Podcast
The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland
The Money Trench (TMT) is The Music Industry Podcast from presenter Mark Sutherland and exec producer Mike Walsh, produced by Tape Notes and supported by Sound On and Tixel. Each Monday, we will dissect the biggest music industry news stories of the previous week, in the company of one of the industry’s most influential executives. Followed by a deep dive into that exec’s career in music, including their thoughts on where we’re at and where we’re heading. Now, TMT is here to look at all sides of the music business and celebrate the most exciting industry on the planet. Don’t start your music week without it…
- Music Interviews chart
- #159
- Episodes
- 114
- Releases
- Weekly
- Typical length
- 1 hr 2 min
- On air since
- 2024
- Latest episode
- 2 days ago
Episodes
114 episodes, newest first
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1 hr 4 min
TMT:113 Nick Huggett On His New Indie Label & Discovering Adele
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Nick Huggett, Founder and CEO of Regiment.
As one of the greatest A&Rs in UK music, having nurtured icons such as Adele and Dizzee Rascal, Nick is here to discuss his transition away from major labels and the launch of his own indie, Regiment.
The pair discuss the pros and cons of the modern major label, how Nick discovers great talent, and why social media is crucial for modern artists.
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The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
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Thanks to our partners
Deviate Digital
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
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59 min
TMT:112 Emily Braham On Discovering & Breaking Olivia Dean
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Emily Braham, Founder of Yo&Co, Co-Founder of fivethree, and manager of Olivia Dean.
Recorded live in Newcastle at the Generator Live Conference as part of the Mercury Prize Fringe, Emily drops by to share what it’s like managing one of the UK’s hottest talents.
The pair discuss Olivia Dean’s global ascent, what modern management looks like, the role of major labels in the industry today, and the necessity of patience in artist development.
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
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For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
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Thanks to our partners
Deviate Digital
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
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1 hr 2 min
TMT:111 Ammo Talwar On Transforming The Biz’s Diversity Strategy & Championing Birmingham
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Ammo Talwar, founder of Punch Records and Parlay Records.
As a Birmingham-based exec and a leading advocate for cultural diversity, Ammo is here to give his thoughts on how the industry can be more inclusive and why more regions of the UK need to be represented.
The pair discuss how new genres form within the UK, Ammo’s attempts to help emerging A&Rs, and how diversity boosts growth in the industry.
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
Deviate Digital
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
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1 hr 4 min
TMT:110 Molly Neuman On Her Journey From Punk Rock To The Board Room
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is in Manchester at Beyond The Music, and he is joined by Molly Neuman, President of CD Baby.
At the head of one of the world’s largest DIY distribution platforms, Molly possesses a unique insight into building an audience for artists and how the industry is changing.
The pair discuss her journey from artist in Bratmobile to exec, the Universal takeover of CD Baby, and the fight against AI.
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
Deviate Digital
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
-
1 hr 2 min
TMT:109 James Sandom On The Changing Face Of Modern Management
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by James Sandom, founder of Red Light Management UK.
After nearly 30 years at the forefront of artist management, James is here to share his expertise on what makes a good manager and how he has learned to nurture the artist-manager relationship, via working with artists such as Kaiser Chiefs and Interpol.
The pair discuss the shifting dynamics of global music consumption, the necessity of long-term artist development, and how managers must operate as true strategic partners in the modern industry.
NEWSLETTER
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
Deviate Digital
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
-
1 hr 5 min
TMT:108 Sarah Pearson & Oli Wilson On How Beyond The Music Will Change The Music Biz
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Sarah Pearson and Oli Wilson of Beyond the Music.
Ahead of Beyond the Music in Media City, Salford, Sarah and Oli share their vision for decentralising the industry, and bringing the music business into the modern era.
The trio discuss the current impact of AI on music, what it means to be based in Manchester, how the pair got into the industry and started making a difference, and what it was like to grow up in the Hacienda with Oli’s legendary dad, Factory Records’ Tony Wilson.
NEWSLETTER
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
Deviate Digital
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
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1 hr 4 min
TMT:107 Samantha Moy & Cam Pia On Running BBC Radio 6 Music
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Samantha Moy and Cam Pia, Head and Music Editor of BBC Radio 6 Music.
With 6 Music’s listening figures buoyant, Samantha and Cam discuss the new Indie Forever spin-off stream, and how they’ve developed the main station's music policy so that it’s much more than just an indie network.
The trio discuss how radio has evolved and continues to grow, balancing new music with legacy acts, and how they decide what music ends up on the radio.
NEWSLETTER
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
Deviate Digital
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
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1 hr 2 min
TMT:106 Martin Goldschmidt On 40 Years Of Cooking Vinyl
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Martin Goldschmidt, founder of Cooking Vinyl.
Having been at the head of the physical-first label for 40 years, Martin shares how he found a sweet spot working with established artists and fanbases.
The pair discuss why physical media still works, why he believes the independent sector will always find a way, and the growing importance of catalogue. They also talk about 40 years of musical adventures with the likes of The Prodigy and Billy Bragg, plus why an anarcho-punk band forced him to buy a suit...
NEWSLETTER
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
Deviate Digital
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
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59 min
TMT:105 Alex Bruford On Fixing Live’s Economics
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Alex Bruford, Agent and Co-Founder of ROAM.
After starting his career as a drummer and tour-managing around the world, Alex has transitioned to the booking agent side of the business with Reprise, ATC Live and now ROAM.
The pair discuss Fontaines DC’s latest landmark shows, Nick Cave’s record-breaking Brighton show, and the devastation of Brexit on touring.
NEWSLETTER
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
Deviate Digital
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
-
1 hr 2 min
TMT:104 Obi Asika on Bringing African Talent to the World
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week Mark is joined by Obi Asika, founder of The Malachite Group and the newly launched TMG Talent Agency.
Reflecting on a career spent bringing African talent to global stages, Obi discusses the influence of his early days running drum and bass nights, collaborating with grassroots promoters, through to launching pioneering events and festivals like Afro Nation and, more recently, Piano People.
He shares the initial struggles of getting African artists booked for major tour runs, his time at major agencies WME and UTA, and why communities need to hold onto ownership of their music.
The conversation also touches on a topic close to his heart, the industry's need for better parties!
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
Deviate Digital
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
-
1 hr 5 min
TMT:103 Kat Kennedy & Tim Parry On 40 Years Of Big Life
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Kat Kennedy and Tim Parry of Big Life.
Over 40 years as a management and publishing powerhouse, Big Life has worked with defining acts such as The Verve, Badly Drawn Boy and Kate Nash.
The trio discuss the reality of breaking acts in the current industry, how the company has survived for 40 years, expansion plans – and the maverick genius of original Big Life co-founder, Jazz Summers.
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
Deviate Digital
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
-
1 hr 5 min
TMT:102 Sarah Slater On Running Ticketmaster UK & The Battle Against Touts
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Sarah Slater, Managing Director at Ticketmaster UK.
Leading the UK division of the world's biggest ticketing distributor, Sarah is the perfect person to give us a full rundown on the current state of the live industry.
The pair discuss how Ticketmaster navigate the logistics of live events, myths around tickets and live touring, and what she learned from the Oasis ticket furore.
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
Deviate Digital
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
-
1 hr 7 min
TMT:101 Chris Wright On Co-Founding Chrysalis & Building The BRIT Awards
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Chris Wright, Co-Founder of the iconic Chrysalis empire.
Chris has helped break generation defining talent across multiple eras, including Ten Years After, Blondie, and Billy Idol.
The pair discuss the discovery of new artists, the reality of building a label, and his newest venture - Right Tracks.
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
Deviate Digital
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
-
1 hr 1 min
TMT:100 Chris Dempsey On Take That’s Record-Breaking Touring Triumphs
Show notes
For the 100th time, welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Chris Dempsey, founder of Corduroy Artists and manager of Take That.
Having climbed the ranks at Jeepster and Columbia, Chris now runs Corduroy Artists and manages superstars such as Take That, Katherine Jenkins, and rising talent such as Gracie Friel.
The pair discuss what its like to bring back a tour with Take That, the rise and potential fall of AI slop, and what the new Prime Minister could do for the music industry.
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
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For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
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Thanks to our partners
Deviate Digital
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
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1 hr 10 min
TMT:99 Jeremy Marsh & Marc Marot On The New Landscape For Labels
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Jeremy Marsh and Marc Marot, COO and CCO of Breaking Wave Group.
Jeremy and Marc are part of an ambitious new venture in the music industry - Breaking Wave - which aims to devote more time to its artists, breaking new acts and connecting heritage artists to new audiences.
The trio discuss what it was like to work with icons such as U2 and Dua Lipa, and they share their solution to fixing the modern industry’s 'time poverty’ issue.
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
Tixel
Deviate Digital
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
-
1 hr 3 min
TMT:98 Peter Rudge On The Rolling Stones & 50 Years In Live Music
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Peter Rudge, former label exec, tour manager and artist manager.
Having worked with rock royalty such as The Who and The Rolling Stones, Peter has a unique insight into the realities of touring and what others don’t necessarily think about.
The pair discuss Peter’s long career, shifts in distribution, and why live music will always be the key to artist careers.
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
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For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
GET IN TOUCH
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Thanks to our partners
SoundOn
Tixel
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
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1 hr 6 min
TMT:97 Tim Vigon On Managing The Streets & The Importance Of Band Chemistry
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by top artist manager Tim Vigon of TV Management/ThreeSixZero.
After working as a top PR for many famous bands including The Verve, Tim transitioned into management, famously guiding the career of The Streets.
The pair discuss the reality of breaking acts today, why pure talent isn’t enough any more, and why he’s banking on a massive revival of authentic rock bands.
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
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For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
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Thanks to our partners
SoundOn
Tixel
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
-
1 hr 2 min
TMT:96 Pat Carr on Why Marketing Remains Essential To the Music Biz
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Pat Carr, legendary marketing and management executive, and founder of the Remote Control Agency.
Through her 40 year career, Pat has marketed many iconic acts such as Ash, Blondie, and Rick Astley.
The pair discuss the changing landscape of marketing, how new social media laws may affect the industry, and why true musical connection can’t be faked.
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
SoundOn
Tixel
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
-
58 min
TMT:95 Lucy Noble On The British Airways Arc & The Opportunity For Mid-Sized Venues
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Lucy Noble, SVP of UK Venues for AEG Presents.
Having studied at RCM and spent 20 years working at the Royal Albert Hall, Lucy is an expert in anything and everything live.
The pair discuss the opening of London’s newest venue - the British Airways ARC, the challenges of building a new space, and how venues need to adapt for the future.
NEWSLETTER
Sign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.
SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
SoundOn
Tixel
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
-
1 hr 1 min
TMT:94 John Giddings On 50 Years Working On Live Music’s Frontline
Show notes
Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by John Giddings of Solo Music Agency and the Isle of Wight Festival.
Best known for transforming the Isle of Wight Festival into one of the UK's biggest music events, John shares stories from his time working with some of the world's biggest artists from The Rolling Stones to U2 & Madonna.
The pair discuss the art of building a festival lineup, the story behind bringing Bowie to Glastonbury, the future of touring, and why John believes artists, not promoters or venues, should do more to support grassroots music.
NEWSLETTER
Sign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.
SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
SoundOn
Tixel
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes
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