy
    21:00 – Manchester
    23:00 – Building a creative career outside London.
    24:20 – proximity to London still counts for a lot
    25:40 – "Manchester's caught up" or has it?
    28:40 – Contradicting yourself out loud is just thinking. Allowed.
    30:40 – Who are the David Hockneys of Salford right now?
    33:00 – Local snobbery, and galleries that don't invite their neighbours
    35:00 – Growing up somewhere small and assuming everything local is rubbish
    36:30 – You have more choices than you think (a story about Mollie's nan)
    38:00 – The joy of a part-time job/everyone else's secret pile of money
    39:20 – AI, and being glad it didn't exist at uni
    40:40 – "They may have been rubbish, but they were mine"

    Links mentioned:

    • Short Supply's website: https://www.shortsupply.org
    • Short Supply on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shortsupplymcr
    • The Scottish Storytelling Centre, home of Step One: https://www.scottishstorytellingcentre.com

    Byeeee for now!

    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    p.s. If you'd like more options for being-visible-without-being-sick-in-your-mouth, that's exactly what we get stuck into in Illustration Business Club! Doors are opening in October and you can read up on it here: https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/business

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    43 min
  12. RIP Hockney & (Art) school's out for summer 🤘 🌴 🍦🩲

    Season 13, Episode 25

    Show notes

    What're you doing this summer? Are you having a little rest?

    This episode is all about taking breaks and we have a wee look at our plans:

    Helen is in her illustrator hermit cave for July to get the next Salty Dog book finished before the deadline, with a nice August off as her reward.
    Tania is working on a museum commission for a 'Gossip Wall' in Berwick Museum, with plans to experiment with texture and line for the first time in ages. (Phwoarrrrr.)
    And Katie's about to have her first proper 6-week term-time break now that E's in school full time.

    Whatever your plans are, have a good one! We'll be back in September.

    Rough Timestamps, for you timestamp enthusiasts:

    00:00 – Recording remotely, wheee
    01:00 – Camping memories in France (TVs in tents)
    03:00 – What does everyone's idea of a summer break look like?
    04:00 – Helen's July hermit cave
    05:00 – Tania's loose-deadline project
    06:00 – the Gossip Wall
    09:00 – Working four-hour afternoons
    10:00 – Berwick Open Studios, and the Pith Sketchbook Studios workshops on 3rd & 4th October
    11:00 – Walk to See, Instagram's Add Yours feature
    13:00 – Sketchbooking at the Alan Carr castle auction viewing day
    14:00 – Katie's first proper term-time summer break now E's in school
    15:00 – Freelance guilt, privilege, trying to "do it all" rarely works
    17:00 – Trying and failing to switching your email off
    20:00 – RIP David Hockney
    24:00 – Planning a Hockney-themed summer party
    27:00 – Good luck to Helen with the Salty Dog drawings, and a peek ahead Illustration Business Club returning this autumn!

    Links mentioned:

    Byeeee for now!

    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    p.s.Illustration Business Club is coming back into the chat this autumn, join the waiting list here and keep an eye out.

    https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/business

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    29 min
  13. No, you *don't* have imposter syndrome - an interview with Lauren Currie OBE

    Season 13, Episode 24

    Show notes

    What's the point in making all this gorgeous work if you don't have the confidence to share it, eh? EH!?

    Who better to grill on this subject than Lauren Currie, OBE.

    Lets gooo:

    Timestamps, for the timestamp fans:

    00:00 – Intro
    01:00 – Confidence = the elephant in the room for creatives
    02:00 – Lauren on why confidence matters so much, especially for women and marginalised people
    05:00 – The shite UN statistic
    07:00 – "What would a mediocre middle-aged man do?"
    09:00 – Confidence is a team sport, not a solo endeavour
    11:00 – Carrying responsibility for how everyone else feels
    12:00 – 10 people whose opinions actually matter (and why it's not Jeanie from school's mum's dentist)
    14:00 – Imposter syndrome
    16:00 – The 1970s research that labelled women with a "syndrome" instead of looking at the system
    19:00 – Why self-doubt is healthy
    21:00 – Confidence is a muscle
    22:00 – Lauren's art
    25:00 – Old lady faces
    27:00 – Should you have a separate art Instagram?
    28:00 – The Barcelona art show story
    32:00 – Why 'just' 20 people seeing your work is a LOT of people
    33:00 – Lauren's advice for illustrators who are scared to share their work
    36:00 – On hiding
    38:00 – We need your art!!

    Links and books etc. mentioned:

    • Lauren's website: https://www.laurencurrie.co/art
    • Upfront: https://www.weareupfront.com
    • Be Upfront by Lauren Currie
    • We Need Your Art by Amy McNee https://www.amiemcnee.com/order-we-need-your-art-book-amie-mcnee
    • The Good Ship Illustration: https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com
    • Find Your Creative Voice, Fly Your Freak Flag course: https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/freakflag

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    40 min
  14. Help, I’ve forgotten how to draw 🫠

    Season 13, Episode 23

    Show notes

    This week's podcast is a sneaky peek into the live Q&A calls we do for our Find Your Creative Voice; Fly Your Freak Flag students. (They happen monthly at the moment.)

    WHADDA CHAT.

    In this episode, we talk about:

    • Pursuing boredom
    • The Artists' Way
    • Why finding your style doesn’t always feel fun and easy and natural (Instagram's lying to yooou)
    • What to do when you have hundreds of project ideas and no clue which one to choose
    • How to handle agent/client feedback without immediately throwing your laptop into the sea
    • Galleries are better when you don’t try to “eat all the paintings”
    • Pens, colour, sketchbooks and abandoning black linework
    • Quentin Blake, Mr Bingo and free flapjacks. Just a normal day, really.

    If you'd like to join us, go for it! Enrolment is open right now, and our next live call is happening on Thursday the 16th of July at 7pm UK time.

    Timestamps

    00:00 Art block
    00:55 Morning pages
    02:00 Wide margins
    04:30 Boredom
    06:00 Creative sparks
    08:15 Creative identity
    10:20 Comparison
    11:30 Constraints
    13:30 Page layouts
    15:15 Deadlines
    17:15 Oblique Strategies
    18:30 Slow looking
    21:00 Drawing from home
    22:30 Quentin Blake Centre
    26:45 Too many ideas
    31:10 Feedback
    37:30 Coloured linework
    39:45 Closing thoughts

    Stuff we mentioned & links (so many this week, woah)

    • The Artist’s Way by Julia Cameron
    • Make Every Day Creative by Marion Deuchars
    • David Hockney (RIP)
    • Brian Eno’s Oblique Strategies
    • Quentin Blake Centre - Thank you for inviting us to the preview day, team QB!
    • Derwent Pencil Museum
    • Picture Hooks https://www.picturehooks.org.uk/
    • The Catchpole Agency http://www.thecatchpoleagency.co.uk/
    • Muji fine liners
    • Emma Carlisle / Sarah Dyer
    https://www.emmacarlisle.com/
    https://www.sarahdyer.com/
    • The Good Ship Illustration Art Club
    https://www.instagram.com/thegoodshipillustration/?hl=en
    • Fly Your Freak Flag
    https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/freakflag
    • The Good Ship Illustration colour workshop
    https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/colour

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    41 min
  15. "I spent ages on the detailed stuff...but they liked the quick sketch." An interview with the brilliant Alice Bowsher

    Season 13, Episode 22

    Show notes

    This week our Katie is chatting to Alice Bowsher, who's work she would like to bite (In a good way. The same way you want to bite very cute babies. Is it called cuteness aggression?)

    Anyways, there's chat about creative career paths, Glastonbury bags, cardboard bedrooms, Walker Books, baby board books, and the very very important role of biscuits. Mmmm.

    Timestamps, for the timestamp fans:

    00:00 – Intro to Alice
    02:00 – From fine art to graphics to illustration
    04:00 – The YCN internship, signing with an agent, and learning how the industry works
    06:00 – Grand Matter, how commissions work "I'm definitely an agent person"
    09:00 – Pricing and getting over the guilt of making it look easy
    11:00 – Social media, Instagram vs Substack - Substack feels like old school Tumblr
    14:00 – What happens when a brief comes in?
    17:00 – Alice's cardboard bedroom
    19:00 – Sketchbooking
    21:00 – The Glastonbury Guardian bags and seeing your work out in the world
    22:30 – Hobbies, exercise, biscuits, and the new-parent juggle
    24:30 – Baby board books for Walker

    Links mentioned:

    • Alice's website: https://www.alicebowsher.co.uk/
    • Alice on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alicebowsher
    • Alice's Substack, Easypeeler: https://alicebowsher.substack.com/
    • Grand Matter, Alice's illustration agency: https://grandmatter.com/
    • Fold out guinea pig birthday cards for Wrap: https://wrapmagazine.com/products/guinea-pig-surprise-fold-out-card
    • We briefly mentioned Find Your Creative Voice, Fly Your Freak Flag so here's the link to that too in case you want to bask in your weirdness and make your best work ever: https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/freakflag

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    28 min
  16. And the award for Best Stand at Bologna Children's Book Fair goes to...

    Season 13, Episode 21

    Show notes

    This week, we're STIIIIIILL talking about Bologna Children's Book Fair (for the last time, we promise 😅) - this episode was supposed to come out as soon as we got home, but the technology gremlins have been fighting with us every step of the way. BACK OFF, GREMLINS.

    You'll hear at the very end that we went on talking for three whole blimmin' episodes before we realised the microphones had conked out.

    We chat about having a stand and exhibiting for the very first time, our Best-Stand award, given to us by the one and only Chloe Savage (sponsored by ham™️), meeting the most brilliant people, and...Mega Duck!

    Timestamps, for the timestamp fans:

    00:00 – Back from Bologna! The brain dump begins
    01:00 – What it was like having a stand for the first time
    02:30 – The Best Stand Award wot we won
    04:00 – 1,500 stripy bags, tattoos, and the ham situation
    06:30 – Meeting podcast listeners in real life
    07:00 – A lovely chat with Steve Anthony (Mr. Panda!) and his route into illustration 09:00 – The Cambridge School of Art stand and Good Ship grads
    10:00 – Katie interviewing people on the stand with mega microphones
    11:30 – Holly's observation about illustrators
    13:00 – Why picture book people are the best
    15:00 – The Illustrators' Survival Corner
    16:30 – Meeting new people and being mistaken for a publisher
    18:00 – Jo Overend and the Mega Duck story / Walker Books
    22:00 – Lisa Loffredo, the Nami Concours shortlist, and a very good group photo
    24:00 – The Good Ship Illustration as a showcase for talent (a big idea brewing...)
    26:00 – Our Bolognese Palace
    28:00 – Tania on nonfiction illustration
    31:00 – How to research publishers from home
    33:30 – Whoops, the microphones weren't recording. Goodbye Bologna!

    Links & people mentioned:

    🎨 Steve Antony (Mr. Panda author-illustrator): https://www.steveantony.com/
    🎨 Cambridge School of Art MA in Children's Book Illustration: https://www.aru.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/childrens-book-illustration
    🎨 Jo Overend on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joverendillustration/
    🎨 Lisa Loffredo on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisaloffredo_/
    🎨 The Bologna Children's Book Fair: https://www.bolognachildrensbookfair.com/ 🎨 The Bookseller (check out the April issue, useful for agents and publishers list): https://www.thebookseller.com/

    Byeeee for now!

    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    p.s. Heard Jo's story and feelin' a bit inspired? Good! If you want to find your own creative voice and start putting yourself out there, come and fly your freak flag with us. https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/freakflag

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    35 min
  17. "Help! I love my rough illustrations and panic on the final piece. How do I get out of my own way?"

    Season 13, Episode 20

    Show notes

    It's all fun and games until someone mentions FINAL ARTWORK. (Arghhhh)

    Sound familiar? Thought so.

    So we get stuck into Inky's question: how do you get out of your own way and switch off the overthinking brains?

    All three of us wrestle with this in different ways.

    Also mentioned: expensive paper + a shared fantasy about buying a tiny round Father Ted caravan to draw in. Pour yourself a decaf tea and get comfy. 🫖

    Timestamps, for the timestamp fans:

    00:00 – The question from "Inky"
    02:00 – Why your best work happens when you're distracted
    03:00 – Helen's voice coach revelation
    05:00 – The "kiss of death" of the final piece
    06:00 – First violin nerves and propranolol
    07:00 – Why Katie does live illustration
    08:00 – ADHD, body doubling and visual timers
    09:00 – Tania's surprise panic attack
    10:00 – The fear of expensive paper
    11:00 – Cheap sketchbooks, and never stretching paper
    12:00 – Working on five versions at once
    13:00 – Pia Bramley's drawings in the New York Times
    14:00 – The dim light box trick
    15:00 – Gluing over mistakes
    16:00 – Why scaling up kills a drawing
    17:00 – The blobby technique, and INCUP
    19:00 – Tania loses her portfolio on the bus
    20:00 – Katie's secret competitive streak
    22:00 – Are illustration competitions worth it?
    24:00 – Getting into the zone
    25:00 – Rain, gas fires and working audios
    27:00 – The dream caravan studio
    29:00 – Dressing gowns, woolly hats and working caves
    31:00 – Working around kids, and burnout
    33:00 – Larks vs owls

    Links mentioned:

    • Pia Bramley on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/piabramley/
    • Picture Hooks (mentoring and competitions for picture book makers): https://www.picturehooks.org.uk/
    • The Blindboy Podcast: https://theblindboypodcast.ie/

    Byeeee for now!

    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    p.s. You're v welcome to make your best work ever and come and bask in your weirdness with us here: https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/freakflag

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    34 min
  18. ⚠️ Illustration scams to watch out for

    Season 13, Episode 19

    Show notes

    Ooft, this is a good one. This week we're discussing illustration scams

    We've all had them land in our inboxes, we see 'em in the Good Ship community (too) regularly, and TBH you need to know what to look out for. 👀

    Plus: Salty Dog is in actual bookshops and the Waterstones staff read it and couldn't stop laughing. Weyyy! 🎉

    Timestamps, if you like that sort of thing:

    00:00 – Why we're talking about scams (community posts, industry warnings, and everyone's inbox)
    01:30 – The Mr. Takeshi email - the famous one doing the rounds right now
    03:00 – Copy and paste a paragraph into Google. Reddit will know.
    04:00 – The overpayment scam
    04:30 – "I'm deaf, so please only email me"
    05:00 – Katie's hacked email story
    06:00 – Tania's mysterious hotel chain job
    08:30 – Vanity publishers
    10:30 – Real publishers don't advertise for illustrators on their homepage
    12:00 – Rebecca Green and legitimate self-publishing (not the same thing!)
    14:00 – "Dear Helen, I've written a book, please illustrate it" ...not a scam, but still a no
    16:00 – AI emails from Francis. Every single daaaay. Still can't unsubscribe.
    18:00 – "I'd like to buy three pieces of your artwork".
    20:00 – 🎉 Salty Dog is in Waterstones! And the staff loved it!
    21:30 – The terrible/brilliant fake Photoshop of Helen and Katie in the bookshop
    23:00 – Could Salty Dog become a Yoto card? (We think yes, and yes we are biased)

    Links mentioned:

    📚 Salty Dog by Helen Stephens and Katie Chappell - find it in all good bookshops: https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/salty-dog-and-pals-the-storm-other-stories

    🖼️ The AOI (Association of Illustrators) — good source of scam warnings: https://theaoi.com

    Byeeee for now!

    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    25 min
  19. 'They keep asking me to tone it down.' Flying your freak flag in their faces 🚩

    Season 13, Episode 18

    Show notes

    This week we're answering a brilliant voice message from @shanaramadesigns.

    Shana asks about Russian illustrator Victoria Semikina: how does someone learn to draw in that gloriously exaggerated, expressive way? And why, when she does it, does everyone love it, but when Shana tries it, art directors ask her to tone it down?

    NO FAIR.

    Happy listening :) And hellooo to Victoria - we've been chatting this week and there *might* be a special video coming to the Freak Flag course from her. EEEE!

    Watch this space! https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/freakflag

    Timestamps, for the timestamp fans:

    00:00 – Crying over Christian Robinson's new book 'Dad' (it needs a warning label)
    01:30 – Shana Rama's question: how do you learn to draw in an exaggerated, expressive way?
    03:30 – Victoria Semikina: fine art, printmaking, jazz parties, and accidentally becoming an illustrator
    05:30 – Why drawing from life filters through your personality, and why that matters
    07:30 – "Just be yourself even harder"
    09:00 – Finding publishers who love you as you are
    10:00 – British art education, the A-level folio problem, and Frieda's story
    15:30 – The exam board vs actual creativity, and feeling for students without artist parents
    17:00 – Victoria's sketchbooks the gap between rough and final is tiny (mmmm)
    18:00 – Embodying a pose while you draw: Tania channeling Tudor barmaid energy

    Links mentioned:

    🎨 Victoria Semykina on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/victoria_semykina/

    📚 Christian Robinson's book 'Dad': https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/christian-robinson/dad/9781035088393

    Byeeee for now!

    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    p.s. Doors to the Live Illustration Course are now open for enrolment! This live round kicks off on 1st June. See you in there :) https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/lic

    Come and say hello!

    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙

    20 min
  20. "I used to cry in the toilets before every job (and then I'd go draw)" - a live illustration chat with Katie

    Season 13, Episode 17

    Show notes

    This week, our Katie's chatting with Helen and Tania about her favouritest thing and specialism/niche: live illustration.

    What's it like to arrive at a fancy corporate event with an iPad (or a board and some paint), when someone says "ok, draw everything"?

    It's a proper deep-dive into the live illustration world, from the adrenalinny (new word) thrill of drawing in real time, including the crying-in-toilets. Is AI a threat to graphic recorders? Spoiler: being a human is, somehow, now a USP. 😂

    There's also a crackin' question from Joanna about being asked to work for free for a live illustration agency, and we have Thoughts.

    Timestamps, for the timestamp fans:

    00:00 – Intro and is live illustration under threat from AI? Katie's honest take
    02:00 – Being a human = a selling point
    04:00 – Hand-drawn work is more exciting to clients
    05:00 – Infographics, AI, and the kinds of work that aren't worth worrying about
    08:00 – Why Katie loves working live
    09:00 – Helen on the same feeling during school visits and drawing on stage
    11:00 – The different flavours of live illustration: corporate, fashion, wedding, events...
    12:00 – Joanna's question: should I work for free for a live illustration agency?
    14:00 – How to build your portfolio without getting trapped in the free-work loop
    15:00 – SEO for live illustrators
    17:00 – Helen's local museum project: well-paid, rooted in place, in the collection for 20 years
    21:00 – What Katie teaches in her course: synthesising information, calming your brain, and knowing what to leave out
    23:00 – How to turn corporate speak into images without just drawing a lightbulb 💡
    25:00 – Katie's favourite technique: using the page as a visual timer
    27:00 – The early fear vs the hard-won confidence (and yes, the toilet crying 😅)
    31:00 – You'll never feel ready, so just start charging anyway
    32:00 – The live illustration course opens on 15th May!

    Links mentioned:

    The Live Illustration Course: https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/lic

    Byeeee for now!

    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    p.s. Curious about live illustration but not 100% sure if it's for you? Come and join Katie for a free Live Illustration Masterclass, it's a good place to start! https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/LIM

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