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Michael Rowntree held to premillennialism for years, mostly by default because nearly everyone he knew was premill. Then he preached through the book of Revelation and hit Chapter 20.

In the first of two episodes on Revelation 20, Josh sits down with Michael to talk about the thousand-year reign of Christ and what the rest of the New Testament says will happen when Jesus returns.

ABOUT THE EPISODE
Josh and Michael begin by walking through premillennialism, postmillennialism, and amillennialism, including the different branches within each. They also look at how Christians have held these views over the centuries, from Justin Martyr and Augustine to Luther and Calvin, and into the nineteenth century, when dispensationalism took hold. Michael then turns to the New Testament passages that speak most clearly about Christ’s return, including John 5:28–29, 2 Thessalonians 1:9–10, 1 Corinthians 15, and Romans 8. He explores what they say about the resurrection, the final judgment, the end of death, and the renewal of creation. Josh raises the hard questions each view has to answer, Ezekiel’s temple among them.

This is a secondary issue, and we want to talk about it like one. Michael makes his case, but he holds it with an open hand, and he’s clear that believers who land elsewhere are still his brothers and sisters in Christ.

0:00 – Introduction
1:10 – The World Made Right
3:06 – Defining the Millennium
4:31 – Premillennialism Explained
8:40 – Postmillennialism Explained
11:22 – Amillennialism Explained
19:00 – Millennialism in Church History
24:54 – Events at Christ's Return
38:31 – Death Swallowed Up Forever
45:25 – Romans 8 Creation Renewal
53:57 – Challenges for Premillennialism

BOOK:
📖The World Made Right by Michael Rowntree: https://www.michaelrowntree.com/the-world-made-right/

RESOURCES MENTIONED:
- Regnum Caelorum, Charles E. Hill (Eerdmans): https://faithlife.com/store/product/158143
- Finding the Right Hills to Die On, Gavin Ortlund (Crossway): https://www.crossway.org/books/finding-the-right-hills-to-die-on-tpb/
- Kingdom Come: The Amillennial Alternative, Sam Storms (Christian Focus): https://www.christianfocus.com/products/1564/kingdom-come
- Westminster Confession of Faith, 1.9: https://westminsterreformedchurch.org/LogicPDFs/WCF.1-10.pdf

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Python, Leviathan, Rahab, the Greek sea god Triton, and even a squid. Jennifer LeClaire’s The Spiritual Warrior’s Guide to Defeating Water Spirits names them all as marine demons working near bodies of water. What does Scripture actually say about these figures?

ABOUT THIS EPISODE
At The Remnant Radio, Josh, Michael, and Michael take the demonic seriously. We pray for people and cast out demons, and we do it biblically. That’s why sensational spiritual warfare teaching bothers us. People end up more afraid of the enemy than confident in Christ.

In this live review, we take LeClaire’s water spirits book back to Scripture and weigh its claims against the text. Bring your questions to the chat as we talk through how to tell sound teaching on the demonic from hype, and what deliverance ministry looks like when it starts with the text rather than the thrill.

0:00 – Introduction
2:40 – Jennifer LeClaire's Water Spirits
11:53 – Biblical Chaos Water Imagery
15:51 – Leviathan in Job 41
22:00 – Serpent Imagery Hermeneutic
27:16 – Behemoth in Job 40
30:42 – Acts 16 Python Spirit
34:11 – Deuteronomy 32:30 Misused
36:56 – Jonah, Job, and Leviathan
49:19 – Rahab and Isaiah 51
1:00:07 – Sneaky Squid Spirit
1:12:14 – Test the Spirits

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Is Babylon the Great a place you can find on a map? Rome? Jerusalem? A rebuilt city in modern Iraq? Plenty of people would put their money on America.

ABOUT THE EPISODE:
Josh sits down with Michael Rowntree to trace Babylon through the whole Bible. The trail runs from Cain’s first city and the Tower of Babel, through Nebuchadnezzar’s empire in Daniel, to the woman riding the scarlet beast in Revelation 17. Michael’s new book, The World Made Right, is out now, and this conversation draws on the final section, which he calls a tale of two cities.

Josh and Michael investigate: Why does she fall four separate times between Revelation 14 and 18? And why would the beast turn and devour the woman riding on its back (Revelation 17:16)? Josh presses Michael on both. He also asks about the clues that keep pulling readers in different directions: Jeremiah’s prophecy that ancient Babylon would never rise again (Jeremiah 51:26), and Peter’s greeting from “she who is at Babylon” (1 Peter 5:13).

Michael brings in Greg Beale, G.B. Caird, Sam Storms, Craig Keener and Richard Bauckham along the way. They also bring the conversation closer to home: the economic collapse in Revelation 18, whether the seven mountains of Revelation 17:9 have anything to do with the seven mountain mandate, and what it means today to hear “Come out of her, my people” (Revelation 18:4).

Join us for a deep theological discussion on the fall of Babylon.

0:00 – Introduction
1:37 – Babylon in Revelation
4:36 – Literal or Symbolic Babylon
15:17 – Is Babylon Jerusalem?
21:33 – Babylon's Seduction Today
26:00 – Garden and City Motif
36:08 – Harlot Riding the Beast
40:35 – Babylon and Empire
46:47 – Beast Turns on Babylon
52:27 – Seven Mountains Mandate
54:30 – Babylon's Repeated Falls
1:00:28 – Come Out of Her

BOOK:
📖The World Made Right by Michael Rowntree: https://www.michaelrowntree.com/the-world-made-right/

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Shawn Ryan turned to psychedelics to quiet what the war left behind. He came back from his last trip, on his own account, describing hell, then months of spiritual oppression and exorcism prayers from two priests.

ABOUT THE EPISODE:
For years the former Navy SEAL, CIA contractor, and host of one of the most-watched podcasts in the U.S., told his audience that psychedelic therapy helped him with PTSD and addiction. His most recent experience changed his mind. He describes months of nightmares, unexplained disturbances, and a series of exorcism prayers that still hasn’t settled the matter.

Josh and Michael will review his story, the treatment of PTSD with psychedelics and more.

0:00 – Introduction
4:46 – Shawn Ryan’s Ibogaine Experience
7:27 – Biblical Ethics of Medicine
14:34 – Five-Point Medical Framework
23:02 – Spiritual Dangers of Psychedelics
29:11 – Non-Hallucinogenic Ibogaine Research
40:10 – Psychedelics as Sorcery
52:56 – Ibogaine Trip to Hell
1:04:48 – Catholic Exorcism Aftermath
1:11:20 – Protestant Deliverance Ministry
1:17:47 – Lifting the Veil
1:19:43 – Scripture Over Experience

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Joshua Lewis and Michael Rowntree reach the sixth bowl in their walk through Revelation, and with it the only verse in the Bible that names Armageddon (Revelation 16:16). Michael doesn’t think it describes a war between nations at Megiddo. Josh pushes back with Ezekiel 38–39, Joel 3, and Zechariah 14, and the two of them dive deep in back-and-forth dialogue.

IN THIS EPISODE:
- Why John calls it a mountain when Megiddo is flat
- What the Old Testament prophets saw, and what they couldn’t have known yet
- How “make war” gets used everywhere else in Revelation
- Who Jesus says will be safe when it comes (Revelation 16:15)

Join us for an interesting conversation exploring the Scriptures on the end times and Armageddon.

0:00 – Introduction
1:13 – Armageddon: One Last Battle
4:14 – Literal Battle Interpretation
10:37 – Safe in Armageddon
13:18 – Make War as Persecution
20:53 – Mount Megiddo Symbolism
22:34 – Progressive Revelation & Israel
30:05 – Logical Problems with Literalism
35:27 – Global State-Sponsored Persecution
43:01 – Revelation 14 Eternal Gospel
48:34 – Israel Alliance and Idolatry
54:41 – Revelation 19 Final Victory

BOOK:
📖The World Made Right by Michael Rowntree: https://www.michaelrowntree.com/the-world-made-right/

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Jesus crossed the Sea of Galilee, freed one man from a legion of demons, then sailed straight back (Mark 5:1-21). Why that shore?

Scott of BLK SHP Bible Talk suggests an answer, and it starts fourteen centuries earlier with Joshua. God told Joshua the conquest of Canaan wasn’t finished and said, “I myself will drive them out” (Joshua 13:6). Scott’s argument is that Jesus took that personally. Follow where he casts out demons, he says, and you’re tracing the ground Israel never cleared.

IN THIS EPISODE:
-What God says to Joshua about the unfinished conquest, and why Scott hears a promise in it
-Why “Galilee of the nations” (Isaiah 9:1) carries more weight in a Deuteronomy 32 worldview
-Capernaum, the far side of the lake, and the road toward Sidon: three exorcisms and what Scott sees connecting them
-Giants, Nephilim, and Scott’s view of where some demons come from
-The strong man of Matthew 12:29, and how Scott’s reading differs from the way John Wimber preached it
-Josh’s question: pattern or coincidence?

0:00 – Introduction
0:36 – Meet BLK SHP Scott
7:25 – Joshua's Unfinished Conquest
11:44 – Jesus, the Greater Joshua
15:06 – Galilee of the Nations
19:14 – Nephilim Giants in Canaan
25:35 – Coincidence or Intentional Pattern?
31:17 – Gerasene Demoniac in Bashan
35:21 – Syrophoenician Woman at Sidon
44:54 – Are Demons Dead Nephilim?
49:38 – No Exorcisms in Judea
56:45 – BLK SHP Scott Resources

ABOUT THE GUEST:
SUBSTACK: https://blkshpbible.substack.com/
BOOK: Dynasty of Slaves: Uncovering the Archeological Record of Israel in Egypt https://www.amazon.com/Dynasty-Slaves-Uncovering-Archeological-Record/dp/B0H1JTDWSW/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0

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In Revelation 7, John hears a roll call: 144,000 from the twelve tribes of Israel. Then he turns to look and sees a crowd from every nation, too big to count. What you make of that moment says a lot about where you think Israel fits in the end times. Joshua Lewis sits down with Michael Rowntree to work through Scripture to better understand the role of Israel in the end times.

ABOUT THE EPISODE
We recorded this episode knowing the subject is tense. Antisemitism is showing up in places we never used to see it, including among professing Christians, while at the same time many believers have also been taught that loving Jesus means signing off on whatever the modern state of Israel does. So before we get to prophecy, Michael separates three things that get lumped together under one word: ethnic Israel, the nation of Israel, and God’s covenant people in Christ. He also explains his thoughts on “replacement theology” and where he stands on supersessionism.

The rest of the hour is Bible. Who are the people of God, and does Romans 9-11 promise a future for ethnic Israel? Did 1948 start a prophetic time clock? Who are the 144,000 in Revelation 7, what is the temple in Revelation 11, and who is the woman clothed with the sun in Revelation 12? Does a third temple have to be rebuilt in Jerusalem before the man of lawlessness appears (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4)? And what do we do with Daniel’s seventy weeks (Daniel 9:24-27)? Michael comes at this as an amillennialist, Josh leans a different direction on the temple, and neither of us expects to make either camp happy.

In the end, we hope our discussion drives you back to the Scriptures for further exploration.

0:00 – Introduction
5:05 – Replacement Theology Defined
12:00 – One People of God
19:20 – 1948 Prophetic Time Clock
24:37 – Abraham's Land Promises Expanded
28:37 – Revelation 5: Lion and Lamb
31:53 – Revelation 7: The 144,000
34:08 – Revelation 11 Measured Temple
37:30 – Rebuilt Temple and Antichrist
44:27 – Revelation 12 Woman Explained
59:24 – Daniel's Seventy Weeks
1:04:43 – Dispensationalism's Parenthesis Problem

BOOK:
📖The World Made Right by Michael Rowntree: https://www.michaelrowntree.com/the-world-made-right/

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Joshua Lewis, Michael Rowntree, and Michael Miller are just back from the Remnant Conference, "Prophecy & Hearing God's Voice," and they brought the Q&A panel questions home with them. Real questions from real believers curious about the gift of prophecy and want it handled biblically.

So we're taking them one at a time, Word and Spirit together. If you've been carrying a question about prophecy or hearing God's voice, there's a good chance someone at the conference asked it for you.

0:00 – Introduction
0:34 – Conference Highlights
6:07 – Delivering Directional Prophecy
12:00 – Spiritual Covering Needed?
19:08 – Testing Predictive Prophecy
26:28 – Prophecy in Church Services
33:18 – Can All Believers Prophesy?
39:22 – Word of Knowledge Explained
45:02 – Private Prayer Tongues
47:27 – Baptism in the Spirit
52:36 – Tongues on Command?
59:51 – Closing Thoughts

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"I don't believe in the rapture" has become a common line among Christians tired of end times hype. Michael Rowntree argues that every believer holds to a rapture of some kind. The real debate is when.

ABOUT THE EPISODE:
We're back in our series on the book of Revelation, and this time Josh and Michael discuss the timing of the rapture, examining pre-tribulation, pre-wrath, and post-tribulation views. They look at Revelation 3:10, Revelation 4, the 144,000 in Revelation 7, and Paul's warning in 2 Thessalonians 2 about the rebellion, the man of lawlessness, and the restrainer.

They also discuss what the early church expected. Where does John Nelson Darby fit, and what should we make of Irenaeus and Pseudo-Ephraem?

Then Josh asks the question many are too embarrassed to raise: if Jesus is coming down, why are we going up?

Join us for a biblically-grounded discussion about the Rapture.

BOOK:
📖The World Made Right by Michael Rowntree: https://www.michaelrowntree.com/the-world-made-right/

0:00 – Introduction
0:57 – Three Rapture Views
4:54 – Wrath and God's People
14:23 – Revelation 3:10 Explained
16:33 – Revelation 4 Rapture Argument
22:21 – Pre-Wrath and Revelation 7
29:04 – The 144,000 Explained
33:53 – The Restrainer: 2 Thessalonians
42:25 – Apostasia: Rebellion or Departure
44:14 – Church Fathers and Darby
53:07 – Why Caught Up?
57:46 – Revelation 19 Military Imagery
59:29 – The World Made Right

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Most of us have asked God for more power. Pastor Jon Thompson wants to know when you last asked God what you DON'T get.

Jon has spent nearly three decades on staff at Sanctus Church in Toronto. Along the way he led a functionally cessationist congregation into spiritual gifts, spiritual disciplines, and a three-year season of renewal. So when he says "God's 'no' is your best friend," it isn't a slogan. It comes from a close reading of Romans 12:3 and the "measure" God assigns to every gift.

ABOUT THIS EPISODE
A lot of believers were told that if they prayed harder, fasted longer, and lived holier, more anointing would follow. And when it didn't, some burned out, while others quietly stopped asking God for anything at all. Joshua Lewis sits down with Jon, author of Convergence, to examine whether that promise was biblical in the first place.

Josh and Jon discuss:
- Why Jon reads Romans 12:3 as a guardrail for leaders, not a ceiling to break through
- Whether praying, fasting, and holiness unlock "more" anointing
- What 1 Corinthians 14:1 and 2 Timothy 1:6 mean for pursuing spiritual gifts
- The regulative vs. normative principle
- Where godly ambition comes from, and where it doesn't
- Whether spiritual gifts are residential or occasional
- Common, office, gift, and assignment authority in deliverance ministry

They don't agree on everything. Join us for a healthy discussion among Christian brothers about how to biblically operate in spiritual gifts.

0:00 – Introduction
3:07 – Convergence Book Origins
6:20 – Regulative vs Normative Principle
11:52 – Courts of Heaven Gnosticism
16:02 – Romans 12 Anointing Limits
32:12 – Godly Ambition & Sovereignty
49:01 – Guaranteed Places of Encounter
59:41 – Revival and House Rules
1:03:09 – Love, Word, Power Gifts
1:08:29 – Residential vs Occasional Gifts
1:15:13 – Office & Authority in Deliverance

ABOUT THE GUEST:
- Jon Thompson Books & Resources: https://jonthompsonresources.com/

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A generation raised on Left Behind was told to watch for a world leader who survives a fatal head wound and rises from the dead. Revelation 13 really does describe a death and a resurrection. But whose death? And when?

ABOUT THE EPISODE:
Joshua Lewis and Michael Rowntree pick up part two of our 'Who is the Antichrist?' conversation and work through the beast, the wound, and what John wants the church to expect.

We Explore:
- Where the "Antichrist rises from the dead" idea comes from in Revelation 13:3, 12, and 14
- Whether the wound points to a person, an empire, or something bigger
- Why Revelation 12 and 13 may need to be read together
- Nero, the Nero myth, and the partial preterist reading of Revelation 17
- The "eighth head" and whether a final persecuting ruler is still coming
- Why Revelation 11:15 gives believers a reason for hope, not fear

BOOK:
📖The World Made Right by Michael Rowntree: https://www.michaelrowntree.com/the-world-made-right/

ADDITIONAL RESOURCES MENTIONED:
- The Islamic Antichrist by Joel Richardson: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7761560
- Before Jerusalem Fell by Kenneth Gentry: https://a.co/d/08slVT87
- Revelation (The Expositor's Bible Commentary) by Alan F. Johnson: https://a.co/d/07pJ7hP2

0:00 – Introduction
0:41 – Antichrist Part One Recap
2:40 – Beast's Mortal Wound
6:47 – Literal or Figurative Resurrection
7:40 – Joel Richardson's Islamic Antichrist
10:27 – Revelation 12 and 13
19:10 – Daniel 7 Beastly DNA
24:11 – Nero as Antichrist
28:17 – Revelation 17 Beast's Return
32:01 – Partial Preterism and Vespasian
37:32 – Wound, Plague, and Sword
41:37 – The Beast's Destruction

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Michael Rowntree recently posted a short addressing Deion Sanders speaking in tongues at a press conference, and pointed to Paul's instruction that tongues shouldn't be spoken in the congregation with an unbeliever present unless an interpreter is there too, so the unbeliever isn't left thinking you've lost your mind (1 Corinthians 14:23, 14:27-28).

Comments came fast: isn't there a difference between tongues spoken publicly in a church service and a private prayer language used to build yourself up (1 Corinthians 14:4)? And what about in Acts when people are speaking in tongues with no interpreter?

Was Deion praying in a private prayer language or was he doing what Paul describes as speaking in tongues in church (in public) in front of a mix of believers and unbelievers, where the interpretation rule applies?

Joshua Lewis, Michael Miller, and Michael Rowntree will answer the comments, working through 1 Corinthians 14 and the book of Acts.

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After our episode on John Bevere getting the gospel wrong (https://youtu.be/FXXvRTiLNbQ) blew up in the comments, one argument kept coming back: doesn't the Bible say your obedience keeps you saved? So we called in Theocast's Jon Moffitt to answer your questions.

ABOUT THE EPISODE:
Joshua Lewis and Jon Moffitt go straight into the texts people cited: Romans 8, Matthew 7, Matthew 19, James 2, John 15, and Galatians 3 and 5. They give a verse-by-verse case that Christ's finished work is what saves and sustains, and that obedience is the fruit of that faith, not the fuel keeping it alive.

If you've ever read James 2 and started sweating, or wondered whether the fruitless branch in John 15 is you, this conversation answers your questions.

0:00 – Introduction
2:22 – Jon Moffitt with Theocast
4:00 – Calvinism & Reformed Theology
10:07 – Romans 8 Flesh | Spirit
34:52 – Matthew 7 Workers | Lawlessness
37:54 – Rich Young Ruler
46:54 – James 2 Faith | Works
1:06:51 – John 15 Abiding Vine
1:26:18 – Galatians New Perspective Debate
1:33:06 – Galatians 5 Fruit of the Spirit
1:50:31 – Closing Thoughts On Assurance

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Everyone loves to speculate about who the Antichrist is, but the word "antichrist" never once appears in the book of Revelation. So where did our mental picture of him actually come from, and does Scripture back it up?

ABOUT THE EPISODE:
Most of what we think about the Antichrist comes from pop culture, not Scripture. So what does the Bible say? Joshua Lewis interviews fellow co-host Michael Rowntree in part 3 of our Revelation series. Together, they work through 1 John, 2 Thessalonians 2, Daniel 7, and Revelation 13 to ask whether the Antichrist is one final man, a recurring category, or something in between.

0:00 – Introduction
1:31 – Singular Versus Plural Antichrist
5:18 – Pop Culture Antichrist View
10:11 – Man of Lawlessness Explained
13:00 – Daniel's Little Horn Imagery
19:09 – Defining the Antichrist Archetype
29:12 – False Teachers and Persecution
34:07 – Daniel's Four Beasts Unified
44:01 – Nero, Hitler, and Popes
49:00 – Avoiding Newspaper Exegesis
54:03 – Practical Takeaways Today
57:28 – Book Recommendation Closing

📖BOOK:
The World Made Right: Finding Confident Hope in the Book of Revelation
https://www.michaelrowntree.com/the-world-made-right/

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What if the prophecy that came true wasn't from God at all? Scripture says that not only is that possible, but it's happened before. And, it's happening now. How can you tell the difference?

ABOUT THE EPISODE:
Michael Rowntree tackles the question, "Can demons prophesy?" The answer matters because it changes how prophecy gets practiced, interpreted, and discerned.

Starting with King Saul's unsettling character arc across 1 Samuel 10, 18, and 19, Michael traces how the same Hebrew word for prophesying gets applied to the Spirit of the Lord, to a harmful spirit, and to the prophets of Baal in 1 Kings 18.

Michael also examines whether demons can predict the future and explores why that question has to be answered carefully. Satan isn't the opposite of God, and he doesn't share God's omniscience, but Scripture and church history both describe a limited, counterfeit version of foresight that can look convincing.

Join Michael to better understand, from Scripture and church history, whether demons can prophesy and learn how to discern the real from the counterfeit.

0:00 – Introduction
0:33 – King Saul's Demonic Spirit
2:04 – Saul's Election Prophecy
2:58 – Spirit of Lord Returns
5:02 – Prophets of Baal
5:52 – Micaiah's Lying Spirit
6:49 – Deuteronomy 13 Nuance
8:01 – Irenaeus and Marcus
9:13 – Chrysostom on Discernment
9:56 – Can Demons Predict Future?
13:17 – Demonic Prophecy Conclusion
14:22 – Testing the Spirits

RESOURCES MENTIONED:
- 1 Samuel 10, 18, 19 (ESV)
- 1 Kings 18, 22 (ESV)
- Deuteronomy 13, 18 (ESV)
- Isaiah 46:9-10 (ESV)
- Acts 16:16-18 (ESV)
- 1 Corinthians 12; 1 John 4
- Irenaeus, Against Heresies
- John Chrysostom, Homily on 1 Thessalonians 5

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Everyone agrees Christians are supposed to serve. The question this episode asks is different: did we accidentally turn the pastor into a trainer instead of a minister, and is that even biblical? Who should actually be ministering?

ABOUT THIS EPISODE:
Joshua Lewis, Michael Miller, and Michael Rowntree examine T. David Gordon's 1994 ETS paper (link below) that Ephesians 4:11-12 has been misread for decades. Gordon doesn't question whether ordinary Christians should serve. He questions whether the ordained minister was ever supposed to be a trainer at all, or whether that reading caught on because it fit American egalitarian, populist instincts more than it fit the text.

We're exploring Gordon's grammar, his word study, and his provocation about American church culture, and testing all three against Scripture ourselves. Does his argument hold up, or does he overreach? And if his proposition holds, what does that mean for churches built on the idea that pastors only equip the saints?

GORDON'S PAPER:
https://etsjets.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/files_JETS-PDFs_37_37-1_JETS_37-1_069-078_Gordon.pdf

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How should we read the Book of Revelation? It's easy to write it off as the most confusing book in the Bible, with multiple viewpoints on how to interpret it. Joshua Lewis sits down with fellow co-host Michael Rowntree, author of the new book The World Made Right, to discuss the rules and perspective we should apply to apocalyptic literature (the genre Revelation belongs to). Michael says the moment we reach for a newspaper to decode Revelation, we've already misread it.

ABOUT THE EPISODE:
Michael and Josh examine why the Apostle John calls his own book "signified" in the very first verse, why Revelation interprets itself and leans on the Old Testament, and why the book was written to form the church, not just predict its future.

Michael breaks down the layers of genre at work, apocalyptic, prophetic, and a letter all at once, and why getting that right changes how you read every image in the book. They also explore recapitulation, the way Revelation circles back and re-magnifies the same events (Revelation 4, 6, 11, 16) instead of moving in a straight timeline, and discuss the four major interpretive lenses believers bring to the book: preterist, futurist, idealist, and historicist.

Join us to hear why Michael says, "Revelation is for us, but it's not about us," and how reading it with the right rules and perspective turns it into a book of hope, not fear.

0:00 – Introduction
0:56 – Reading Revelation Differently
4:31 – Symbolism vs Literalism
10:14 – Apocalyptic Genre Explained
16:15 – Prophecy Foretelling Forthtelling
20:04 – Revelation As Letter
22:34 – Why Genre Matters
33:06 – Preterist Futurist Idealist Views
37:54 – Recapitulation In Revelation
44:07 – Four Views Compared
54:55 – Tools For Interpretation
58:45 – Book Pre-Order | Available at RemCon

ABOUT THE BOOK:
The World Made Right: Finding Confident Hope in the Book of Revelation by Michael Rowntree (Zondervan, October 20, 2027 — pre-order includes bonus content, including a commentary on Daniel 7): https://www.michaelrowntree.com/preorder-bonuses/

RESOURCES MENTIONED:
The Climax of Prophecy: Studies on the Book of Revelation by Richard Bauckham: https://www.amazon.com/Climax-Prophecy-Studies-Book-Revelation/dp/0567086259
The Theology of the Book of Revelation by Richard Bauckham: https://www.amazon.com/Theology-Book-Revelation-New-Testament/dp/0521356911
Apocalyptic by Leon Morris: https://www.amazon.com/Apocalyptic-Leon-Morris/dp/0802814557
The Fathers on the Future: A 2nd-Century Eschatology for the 21st-Century Church by Michael Svigel: https://www.amazon.com/Fathers-Future-2nd-Century-Eschatology-21st-Century/dp/1496487664

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Skillet's John and Korey Cooper just described spiritual abuse they endured at an NAR church. Unfortunately, their story shapes a pattern showing up in many churches across the country. Josh, Michael and Michael will speak with a former elder of the Cooper's church to understand what happened and learn how to better recognize spiritual abuse.

ABOUT THIS EPISODE:
John and Korey Cooper recently sat down for a long, detailed interview on Alisa Childers' YouTube channel (link to full episode below) and described what they say happened inside Korey's lifelong church. Leadership they'd trusted for decades had quietly embraced New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) theology. When the Coopers began asking direct theological questions, they say the response wasn't a proper answer. Instead, it was pressure, prophetic words used against people close to them, and warnings that leaving would cost them God's blessing.

In reviewing the Coopers' story, Joshua Lewis, Michael Miller, and Michael Rowntree will walk through what the New Apostolic Reformation actually teaches about apostolic authority, why "sound doctrine" so easily gets redefined once a leader claims that kind of role, and why asking a direct question about a church's beliefs should never be treated as rebellion. We'll look at where this movement's theology runs into what Scripture actually says about who qualifies to lead (1 Timothy 3, Titus 1:9), who the church is actually built on (Ephesians 2:20), and whether any leader, even a real apostle, is above correction (Galatians 1:8).

Join us to better understand the Coopers' story and learn how to spot spiritual abuse before it costs you.

ALISA CHILDERS' INTERVIEW:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GwayjaKqfQ

0:00 – Introduction
2:13 – Caleb's Background Story
3:20 – Reacting to Cooper Interview
9:36 – Church Structure Overview
15:12 – VNC Course Explained
18:23 – Apostles as Foundation Doctrine
27:47 – Caleb's Theological Journey
33:35 – Relational Leverage and Control
39:24 – Darvo Text and Gaslighting
44:07 – Right vs Wrong Loyalty
50:41 – Isolation and Matthew 18
58:00 – Gossip vs Slander Defined
1:06:35 – Third-Party Investigation Findings
1:11:24 – False Visions Red Flags
1:16:11 – Hope and Healing After

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John Bevere's "Under Cover" has sold close to half a million copies and shaped how a generation of churches views submission. In a previous episode, Joshua Lewis and Michael Miller discussed the dangers of the type of authority Bevere's book promotes (see link below). But does "Under Cover" also present a different Gospel?

ABOUT THIS EPISODE
Josh and Michael return to "Under Cover" to track how often the book confuses law and gospel, treating obedience as the source of faith and the ground of salvation instead of its fruit. They compare Bevere's own quotes against Luke 14, Matthew 7, Galatians, Hebrews 11, and James 2.

Unfortunately, what they find is a consistent pattern: obedience is the ground of assurance instead of its fruit, and faith is treated as something you earn your way into rather than something freely given.

Join us to understand where Bevere's book veers from Scripture and how to better recognize doctrinal drift when you see it.

0:00 – Introduction
1:03 – Law and Gospel Explained
6:49 – Luke 14 Wedding Parable
17:16 – Matthew 7:21 Lord Lord
30:41 – Bevere's Sobering Vision
35:04 – God's Unconditional Acceptance
42:43 – Cain, Abel, and Faith
50:31 – Galatians and Witchcraft Curse
59:51 – Abraham's Obedience Examined
1:09:16 – James, Faith Without Works

PREVIOUS EPISODE ON JOHN BEVERE'S "UNDER COVER":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWoF5MsH9pE

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Ask a first-century rabbi if biblical prophecy had ceased, and he'd say yes. Ask him if God still spoke, and he'd tell you about the Bat Kol.

ABOUT THIS EPISODE:
Josh, Michael and Michael explore the biblical case that prophecy operates at more than one level of authority. Scripture itself is uniquely inspired, infallible, and authoritative, while other genuine prophetic revelation can still occur without becoming Scripture. To explore this more, we turn to rabbinic Judaism and the fascinating concept of the Bat Kol.

Bat Kol means "daughter of a voice." It's rabbinic Judaism's term for a diminished echo of prophecy that kept showing up long after the age of the biblical prophets. This historical evidence suggests that the idea of genuine, non-canonical revelation was not foreign to ancient Jewish thought and may provide important historical support for the continuity view of prophecy.

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