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Two events have gotten Phil's attention. First, Secretary of State Marco Rubio gave a speech in Athens, Greece, about the greatness of Western civilization. Rubio celebrated pagan virtues of ancient Greece and Rome like power, competition, and ambition, but ignored Christian virtues like compassion, equality, and human dignity. Second, the National Conservative Conference featured numerous speakers extolling the godliness of nationalism and why the mistreatment of minorities may be justified. Taken together, is pagan nationalism the future of the conservative movement? Then Kaitlyn and Skye talk about her brand-new podcast, "The Better Question." Kaitlyn explains what the show is about, who it's for, and tries to find an upcoming topic or guest that an old man like Skye won't like.

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8:23 - Future of Articles on Holy Post Substack

15:22 - Rubio's Pagan Speech

40:00 - Avoiding the Problem of Difference

48:23 - Brady Rogers, Accidental Councilman

52:12 - World Relief Immigration Update with Matthew Sorens - World Relief's newest guide, Beyond the Ballot, was designed to equip you with relevant facts, tools and resources to engage immigration and displacement issues with understanding, compassion and courage: http://worldrelief.org/holypost

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59:42 - What's the New Show About?

1:11:10 - The Spiritual Value of Nuance

1:16:30 - Discussing Women's Ministry with Beth Moore

1:25:20 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Pagan Nationalism of Marco Rubio

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-pagan-nationalism-of-marco-rubios-athens-speech-dc530f58

The Man Who Didn't Want to be Elected

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/brady-rogers-satire-kelowna-campaign-win-9.7387848

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Americans are spending more time alone, inviting fewer people into their homes, and struggling to build meaningful friendships. What's behind the decline of hospitality, and what can the church do about it? Live from New York City, Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn are joined by pastor Rich Villodas to discuss the loneliness epidemic, our growing preference for digital entertainment, and why real community requires more than just joining a small group. They also explore the difference between feeling fear and being controlled by it, and why following Jesus means risking vulnerability and even getting hurt. Plus, can Skye and Kaitlyn pass Phil's news quiz?

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0:00 - Show Starts

1:44 - Ukeleles and Airports

5:40 - Theme Song

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8:05 - New York, New York

11:14 - Phil's News Quiz Show

19:39 - Rich Villodas!

22:28 - Cancelled Livestreamed Execution

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33:22 - The Death of Hosting

50:32 - Obligation and Community

1:11:17 - End Credits

Articles Discussed in News Segment:

Grandmother Breaks Planking Record:

https://people.com/grandmother-breaks-own-record-planking-world-record-at-5-hours-12170377

AI Causes Illegal Hunt: https://alaskabeacon.com/2026/09/28/misleading-google-ai-instructions-cause-kodiak-woman-to-be-cited-for-illegal-snipe-hunt/

Traffic Blocked by Giant Object:

https://nypost.com/video/giant-inflatable-pumpkin-breaks-loose-in-north-carolina/

Finnish Chef Sets World Record:

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/2026/10/chef-chugs-500-ml-of-his-favourite-orange-soda-in-just-a-few-seconds-to-claim-record

Man Sets World Record for Catching Something in His Mouth:

https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2026/10/13/guinness-world-records-david-rush-paper-planes-mouth/5211791898743/

The Decline of Dinner by Derek Thompson:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/10/americans-socialization-dinner-decline-hosting/688846/

Resources:

Rich Villodas on Lanterns:

https://substack.com/home/post/p-218929631

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Following last week's episode about the death penalty and a Southern Baptist leader calling for public executions, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth announced that the execution by firing squad of the man who killed 13 soldiers at Fort Hood in 2009 would be livestreamed. Skye is back with his take on what the Bible says about the death penalty, and why the brutality of public execution would make America more like ISIS than Jesus. Televangelist Jim Bakker died this week. Phil tells Bakker's messy story, how he exemplified the entrepreneurial spirit within evangelicalism, and even sings a song about Bakker's scandals. John Mark Comer is back to discuss his new book, "Into the Quiet: Following Jesus in a world of noise." He explains why the modern church has abandoned the discipline of silence, and why we need it now more than ever. Also this week—kids, coloring books, and communion at Kaitlyn's wedding.

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0:00 - Show Starts

5:40 - Theme Song

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7:44 - Livestreamed Executions

19:46 - Executions in The Past

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32:02 - Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker

41:42 - Phil's Lost Bakker Song

47:00 - The Bakkers and Trump

53:19 - Interview

55:42 - Into the Quiet: Following Jesus in a World of Noise

1:04:04 - Starting Your Spiritual Formation

1:13:28 - Our Fear of Silence

1:28:58 - End Credits

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Articles Discussed in News Segment:

Andrew Walker on the Death Penalty:

https://eppc.org/publication/what-the-modern-state-gets-wrong-about-execution/

Resources:

Into the Quiet: Following Jesus in a World of Noise by John Mark Comer: https://amzn.to/3VOepF6

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Why is Pope Leo drawing massive crowds in one of the most secular countries in Europe? Phil, Kaitlyn, and Mike Erre talk about the Pope's surprising celebrity in France and whether people are becoming more open to Christianity when they see it lived with sincerity and conviction. Then, after a botched execution in Tennessee, some Christian leaders are calling for a return to public hangings and firing squads. Is the death penalty really demanded by Christian theology, or does the gospel call Christians toward a different vision of justice and mercy? Finally, Skye talks with Todd Deatherage about escalating settler violence in the West Bank, the political fallout from the Iran war, and why support for Israel is shifting across the American political spectrum. And Phil has found a Chihuahua with a very important job.

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3:48 - The Mexican National Guard's Cutest Agent

21:30 - Christians and the Death Penalty

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36:30 - Eye for an Eye?

52:23 - Interview

53:53 - Update on Gaza and the West Bank

1:01:30 - Is a Two-State Solution Still Possible?

1:15:22 - Israel's Election

1:25:51 - End Credits

Articles Discussed in News Segment:

Mexico's National Guard's Cutest Member:

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cke878yzngd8o

The Death Penalty:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2026/10/what-the-modern-state-gets-wrong-about-execution/

Resources:

Telos Group: https://www.telosgroup.org/

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Is empathy becoming a liability in American Christianity? Phil, Kaitlyn, and Mike Erre discuss the growing backlash against empathy and why some conservatives argue that too much compassion can lead to bad politics, bad theology, and even the decline of Western civilization. They also look at Russell Moore's warning about the "fear-driven church" and how anxiety about God, outsiders, and our own communities can shape the way Christians think and behave. Then, Kaitlyn talks with psychologist Alison Cook about attachment theory, the limits of human relationships, and why no other person can give us the security we ultimately need. Plus, what Lewis and Clark's bathroom habits can teach us about American history.

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4:53 - Writing in Epcot?

7:05 - News of the Hindquarters

12:45 - The Anti-Empathy Movement

20:05 - Christianity and "Western Civilization?"

37:21 - The "Fear-Driven Church"

51:13 - Interview

56:21 - Therapy Culture and the Church

1:03:44 - Security in Christ

1:24:58 - End Credits

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Articles Discussed in News Segment:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/09/maga-right-christianity-empathy-toxic/688755/

Resources:

The Secure Soul: Finding Inner Strength and Connection When Trust Doesn't Come Easy by Alison Cook: https://amzn.to/3VjvuXi

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Podcast hosts, ASSEMBLE! Phil, Skye, Kaitlyn, and Esau come together to debrief the new books by Kristen Kobes Du Mez, Bonnie Kristian, and Charlie Dates, as well as their recent interviews on The Holy Post. They each critique or defend evangelicalism, but who's right? Is evangelicalism worth fixing? Does the current debate unknowingly center only white experiences of evangelicalism? And is evangelicalism even a thing, or just a category pollsters made up? Plus, the team wrestles with their own responsibility and calling in the Christian media marketplace.

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4:29 - Phil's Mysterious Illness

5:37 - The State of Evangelicalism

16:40 - What Sells

21:32 - Evangelicalism vs. the Mainline

26:04 - Would You Raise Your Child Evangelical?

30:20 - Moved by Media or Always Corrupt?

40:50 - What's the Better Question?

51:08 - What's the Takeaway?

1:05:49 - End Credits

Books Discussed in News Segment:

In Defense of Evangelicalism by Bonnie Kristian: https://amzn.to/47aShaj

Live, Laugh, Love by Kristin Kobes Du Mez: https://amzn.to/4xFicC0

What Has Justice to Do with Righteousness? by Charlie Dates: https://amzn.to/46FB6NV

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Following the 9/11 terrorist attack 25 years ago, Americans began using more "good versus evil" rhetoric, but have we taken it too far? Many of the tech bros developing AI were fans of sci-fi novels and movies in middle school, but completely missed the point of those stories. We may all pay the price. Bonnie Kristian, the deputy editor at Christianity Today, returns to discuss her new book "In Defense of Evangelicalism." While she agrees with many of the recent criticisms of the movement, she says the problems within evangelicalism are bugs rather than features and believes its critics have gone too far.

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3:48 - Chuck Todd on the SkyePod

8:22 - 9/11's 25th Anniversary

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28:55 - Living in Bad Science Fiction

52:20 - Interview

1:00:38 - Reform or Destruction?

1:13:45 - The Wal-Mart of Christianity

1:34:36 - Are Critics the Bigger Problem?

1:37:51 - End Credits

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Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Sci-fi and Tech Oligarchs:

https://www.theatlantic.com/books/2026/08/silicon-valley-science-fiction-jill-lepore-book-review/688467/

Other Resources:

In Defense of Evangelicalism: A Response to Its Cultured Despisers by Bonnie Kristian: https://amzn.to/4xkkFRX

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Historian Kristin Kobes Du Mez, author of the best-selling "Jesus and John Wayne," is back with another look at the forces that shaped modern American evangelicalism. This time she explores the backstory of evangelical femininity in her new book, "Live Laugh Love: The Secret History of White Christian Women and the World They Made." Also this week: Phil wants to know what links three recent celebrity deaths—Dolly Parton, Gloria Steinem, and Wendell Berry. To the surprise of many, The Christian Post has published an anti-Christian nationalist article. Is it a sign that the evangelical support for MAGA is finally turning? Plus, weird science awards.

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7:26 - Quirky Science!

13:10 - Christian Post Anti-Nationalism Article?

27:39 - Dolly, Wendell, and Gloria, Oh My!

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36:32 - Why Didn't Christians like Gloria Steinem?

54:44 - Interview

1:28:44 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Weird Science! (No relation to the song or movie):

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2026-09-05/research-on-cockroach-milk-nose-blowing-wins-ig-nobel-prizes

Christian Post article on Christian Nationalism: https://www.christianpost.com/voices/christian-nationalism-already-failed-america-once.html

Hannah Anderson on Dolly and Wendell: https://hannahanderson.substack.com/p/dolly-and-wendell

Other Resources:

Live Laugh Love: The Secret History of White Christian Women and the World They Made by Kristin Kobes Du Mez: https://amzn.to/4xNdx1E

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Why are the Christians who profess right doctrine about God often the most opposed to social justice in his name? That contradiction is at the heart of Charlie Dates' new book. He talks with Skye about how separating justice and righteousness is damaging both white evangelicalism and young black activists. Also this week: Reflections on the wisdom of Dolly Parton, why religious tolerance isn't enough to heal America's divisions, and the difficulty of being an introvert within evangelicalism.

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3:43 - Dolly Parton's Legacy

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29:30 - When do We Become the Person We Ought to Be?

43:06 - Covenantal Pluralism

52:38 - Interview

1:02:57 - White Evangelical Blindness

1:09:17 - MLK50

1:15:00 - Waning Interest in Justice

1:22:00 - Fearing God vs. People

1:28:22 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Morality, reflection, and age:

https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/when-do-we-become-the-person-we-ought

Covenantal Pluralism: The Geopolitics of Interfaith Religious Freedom by Iqbal Akhtar:

https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-032-31479-6

Other Resources:

What Hath Justice to Do with Righteousness?: Reclaiming the Intersection of Protest and Prayer by Charlie Dates: https://amzn.to/4zPhVym

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Socialism appears to be having a moment with a recent CNN poll finding that one-third of Democratic voters now consider themselves "democratic socialists." But what does socialism believe, and is it compatible with Christianity? Kaitlyn interviews Matthew Loftus about pop psychology and how the spread of therapy culture can distort the Christian life. Also this week: After shutting down U.S.A.I.D., why is the Trump administration now increasing funding to Christian relief agencies? Why do conservatives have more children than liberals? And would you like cake in your shake?

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4:13 - Taste-Testing a Dr. Pepper Milkshake

8:33 - Trump Sends Money to Christian Orgs

18:09 - Socialism: what even is it?

29:50 - DSA's Weird Platform

44:40 - Dogs Vs. Babies (Dogs are Winning)

52:09 - Interview

56:33 - Examples of Therapy Culture

1:04:54 - Clinical Therapy vs Therapy Culture

1:27:13 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

After Aid Cuts, Trump Sends Money to Christian Orgs:

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/08/world-vision-usaid-cuts-christian-ngos-trump-hiv/

Jesuits on Democratic Socialism:

https://www.americamagazine.org/short-take/2026/08/18/democratic-socialists-america-catholic-social-teaching/

Liberals vs Conservatives on Having Kids:

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/2026/08/fertility-gap-conservative-liberal/688334/

Other Resources:

Resisting Therapy Culture: The Dangers of Pop Psychology and How the Church Can Respond by Matthew Loftus:

https://amzn.to/4iscEqn

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Dating apps were supposed to make romance easier, but have they actually made men and women worse at dating? Kaitlyn Schiess takes over the host chair with Skye Jethani and Mike Erre to talk about Bumble's decision to let men make the first move and why modern dating culture seems to be leaving everyone frustrated. Then they turn to AI and ask what happens when people start outsourcing friendship, advice, and intimacy to chatbots, and why churchgoing Christians may be especially eager to trust the technology. Later, Kaitlyn talks with musicologist Kelsey McGinnis about the resurgence of contemporary Christian music and artists like Forrest Frank and Brandon Lake who are introducing CCM to a new generation. What makes Christian music "Christian," and can worship, celebrity, money, and the music industry coexist without corrupting one another?

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48:19 - Interview

55:25 - What is CCM?

1:00:06 - Forest Frank

1:20:06 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Bumble's Big Change:

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/2026/08/bumble-dating-app-men-message-first/688298/

Evangelicals and the Machine God: https://mereorthodoxy.com/american-evangelicals-long-for-the-embrace-of-the-machine-god/

Christian Co-Living:

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/08/christian-co-living-housing-crisis/

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Kelsey Kramer McGinnis Website: https://www.kkramermcginnis.com/

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Since the 1980s, the Republican Party has increasingly been associated with Christianity, while the Democratic Party has distanced itself from religious rhetoric to be more inclusive. But is that changing? This year, a surprising number of pastors are running for Congress as Democrats, and they are not shy about infusing their campaigns with faith. Republicans eager to protect their brand are fighting back by calling these progressive clergy candidates "PINOs"—Pastors in Name Only. In related news, Ryan Burge reveals surprising data about the political views of mainline ministers. Kaitlyn interviews counterterrorism expert Elizabeth Neumann about the rise of political violence, how the threats in the U.S. are changing, and how churches can be part of the solution. Also this week—the world's slowest concert reaches a milestone.

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57:16 - Interview

59:05 - Non-Idealogical Violence

1:08:20 - Definition of Political Violence

1:14:20 - How People Get Radicalized

1:27:07 - How Should We Respond?

1:36:24 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

600-Year Long Organ Piece

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68209691

PINO Pastors? https://religionnews.com/2026/08/04/pastors-name-only-republican-attacks-democrat-pastors/

How Liberal are Mainline Clergy?

https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/mainline-clergy-are-different-and

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Elizabeth Neumann's Website: https://elizabethneumann.org/

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The age of generic, non-denominational Christianity may be coming to an end. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss why Christians are increasingly drawn to narrower theological identities, and whether the internet is turning legitimate doctrinal differences into purity tests and church fights. Then, the crew opens the mailbag to answer whether prenuptial agreements are compatible with Christian marriage and if praying in public is an authentic expression of faith or an uncomfortable performance. They also consider what Christians should read to better understand the end times and why Jesus supplied wine to an already-drunk wedding party. Also this week, why the VeggieTales have nothing to fear from the cyclosporiasis outbreak.

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22:33 - Christian Prenups?

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33:33 - Did Jesus Get People Drunk?

46:05 - Praying in Front of Non-Christians?

52:07 - What Liquid Would You Dispense from Your Fingers?

55:43 - End Credits

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"Big Eva" may be fading, but a new generation of online Christian influencers is taking its place. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the rise of "Gig Eva," how digital platforms are reshaping Christian authority, and why accountability to real churches and communities still matters. Then, the number of words people speak each day is dropping as more of everyday life moves online. The crew considers what we lose when convenience replaces even the smallest human interactions. Then, Skye talks with behavioral scientist Nicholas Epley about why conversations with strangers usually go better than we expect. They discuss how small choices to connect with others can make us happier, healthier, and less divided. Also this week, a new explosive ocean discovery.

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34:08 - Humans are talking less!

45:46 - Interview

52:07 - The "Quiet Car" on the Train

59:17 - The Power of Reciprocity

1:08:51 - Testing for Yourself

1:17:07 - Technology's Role in This

1:31:52 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Orcas Raming Into Sunfish:

https://www.npr.org/2026/07/24/nx-s1-5905327/orcas-ram-sunfish-hard-explodes

From Big Eva to Gig Eva:

https://firstthings.com/goodbye-big-eva-hello-gig-eva/

Humans Speaking Fewer Words:

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/2026/07/talking-less-reasons/688074/

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Why was there almost no emphasis on "church growth" before the 1970s, and how does the fixation on it for the last 40 years correspond with the American economy? Skye talks with Andrew Root about his new book, "Baal and the Gods of More," about the link between the modern church growth movement and ancient pagan fertility gods. A new report by Ryan Burge says that for decades those who left the church were turned off by partisan politics and the religious right, but that trend might be changing. Also this week, Brazil blames its poor performance in the World Cup on evangelicals, European evangelicals issue a statement, and an old theory about early Christianity and psychedelic mushrooms is back.

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12:52 - Brazil Blames Evangelicals for Soccer Failure?

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49:38 - Interview

54:32- Fertility Gods

1:02:09 - Capitalism and False Gods

1:18:26 - The Rise and Fall of American Growth

1:31:52 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Popular Science Posits Jesus was a Psychedelic Mushroom:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/culture/a69061008/god-sacred-mushroom-christianity-debate/

Did Evangelicals Ruin Brazil's Soccer Performance?

https://religionnews.com/2026/07/17/some-world-cup-fans-are-blaming-brazils-loss-on-evangelicals/

European Evangelicals Differentiate from American Evangelicals:

https://religionunplugged.com/news/european-evangelicals-draw-a-clear-distinction-from-their-american-counterparts

Other Resources:

Baal and the Gods of More: Rescuing Church Growth from Idolatry (A Theological Critique of Modern Ministry Metrics and Success-Driven Strategies) by Andrew Root:

https://a.co/d/0c0ijKLw

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Some of the Apostle Paul's letters in the Bible can be defensive, sarcastic, and even mean. New Testament scholar Scot McKnight says his nasty tone may stem from deep pain. But Paul's trauma wasn't caused by the persecution of nonbelievers but by fellow Christians. He offers Skye an illuminating look into what the apostle can teach us about church trauma today. Mike Erre joins the podcast crew to discuss the declining support for Israel among American Christians, the weird work of VR missionaries, a theory about aliveness that challenges introverts, and a robot that responds when nature calls.

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23:04 - Americans Less Supportive of Israel

28:56 - Prosperity Gospel and Israel

36:10 - Aliveness and Where to Find it

50:19 - Interview

52:30 - Damaged Leaders

1:03:25 - Paul and Trauma

1:15:44 - Prescriptive vs Descriptive

1:27:54 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Aliveness:

https://benbyfax.substack.com/p/aliveness

Christian Support for Israel Plummets:

https://religionnews.com/2026/07/09/new-polls-show-plummeting-support-among-faith-groups-for-israeli-government-netanyahu/

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Traumatized Church: What Paul's Relationship with the Corinthian Church Teaches Us About Helping Those Who are Hurting by Scot McKnight: https://amzn.to/4pltGYx

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Two members of Congress, one Republican and one Democrat, had a meeting recently where they fundamentally disagreed about the meaning of the sheep and the goats in Matthew 25. Their disagreement has now spilled into the media. Why has this chapter of the Bible become the new dividing line between Christians in the public square? Kaityn interviews Tish Harrison Warren about her new book about Christian resilience and what disillusioned believers can learn from the desert mothers and fathers. And fifty years ago, the media declared 1976 the "Year of the Evangelicals." The Holy Post crew discusses one historian's look back at that year and debates whether it was really the turning point for American evangelicalism.

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30:37 - Does Matthew 25 Apply to Nations?

46:20 - Interview

49:42 - Weariness

56:30 - Desert Mothers and Fathers

1:04:00 - What is Acedia?

1:19:13 - Become All Flame

1:29:17 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Growing Divide Over Matthew 25:

https://religionnews.com/2026/07/01/in-congress-a-growing-divide-over-matthew-25/

Christianity Today on the Turning Point for Evangelicalism:

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/06/1976-was-a-turning-point-for-evangelicalism-george-marsden-history/

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What Grows in Weary Lands: On Christian Resilience by Tish Harrison Warren:

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The United States is turning 250 this week, but the country is divided about the anniversary. Should the country celebrate or lament? Historian Robert Tracy McKenzie joins Skye to talk about the ongoing fight over how to tell America's story, why we reject nuance, and what he saw at the Rededicate 250 event in Washington, D.C. that made him concerned. Kaitlyn offers her take on a New York Times interview with Louise Perry about rethinking the sexual revolution. Perry argues, as a non-believer, for the recovery of sexual ethics that seem very Christian. What does that say about our culture's fatigue with secularism? Also this week—AI finds proof that your parents were right about the music you listen to, and the World Cup is revealing the decency of average Americans.

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11:24 - Pop Music's Moral Slide

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54:09 - Interview

58:10 - Unblemished America

1:03:15 - Credal or Racial Nation?

1:11:40 - Founding Father's Private Faith

1:19:53 - Wanting a Positive Vision

1:28:08 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Louise Perry on the Sexual Revolution:

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/25/opinion/gender-sexual-revolution-men-women.html

Pop Music has Become Less Moral:

https://www.newsweek.com/music-has-got-nastier-since-60s-study-says-12119675

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How America Gave Up on Its Own History:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/07/american-history-common-narrative/687301/

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Over the last decade, white evangelicals in the U.S. have lost their moral credibility. In response, Peter Wehner says the church should embrace a form of "Christian humanism." The Holy Post crew discusses his article, what he gets right, and why that label may be a barrier for some. Kaitlyn interviews biblical scholar Michael Rhodes about his book,"Reimagining Biblical Politics: What Scripture Says About Public Life and Why It Matters." Rather than looking to specific verses to define our political positions, Rhodes says we must allow all of Scripture to shape our imaginations and then use discernment as we engage our unique political context. Also this week—controversy over the design of the Obama Presidential Center in Chicago, how faith-based apps are gamifying Christianity, and the benefits of talking to dogs.

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5:57 - Talking to Dogs Makes Ya Smart?

11:41 - Obama Presidential Center

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57:22 - Interview

1:04:42 - What Do We Mean by "Politics?"

1:15:40 - The Ambiguity of Esther

1:23:30 - Scripture Transforms Politics

1:34:26 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

The Commodification of Christianity:

https://www.freyaindia.co.uk/p/the-commodification-of-christianity

American Christians Face a Choice:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/06/christian-humanism-trump-choice/687475/

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Last year, the President celebrated his birthday with a military parade. This year, he hosted a UFC cage match on the South Lawn of the White House. It's easy to compare it to the gladiator games honoring the Roman emperor, but Phil asks whether it's a sign that America would rather emulate pre-Christian Roman values than biblical ones. Americans can no longer agree on how to teach American history, so we're not teaching it much at all. Is it possible to recover a shared national story? Nijay Gupta is back to discuss his latest book, "Paul for the World," and why the Apostle would not recognize a modern Christianity that's focused on heaven rather than earth. Also this week—the science behind dad jokes.

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32:17 - "American Dream" Finding Cuts

35:02 - What Story is America Telling?

52:16 - Interview

57:46 - Is Social Justice Christian?

1:06:20 - Epicureans and Stoics

1:14:33 - Bonhauffer and the Incarnate Church

1:28:15 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Sciences Supports Dad Jokes:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2026/06/15/science-suggests-cringe-worthy-dad-jokes-may-serve-an-actual-purpose/

No Common American Narrative:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/07/american-history-common-narrative/687301/

Other Resources:

Paul for the World: A Grounded Vision for Finding Meaning in This Life—Not Just the Next (What Paul's Letters Say about Work, Friendship, Money, Wellness, Justice, and More) by Nijay Gupta:

https://amzn.to/3RZR8ON

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