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The Investing for Beginners Podcast - Your Path to Financial Freedom
The Investing for Beginners Podcast teaches you how to buy your first stocks and build long-term wealth in the stock market— without the hype or confusing jargon.
Hosts Andrew Sather and Stephen Morris break down value investing fundamentals into plain English: how to read financial statements, value a company, avoid common beginner mistakes, and build a long-term portfolio you can actually stick with.
Plus, in our At Any Rate episodes with host Evan Raidt, we tackle the personal finance side of wealth building— paying off debt, budgeting, saving, and the money debates every household faces before (and while) investing.
Stop chasing "get-rich-quick" schemes and start building your path to financial freedom, one episode at a time. Follow for more.
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- #103
- Episodes
- 783
- Releases
- Twice a week
- Typical length
- 52 min
- On air since
- 2017
- Latest episode
- 16 hours ago
Episodes
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52 min
AAR 74 - What to Do When Debt Gets Unmanageable
Show notes
Andrew hosts solo this week — no Evan — with special guest Bruce McClary, Senior VP of Media Relations at the NFCC. Bruce has spent his career on both sides of the debt conversation, as a debt collector and now as a credit counselor, and he brings a behind-the-trenches look at the state of the economy: one group of Americans is doing fine, while a growing group is running monthly budget deficits, draining savings, and leaning on credit cards charging over 20% interest. The message of the episode is simple and urgent: time is not your friend when debt starts sliding, so reach out for help before you miss a payment — and the first step is a lot less scary than most people think.
What You Will Learn
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The two-sided economy: who's doing fine, who's falling behind, and the numbers that show it.
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Why waiting for next month to get better is the worst strategy when you're already running a deficit.
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The first practical step: pick up the phone and talk to your creditor before you miss a payment.
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How to get past the shame and embarrassment of asking for help with money.
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What a real debt payoff looks like: $40,000 in credit card debt, cleared in about five years without bankruptcy.
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Why AI can't replace a credentialed professional for debt negotiation — and where it can actually help.
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What a budget review really looks like, and where to get one free.
Timestamps
00:00 — The state of the economy, from behind the trenches
03:06 — The warning signs: 60% debt-to-income ratios and $90–130 monthly deficits
07:01 — Time is not your friend: reach out before you miss a payment
10:10 — The first practical step: call your creditor
14:32 — Getting past the shame of asking for help
16:15 — A way out: $40,000 in credit card debt, debt-free in five years
24:09 — Bootstraps run out: get a second opinion before you act
28:02 — Can AI negotiate with your debt collectors?
33:29 — Budgeting, the B-word: what a real budget review looks like
40:24 — Can't afford an advisor? The free first session
41:52 — Where to get help: nfcc.org, 1-800-388-2227, and the Financial Health Navigator
44:58 — Fun question: what should someone build with AI to help people get out of debt?
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter: https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter//
Free monthly budgeting spreadsheet: https://einvestingforbeginners.com/budget/
Email Evan: evan@einvestingforbeginners.com
Have questions or want your story featured? Email the show at newsletter@einvestingforbeginners.com or comment below. Your feedback shapes the podcast!
Remember, financial freedom is built one smart move at a time. Keep it simple, keep it steady, and at any rate, we’ll see you next time.
Timestamps are generated by artificial intelligence, and are not 100% accurate depending on the platform used for listening.
Today’s show is sponsored by:
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46 min
The 2026 Investor Draft: Whose Team Would You Trust With Your Life Savings?
Show notes
Stephen and Andrew settle their fantasy football trash talk the only way they can — with a fantasy draft of a different kind. Going back and forth, no repeats, they each build a five-investor dream team, from the obvious first pick to a few sleepers most listeners have never heard of. Along the way they break down what made each investor great, what lesson to steal from them, and why some of the best picks fell further down the board than they should have.
What You Will Learn
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Why Warren Buffett is the unanimous number one pick — and why his ability to teach complex ideas simply matters as much as his returns
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How Peter Lynch outworked everyone on Wall Street, and why flipping over as many rocks as you can still creates an edge today
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What Benjamin Graham invented, and why knowing the companies you own inside and out is still the foundation of value investing
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Why John Templeton is the original global bargain hunter, and how contrarian buying when everyone else is panicking pays off
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How George Soros used reflexivity — and knowing when he was wrong — to compound at 30% a year for over 30 years
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What Charlie Munger's mental models and study of biases can teach you about mastering yourself as an investor
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How Philip Fisher's scuttlebutt method and checklist help you see things about a company no one else is seeing
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Why Bill Ackman focuses on high-quality businesses at a decent price, and what that looks like in practice
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How Stanley Druckenmiller put together one of the best track records in investing — 30% a year for 30 years, never a down year
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Who Paul Cabot is, and how he grew Harvard's endowment from $200 million to $1 billion in 17 years
Timestamps
07:23 — Welcome back, fantasy football revenge, and the investor draft idea
09:59 — Stephen's first pick: Warren Buffett
13:17 — Andrew's first pick: Peter Lynch
17:35 — Stephen's second pick: Benjamin Graham
22:53 — Andrew's second pick: John Templeton
28:07 — Stephen's third pick: George Soros
36:36 — Andrew's third pick: Charlie Munger
40:30 — Stephen's fourth pick: Philip Fisher
42:46 — Andrew's fourth pick: Bill Ackman
44:29 — Stephen's fifth pick: Stanley Druckenmiller
47:00 — Andrew's fifth pick: Paul Cabot
49:07 — Who won? Let us know in the comments
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter:https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter/
Have questions or want your story featured? Email the show at newsletter@einvestingforbeginners.com or comment below. Your feedback shapes the podcast!
Remember, invest with a margin of safety—emphasis on the safety. Have a great week, and we’ll talk to you next time.
Timestamps are generated by artificial intelligence, and are not 100% accurate depending on the platform used for listening.
Today’s show is sponsored by:
Download Cash App Today: https://click.cash.app/ui6m/0th4z72y #CashAppPod As a Cash App partner, I may earn a commission when you sign up for a Cash App account. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Bitcoin services provided by Block, Inc. For additional information, see the Bitcoin disclosures.
Shopify: Stop waiting for permission to build something. Your next revenue stream starts for free at http://shopify.com/beginners
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Take your investing up a notch with MooMoo — commission-free trading, pro-level research tools, and real-time market data, all in one app. Get started at start.moomoo.com/BEGINNERS
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45 min
The Language of Business, Part 2: Why Your Stock Goes Nowhere
Show notes
Stephen and Andrew walk down the income statement — the second stop in the Language of Business series — to show you exactly where money hides, where it bleeds, and how to spot a company that's working for its management instead of its shareholders. Starting from a simple question — how can sales and profits both grow 10% while your stock goes nowhere? — they break the statement into its three sections, compare Apple's clean income statement with Snapchat's stock-comp-heavy one, and build a plain-English mental model plus a 3-question checklist you can use on any company.
What You Will Learn
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How to read an income statement top to bottom: revenue, gross profit, operating profit, and net income
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Why your stock can go nowhere even when sales and profits grow — dilution and stock-based compensation
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What gross margin tells you about pricing power, and why it varies so much by industry
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How operating leverage works: when operating income grows faster than revenue
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Where to find stock-based compensation and shares outstanding — and the red flags to watch
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When buybacks create real growth, and when they're just covering up dilution
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Stephen's $1 mental model and the 3-question checklist for any income statement
Timestamps
00:00 — Why the income statement frustrates everyone
05:42 — The three profits: gross, operating, and net
07:17 — The brewery test: flat revenue, healthy or weak?
08:32 — Margins and benchmarks: what "good" actually means
10:06 — Gross margin by industry, and Apple's two businesses
14:29 — Volume vs. margin: Costco, Dick's, and Academy
17:30 — OpEx: R&D, SG&A, and operating leverage
21:22 — Snapchat's R&D bet and operating leverage
23:20 — Operating leverage in plain English
25:30 — Net income: interest, taxes, and one-offs
27:37 — One-offs as a capital-allocation signal
30:20 — Share dilution: why Andrew hates it
32:05 — Where to find SBC and shares outstanding
34:01 — Buybacks: when they work and when they don't
39:10 — The $1 mental model
40:20 — The 3-question checklist, your comments, and next time: balance sheets
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter:https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter/
Have questions or want your story featured? Email the show at newsletter@einvestingforbeginners.com or comment below. Your feedback shapes the podcast!
Remember, invest with a margin of safety—emphasis on the safety. Have a great week, and we’ll talk to you next time.
Timestamps are generated by artificial intelligence, and are not 100% accurate depending on the platform used for listening.
Today’s show is sponsored by:
Download Cash App Today: https://click.cash.app/ui6m/0th4z72y #CashAppPod As a Cash App partner, I may earn a commission when you sign up for a Cash App account. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Bitcoin services provided by Block, Inc. For additional information, see the Bitcoin disclosures.
Shopify: Stop waiting for permission to build something. Your next revenue stream starts for free at http://shopify.com/beginners
Turn your biggest monthly expense into rewards. Bilt lets you earn points on rent payments with no transaction fees, redeemable for travel, fitness classes, and more at joinbilt.com/investing
Supercharge your productivity and automate your daily tasks by building custom AI agents in your all-in-one workspace at https://notion.com/investing
Take your investing up a notch with MooMoo — commission-free trading, pro-level research tools, and real-time market data, all in one app. Get started at start.moomoo.com/BEGINNERS
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55 min
AAR73 - When to Optimize and Wing It
Show notes
Evan and Andrew take on optimization — the urge to squeeze every last drop out of every financial decision. Sometimes optimizing now pays off massively over time. Other times it's a recipe for a mediocre gain and a drastic increase in stress and time spent. In this episode, they run through seven everyday financial decisions and sort them into three buckets: worth optimizing, good enough, and not worth the trouble — with diminishing returns and real-life trade-offs in mind.
What You Will Learn
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Credit card rewards / churning: NOT worth it. Limited upside for long-term wealth building, with real downside — it baits you into spending more than you otherwise would, and hopping from card to card hurts your credit score.
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401(k) contributions: Good enough for most. Get the employer match, contribute a comfortable percentage (around 6%), and invest additional savings elsewhere where you can actually reach them before retirement. Max it out only if you're a high earner and it doesn't squeeze your life.
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Roth IRA contributions: WORTH optimizing. The best of the bunch, within reason and after your emergency fund and bills are covered. The annual max is low compared to a 401(k), the money grows tax-free, and you can pull out your contributions anytime, tax-free and penalty-free.
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Budgeting: Set it up, keep it sustainable, and stop there. The early decisions are powerful and low-effort. Optimizing to the nth degree gets exponentially more painful for almost no extra gain. Fudge factors are your friend.
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Taxes: Use a tax professional; don't DIY-optimize the tax code. Tax optimization is wealth-keeping, not wealth-building, and a write-off is never free money.
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Investing early: WORTH optimizing. Time matters more than amount. Even small amounts, started early — even for your kids — compound into life-changing numbers.
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Insurance shopping: Shop if you're clearly overpaying; otherwise skip it. A couple of hours to save hundreds a month is worth it. Hours of applications to save $10–20 a month is not.
Timestamps
00:00 — What "good enough" really means
07:00 — Credit card rewards and churning
12:00 — 401(k) contributions
18:00 — Roth IRA contributions (the one worth optimizing)
23:00 — Budgeting (and permission to buy the stick of gum)
31:00 — Taxes and the tax code
38:00 — Investing early (compound interest, the eighth wonder)
45:00 — Shopping for insurance
51:00 — Close: one smart move at a time
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter: https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter/
Free monthly budgeting spreadsheet: https://einvestingforbeginners.com/budget/
Email Evan: evan@einvestingforbeginners.com
Have questions or want your story featured? Email the show at newsletter@einvestingforbeginners.com or comment below. Your feedback shapes the podcast!
Remember, financial freedom is built one smart move at a time. Keep it simple, keep it steady, and at any rate, we’ll see you next time.
Timestamps are generated by artificial intelligence, and are not 100% accurate depending on the platform used for listening.
Today’s show is sponsored by:
Download Cash App Today: https://click.cash.app/ui6m/0th4z72y #CashAppPod As a Cash App partner, I may earn a commission when you sign up for a Cash App account. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Bitcoin services provided by Block, Inc. For additional information, see the Bitcoin disclosures.
Shopify: Stop waiting for permission to build something. Your next revenue stream starts for free at shopify.com/beginners
Turn your biggest monthly expense into rewards. Bilt lets you earn points on rent payments with no transaction fees, redeemable for travel, fitness classes, and more at joinbilt.com/investing
Supercharge your productivity and automate your daily tasks by building custom AI agents in your all-in-one workspace at https://notion.com/investing
Take your investing up a notch with MooMoo — commission-free trading, pro-level research tools, and real-time market data, all in one app. Get started at start.moomoo.com/BEGINNERS
Sending money across borders? Wise gives you the real exchange rate with low, transparent fees and no hidden markups. Join millions managing money globally at wise.com
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58 min
Solar Is Now the Cheapest Power on Earth — with Peter Davidson
Show notes
Renewable energy has gone from expensive science project to the cheapest way to build power in America — and most investors still don't understand how the business actually works. In this interview, Andrew sits down with Peter Davidson, CEO of Aligned Climate Capital, to break down the economics of solar power: how solar farms actually make money (it's more like building a rental apartment than a tech startup), why over 90% of new US power generation being built is wind, solar, and batteries, how AI and data centers are driving a 5x surge in electricity demand, and the risks investors need to watch — permitting, NIMBYism, and interest rates. They also get into the grid (built for one day a year), virtual power plants, advanced geothermal, small modular nuclear, and the public companies worth knowing. Whether you're a beginner or a seasoned investor, this is the cleanest walkthrough of the energy transition we've put out.
What You Will Learn
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How a solar farm actually makes money — the offtake-agreement model, explained like a rental apartment
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Why solar and wind are now the cheapest ways to build new power (the curves have crossed)
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Why over 90% of new US power generation is wind, solar, and batteries — and what that means for investors
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How AI and data centers are driving electricity demand growth from 0.5% to 2.5% per year (a 5x jump)
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Why a solar farm gets built in 6 months while a gas plant takes 2–3 years (and gas turbines have a 4–6 year backlog)
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The real risks: permitting, NIMBYism, and why interest rates are the number to watch
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How the grid works — and why it was built for a single peak day each year
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What virtual power plants are, and why your home battery could sell power back to the grid
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What's next: advanced geothermal, small modular nuclear, and higher-upside energy bets
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The public companies Peter names: Nextracker, NextEra, Bloom Energy, Hannon Armstrong
Timestamps
00:00 — What's happening in renewable energy
02:31 — What most investors don't understand about solar power
04:52 — Solar is now ~13% of US electricity (up from 1–2%)
07:31 — "Building a solar farm is like building a rental apartment"
09:01 — The input of solar power is free
10:52 — Over 90% of new US power built is wind, solar, and battery
11:39 — Are we running out of land for solar?
14:27 — Wind farm myths: noise, bird kills, and cats
16:39 — Agrivoltaics: farming and solar on the same land
19:03 — Energy demand growth going from 0.5% to 2.5% (a 5x jump)
22:42 — Gas turbine backlog: 4–6 years from GE or Siemens
25:00 — Aligned's two strategies: buying solar farms + venture investing
28:31 — Public companies to know: Nextracker, NextEra, Bloom Energy
32:47 — Higher upside, higher risk opportunities in energy
37:14 — Utility companies as investments
41:25 — The grid: the greatest machine ever built (and it's built for peak)
45:48 — Why doesn't every home have a battery?
47:51 — The urban challenge: renters, apartments, and city EV charging
49:01 — How high can solar's 13% share realistically go?
49:27 — Australia hits 100% renewables at times of day
50:52 — EVs: 1 in 4 cars sold globally is now electric
52:58 — The risk investors must watch: interest rates
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter:https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter/
Aligned Climate Capital: https://alignedclimatecapital.com/
Have questions or want your story featured? Email the show at newsletter@einvestingforbeginners.com or comment below. Your feedback shapes the podcast!
Remember, invest with a margin of safety—emphasis on the safety. Have a great week, and we’ll talk to you next time.
Timestamps are generated by artificial intelligence, and are not 100% accurate depending on the platform used for listening.
Today’s show is sponsored by:
Download Cash App Today: https://click.cash.app/ui6m/0th4z72y #CashAppPod As a Cash App partner, I may earn a commission when you sign up for a Cash App account. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Bitcoin services provided by Block, Inc. For additional information, see the Bitcoin disclosures.
Shopify: Stop waiting for permission to build something. Your next revenue stream starts for free at http://shopify.com/beginners
Turn your biggest monthly expense into rewards. Bilt lets you earn points on rent payments with no transaction fees, redeemable for travel, fitness classes, and more at joinbilt.com/investing
Supercharge your productivity and automate your daily tasks by building custom AI agents in your all-in-one workspace at https://notion.com/investing
Take your investing up a notch with MooMoo — commission-free trading, pro-level research tools, and real-time market data, all in one app. Get started at start.moomoo.com/BEGINNERS
Sending money across borders? Wise gives you the real exchange rate with low, transparent fees and no hidden markups. Join millions managing money globally at http://wise.com
Interested in how your company sponsor the show? Reach us at equity@einvestingforbeginners.com
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46 min
The Language of Business, Part 1: Accounting Doesn't Have to Suck
Show notes
There's one thing Andrew and Stephen can talk about that instantly puts everybody to sleep: accounting. Spreadsheets, debits, credits — boring. But it's also the single most important skill an investor can build, because accounting is the language every business on earth speaks. So they're launching a new series: The Language of Business — a Khan-Academy-style walkthrough of financial statements, one bite-sized concept at a time, with zero promises it'll be entertaining (but they'll try). Part 1 starts with the foundations: the basic business model (revenue, expenses, profit) through the story of an 11-year-old kid who built a landscaping empire from his dad's "borrowed" push mower, the core accounting equation (Assets = Liabilities + Equity), why cash and accrual accounting are completely different animals, and exactly where to find the numbers in a real 10-K. Plus: Andrew's lawn-mowing allergy trauma, Stephen's hay-baling war stories, and the adjusted EBITDA confession Stephen's been sitting on for years.
What You Will Learn
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The basic business model in one line: revenue minus expenses equals profit — illustrated through an 11-year-old's lawnmower business
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The core accounting equation (Assets = Liabilities + Equity) and why it always has to balance
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What depreciation actually is — and why a $10 lawnmower "costs" $2 a year for five years without spending another dime
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Cash vs. accrual accounting: why signing a contract and getting paid are two different events, and why the stock market runs on accrual
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Deferred/unearned revenue explained through Netflix subscriptions
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Where to find financial statements in a real 10-K (spoiler: Item 8) — plus your homework assignment
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Why "adjusted EBITDA" is a number you should basically ignore
Timestamps
00:00 — Doctorates, and Dr. Dre
03:45 — The series pitch: making accounting tolerable
04:15 — Why Andrew loves spreadsheets + the AI bit
06:40 — Put in the reps: follow along with real companies
08:00 — Trishawn's story: the 11-year-old lawnmower mogul from Toledo
11:50 — Segment 1: The basic business model — revenue, expenses, net profit
15:35 — Segment 2: The core equation — Assets = Liabilities + Equity
18:25 — Wear and tear: reinvesting (or not) in the business
19:10 — Andrew's lawn-mowing allergy trauma
20:20 — Stephen's hay-baling war story
21:50 — Depreciation & amortization, lawnmower-style
23:55 — Buying with cash vs. borrowed money: swapping assets
25:30 — The balance scale graphic
25:40 — Segment 3: Cash vs. accrual — the clean take
27:25 — "Bobby is a baller" — the Costco-level operator
29:05 — Subscription models: Netflix, Prime, and deferred revenue
31:15 — Unearned revenue + the Thomas Ittelson book recommendation
33:10 — Stephen's adjusted EBITDA confession
34:15 — Segment 4: Where to find the numbers — 10-K, SEC.gov vs. investor relations
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter:https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter/
Have questions or want your story featured? Email the show at newsletter@einvestingforbeginners.com or comment below. Your feedback shapes the podcast!
Remember, invest with a margin of safety—emphasis on the safety. Have a great week, and we’ll talk to you next time.
Timestamps are generated by artificial intelligence, and are not 100% accurate depending on the platform used for listening.
Today’s show is sponsored by:
Download Cash App Today: https://click.cash.app/ui6m/0th4z72y #CashAppPod As a Cash App partner, I may earn a commission when you sign up for a Cash App account. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Bitcoin services provided by Block, Inc. For additional information, see the Bitcoin disclosures.
Shopify: Stop waiting for permission to build something. Your next revenue stream starts for free at http://shopify.com/beginners
Turn your biggest monthly expense into rewards. Bilt lets you earn points on rent payments with no transaction fees, redeemable for travel, fitness classes, and more at joinbilt.com/investing
Supercharge your productivity and automate your daily tasks by building custom AI agents in your all-in-one workspace at https://notion.com/investing
Take your investing up a notch with MooMoo — commission-free trading, pro-level research tools, and real-time market data, all in one app. Get started at start.moomoo.com/BEGINNERS
Sending money across borders? Wise gives you the real exchange rate with low, transparent fees and no hidden markups. Join millions managing money globally at http://wise.com
Interested in how your company sponsor the show? Reach us at equity@einvestingforbeginners.com
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51 min
AAR72 - Financial Tier List
Show notes
Evan and Andrew rank 14 personal financial decisions on a tier list — S tier means everybody should do it, F tier means never do it — all judged for a hypothetical 30-year-old: married, decent-but-not-stellar finances, Walmart glasses. Three decisions earn S tier. Three land in F. And the 72-month car loan sparks the episode's most surprising debate.
What You Will Learn
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Why capturing your full 401(k) match is an instant, guaranteed 100% return
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The hidden trap of maxing your 401(k): when your net worth is $400K but you can only afford $900 rent
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The Roth IRA trick most people miss — contributions come back out anytime, penalty-free
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The 72-month car loan debate: worse than it sounds, or actually reasonable?
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Why annuities lose on fees and legacy — and the one reason to keep them anyway
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Day trading = gambling: good luck out-surfing the algorithms
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The buy-now-pay-later trap: death by a thousand stacked payments
Timestamps
00:00 — The game: ranking financial decisions F to S; meet our 30-year-old
04:45 — #1: Capturing the full 401(k) match → S tier
05:58 — #2: Maxing out the 401(k) → C tier (the sustainability argument)
08:39 — Sidebar: does E tier exist? (E tier eliminated)
10:28 — #3: Emergency fund in a high-yield savings account → S tier
11:24 — #4: Index fund investing → A tier (the S-tier debate)
14:13 — #5: Roth IRA contributions → S tier (withdraw contributions anytime)
17:49 — #6: Credit card rewards → B tier
19:11 — #7: Paying off a 3% mortgage early → D tier
22:02 — #8: A 72-month car loan → C tier (Andrew lobbied for B-)
25:08 — #9: Annuities → D tier (the death-benefit debate)
31:56 — #10: Financial advisor charging 1% → D tier
35:11 — #11: Day trading → F tier ("good luck surfing the algorithms")
39:28 — #12: Investing in crypto → D tier (Andrew's $15 in Solana)
41:55 — #13: Timeshares → F tier
43:43 — #14: Buy now, pay later → F tier (financing a Chipotle burrito)
47:37 — Final tier list recap
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter: https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter//
Free monthly budgeting spreadsheet: https://einvestingforbeginners.com/budget/
Email Evan: evan@einvestingforbeginners.com
Have questions or want your story featured? Email the show at newsletter@einvestingforbeginners.com or comment below. Your feedback shapes the podcast!
Remember, financial freedom is built one smart move at a time. Keep it simple, keep it steady, and at any rate, we’ll see you next time.
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47 min
No Moat, No Problem? What HPE's Moonshot Teaches Value Investors
Show notes
Stephen found HPE the way all great stock stories start — thumbing through a screener, bored between meetings, when a ticker up 180% caught his eye. "What is HPE? Never even heard of that." What he found was the old HP enterprise business, spun off and reborn: GreenLake's $3.5 billion subscription machine, a $14 billion Juniper acquisition, and a stock that went from under $13 to $60 in months. This week, Stephen and Andrew tear into the question at the heart of it: is Hewlett Packard Enterprise really an AI infrastructure play — or a boring server vendor in an AI costume? They dig into the numbers (operating cash flow up 405% in a quarter), the valuation puzzle (forward P/E under 15 vs. an industry at 30), the moat problem (there isn't one — yet), and the $14 billion gamble that will decide everything. Plus: the HP printer rant, the "Sasspocalypse," and why Stephen sold his entire day-trading account to play HPE.
What You Will Learn
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What HPE actually is (hint: not the printer company) and how the HP/HPE spin-off worked
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How GreenLake's subscription model turns boring hardware into $3.5B of recurring revenue
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Why the $14B Juniper acquisition is the defining bet of the AI trade — and what has to go right
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How to think about valuation when a stock looks "stupid cheap" (forward P/E 12–15 vs. industry 30)
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The divide-and-conquer method for researching companies with multiple business segments
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Why "no moat" should scare you — and the framework for deciding whether to invest anyway
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What gross margin expansion tells you about a business's future (the GreenLake effect)
Timestamps
00:00 — Welcome back: the game is AI
01:53 — How Stephen found HPE on a stock screener
03:32 — HP vs. HPE: the spin-off explained
06:24 — GreenLake: the $3.5B subscription machine
08:24 — From under $13 to $60: the rocket ship
12:54 — The $1.2B Vultr order and the Oracle halo
13:40 — How to research multi-segment companies
17:09 — "Stupid cheap"? The valuation puzzle
19:26 — The moat question
24:52 — A management team that's been together 7 years
28:13 — Confession: Stephen sold everything to trade HPE
29:17 — Gross margins and the GreenLake effect
31:35 — The fear: "it's like a bad breakup"
36:14 — Three years of revenue for one acquisition
40:15 — Listener shout-outs: Zachary and William
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter:https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter/
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Remember, invest with a margin of safety—emphasis on the safety. Have a great week, and we’ll talk to you next time.
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54 min
Path to Confidence Finale: The Habits That Build a Confident Investor
Show notes
Confidence in investing doesn't mean you feel certain — like you finally found the right stock and now you're just calm. Real confidence is way less emotional than that. It's about having habits that keep you from doing dumb stuff when you're scared, or dumb stuff when you're excited.
In the finale of the Path to Confidence series, Stephen and Andrew break down the investing habits that actually build confidence over time — habits that build trust in you, not the market. Stephen shares his three-tier habit system (Input, Decision, Review), Andrew shares the guardrails that keep his emotions out of his decisions, and they get honest about the bad habits they've had to kill along the way — from paralysis by analysis to putting off sleep to binge a show at 10pm.
Plus: why your brain literally rewires itself every time you build a habit, the 24-hour rule everyone should steal, and the number one rule of confident investing — be intellectually honest with yourself.
What You Will Learn
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Why confidence isn't certainty — it's habits that protect you from your own emotions
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Stephen's 3-tier system: Input habits (what you consume), Decision habits (guardrails for choices), Review habits (regular check-ins)
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Habit stacking: how to attach a new habit to one you already have so it sticks
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Andrew's rule: never make an investing decision the same day — let it percolate overnight
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The 24-hour rule: the one habit everyone should steal to kill emotional decisions
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"Paralysis by analysis" — why endless learning without executing is the beginner's most destructive habit
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Stephen's story: trying to keep up with Andrew, burning out, and course-correcting before it cost him everything
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How your brain physically builds new neural pathways when you form a habit
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The #1 rule: be intellectually honest with yourself about what actually works for you
Timestamps
00:00 — Welcome in: the Path to Confidence finale
08:50 — The habits that creep in on you (and where they can lead)
10:56 — Andrew's confession: paralysis by analysis
14:31 — Habit stacking, explained
17:18 — Stephen's 3-tier system: Input, Decision, Review
22:49 — Andrew's rule: never decide on the same day
34:36 — Emotional mistakes: buying the rip
38:31 — Stephen's worst habit: refusing to sleep
41:15 — Measuring sticks and the circle of competence
46:51 — The 24-hour rule everyone should steal
48:57 — Your brain on habits (Switch on Your Brain)
50:48 — The weekly solo reset: quiet time in nature
51:21 — Rule #1: be intellectually honest with yourself
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter:https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter/
Have questions or want your story featured? Email the show at newsletter@einvestingforbeginners.com or comment below. Your feedback shapes the podcast!
Remember, invest with a margin of safety—emphasis on the safety. Have a great week, and we’ll talk to you next time.
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56 min
AAR71 - Are You a Financial Green Flag or Red Flag?
Show notes
Evan and Andrew take the viral red-flag/green-flag dating game and turn it on your wallet. Eleven money habits get judged — streaming subscriptions, credit card debt, eating out, beat-up cars, family loans, car leases, prenups, paying cash, 5-star hotels, and splitting bills with a partner. Some verdicts are obvious. A few of them got surprisingly deep.
What You Will Learn
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Why subscribing to every streaming service is a red flag — and the rotate-and-cancel fix
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The brutal math on funding retirement while carrying credit card debt
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The leftovers hack that effectively halves your eating-out bill
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When a beat-up car on a $100K salary is a green flag (and when "car dandruff" flips it red)
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Why leasing is usually a losing game — and the iPhone lease that made Evan snap
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The right way to split bills when partners earn very different incomes (plus the app built for it)
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Why "faithful in small things" predicts your entire financial life
Timestamps
00:00— Welcome to At Any Rate: how the game works
03:38 — Flag #1: Subscribes to every streaming service (RED)
07:08 — Flag #2: Maxing retirement while carrying credit card debt (RED)
09:57 — Flag #3: Eats out for every meal (RED) + the leftovers hack
14:54 — Flag #4: Beat-up car on a $100K salary (GREEN — unless it's unsafe)
17:41 — Flag #5: Refuses loans with family (BEIGE) — deeper than expected
23:18 — Flag #6: Leases a new car… or a Tesla (RED) + the iPhone lease rant
30:41 — Flag #7: Wants a prenup (IT DEPENDS)
35:53 — Flag #8: Pays cash, avoids credit cards (RED) + the lawn company chargeback story
41:33 — Flag #9: Only stays in 5-star hotels (RED RED RED) + the Sam Walton story
45:31 — Flag #10: Splits bills 50/50 with unequal incomes (RED) + MeetHalfway.app
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter: https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter//
Free monthly budgeting spreadsheet: https://einvestingforbeginners.com/budget/
Email Evan: evan@einvestingforbeginners.com
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59 min
Tesla: Bullish on the Company, Bearish on the Stock
Show notes
Stephen and Andrew ignore the headlines and the Twitter drama and look at Tesla the company — the EVs, the $30 billion robotaxi bet, the robots, and a balance sheet holding roughly $44 billion in liquid assets. Both are bullish on the business. Neither will touch the stock at $393 with a trailing PE over 300. Along the way: Stephen's biggest investing regret (an Army signing bonus that could have bought Tesla at the IPO), why Andrew isn't shaking his 11% Uber position, and the question hanging over it all — how much of the Tesla bear case is just feelings about Elon?
What You Will Learn
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Why letting personal bias about a CEO dictate allocation destroys wealth
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The story of Stephen's Tesla IPO miss — and what it taught him about IPOs
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What Tesla's $30B in new financing is really funding (robotaxis, semis, robots)
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The robotaxi debate: constitutional concerns vs. the unit-economics reality
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Why Tesla's balance sheet looks like Apple's — and why Moody's disagrees
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Where to draw the line between investing with your conscience and investing on vibes
Timestamps
00:00 – Why we're talking Tesla (and ignoring all the drama)
02:00 – Confession: the Jeep guy loves EVs
06:00 – Stephen's biggest regret: the IPO that got away
10:00 – Tesla today: $30B financing, new mission statement, Megapack
15:00 – Robotaxis: Stephen's concerns vs. Andrew's Uber bull case
25:00 – Valuation check: $393 stock, 331 PE, waiting for $275
37:00 – The $44 billion balance sheet
40:00 – "I'm not looking at him as my friend, I'm looking at him as an ATM"
47:00 – Can legacy automakers catch up?
51:00 – Robots building robots, and why optimism wins
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter:https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter/
Have questions or want your story featured? Email the show at newsletter@einvestingforbeginners.com or comment below. Your feedback shapes the podcast!
Remember, invest with a margin of safety—emphasis on the safety. Have a great week, and we’ll talk to you next time.
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40 min
Path to Confidence: Stop Checking Your Stocks Every Day
Show notes
If your definition of success is "my account was green today," you're letting the market control your emotions — and that's not investing, that's stress. Stephen opens up about his old habit of living and dying by red and green days, and why that rollercoaster is the fastest way to kill your motivation and quit. Andrew admits the emotions never fully disappear, even after years of doing this — but shares the reframe that changed everything for him: if you're in the wealth-building stage, you should be cheering when the market drops, because you're buying assets, not harvesting them.
From there, it's all about replacement yardsticks. Stephen lays out his three: the accumulation yardstick (rate your conviction 1–10 and don't own anything below a 7), the income yardstick (track your dividends compounding upward), and the business performance yardstick (is the company still executing your original thesis?). Andrew counters with his fundamentals dashboard and a process-based measure — hours spent studying businesses, not tickers watched. Plus the stat that should haunt every investor: 90% fail the 2.5-year holding test. It closes with the simplest possible starting point: three yes-or-no questions anyone can ask tonight.
What You Will Learn
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Why daily price-checking creates a dopamine/anxiety cycle that destroys motivation
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How to reframe red days as opportunity when you're still in the wealth-building stage
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Stephen's 3 yardsticks: conviction, dividend income, and business performance vs. thesis
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Why Andrew measures fundamentals on a dashboard instead of watching stock prices
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The 2.5-year test — and using portfolio turnover rate as a reality check
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Process yardsticks: measuring the work you put in, not the market's mood
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3 yes/no questions any beginner can use to measure progress tonight
Timestamps
0:00 Stephen's old habit: living and dying by green/red days
2:00 Andrew: the emotions are real — brainwash yourself to like red
6:25 Proactive shields: monthly check-ins + killing brokerage notifications
10:20 Yardstick #1: the accumulation yardstick (conviction ratings + Casey's)
14:25 Andrew's dashboard: measuring fundamentals, not prices
15:30 Yardstick #2: the income/dividend yardstick
18:45 Yardstick #3: business performance vs. your original thesis
22:05 Time-in-market + the 2.5-year test most investors fail
25:25 Andrew's process yardstick: hours studying, not companies covered
30:30 The 3 yes-or-no questions for anyone starting from zero
31:50 Andrew's one thing: the checklist that forces you to zoom out
32:35 Buffett's 12D chess + the weight-loss analogy
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter:https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter/
Have questions or want your story featured? Email the show at newsletter@einvestingforbeginners.com or comment below. Your feedback shapes the podcast!
Remember, invest with a margin of safety—emphasis on the safety. Have a great week, and we’ll talk to you next time.
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56 min
AAR70 - Money Debates 3: Crypto, Renting, College, and more
Show notes
Crypto allocation vs gambling • Starter home vs buying nicer • Renting a room for income • Paying for kids’ college • Car cash vs low-rate financing
In this round of Money Debates, Evan and Andrew go rapid-fire through some of the spiciest personal finance arguments—starting with crypto and ending with the “cash vs cheap financing” car question. The through-line is simple: you can make a lot of different choices work if you’re honest about risk, incentives, and your own behavior.
You’ll hear them land on a few consistent principles: keep speculative bets small (if at all), don’t buy a home you’ll hate living in, be realistic about the messiness of roommates/tenants, and treat big financial “gifts” (like college help) as a mindset/values conversation—not just a money decision.
What You Will Learn
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Crypto: It can be a tiny allocation, but most of the ecosystem still rewards hype/greed and makes scams too easy.
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Starter homes: Often the only realistic entry point today—but only smart if you can stay long enough and won’t be miserable.
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Renting a room: Big upside in monthly cash flow, but the downside risk (drama, damage, squatting/tenant issues) is real.
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College help: If you can help without creating entitlement, it can be a huge springboard—plus scholarships/aid are wildly underused.
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Car decision: “Math” says low-rate financing can be fine; “behavior” says cash keeps people from overspending. Balance wins.
Timestamps
0:00 — Debate 1: Crypto in your portfolio vs straight-up gambling
1:00 — Pro-crypto case: new funding model + Bitcoin as a hedge (in theory)
3:45 — Anti-crypto case: execution hasn’t matched the promise + pump-and-dump culture
7:55 — Debate 2: Is buying a starter home a smart move?
8:25 — Pro-starter home: often the only affordable way to build equity and options
11:10 — Anti-starter home angle: incentives get messy with roommates/dating + don’t stretch too far
12:40 — The real deciding factor: don’t buy a home you’ll hate, because you can’t exit quickly
14:05 — Debate 3: Renting out a room for extra income (worth it or not?)
16:05 — Pro-renting-a-room: huge monthly upside vs most side gigs + “unused space” argument
19:30 — Debate 4: Pay for your kid’s college vs let them figure it out
20:05 — Pro-paying: 529s + compounding + avoiding life-altering student debt decisions at 18
25:10 — The middle ground: help what you can without raising entitlement; support isn’t only money
28:05 — Debate 5: Buy a car in cash vs low-rate financing (0–3%)
30:05 — Financing case: if the rate is truly low and budget is solid, quality-of-life can justify it
32:20 — Reality check: don’t use financing to “level up” from Camry to Rivian just because you can
33:35 — Two helpful back-catalog references: AAR67 (Ratio Rulebook) + AAR03 (Budgeting)
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter: https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter//
Free monthly budgeting spreadsheet: https://einvestingforbeginners.com/budget/
Email Evan: evan@einvestingforbeginners.com
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50 min
Meta’s AI Spending: Genius Move or Zuck Losing It?
Show notes
Meta is spending aggressively on AI infrastructure—and the big question is whether that’s visionary or reckless. Andrew frames Meta as primarily an advertising business today, while Stephen digs into what Meta’s leadership is signaling about 2026–2027 capex visibility (and how murky “2028 and beyond” still looks). From there, the conversation turns into what investors actually have to believe to own Meta: trust in Zuckerberg’s control and decision-making, plus a belief that AI becomes a durable, monetizable platform shift.
Then you get into the messy parts: trust (AI agents with access to your life), security risk, and the ethical/legal overhang from lawsuits and public perception. The episode closes with Andrew walking through why the numbers look undeniably strong—growth rates that don’t make sense for a company Meta’s size, margin discipline, and shareholder returns—while still admitting the qualitative risks are what keep him on the sidelines.
What You Will Learn
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How to think about Meta as an ad business today vs. an AI platform bet tomorrow
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What Meta’s capex visibility (2026–2027) implies—and why “2028+” is the scary part
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The two big “belief requirements” to invest in Meta: Zuck + AI
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Where Meta’s AI strategy could fail: trust, monetization, cost curve, regulation
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Why Meta’s financials look so strong even while the narrative stays controversial
Timestamps
0:00 Welcome back + why Meta/AI is the focus today
1:15 “Are you feeling AI fatigue?” + Andrew admits he’s all-in (NVIDIA)
2:05 What is Meta right now? Framing it as an advertising business first
4:10 The core hesitation: you’re still buying ads + confidence in advertiser durability
5:55 The capex quote: Meta confident in 2026–2027 use cases, fuzzy after that
7:20 What investors must believe: Zuckerberg control + belief in AI’s future
9:05 Compute, data, parameters: why Meta is spending like crazy (and the long game)
12:55 Trust + security: AI agents, hard drive access, and “if an ATM can be hacked…”
15:10 Lawsuits + conscience: can you invest if you think the accusations are real?
19:40 The numbers case: growth rates, margins, SG&A discipline, buybacks/dividend—“buy on charts, hesitate on story”
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter:https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter/
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44 min
Path to Confidence: Build an Investing Playbook
Show notes
Everybody has a plan until the market punches them in the mouth. In this episode, Stephen and Andrew break down how to remove emotion from investing by building a mechanical “if-then” playbook—rules you decide ahead of time so you don’t improvise when fear hits. They connect the idea to real-world high-stress training (military, first responders, pilots): when things go sideways, you fall back on rehearsed systems, not gut reactions.
They walk through how to write rules per stock (not just for the whole portfolio), why selling rules are rarely discussed, and how to set “eject button” triggers that protect you from sunk cost fallacy and self-justification. The episode closes with a listener's question about receiving a large sum of money—how to slow down, define your time horizon, avoid paying “tuition” with a big lump sum, and choose an investing path you can stick with.
What You Will Learn
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How to create if-then rules that reduce panic decisions
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Why you should build rules before buying a stock (not during a crisis)
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How to think about sell triggers (and why most investors avoid the topic)
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How to use “do nothing” as a legitimate strategy when markets get chaotic
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What to consider when investing a large lump sum (time horizon, pacing, confidence)
Timestamps
00:00 Why this episode: removing emotion when you “should” be panicking
01:05 Training under stress: why systems beat gut instincts in real life (and investing)
02:10 Hydroplaning analogy: don’t overcorrect when things get scary
04:35 The core tool: building an “if-then plan” (borrowed from trading, adapted to investing)
06:10 Why investors rarely talk about selling—and why that’s a problem
07:05 “Shopping wholesale”: how to think when the market drops hard
09:20 Per-stock rules vs portfolio-wide rules (and why per-stock is safer)
12:50 Real example: Spotify rules—buy dips, avoid sunk cost fallacy, know your eject button
17:50 Hard rules: dividend cuts + capital return as a key part of Andrew’s framework
34:28 Listener question: what to do with a large sum of money (time horizon + pacing + don’t rush)
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter:https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter/
Have questions or want your story featured? Email the show at newsletter@einvestingforbeginners.com or comment below. Your feedback shapes the podcast!
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52 min
AAR69 - Behind the Curtain - How Money Actually Moves
Show notes
Most of us don’t handle money directly anymore—we rely on platforms, banks, brokerages, and middlemen. In this episode, Evan and Andrew break down how those businesses actually make money off you, where the hidden costs live, and the practical moves you can use to “stack the deck” back in your favor. From credit card interest and swipe fees, to investing expense ratios, to overdraft traps, to mortgage math and real estate agent incentives—this is a plain-English walkthrough of the stuff nobody explains until it’s too late.
What You Will Learn
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Credit cards make money mainly from interest, transaction (swipe) fees, and sometimes annual fees—and they’re designed to make spending feel painless.
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In investing, “small” fees (expense ratios, advisor fees, trading friction) can become massive over time because they compound against you.
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Banks profit by using your deposits to earn returns while paying you little—plus they rake in fees like overdraft and minimum balance penalties.
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Mortgages are interest-front-loaded, so moving too soon can mean you paid mostly interest and built little equity.
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Real estate agents are often incentivized to close fast and at higher prices, so you should consider asking for single-party representation or even flat-fee/hourly structures.
Timestamps
0:00 — Credit cards = short-term loans (and why rates are so high)
1:35 — Where card companies profit: interest, swipe fees, annual fees
3:05 — The real “win”: never carry a balance + avoid annual fees
4:25 — Why frictionless spending (tap/phone pay) makes you spend more
6:10 — Annual-fee cards: why the math usually doesn’t work
8:55 — Stock market basics: ownership, raising capital, buybacks, stock comp
13:10 — If commissions are “free,” how do brokers make money now?
17:10 — Practical defense #2: don’t day trade (you’re fighting the machine)
18:00 — Practical defense #3: don’t overpay for advice in wealth-building years
19:20 — Fees stack: advisor fees + fund fees + taxes can crush returns
20:15 — Banks: how they profit from your deposits (and why it matters)
25:10 — Why switching checking accounts is a pain (and banks know it)
28:10 — Mortgage optimization: credit score, shopping rates, extra principal
32:40 — Flat-fee/hourly agents: why it can align incentives better
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter: https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter//
Free monthly budgeting spreadsheet: https://einvestingforbeginners.com/budget/
Email Evan: evan@einvestingforbeginners.com
Have questions or want your story featured? Email the show at newsletter@einvestingforbeginners.com or comment below. Your feedback shapes the podcast!
Remember, financial freedom is built one smart move at a time. Keep it simple, keep it steady, and at any rate, we’ll see you next time.
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45 min
Cummins (CMI): Record Quarter, Falling Stock — What Wall Street Sees
Show notes
Cummins just printed a monster quarter—record revenue, raised guidance, and strong-looking headline numbers—yet the stock has been sliding hard. In this episode, Stephen and Andrew walk through why that disconnect happens and how to avoid the “headline trap” where a good quarter gets mistaken for a good stock. The big theme: stop reacting to the press release and start underwriting the business like a lender would—dig into what’s actually driving results and what could break.
They cover Cummins’ segment mix (and why profits can matter more than revenue), what to look for in margins when costs are rising, and how to think about cyclicality without overreacting to once-in-a-generation macro events. The episode wraps with a practical checklist mindset: look for one-time boosts (acquisitions, refunds, accounting noise), sanity-check cash flow, and remember that the learning curve never ends—your job is to catch mistakes early and course-correct.
What You Will Learn
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How to separate a great quarter from a great stock
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How to use segment revenue vs segment profitability to see what’s really driving results
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What margin trends (gross + operating) can tell you about cost pressure vs pricing power
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How to evaluate cyclicality using operating margin history (without overfitting one bad year)
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A simple framework for spotting one-time boosts that can “fake” strength
Timestamps
00:00 Why Cummins is interesting: record quarter, stock still falling
01:30 The core question: what does Wall Street see that the headlines don’t?
02:15 First step: start with the earnings call + identify the real driver (data centers/power)
04:31 “Destination Zero” + why Cummins is more than “just engines”
05:33 Andrew’s approach: segment revenue vs segment profitability (and why it matters)
07:15 Transformation stories: legacy stability + fast-growing segment upside
10:46 Explaining price drops: using bear cases/analyst reports as clues, not gospel
13:00 Costs rising vs revenue rising: what “good” looks like through margins
17:17 Moat discussion: brand power, supplier presence, and quality as a competitive edge
32:31 Avoiding the trap: acquisitions + one-time items + cash flow as your “metal detector”
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter:https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter/
Have questions or want your story featured? Email the show at newsletter@einvestingforbeginners.com or comment below. Your feedback shapes the podcast!
Remember, invest with a margin of safety—emphasis on the safety. Have a great week, and we’ll talk to you next time.
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Today’s show is sponsored by:
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55 min
Path to Confidence: Why the Best Investors Rarely Swing
Show notes
Every day, mainstream financial media demands that you swing at the latest hot stock, IPO, or macroeconomic tech trend. But the greatest investors in history succeed not by swinging at every pitch, but by ruthlessly defining their "Circle of Competence" and ignoring the rest. In this episode, Stephen and Andrew break down how to map out your unique investing edge, overcome the psychological trap of FOMO, and use the "Scuttlebutt" method to safely expand your knowledge without incinerating your capital.
What You Will Learn
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The Ted Williams Rule: Why batting .406 in the stock market requires you to map out your exact "grid squares" of knowledge and let the Wall Street meatballs go by.
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The Hubris Trap: How deep industry knowledge can trick smart professionals (like surgeons or engineers) into making arrogant, portfolio-killing mistakes.
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Philip Fisher’s "Scuttlebutt" Method: How to investigate a company's true moat by interrogating its competitors, suppliers, and customers.
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The Anatomy of FOMO: Why missing out on a cultural trend (like GameStop or SpaceX) is mathematically safer than playing a game you don’t understand.
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How to Safely Expand Your Edge: Why studying a gas station (Casey's) naturally leads you to evaluate the pizza industry (Domino's)—and how adjacency safely builds your circle.
Timestamps
00:01:57 — Defining the "Circle of Competence" and why stock picking requires qualitative focus.
00:08:50 — Thomas J. Watson Sr. and why staying "smart in spots" beats being a jack-of-all-trades.
00:11:31 — The spice trade, McCormick, and why mature industries eventually stagnate.
00:14:25 — The Hubris Trap: Why industry experts often make the most arrogant investing mistakes.
00:20:42 — Philip Fisher’s "Scuttlebutt" method for investigating competitive advantages.
00:24:01 — FOMO (Fear of Missing Out) and the Ted Williams strike zone methodology.
00:30:20 — The struggle of saying "no" to good companies and establishing 24-hour cooling-off rules.
00:41:06 — How to map your Circle of Competence using the "Three Rings" visual framework.
00:46:40 — Safely expanding your circle through industry adjacencies.
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter:https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter/
Have questions or want your story featured? Email the show at newsletter@einvestingforbeginners.com or comment below. Your feedback shapes the podcast!
Remember, invest with a margin of safety—emphasis on the safety. Have a great week, and we’ll talk to you next time.
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Today’s show is sponsored by:
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47 min
AAR68 - Correcting for Financial Mistakes
Show notes
Nobody is perfect, and that applies to your budget, too. In this episode of At Any Rate, Evan and Andrew open up about their recent financial slip-ups—from overspending on dining out to completely forgetting about annual expenses like car insurance and birthdays.
Instead of dwelling on the guilt of busting a budget, the guys break down how to properly correct these mistakes without entering a toxic cycle of financial restriction. Plus, they share their favorite everyday "hacks" to save cash and catch up, including the hidden markup trap of food delivery apps, using simple cashback setups, and the psychological trick of over-budgeting.
What You Will Learn
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Couples Finance: How to manage joint finances and split bills proportionally without acting as your partner's financial "nanny."
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The Catch-Up Trap: Why trying to aggressively cut spending after a minor budget mistake can actually trigger a toxic binge-spending cycle.
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The Delivery App Illusion: The massive hidden food markups on Uber Eats and Grubhub, and why ordering ahead on native apps saves you thousands a year.
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Passive Sinking Funds: How to use basic store credit cards (like Target or Amazon) to generate guilt-free spending money without complex travel hacking.
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Over-Budgeting: The psychological benefit of overestimating variable expenses like gas to create a built-in end-of-month reward.
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The 3-to-6 Month Rule: A simple framework to determine if you should cut back to pay for a mistake, or if you need to pull from emergency savings.
Timestamps
02:51 – Main Episode Start: Bouncing Back from Financial Mistakes
05:00 – Evan’s Mistake: Overspending on dining out & adjusting the budget
08:39 – Couples Finance: How to handle joint budgets with separate accounts
16:08 – Andrew’s Mistake: Forgetting annual expenses (holidays & car insurance)
21:54 – Why trying to "catch up" on a busted budget creates a toxic money cycle
26:50 – Hack 1: The Uber Eats & Grubhub hidden markup trap
32:23 – Hack 2: Using simple cashback credit cards as a passive sinking fund
39:00 – Hack 3: Over-budgeting variable expenses for end-of-month rewards
40:40 – Hack 4: Replacing expensive habits with free, healthy challenges
43:30 – The 3-to-6 Month Rule: Knowing when to cut back vs. when to use savings
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter: https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter//
Free monthly budgeting spreadsheet: https://einvestingforbeginners.com/budget/
Email Evan: evan@einvestingforbeginners.com
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43 min
What Is a Holding Company, And Should You Invest in One?
Show notes
You might think buying shares of Google means you are investing in a search engine, but you are actually buying into a decentralized corporate shell designed to isolate risk and absorb massive losses. While operating companies like Apple focus on core products, empires like Alphabet and Berkshire Hathaway use corporate structure as a financial weapon. In this episode, Stephen and Andrew look under the hood of the holding company model to determine if decentralization is the ultimate margin of safety, or a fast track to inefficient "di-worsification."
What You Will Learn
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The Alphabet Illusion: Why buying Google actually means investing in a decentralized risk-management engine.
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Ring-Fencing Failure: How holding companies legally isolate bankrupt subsidiaries—and the debt loophole that still managed to destroy Silicon Valley Bank.
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The Meta Money Pit: How giant holding companies use massive subsidiary losses (like Reality Labs or Waymo) as a structural tax advantage to offset core profits.
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Divestitures vs. IPOs: Why spinning off a subsidiary like Mobileye rewards parent companies differently than giving direct shares to investors.
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The Conglomerate Discount: Why Wall Street historically punishes bloated empires, and why General Electric (GE) had to unbundle its businesses to survive.
Timestamps
00:01:46 — Defining the Holding Company: Alphabet and Berkshire vs. Apple and Uber.
00:03:55 — The Coca-Cola anomaly: Why an independent bottler historically outperformed the iconic parent brand.
00:06:40 — Centralization vs. Decentralization: Why holding company CEOs let subsidiaries operate autonomously.
00:08:50 — Ring-fencing risk: What actually happens to the parent stock if a subsidiary goes bankrupt?
00:12:44 — The Tax Shield: How Alphabet absorbs Waymo's operating losses to offset Google's massive profits.
00:14:48 — The Cash Flow Vacuum: How parent companies extract money from their subsidiaries.
00:19:28 — Offloading assets: The critical mechanical difference between an IPO (Mobileye) and a Divestiture (Danaher).
00:25:33 — The 1970s Conglomerate Boom, "di-worsification," and GE's forced unbundling.
00:28:07 — Evaluating Meta's Reality Labs: Is it a calculated tax shield or a structural cancer?
00:32:30 — Bonus lesson: What is "Circle Financing" and why Jensen Huang's recent NVIDIA investments don't fit the definition.
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter:https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter/
Have questions or want your story featured? Email the show at newsletter@einvestingforbeginners.com or comment below. Your feedback shapes the podcast!
Remember, invest with a margin of safety—emphasis on the safety. Have a great week, and we’ll talk to you next time.
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