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The PetroNerds Podcast

Business, Investing, Management

Unconventional Thinking for an Uncertain World

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180
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1 hr 20 min
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2016
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  1. Diesel and the Global Energy War With Tatiana Mitrova

    Episode 167

    Show notes

    https://youtu.be/0XphI3eqKGc

    Recorded October 13, 2026

    In episode 167 of the PetroNerds Podcast, Trisha Curtis, CEO of PetroNerds and host of the podcast, welcomes Tatiana Mitrova back to discuss diesel prices, wartime oil flows, and the growing importance of energy security. Tatiana is a Global Fellow at Columbia University’s Center on Global Energy Policy. Together, they examine how events in the Middle East, Russia and Ukraine, and China are shaping the availability and price of fuel around the world.

    The discussion centers on a critical distinction: crude oil can continue reaching the market while diesel and other refined products remain constrained. Trisha and Tatiana explain how alternative pipelines, shipping arrangements, and rising production have supported crude supply, while refinery disruptions and export restrictions put pressure on finished fuels. They connect those pressures to Europe’s winter outlook, China’s influence over Asian fuel supplies, and the prices American consumers pay at the pump.

    In this episode

    • U.S. diesel prices respond to global conditions even when domestic supply is adequate.
    • Saudi and UAE pipelines and alternative export routes are weakening Iran’s leverage and changing the risks surrounding the Strait of Hormuz and the Persian Gulf
    • China is using its refining capacity and export decisions to create geopolitical leverage within Asia and beyond.
    • Refinery closures and competition for imported fuel impact Europe and poorer nations
    • Europe has chosen anti-hydrocarbon policies, reducing domestic oil and gas production and refining, making Europe extremely vulnerable to global supply disruptions
    • Inventories, spare capacity, and alternative routes matter during a disruption.
    • Energy infrastructure and the Russia-Ukraine war.
    • The outlook for oil prices

    The market backdrop and Saudi export routes

    Trisha opens with an October 13 market snapshot, quoting WTI at $94.28 per barrel, Brent at $105.97, and the U.S. 10-year Treasury yield at 5.219%. She also highlights the gap between U.S. and European natural gas prices and the economic pressure of expensive energy and higher borrowing costs.

    The conversation begins with the reported Houthi attacks on Saudi airports and questions about protecting critical infrastructure. Trisha and Tatiana discuss Saudi Arabia’s ability to maintain oil exports through Yanbu and its East West pipeline system, the case for expanding those routes, and how adapting to disrupted shipping is reducing Iran’s influence over crude flows through the Strait of Hormuz.

    Why crude oil and diesel face different constraints

    Tatiana explains why moving refined products through a disrupted shipping corridor presents a different challenge from moving crude. Refined product tankers generally carry smaller cargoes, making military escorts more demanding relative to the volume delivered. Trisha raises the possibility of greater allied involvement in protecting those shipments.

    They connect those logistical constraints with Ukrainian attacks on Russian refineries, reduced Russian diesel exports, and limited room for additional U.S. refinery output. Tatiana explains how an adequately supplied, diesel-exporting United States can still experience high prices through its connection to the global market. Trisha also discusses diesel crack spreads, competition with jet fuel production, and seasonal demand from heating, freight, and agriculture.

    Chinese refining capacity and export decisions

    China is central to their assessment of where additional refined products could come from. They discuss unused refining capacity, restrictions on product exports, and the distinction between capacity that exists and supply that Beijing allows onto the international market.

    Trisha explains that China’s diesel export decisions are increasing its influence over fuel-importing neighbors and intensifying economic pressure on the United States, helping Iran, ahead of midterms. Tatiana describes overlapping motives, beginning with China’s own energy security and stockpiling, followed by influence over neighboring countries and advantages over competitors. While Russia, Iran, and China may have separate national interests, their cooperation serves shared objectives.

    European exposure and the cost of competing for fuel

    Trisha and Tatiana criticize European refinery closures and what they see as inadequate preparation for supply disruptions. Tatiana argues that Europe’s ability to pay a premium for diesel can leave poorer importing countries struggling to obtain fuel. The discussion extends to LNG competition, winter heating, fertilizer availability, and the possible consequences for food production.

    Trisha connects Europe’s energy costs with fiscal pressure, political instability, and military vulnerability. Both stress the importance of maintaining the infrastructure needed to supply conventional fuels, which Europe has not done, and stress that these traditional fuels remain essential to the economy and will remain essential to the economy.

    The value of inventories and spare capacity

    Tatiana examines the tension between commercial efficiency and preparedness. Extra inventories, idle capacity, and alternative transport routes cost money and may offer limited returns during normal conditions. During a disruption, those same investments can keep an economy functioning. Saudi Arabia’s alternative pipeline route is now running at full capacity and is being expanded. The two consider how market economies can support the additional capacity and reserves needed for energy security.

    Energy infrastructure in Russia and Ukraine

    Tatiana describes a war in which each side targets a different vulnerability. Russia attacks Ukrainian electricity and urban infrastructure, including water and sewage systems. Ukraine targets Russian refineries, fuel availability, and revenues from petroleum product exports. She expects continued pressure on those systems through winter and cautions against assuming that economic damage alone will end the war.

    They examine the difference between a broad energy ceasefire and a narrower refinery ceasefire. Tatiana explains why protecting refineries while leaving Ukraine’s electricity and urban infrastructure exposed would offer very different benefits to the two sides. Trisha asks about Russia’s ability to escalate; Tatiana discusses the limits she sees in conventional military capacity and the risks surrounding nuclear escalation.

    Hybrid warfare and what China is learning

    The conversation turns to Russian hybrid operations, drones, and efforts to test European responses while avoiding direct confrontation with NATO. Tatiana argues that these activities can deepen political divisions and weaken support for Ukraine. Trisha and Tatiana also consider what China is learning from Russia’s wartime experience, particularly the rapid evolution of drone technology and battlefield tactics.

    The Russian diesel announcement and sanctions waiver

    Trisha and Tatiana try to unpack the Russian diesel announcement and U.S. sanctions waiver on diesel. Both question how much additional fuel the announced volumes would bring to the market. Tatiana argues that similar quantities were already being exported, making the announcement more significant for market expectations than for the physical diesel balance.

    Winter risks and the potential for price relief

    They close with scenarios for de-escalation, improved access through the Strait of Hormuz, and additional oil and LNG supply. Tatiana sees scope for lower crude and LNG prices as supply expands and markets adapt, while remaining more cautious about diesel. Trisha agrees but also emphasizes the cumulative economic strain of sustained high energy prices and borrowing costs. Their closing discussion balances the energy system’s demonstrated adaptability with the risks of a prolonged period of expensive fuel.

    About Tatiana Mitrova

    Tatiana Mitrova is a Global Fellow at Columbia University’s Center on Global Energy Policy. Her work covers Russian and global energy markets, including production, transportation, demand, energy policy, pricing, and market restructuring.

    Guest links and related listening

    Tatiana Mitrova at Columbia University

    Episode 155: Iran, Russia, China, and Energy Security

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    1 hr 25 min
  2. The Future of American Power-Energy

    Episode 166

    Show notes

    https://youtu.be/E4nBRL3OV-A?si=fWzd-6nEpVvaMIif

    Recorded September 16, 2026, and October 7, 2026

    In episode 166 of the PetroNerds Podcast, Trisha Curtis opens with an October 7, 2026 market update before sharing her September 16th, 2026 keynote conversation from the ROSA Energy Conference. The introduction connects diesel tightness, refining capacity, restricted Chinese refined-product exports, and changing Middle Eastern oil flows with rising global bond yields, debt, and the pressure of more expensive energy.

    Trisha calls for more energy honesty: a clearer account of what is happening in the oil market, what refineries can supply, and what is driving electricity costs. She examines the difference between recovering crude flows and adequate supplies of finished fuels, while considering the financial and geopolitical risks surrounding those markets.

    The keynote brings that discussion to tribal energy development and the future of American power. Joining remotely from Big Horn, Wyoming, Trisha speaks with Roger Fragua of the Tribal Energy Consortium and Dr. Buford Pollett of the University of Tulsa about attracting investment, developing Native energy resources, expanding reliable generation, and preparing the next generation of energy professionals.

    Key takeaways

    • Crude availability and diesel availability require separate analysis
    • Refining capacity is part of energy security.
    • Energy costs interact with broader financial pressures
    • Electricity affordability requires scrutiny of the whole system
    • Reliable power is central to industrial strength
    • Long-term demand requires continued investment
    • The workforce is part of the energy challenge

    October 7 market snapshot and financial pressure

    In her October 7 market snapshot, Trisha quotes WTI at $89.57 per barrel and Brent at $101.93, drawing attention to the substantial difference between the benchmarks. She also discusses the gap between U.S. and European natural gas prices and the strain that expensive energy places on European economies.

    Her macroeconomic assessment connects rising government bond yields, debt, mortgage affordability, inflation, and political uncertainty. She examines whether the financing demands of AI investment are adding to competition for capital and focuses on the combination of fiscal and energy pressures in France and elsewhere in Europe. Trisha raises concerns about mounting economic strain without making a recession forecast.

    Diesel tightness and refining capacity

    Trisha returns to the diesel discussion from episode 165, examining gasoline-diesel price differences and regional U.S. refinery utilization. She reviews activity in the Midwest, Rockies, Gulf Coast, West Coast, and East Coast, and argues that lost California refining capacity has reduced America’s ability to respond to a tight global product market.

    She discusses French crude and diesel reserve releases as a potential source of temporary relief, along with the challenge of adjusting refinery output between jet fuel and diesel at the margin. The importance of diesel extends through freight, agriculture, rail, and heating, making refining capacity and product availability central to her assessment of energy security.

    China and the global refined product market

    Trisha examines reported Chinese restrictions on refined-product exports for October and argues that China’s refining capacity gives it influence over fuel-importing countries in Asia. She interprets tighter exports as both a supply issue and a source of geopolitical leverage, including pressure connected to the Iran conflict and the Trump administration. Her focus is on how China’s export decisions can affect an already tight diesel market and the availability of fuel for buyers elsewhere.

    Hormuz and changing geopolitical risks

    Trisha describes geopolitical whiplash in oil-market coverage and discusses reports of recovering flows through the Strait of Hormuz. She distinguishes those reports from the separate question of whether Middle Eastern refineries and refined-product exports are recovering sufficiently to ease fuel shortages.

    She considers reported changes in Saudi Arabia’s east-west pipeline and Yanbu operations, Saudi crude pricing, and the implications for physical oil flows. Her assessment also includes emergency-stock drawdowns, continuing attacks in the Middle East, Russia’s attacks on Ukrainian energy infrastructure, and Ukrainian strikes on Russian refineries. She connects those risks with the importance of maintaining refining capacity at home.

    From the oilfield to energy intelligence

    In the keynote, Trisha shares the story behind her work: a third-generation oil and gas upbringing in Colorado and Wyoming, a father and grandfather who pumped wells, and the work ethic that carried her through college, graduate school in London, and a one-way move to Washington, D.C. She recalls studying the early shale boom, North Dakota production, Canadian oil sands, and the transportation constraints that shaped the WTI-Brent price relationship. Those experiences helped build her approach to connecting activity in the field with markets and geopolitics.

    Tribal resources and the case for investment

    The discussion turns to the practical meaning of energy sovereignty. Roger describes the obstacles tribal nations face when trying to develop their own resources, including lengthy federal approval processes, and discusses the Southern Ute Indian Tribe’s Tribal Energy Resource Agreement. Trisha urges resource owners to build a clear investment case around their assets, commercial terms, infrastructure, and expected returns.

    She argues that leaders need to look beyond the immediate market cycle and make decisions with a five- to ten-year perspective. For tribes with oil, natural gas, coal, and other resources, she sees an opportunity to generate revenue, support their communities, and attract investment by explaining both the resource and the enduring need for it.

    Electricity prices and the cost of the grid

    Trisha challenges explanations that attribute rising electricity bills primarily to AI and data centers. She argues that utility capital spending, policy choices, and changes in the generation mix deserve much closer attention. Her criticism of wind and solar centers on the cost burden to consumers, the variability and the transmission, integration, and backup requirements with adding them to the grid.

    The discussion focuses on residential customers and the costs they ultimately bear. Trisha calls for closer scrutiny of utility investment decisions and makes the case for dependable generation from natural gas, coal, and nuclear power.

    Building industrial capacity and competing with China

    The keynote broadens into a discussion of America’s ability to build and maintain pipelines, power plants, refineries, and transmission. Trisha links reliable electricity with manufacturing and defense readiness, drawing on the role of the U.S. industrial base during World War II.

    She contrasts U.S. construction and permitting challenges with China’s investment in refining, coal, nuclear power, and mineral processing. Her concern extends beyond who owns mineral deposits to who can process the materials and manufacture the products that industry and national defense require.

    Nuclear power and the next generation of energy workers

    Audience questions bring the discussion to Wyoming’s nuclear development and the need to replace retiring energy professionals. Trisha supports expanding nuclear power, highlighting its high capacity factor while acknowledging the time, cost, and permitting challenges involved in bringing new projects into service.

    In response to a question from Arvin Trujillo about the shortage of younger Native professionals entering the industry, she calls for greater investment in engineering, mining, mineral processing, and the trades. She challenges companies and universities to give students a clearer understanding of energy careers and the work required to produce hard and traditional fuels and materials the economy uses like oil, natural gas, and coal.

    Oil and natural gas demand and the need for infrastructure

    Trisha remains positive about long-term oil and natural gas demand, while emphasizing that production must continually attract investment. She discusses U.S. supply potential, LNG exports, and the pipeline constraints that limit the ability to move more natural gas from the Marcellus. She also considers how Chinese crude stockpiling affects the interpretation of oil demand.

    Permitting reform runs throughout the conversation. Trisha stresses that expanding supply requires approvals for the entire system, including wells, pipelines, compression, and power infrastructure, and that projects must remain commercially viable across changing commodity prices.

    Power projects and opportunities for tribal nations

    The closing questions explore partnerships among municipalities, data centers, and energy developers, including behind-the-meter generation that supplies power at or near the customer. Trisha discusses natural gas generation, diesel backup, and the search for behind the meter alternatives using natural gas where utility service is constrained.

    She closes by encouraging tribal resource owners to consider continued oil and gas development and opportunities to build reliable generation, including a coal-fired power plant where the resource and commercial circumstances support it. She emphasizes proximity to demand, existing infrastructure, and grid connections. Throughout the keynote, her focus is on turning resource advantages into investment, useful energy, and lasting economic opportunity.

    1 hr 40 min
  3. $100 Oil, $6 Diesel, and NO to Banning Exports

    Episode 165

    Show notes

    https://youtu.be/uiecwH0josk?si=FpYEiizPecSEk-Kr

    Recorded: September 20, 2026

    In episode 165 of the PetroNerds Podcast, Trisha Curtis, CEO of PetroNerds and host of the PetroNerds podcast, examines $100 barrel oil, diesel above $6 a gallon, and why banning U.S. diesel exports will not work. She connects the Federal Reserve’s rate increase with persistent energy inflation, explains the refining economics behind her opposition to export restrictions, and analyzes China’s renewed crude purchasing and the threats to Saudi Arabia’s Yanbu East–West pipeline. The episode explores how global disruptions reach American consumers—and why continued production, refining, and trade are essential to energy security.

    Key Takeaways

    • $100 oil and $6+ diesel could keep inflationary pressure elevated.
    • Banning U.S. diesel exports could backfire.
    • U.S. energy security depends on production, refining, and global trade working together.
    • China’s renewed crude buying deserves close attention.
    • Global disruptions can raise U.S. prices even when America has adequate supply.

    Trisha begins with the relationship between energy prices, inflation, and interest rates. She questions how effectively the Federal Reserve can address an inflation problem driven partly by oil-market disruptions and explains why higher borrowing costs could slow other parts of the economy without resolving the underlying energy constraints. Her concern is not simply that oil has reached $100 a barrel. It is the persistence of elevated oil, gasoline, and diesel prices, combined with expensive mortgages, that could increasingly weigh on consumers and economic activity. She is not calling for a recession, but she explains why her assessment of the economic risks has evolved as the conflict has continued.

    Diesel is central to that discussion. Trisha looks beyond the cost of filling a pickup truck to its role in freight, rail transportation, construction, agriculture, and heating. She discusses the gasoline and diesel demand figures she is watching and the potential for sustained diesel-price increases to work their way through the wider economy. The question is both how much consumers are paying today and how long businesses can absorb higher fuel costs before passing them along.

    The core of the episode is why banning diesel exports will not work. She walks listeners through the basic mechanics of refining: a barrel of crude produces multiple products, not a single fuel that policymakers can isolate without consequences. Different crude qualities and refinery configurations affect the product mix, but gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel remain connected through the economics of processing the barrel. Restricting diesel exports could weaken refining margins and reduce the incentive to process crude, undermining fuel supply rather than delivering price relief.

    Trisha discusses U.S. commercial petroleum inventories separately from Strategic Petroleum Reserve drawdowns and credits the refining sector’s response with helping maintain supplies during the conflict. She also explains why U.S. crude imports and exports are not contradictory: the country produces light, sweet crude while sophisticated Gulf Coast refineries are equipped to process heavier barrels, including Canadian oil-sands crude. Preserving trade flows supports the production and refining system rather than detracting from American energy security.

    Natural gas provides another example of the importance of market access. Trisha contrasts low Henry Hub prices with much higher European natural-gas prices and discusses competition between Europe and Asia for LNG. Continued LNG exports are important both for sustaining and growing U.S. natural gas production and for maintaining America’s credibility as an international supplier. She warns against allowing the diesel-export debate to become a broader justification for restricting crude oil, refined products, or LNG (liquefied natural gas).

    The conversation then turns to China. Building on the previous PetroNerds episode with Jason Isaac, Trisha distinguishes crude imports, stockpiling, and end-user consumption. She examines the increase in Chinese crude purchases and challenges the explanation that attractive refining margins alone account for China’s return to the market. China’s inventory position, purchasing decisions, and management of refined-product exports provide geopolitical leverage.

    Saudi Arabia’s East–West pipeline and the Red Sea export route form the episode’s final major focus. Trisha explains why the route to Yanbu has been an essential outlet during the conflict and examines the reported attacks, including drone activity originating in Iraq. She distinguishes damage to pumping infrastructure from damage to the underground pipeline itself and discusses the importance of repairs, restored flows, port logistics, storage, and tanker availability. She also considers the implications of disrupted Saudi crude deliveries to Europe.

    Trisha closes by bringing the discussion back to the global refined-product market, including attacks on Russian refineries and Russian diesel-export restrictions. American consumers are exposed to price increases caused by disruptions across an interconnected international system, but they have supply security. Restricting U.S. exports would not remove those pressures and could compromise the production, refining incentives, and trading relationships that help sustain supply. The answer: understand how the entire barrel and the global market work—do not assume that turning off one export stream will solve the problem.

    41 min
  4. China’s Oil War Chest—What the Market Is Missing

    Episode 164

    Show notes

    https://youtu.be/-lVSNUBo7ZM

    Recorded September 1, 2026

    China’s reported crude-oil imports have fallen sharply—but Chinese oil demand has not collapsed.

    In this China-focused special, Trisha Curtis is joined by friend, colleague, and returning guest Jason Isaac to examine what conventional oil-market analysis may be missing. They begin with WTI near $91 per barrel, Brent around $95, and a global market that has proven far more adaptable than predictions of $150 or $200 oil suggested. Despite the conflict involving Iran and disruptions around the Strait of Hormuz, crude continues to move through pipelines, alternative ports, shuttle-vessel arrangements, and rapidly changing trade routes.

    Key Takeaways

    • China’s falling crude imports do not mean oil demand has collapsed.
    • China may be sitting on a massive oil war chest.
    • Global oil markets have proven remarkably adaptable.
    • China’s energy strategy gives it growing geopolitical and market leverage.
    • Energy security requires more than resources in the ground.

    The central focus is China. Trisha argues that the dramatic reduction in Chinese imports should not be interpreted as an overnight transition from oil to electric vehicles or renewable energy. Instead, it reflects years of aggressive stockpiling, increased domestic production, lower refinery throughput, overbuilt refining capacity, continued refined-product exports, and additional crude entering through pipelines and other land routes that are difficult to track.

    China imported more than 13 million barrels per day in December 2025. Imports then fell from approximately 12.5 million barrels per day in February 2026 to 11.76 million in March, 9.3 million in April, below 8 million in May, and just over 7 million barrels per day in June. Trisha’s argument is that a material portion of the earlier volume was never end-user consumption—it was inventory accumulation. She estimates that China’s total petroleum stocks could be several times larger than commonly cited public estimates.

    The conversation then expands into U.S. crude and refined-product exports, China’s growing influence in the oil market, the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, Venezuela’s production potential, the importance of the rule of law, U.S. shale growth, natural-gas infrastructure, and the growing burden of electricity and transmission costs on American residential consumers.

    This is a wide-ranging discussion about oil-market intelligence, national energy security, geopolitical leverage, and the fundamental difference between possessing energy resources and having the infrastructure, political stability, and industrial capacity required to use them.

    1 hr 19 min
  5. Pipelines, Chokepoints, and the New Geopolitical Map

    Episode 163

    Show notes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nto_uVvh6zE

    Recorded August 20th, 2026 and August 11th, 2026

    In this special crossover episode of the PetroNerds Podcast, Trisha Curtis, CEO of PetroNerds and host of the PetroNerds podcast, sits down with energy analysts David Blackmon and Stu Turley for a wide-ranging discussion about oil prices, record U.S. production, global energy security, refining constraints, strategic petroleum inventories, and the geopolitical transformation of global oil flows.

    Key Takeaways

    • Stable oil prices do not mean the physical petroleum market is calm.
    • Record U.S. production, particularly from the Permian Basin, has helped prevent a sustained global price shock.
    • Global markets are adapting through alternative trade routes, pipelines, inventory draws, tanker shifts, and refinery adjustments.
    • Refining constraints and transportation risks increasingly influence fuel availability and regional prices.
    • Market stress may appear in shipping rates, insurance costs, crude differentials, inventories, and refinery margins before reaching WTI or Brent prices.

    Major conflicts and disruptions are hitting nearly every part of the global petroleum system. Iranian and Russian barrels are moving through alternative trading networks. Tankers and energy infrastructure are under attack. The Red Sea remains vulnerable. Russian refineries have been targeted. The Strait of Hormuz continues to sit at the center of the global energy-security debate.

    Yet the oil market has not experienced the sustained price shock that many analysts expected.

    Why?

    Trisha explains that the answer begins with the strength of U.S. oil production, particularly the Permian Basin, but it does not end there. Global oil markets have adapted through alternative supply routes, pipeline systems, inventory draws, changes in tanker movements, refinery adjustments, and the continued availability of U.S. crude oil and petroleum-product exports.

    The conversation also examines an increasingly important distinction: a stable benchmark oil price does not necessarily mean that the physical oil market is calm. Stress can appear in tanker rates, war-risk insurance, crude differentials, delivery premiums, refinery margins, inventories, and regional gasoline and diesel prices without being fully reflected in headline WTI or Brent prices.

    This episode was originally recorded as a crossover discussion with David Blackmon and Stu Turley and is presented here as PetroNerds Podcast Episode 163.

    About the PetroNerds Podcast

    The PetroNerds Podcast, hosted by Trisha Curtis, delivers in-depth analysis of crude oil, natural gas, shale production, energy economics, geopolitics, technology, and global commodity markets.

    PetroNerds goes beyond headlines and market narratives to examine the production data, infrastructure, economics, policies, and geopolitical forces shaping the energy industry.

    1 hr 5 min
  6. Nuclear’s Comeback and the Age of Energy Addition

    Episode 162

    Show notes

    https://youtu.be/sOkqLZww1Rk

    Recorded Friday, July 10, 2026

    In Episode 162 of the PetroNerds Podcast, Trisha Curtis, CEO of PetroNerds and Host of the PetroNerds Podcast, welcomes Doug Sandridge back to the show for a wide-ranging, unapologetically PetroNerdy conversation about nuclear power, electricity demand, energy security, and the global race for reliable energy. Doug is Senior Vice President of Fulcrum Energy Capital Funds, founder of Oil & Gas Executives for Nuclear Energy, an energy educator, and an adjunct instructor at the University of Oklahoma. This is Doug’s second PetroNerds appearance, following Episode 132, Oil and Nuclear, recorded in April 2025.

    Key Takeaways

    • The future is energy addition, not energy substitution. Rising electricity demand from artificial intelligence, data centers, manufacturing, and economic growth will require more nuclear, natural gas, and other reliable energy sources—not fewer.
    • America’s nuclear industry is gaining momentum. Advanced reactor demonstrations, regulatory reforms, plant-life extensions, and supply-chain investments are laying the groundwork for long-term growth, even if those investments are not yet reflected in national electricity generation data.
    • Protecting existing nuclear plants is the fastest path to expanding reliable power. Extending the lives of operating reactors and restarting facilities like the Crane Clean Energy Center and Palisades Nuclear Plant can strengthen grid reliability far sooner than building entirely new large-scale reactors.
    • Natural gas and nuclear are complementary, not competing technologies. New nuclear projects require dependable natural gas generation while reactors are under construction, and growing electricity demand means both energy sources will likely operate side by side for decades.
    • Reliable electricity depends on more than generation costs. Evaluating the true cost of electricity requires accounting for transmission, backup generation, storage, balancing services, and overall grid reliability—not simply the cost of producing power at a single facility.

    Trisha opens with the July 10 market backdrop: WTI at $71.58 per barrel, Brent at $76.04, Henry Hub natural gas at $2.94 per MMBtu, and the 10-year Treasury yield at 4.561 percent. Against that backdrop of geopolitical conflict, lower-than-expected oil prices, and rising borrowing costs, Trisha and Doug turn to the state of nuclear power in the United States.

    Doug describes the nuclear industry as a duck that appears nearly stationary above the water while paddling furiously underneath. Although material growth in U.S. nuclear generation has yet to appear in the national electricity data, policy changes, regulatory work, pilot projects, supply-chain investments, plant-life extensions, and reactor demonstrations are creating the foundation for future growth. The two discuss the Department of Energy’s Reactor Pilot Program and the four advanced reactor demonstrations that reached criticality by July 4, 2026—while emphasizing that achieving criticality is an important technology milestone, not the same thing as commercial electricity generation.

    The conversation then turns to the lowest-hanging fruit in American nuclear energy: protecting the reactors already operating and restarting plants that were closed for economic or political reasons. Trisha and Doug examine the fight over Diablo Canyon in California, the importance of long-term operating certainty for fuel procurement and capital investment, and the broader consequences of removing reliable baseload generation before replacement power is available.

    They also discuss the planned restart of the former Three Mile Island Unit 1—now the Crane Clean Energy Center—under a long-term power-purchase agreement with Microsoft; the effort to restart the Palisades nuclear plant in Michigan; and the construction of TerraPower’s Natrium advanced reactor project near Kemmerer, Wyoming. These projects demonstrate how rising power demand from artificial intelligence, data centers, manufacturing, and the broader economy is changing the economics of existing and new nuclear generation.

    Doug explains that large AP1000 reactors, small modular reactors, and microreactors will not all serve the same markets or arrive on the same timetable. Reactor restarts and life extensions can affect the grid first. Small and advanced reactors may begin adding incremental generation later this decade, while a meaningful wave of large-reactor generation will take considerably longer. Trisha compares the nuclear timeline to the shale revolution: major energy-system changes require years of investment, infrastructure construction, market development, and operational learning before they become clearly visible in national data.

    A central theme of the episode is that natural gas is not merely a temporary bridge to nuclear power. Nuclear developers need natural-gas generation to serve customers during the years between signing a power contract and bringing a reactor online. But with U.S. electricity demand growing, Doug argues that those gas plants are unlikely to be retired when the nuclear plants arrive. Instead, nuclear will be added to the system alongside natural gas and, where policymakers allow it, coal. This is not an energy transition based on substitution. It is an era of energy addition.

    Trisha and Doug then take the conversation global. They examine France’s nuclear fleet, Germany’s decision to close highly productive reactors, Belgium’s attempt to preserve its plants, nuclear development in Eastern Europe, the United Kingdom’s difficult energy position, and the relationship between energy costs and European deindustrialization. They contrast Europe’s political and industrial challenges with China’s long-term strategy of building coal, nuclear, transmission, manufacturing capacity, and energy redundancy simultaneously.

    The episode closes with a discussion of the full-system cost of electricity. Wind and solar may appear inexpensive when evaluated only at the point of generation, but the grid must also pay for backup generation, transmission, balancing, storage, and duplicate capacity. Trisha and Doug discuss the consequences of these policies in California, Germany, and Colorado, including rising consumer electricity costs, coal-plant closures, restrictions on oil and gas development, and eliminating reliable generation.

    This episode is ultimately about much more than nuclear power. It is about energy literacy, industrial capacity, economic competitiveness, national security, and the need for abundant, affordable, reliable, and redundant energy.

    1 hr 18 min
  7. Energy Security Is National Security: Oil, Hormuz, China, and LNG

    Episode 161

    Show notes

    https://youtu.be/–TRke8F1qM

    Recorded July 26 and July 9, 2026

    In Episode 161 of the PetroNerds Podcast, Trisha Curtis, CEO of PetroNerds and host of the PetroNerds Podcast, is joined by Stu Turley of Energy News Beat for a wide-ranging discussion on the intersection of energy markets, geopolitics, and national security.

    Key Takeaways

    • Iran’s threats to the Strait of Hormuz highlight the importance of resilient global energy infrastructure.
    • U.S. oil and natural gas production continue to provide America with a significant economic and geopolitical advantage.
    • China’s investments in coal, synthetic fuels, and energy stockpiling underscore its long-term focus on energy security.
    • Europe’s energy policies continue to challenge industrial competitiveness and grid reliability.
    • Reliable, affordable energy remains the foundation of economic growth and national security.

    The conversation begins with escalating tensions involving Iran and the strategic importance of the Strait of Hormuz. Trisha and Stu examine attacks on energy infrastructure and shipping, discussing whether Iran’s actions reflect growing leverage or increasing desperation. They also explore how expanding export infrastructure in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates is reducing dependence on one of the world’s most important maritime chokepoints.

    The discussion then shifts to the Strategic Petroleum Reserve and the contrasting energy strategies of the United States and China. While America remains the world’s leading producer of oil and natural gas—with crude production nearing 14 million barrels per day and natural gas output approaching 136 billion cubic feet per day—China continues investing heavily in energy stockpiles, coal-fired generation, and synthetic fuel production to strengthen its long-term energy resilience.

    Trisha explains why America’s energy abundance extends far beyond production. Refining capacity, pipeline infrastructure, LNG exports, petrochemicals, and manufacturing all contribute to a competitive advantage that supports economic growth while enhancing U.S. influence around the world.

    China’s approach provides a sharp contrast. The episode examines Beijing’s continued expansion of coal generation and coal-to-liquids projects as part of a broader strategy to reduce dependence on imported oil and prepare for future geopolitical disruptions. Rather than viewing these investments individually, Trisha and Stu discuss how they fit into China’s long-term planning for energy security.

    The conversation also explores Europe’s evolving energy landscape, including the consequences of reducing domestic coal, nuclear, and oil and gas production while increasing reliance on imported LNG. Trisha and Stu discuss how higher energy costs and declining industrial competitiveness complicate Europe’s efforts to expand defense spending and strengthen economic resilience.

    The episode concludes with a discussion on electricity markets, grid reliability, ESG and net-zero policies, American manufacturing, NATO, emerging trade relationships, and the growing strategic importance of LNG in global energy markets.

    The overarching theme is one that has become increasingly clear: energy security is national security. Countries that prioritize reliable, affordable, and scalable energy systems will be better positioned to support economic growth, strengthen national defense, and maintain geopolitical influence in an increasingly competitive world.

    Listen to the full conversation and subscribe to the PetroNerds Podcastfor additional market analysis, geopolitical insights, and expert commentary on the forces shaping global energy.

    1 hr 19 min
  8. Oil Markets, Iran, China, and the Fight for Affordable Energy

    Episode 160

    Show notes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2f7C_7ZyG0

    Recorded: July 9, 2026

    In this post–Fourth of July episode of the PetroNerds Podcast, Trisha Curtis, CEO of PetroNerds and host of the PetroNerds Podcast, welcomes Hon. Jason Isaac back to the show for a wide-ranging discussion about global oil markets, geopolitical risk, American energy security, and the policies shaping energy affordability and reliability.

    Key Takeaways

    • Iran’s ability to disrupt global oil markets is weakening as alternative export routes, pipeline infrastructure, and continued crude flows through the Strait of Hormuz reduce its strategic leverage.
    • The Strategic Petroleum Reserve should be managed as a national security asset, with policymakers recognizing the long-term implications of exchanges, sales, and replenishment on the energy market
    • China’s energy strategy continues to shape global markets, with years of oil stockpiling, strong refining capacity, and close ties to Russia influencing worldwide supply and demand.
    • Affordable, reliable energy is fundamental to economic growth, and policies that prioritize energy security over ideology are essential for consumers, industry, and developing nations.

    Trisha begins with a market snapshot—WTI near $72 per barrel, Brent around $76 per barrel, and Henry Hub natural gas near $3 per MMBtu—before examining the renewed conflict involving Iran. Trisha and Jason discuss attacks on ships and military installations, continued crude movements through and around the Strait of Hormuz, U.S. vessel escorts, ship-to-ship transfers, trucking, and the growing pipeline infrastructure that could steadily reduce Iran’s leverage over global oil flows.

    The conversation then expands to Russia’s shadow tanker fleet, Ukrainian attacks on vessels and refining infrastructure, Venezuelan and Iranian crude exports, and India’s growing role in refining Russian oil. Trisha explains why disrupting individual tankers and refineries matters, while cautioning that Russia still has multiple ways to move crude and obtain refined products.

    Trisha and Jason also break down the coordinated release from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, emphasizing the difference between an exchange and an outright sale. They discuss the relationship between SPR drawdowns, U.S. crude exports, oil prices, and the eventual need to replenish strategic inventories.

    China is another major focus. Trisha challenges conventional estimates of Chinese oil demand and argues that China’s ability to reduce imports may reflect years of aggressive stockpiling rather than a sudden drawdown of its reserves. They explore China’s refined-product exports, its economic slowdown, its energy relationship with Russia, and the enormous influence Beijing continues to exercise across global energy markets.

    In the second half, the conversation turns to energy development in Africa, international financing, the World Bank, the U.S. Export-Import Bank, European energy policy, air-conditioning access, climate modeling, fuel taxes, climate litigation, the Texas power grid, Permian Basin natural gas, flaring restrictions, transmission spending, and the cost of integrating intermittent generation.

    Throughout the episode, Trisha and Jason make the case that abundant, affordable, and reliable energy is essential to economic development, national security, and human flourishing. Prepared from the supplied episode transcript.

    58 min
  9. Oil Flows, Hormuz, China, and the Fed’s Inflation Pivot

    Episode 159

    Show notes

    https://youtu.be/B4L-5KNiqNo

    Recorded: June 21, 2026

    In Episode 159 of the PetroNerds Podcast, Trisha Curtis, CEO of PetroNerds and host of the PetroNerds Podcast, delivers a wide-ranging market update on oil, natural gas, geopolitics, China, strategic petroleum reserves, inflation, and monetary policy.

    Recorded on Father’s Day and ahead of America’s 250th Fourth of July celebration, the episode focuses on the U.S.-Iran memorandum of understanding, the Strait of Hormuz, global crude oil flows, China’s oil imports, and the Federal Reserve’s renewed emphasis on inflation. Trisha examines why oil prices moved lower despite heightened geopolitical tensions, how more crude continued reaching the market through Hormuz and alternative export routes, and why physical oil flows matter more than headlines.

    Key Takeaways

    • Oil prices softened as crude continued flowing through and around the Strait of Hormuz.
    • Saudi Arabia and the UAE’s export infrastructure helped reduce supply risks during the latest Middle East tensions.
    • China’s crude import decline does not necessarily indicate collapsing demand and must be viewed alongside stockpiling, refinery activity, and energy-security priorities.
    • The debate between the IEA and OPEC reflects competing views of future oil demand and supply balances.
    • Federal Reserve Chairman Kevin Warsh signaled a stronger focus on inflation and price stability.
    • AI-driven investment and rising electricity demand may contribute to future inflationary pressures.

    Oil Flows, Hormuz, and Energy Security

    A major theme throughout the episode is the disconnect between market sentiment and physical oil realities. Trisha walks listeners through the U.S.-Iran memorandum of understanding, disputed claims surrounding the Strait of Hormuz, and the market reaction to evolving events in the Middle East.

    The conversation examines how Saudi Arabia’s East-West Pipeline and the UAE’s Fujairah pipeline provide critical export capacity outside the Strait of Hormuz, helping maintain crude flows during periods of disruption. Trisha also reviews Strategic Petroleum Reserve releases, U.S. crude exports, tanker traffic, and the importance of understanding actual barrel movements in a 100-million-barrel-per-day global oil market.

    Why China Remains the Most Important Energy Story

    One of the central themes of the episode is China and its long-term energy-security strategy.

    Trisha challenges the narrative that declining Chinese crude imports are solely the result of electric vehicle adoption. Instead, she examines China’s stockpiling activity, refinery runs, strategic reserves, domestic production, and energy-security priorities. The discussion highlights why understanding China remains critical to understanding global oil markets, particularly as Beijing balances economic challenges with long-term strategic planning.

    The IEA, OPEC, and the Future of Oil Demand

    The episode also explores the growing divide between the International Energy Agency and OPEC.

    Trisha reviews the IEA’s June Oil Market Report and the possibility that restored production and normalized flows through the Strait of Hormuz could create a future supply overhang. She contrasts that outlook with OPEC’s World Oil Outlook 2026, which projects continued growth in global oil demand through 2050.

    The discussion raises important questions about energy security, investment, and whether current market forecasts are adequately accounting for future demand growth. For a deeper look at why the IEA’s long-term outlook may underestimate the realities of today’s energy markets, read Trisha Curtis’ recent PJ Media analysis, “The IEA’s Energy Fantasy Meets the Iran War.”

    Inflation, the Federal Reserve, and AI

    In the second half of the podcast, Trisha shifts to macroeconomics and monetary policy.

    She breaks down the June Federal Open Market Committee meeting, Chairman Kevin Warsh’s first press conference, inflation data, Treasury yields, housing, and the Federal Reserve’s balance sheet. Trisha also discusses the potential inflationary effects of rising investment in artificial intelligence infrastructure, semiconductors, data centers, and electricity demand.

    The episode concludes with a broader discussion on inflation, energy prices, housing, and the economic forces likely to shape markets through the remainder of 2026.

    Whether you’re an energy executive, investor, policymaker, or industry professional, Episode 159 provides a timely and data-driven examination of the forces shaping oil markets, inflation, energy security, and the global economy.

    1 hr 12 min
  10. Midland Talk: Geopolitics, Hormuz, China, and the Future of U.S. Shale

    Episode 158

    Show notes

    https://youtu.be/BV-3gt0wfsk

    Recorded: Tuesday, May 12, 2026

    In Episode 158 of the PetroNerds Podcast, Trisha Curtis, host of the PetroNerds Podcast and CEO of PetroNerdstakes, was on stage at the Society of Petroleum Engineers meeting at the Petroleum Club of Midland, Texas, for a wide-ranging discussion on oil markets, geopolitics, energy security, and the future of U.S. shale.

    Recorded amid escalating tensions in the Middle East and renewed volatility in global energy markets, Trisha examines how rapidly evolving geopolitical events have exposed the gap between market sentiment and the realities of physical oil. Just months before oil prices surged back toward triple digits, many analysts and industry participants were focused on oversupply concerns, weak demand forecasts, and bearish outlooks for the energy sector.

    Drawing on decades of market analysis, Trisha explains why investors, policymakers, and energy executives must remain humble when forecasting commodity markets and why understanding physical energy infrastructure matters more than ever.

    Key Takeaways

    • Oil markets entered 2026 with geopolitical risk significantly underpriced.
    • Iran’s production and exports remain more important to global supply balances than many analysts recognized.
    • China’s stockpiling strategy and refining capacity are critical variables in understanding global oil demand.
    • The Strait of Hormuz remains vital, but alternative export infrastructure is reducing some chokepoint risk.
    • Russia’s energy sector has demonstrated greater resilience than many forecasts anticipated.
    • Coal continues to play a foundational role in global energy security.
    • Reliable power generation and grid infrastructure will become increasingly important as electricity demand rises.
    • U.S. energy dominance remains a major competitive advantage for the American economy.
    • The Permian Basin continues to outperform expectations through innovation and productivity gains.
    • LNG exports and natural gas infrastructure are becoming increasingly important to global energy security.

    Iran, China, and the Geopolitics of Oil

    A major focus of the discussion centers on Iran’s role in global oil markets and the strategic relationship between Iranian crude exports and Chinese demand.

    Trisha explores how sanctioned barrels from Iran, Russia, and Venezuela contributed to perceptions of oversupply in global markets while simultaneously masking growing geopolitical risk. She argues that many market participants underestimated both the scale of Iranian production and China’s willingness to continue purchasing discounted crude.

    The conversation also examines the strategic importance of the Strait of Hormuz, one of the world’s most critical energy chokepoints. While the strait remains essential to global oil flows, Trisha highlights how Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates have invested heavily in alternative export infrastructure, including pipelines to Yanbu and Fujairah, reducing some of the region’s vulnerability during times of conflict.

    Why China Is the Most Important Energy Story in the World

    One of the central themes of the presentation is China’s long-term energy security strategy.

    Trisha argues that understanding China is essential to understanding today’s oil market. Beyond demand growth, China has spent years building strategic crude inventories, expanding refining capacity, increasing domestic production, and investing in power generation infrastructure designed to strengthen national resilience.

    She suggests that much of China’s apparent oil demand growth may actually reflect large-scale stockpiling efforts, creating significant uncertainty around traditional demand estimates. Combined with China’s continued reliance on coal, expanding electricity generation, and focus on industrial competitiveness, these policies reveal a country preparing for long-term strategic challenges rather than short-term market fluctuations.

    Energy Transition Narratives Meet Reality

    The discussion also tackles broader energy policy debates, including the role of coal, natural gas, renewables, and electricity markets.

    Trisha challenges many prevailing energy-transition assumptions, arguing that energy security and reliability remain the foundation of economic growth and national security. She points to China’s continued expansion of coal-fired generation alongside renewable development as evidence that reliable baseload power remains indispensable.

    The conversation explores how rising electricity demand from artificial intelligence, data centers, manufacturing, and electrification is creating new pressures on power grids throughout the United States and Europe. According to Trisha, years of underinvestment in dispatchable generation, transmission infrastructure, and permitting reform have created vulnerabilities that policymakers can no longer ignore.

    The Resilience of U.S. Shale

    The episode concludes with an in-depth assessment of the U.S. shale industry and the future of American energy production.

    Despite recurring claims that U.S. shale growth has peaked, Trisha highlights continued productivity improvements across the Permian Basin, including longer laterals, stronger completion techniques, and operational efficiencies that continue to surprise forecasters.

    She also discusses the growing importance of natural gas infrastructure, LNG exports, and pipeline takeaway capacity as critical components of America’s energy future. While constraints remain, particularly in natural gas transportation, Trisha argues that the U.S. oil and gas sector remains one of the country’s greatest strategic advantages.

    Whether you’re an energy executive, investor, policymaker, or industry professional, this episode offers a timely and data-driven examination of the forces shaping oil markets, power systems, and global energy security in an increasingly uncertain world.

    1 hr 23 min
  11. Frac, U.S. Shale Resilience, and the Future of Energy with Leen Weijers

    Episode 157

    Show notes

    https://youtu.be/50CmjzaZzHM

    Recorded: Friday, May 22, 2026, and Tuesday, March 17, 2026

    In Episode 157 of the PetroNerds Podcast, Trisha Curtis, host of the PetroNerds podcast and CEO of PetroNerds, sits down with Leen Weijers, former Senior VP of Engineering at Liberty Energy and one of the most respected minds in hydraulic fracturing, for an in-depth technical discussion on hydraulic fracturing, U.S. shale resilience, natural gas, and the future of energy production.

    Recorded during a period of elevated geopolitical tensions and rising oil prices, the conversation examines the operational and technological forces that continue to drive American energy production forward. With oil prices near $96 per barrel and Brent crude surpassing $100, Trisha and Leen step back from short-term market headlines to focus on the engineering innovations reshaping the shale patch.

    From frac fleets and longer laterals to proppant logistics, simulfracs, natural gas-powered equipment, distributed power generation, and geothermal lessons for shale recovery, the episode explores why U.S. shale continues to outperform expectations.

    Why U.S. Shale Continues to Surprise the Market

    One of the central themes of the episode is the continued resilience of U.S. shale production. While many analysts have repeatedly predicted shale production slowdowns or peaks, Leen explains that the flexibility of the U.S. frac industry allows operators to respond rapidly to changing price signals and market conditions.

    Importantly, both Trisha and Leen emphasize that traditional indicators like rig counts and frac fleet totals no longer tell the full story. Today’s frac crews are significantly larger, more efficient, and more productive than they were just a decade ago.

    Operational improvements such as:

    • Longer laterals
    • Higher-intensity completions
    • Improved perforation cluster efficiency
    • Better well spacing strategies
    • Simulfrac operations
    • Enhanced proppant logistics
    • Faster pumping rates
    • Better frac distribution

    have allowed operators to continue increasing production despite fewer rigs and fewer frac fleets.

    Efficiency Gains Are Outpacing Reservoir Challenges

    The conversation also addresses some of the real challenges facing unconventional oil and gas development, including:

    • Parent-child well relationships
    • Lower reservoir pressure
    • Infill drilling complications
    • Potential declines in productivity per foot in certain regions

    Despite these challenges, Leen explains that engineering innovation and operational execution continue to offset many of the headwinds facing the industry.

    The discussion highlights how the shale industry has effectively turned efficiency gains into a competitive advantage, enabling the U.S. to approach nearly 14 million barrels per day of crude oil production.

    Natural Gas Is Reshaping the Future of Frac Operations

    A major portion of the episode focuses on the growing role of natural gas in frac operations and power generation.

    Leen discusses Liberty Energy’s DigiFrac and DigiPrime technologies and explains how the industry is steadily moving away from diesel-powered systems toward natural gas-powered frac fleets. The conversation also explores how oilfield power technology is increasingly being adapted for mobile and distributed power applications, including support for rapidly growing AI and data center energy demand.

    Trisha and Leen also discuss:

    • LNG export growth
    • Reliability challenges with wind and solar
    • Distributed power generation
    • Propane and NGLs in global development
    • Energy poverty and energy abundance
    • Nuclear power
    • Geothermal innovation and its lessons for shale recovery

    Looking Ahead

    The episode closes with a broader discussion about the future of energy development and the importance of maintaining reliable, scalable, and affordable energy systems.

    As the energy landscape evolves, Trisha and Leen argue that innovation within the shale patch continues to position the United States as one of the world’s most resilient and adaptable energy producers.

    For listeners interested in the technical side of oil and gas, hydraulic fracturing, energy infrastructure, and the future of global energy markets, Episode 157 offers an exceptionally detailed and insightful conversation.

    1 hr 31 min
  12. America’s Oil Dominance: Iran, China, and the Future of Energy

    Episode 156

    Show notes

    https://youtu.be/d566d0YSwq8

    Recorded on April 8th, 2026

    PetroNerds is honored to be hosted by John Papola in episode 156 of the PetroNerds podcast. In this crossover podcast, PetroNerds CEO and energy economist Trisha Curtis joins John Papola on Dad Saves America in Austin, Texas, for a deep-dive conversation on the oil and natural gas industry, the global energy market, American energy dominance, and how geopolitical shocks — Iran and the Strait of Hormuz — affect prices at the pump.

    Trisha breaks down the numbers behind global oil and gas demand, including why the world produces and consumes roughly 100 million barrels of oil per day, why the United States is the largest crude oil producer in the world, and why America’s energy position has reshaped global markets. Trisha frames oil as central to transportation and explains that when global production and consumption become unbalanced, prices move; she also notes that the U.S. is the world’s largest crude oil producer by a wide margin. Trisha explains why oil and gas remain central to modern life, how fracking transformed U.S. energy production, what policymakers get wrong about renewables and subsidies, and why energy security is inseparable from economic growth, national security, and global power.

    Energy is not just another sector of the economy. It is the foundation for transportation, manufacturing, electricity, national security, and the modern standard of living.

    This episode is a practical energy primer for anyone who wants to understand why oil and gas still matter, why energy abundance is a strategic advantage, and why utopian thinking cannot replace physics, infrastructure, markets, or security.

    The views expressed in this episode are Trisha Curtis’ own and do not reflect the views of the Department of Energy or the United States Government.

    John Papola has hosted many experts in the studio, including Jonathan Haidt, Dr. Drew, Michael Shellenberger, Bret Weinstein, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Adam Carolla.

    Topics covered:

    • Oil and gas in everyday life
    • Global oil demand and the 100-million-barrel-per-day market
    • The relationship between GDP growth and energy consumption
    • Why coal still matters
    • Natural gas safety and infrastructure
    • Energy density and transportation costs
    • Food production, fertilizer, and ethanol
    • The reality behind “drill baby drill”
    • Fracing and the shale revolution
    • California’s oil policy
    • Renewables, physics, and grid reliability
    • Oil subsidies, inflation, and consumer prices
    • Competition and monopoly claims in oil
    • Iran, China, and the Strait of Hormuz
    • Middle East stability and energy security
    • Why utopian energy policy fails in the real world

    Learn more about PetroNerds:
    https://petronerds.com/

    Watch PetroNerds on YouTube:
    https://youtube.com/@petronerds633

    Follow Trisha Curtis on LinkedIn:
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/trisha-curtis-petronerds/

    Follow Trisha Curtis on X:
    https://x.com/TrishaJCoffee?s=20

    Dad Saves America YouTube Episode Page:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNFGie73VwM

    Dad Saves America episode page:

    https://www.dadsavesamerica.com/p/iran-china-and-the-war-for-oil-dominance

    Visit Dad Saves America:
    https://www.dadsavesamerica.com/

    2 hr 43 min
  13. Iran, Russia, China, and Energy Security

    Episode 155

    Show notes

    https://youtu.be/AAQKYuRbaj8

    Recorded April 10, 2026

    Trisha Curtis, CEO of PetroNerds and host of the PetroNerds podcast, welcomes Tatiana Mitrova back to discuss the geopolitical shocks reshaping global energy markets. Just days into the Iran ceasefire, they unpack why the latest crisis is better understood as a logistical shock than a traditional oil shock, how drone warfare is changing energy infrastructure risk, why Russia’s economy has proven more resilient than many expected, and how China is building an energy strategy centered on security, redundancy, and leverage.

    Tatiana brings a systems-level view to the conversation, explaining how large energy systems behave under pressure, how markets adapt under stress, and why the world is underestimating the long-term consequences of today’s conflicts. From the Strait of Hormuz to Russian oil production, from the war in Ukraine to China’s stockpiling and trading strategy, this episode connects the dots between geopolitics, logistics, military technology, and energy market structure.

    This episode is a masterclass in thinking beyond simple supply-and-demand narratives. It shows how energy markets are shaped not just by barrels and molecules, but by logistics, chokepoints, insurance, military technology, infrastructure resilience, and state capacity. For anyone trying to understand oil, gas, Russia, China, or the next phase of energy security, this conversation offers a deeper framework for what comes next.

    Tatiana Mitrova is a Global Fellow at Columbia University’s Center on Global Energy Policy and one of the leading experts on Russian energy, energy security, and geopolitical risk. Her work focuses on energy economics, infrastructure, chokepoints, and how complex systems behave under stress.

    In this episode:

    • Why the Iran crisis is “not actually an oil shock,” but a logistical shock
    • What the market is missing about the Strait of Hormuz, insurance, and shipping risk
    • How shadow fleets, workarounds, and parallel trading systems keep oil moving under stress
    • Why drones have fundamentally changed infrastructure security and energy geopolitics
    • What sanctions have and have not done to Russia’s economy and oil sector
    • Why Russia’s production has remained resilient, even as flexibility declines
    • How the war in Ukraine has turned into a costly war of attrition
    • Why Europe is already living in a hybrid-war environment
    • How China is using this moment to strengthen energy security and strategic optionality
    • What energy markets can learn from “systems under stress”

    1 hr 53 min
  14. Wyoming Energy with Tyler Lindholm

    Episode 154

    Show notes

    https://youtu.be/lLw1PhhXCEw

    Recorded March 16, 2026

    In this episode of the PetroNerds Podcast, Trisha Curtis, CEO of PetroNerds, speaks with Tyler Lindholm, former Wyoming state representative and current Wyoming State Director for Americans for Prosperity. They break down why Wyoming holds a major advantage in affordable, reliable energy and why the state needs to shift from defense to offense. They discuss why Wyoming sits in a uniquely strong position in U.S. energy, especially as oil markets tighten, electricity demand rises, and policymakers push permitting reform back to the center of the national conversation. The conversation covers Wyoming oil production, natural gas, coal, utility control, rare earth minerals, education funding, and the policy contrast between Wyoming and Colorado. Tyler explains why Wyoming has played defense for too long and why the state now needs to lead with confidence on energy, infrastructure, and investment. A major focus of the episode is coal-fired power generation, including the potential for a new Dry Fork coal plant near Gillette. Trisha and Tyler also explore why reliable low-cost electricity matters for industry, manufacturing, data centers, AI, and national security.

    In This Episode

    • Wyoming’s current oil and gas position
    • High oil prices create an opening for Wyoming producers
    • Federal land access, bonding pools, and BLM barriers
    • Why permitting reform matters across energy and infrastructure
    • Wyoming’s coalbed methane boom
    • Why coal still matters for reliability and affordability
    • The potential new Dry Fork coal-fired power plant
    • How out-of-state utilities influence Wyoming power policy
    • Third-party generation, data centers, and industrial growth
    • Rare earth minerals, refining, and national security
    • Why Wyoming should compete more aggressively with Colorado

    Key Takeaways

    Wyoming has the resources, location, and power cost advantage to become a bigger energy and industrial leader.

    Permitting reform is not a niche policy issue. It affects oil, gas, coal, transmission, broadband, mining, and every major infrastructure built in the West.

    Coal remains a strategic asset for grid reliability, industrial growth, and national security.

    Wyoming’s ability to shape its own energy future remains limited when out-of-state utilities control major generation decisions.

    Rare earth development and domestic processing deserve much more urgency.

    Guest

    Tyler Lindholm is a former Wyoming state representative, fifth-generation rancher, military veteran, and current Wyoming State Director for Americans for Prosperity.

    1 hr 9 min
  15. State of Energy: War, Risk, and Geopolitics

    Episode 153

    Show notes

    https://youtu.be/YNwOi5XyfbQ?si=IJ8gUgADuwjV6RtG

    Recorded March 25, 2026, and February 26, 2026

    Episode 153 of the PetroNerds podcast is a heavy-hitting, energy-dense podcast packed with intel and data in every second. Trisha Curtis, CEO and host of the PetroNerds podcast, walks listeners and viewers through a timely and thorough presentation on the State of Energy, covering topics from Iran and Russia to China and US shale.

    Trisha covers the gauntlet in a deep dive presentation given on February 26th, 2026, just two days before the war in Iran. Trisha discusses Iran’s oil production and how little geopolitical risk is priced into oil at $65 a barrel. She gets into Chinese oil demand and the Chinese economy, the importance of oil, getting energy right, and the role of coal and natural gas in power generation and electricity prices.

    She talks about the rise in electricity prices, the corresponding rise in wind and solar power, and the decline in cheap baseload power from coal. She discusses Chinese coal demand and the importance of energy in war and conflict. And Trisha introduces this podcast with a fresh update on oil prices, oil flows, and the war in Iran.

    This talk and presentation were sponsored by First Turn Capital and Liberty Energy. The presentation was hosted by the Denver Energy Network and the Women in Oil and Gas Association at Liberty Energy’s office in Denver, Colorado.

    Please reach out to PetroNerds directly at http://www.petronerds.com/.

    1 hr 36 min
  16. War and $100 Oil

    Episode 152

    Show notes

    https://youtu.be/7CWU0Yyht6Q

    Recorded March 12, 2026

    Episode 152 of the PetroNerds podcast is a one hour deep dive on the war in Iran, $100 oil prices, and the events that have taken place in the Middle East since February 28, 2026. Trisha Curtis, CEO of PetroNeds and host of the PetroNerds podcast, is joined by Jason Isaac, President of the American Energy Institute.

    Jason asks Trisha why the market did not appropriately price in geopolitical risk before the war, especially with the atrocities and executions in Iran. Trisha walks listeners through the war in Iran and Iran’s attacks on its Middle East neighbors, the effective closure of the Strait of Hormuz, shut-in barrels in the Middle East, and the impact on near-term oil prices. Trisha and Jason discuss the importance of US oil production, energy security and maintaining US energy dominance in oil, natural gas, and coal.

    They also discuss Europe’s exposure to the Middle East and rising oil and natural gas prices. Trisha discusses the chaos within Iranian leadership and whether or not the new leader is actually leading. Click to read the article and opinion piece referenced by Trisha Curtis, “The United States Must Maintain Oil Investment Amid Global Instability.” Trisha Curtis is also the Chief Economist of the American Energy Institute.

    1 hr 3 min
  17. Iran, US Shale, and Oxford Oil Day

    Episode 151

    Show notes

    https://youtu.be/YtMJzZvo9MA

    Recorded February 26, 2026 and November 7, 2025

    Episode 151 of the PetroNerds podcast is an Oxford special. Trisha Curtis, CEO of PetroNerds and host of the PetroNerds podcast, gives a 20 minute introduction on the state of the oil market, Trump’s State of the Union, tariffs, geopolitics and Iran. This body of this podcast is Trisha’s talk and presentation to the Oxford Institute for Energy Studies’ Oxford Oil Day. Trisha walks listeners through the resiliency in US shale production and why it has continued to grind higher despite lower oil prices, a lower rig count, and fewer wells being drilled. This is a heavy hitting podcast you are going to want to listen to, relisten to, and share with your colleagues and friends. Please reach out to PetroNerds directly at http://petronerds.com/.

    58 min
  18. Rockies, Risk, and Geopolitics

    Episode 150

    Show notes

    Recorded February 11, 2026, and November 5, 2025

    https://youtu.be/3B23i_w-5ig

    Episode 150 of the PetroNerds podcast is a true PetroNerds special. This 150th PetroNerds podcast is celebrated with a fresh market introduction covering oil prices hitting $65 a barrel on February 11th, 2026. Trisha Curtis, CEO of PetroNerds, gets into the oil price moves, US and Iran negotiations, China’s increased purchases of Russian crude oil, and rising US natural gas production in November 2025. The body of the podcast is the panel discussion Trisha Curtis organized and moderated at the Denver Earth Resources Library on November 5th, 2025 when oil prices were $60 a barrel. The panel discussion included Nathan Anderson with the North Dakota Department of Mineral Resources, Tad True with True Companies and Bridger Pipeline, and Joe DeDominic with Anschutz Exploration. All three executives bring a wealth of knowledge from their respective companies and oil plays. Trisha covers $60 oil and “peak shale” with all panelists. Trisha gets into the weeds on North Dakota and the Bakken with Nathan and asks Nathan to talk about the sustainability of production, the interest by private equity, and how much there is left to drill in the prolific Williston Basin. She asks Joe to talk about Anschutz’s position in the Powder River Basin in Wyoming as well as the Uinta in Utah. Joe talks about their lower well costs and how they are positioning themselves at $60 oil. Trisha and Tad discuss the midstream side of the business, and Tad’s experience in North Dakota, the Uinta, and the Powder.

    1 hr 20 min
  19. Geopolitics, Iran, and US Shale

    Episode 149

    Show notes

    Recorded January 20, 2026, and November 13, 2025

    https://youtu.be/BpqTFn-8AUk

    Episode 149 of the PetroNerds podcast is a heavy-hitting, energy-dense, PetroNerdy geopolitical special. Trisha Curtis, CEO of PetroNerds and host of the PetroNerds podcast, packs hours of intel into her 30-minute talk and presentation to the PetroLeum Alliance of Oklahoma on November 13, 2025.

    Fresh from London, Trisha does not miss a beat in Oklahoma City, covering the state of the oil market, the pessimism seen in oil prices throughout 2025, the resiliency of US shale, and the incredible geopolitical risk factors not being priced into oil, including China and Russia. Trisha introduces this PetroNerds special with a complete market update focusing on the tragic events in Iran and the oil prices in the first three weeks of 2026. This is a timely, not-to-be-missed podcast you’ll want to re-listen to and share with your colleagues and friends.

    Please reach out to PetroNerds directly at https://petronerds.com/contact/ and check out PetroNerds and Trisha on Steve Gruber’s Real America’s Voice this week.

    55 min
  20. Power, AI, Nat Gas, and Venezuela

    Episode 148

    Show notes

    Recorded December 16th, 2025

    Episode 147 of the PetroNerds podcast is a PetroNerdy Christmas special. Trisha Curtis, CEO of PetroNerds and host of the PetroNerds podcast is joined by Jason Isaac, Founder of the American Energy Institute. Trisha and Jason cover the world, from US electricity and coal to Venezuela to Russia and Ukraine. Trisha talks about the economy and the sell off in oil prices and natural gas prices being overdone and the geopolitical realities still in the market, including the US seizing Venezuelan crude tankers and the ongoing Russian war in Ukraine. Jason and Trisha talk about the economy, unemployment rising to 4.6 percent, the labor market, the Paris Climate Accords, and Ford's announcement to write down EVs and focus on hybrid and more affordable pickups. Trisha talks about China and the coal fired power generation in China and how exactly this stacks up to US power generation. Trisha and Jason spend time talking about rising electricity prices, Californians being behind on their electric bills, aggressive green policies in states which has led to rising electricity prices, and the need for education and policy changes in power generation. Trisha wants coal for Christmas. She wants coal in her stocking and more coal fired power generation in the grid, not less. She talks about natural gas production, natural gas prices, and rising LNG exports. Trisha and Jason talk about the energy policies of the Trump Administration and the work Chris Wright is doing, his "I love coal" comments at the newly renamed National Laboratory of the Rockies (formerly National Renewable Energy Laboratory). Trisha Curtis is the American Energy Institute's economist. Her article in Daily Signal on "Rising Electricity Prices Started Well Before AI" can be found here: https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/11/18/rising-electricity-prices-started-well-before-ai/. And Trisha's latest interview on Steve Gruber's Real America's Voice can be found here: https://rumble.com/v731tow-trisha-curtis-pipelines-lng-and-americas-power-bills.html and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6il0x4zwJ4.

    1 hr 54 min