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The Skift Travel Podcast
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Skift sits down with creatives, executives, and entrepreneurs from across travel to discuss their insights and perspectives on the hows and whys of travelers’ habits, industry patterns, and the seismic changes happening across the industry.
Listen for exclusive conversations with travel leaders and Skift's own in-house editors and analysts.
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- #116
- Episodes
- 340
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- Weekly
- Typical length
- 43 min
- On air since
- 2015
- Latest episode
- 4 days ago
Episodes
340 episodes, newest first
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43 min
Travel Prices Are Surging. Can Demand Keep Up?
Show notes
U.S. airfares are up nearly 19%, but passenger volumes are essentially flat. Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko examine what the latest travel data reveals about pricing power, consumer spending, and the industry's outlook for 2027.
They also discuss JetBlue's critical earnings report, Hilton's technology ambitions, Airbnb's controversial checkout policy changes, and why 6,000 people want to become the new voice of Boston Logan Airport.
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00:00 Cold Open Weekly Number 00:37 Seth in Albuquerque 01:33 Roadrunner Sighting 02:41 Show Agenda Setup 03:10 Travel Demand Data Slide 04:02 Airlines Hotels Overseas Trends 06:58 Consumer Wages Inflation Debate 10:43 Live FRED Economics Corner 15:15 Earnings Season Overview 16:27 JetBlue Rumblings and Rally 20:06 Hilton as Tech Company 21:26 Hilton Goes Tech Forward 22:31 Nasdaq Move Signals Optics 24:23 AI Inflection Point Ahead 25:18 Airbnb Cracks Down On Chores 27:14 Host Pushback And Privacy 30:17 Airbnb Goes More Professional 34:02 Winner Boston Accent Announcer 37:06 AI Mentions Over Under Bet 39:13 Irish Coffee And Wrap Up
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48 min
Travel's $100 Billion Opportunity Is Being Overlooked
Show notes
Baby boomers and retirees represent a $100 billion annual travel spending opportunity, but are travel companies paying enough attention?
Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko break down new Skift Research on older travelers, premium spending, and the next decade of retirement travel. They also discuss shifting transatlantic travel demand, why Canadians are choosing Europe over the U.S., and the challenges destinations face in attracting visitors beyond traditional tourism hotspots. Plus, rising airfare costs and the latest airline and hotel trends.
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00:00 Retirees Spend Big
01:21 Retirement Daydreams
02:14 Ireland Summit Recap
03:20 Spooky Ghosts Detour
06:24 AI Summit Highlights
07:46 Transatlantic Trends
08:48 Canada US Split
12:27 Overtourism Spread Out
15:04 Heritage Travel Stories
19:04 Americans Travel Smarter
22:47 Boomers Fly Business
24:03 Boomer Research Backlash
25:09 Silver Tsunami Spending Surge
27:51 Selling Past Cost Consciousness
29:30 Gen X Retirement Wave
30:55 Airplane Barf Bag Debate
33:00 Wi Fi Nostalgia Ends
34:30 Travel Pet Peeves List
35:35 Winners Losers Earnings
40:08 Fares Fuel and Competition
42:08 JetBlue Lounge Design Win
45:25 Wrap Up and Goodbye
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38 min
AI Agents Are Here. Travel Isn't Ready.
Show notes
Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko test whether AI agents can actually complete everyday purchases, and discover why the next battle in travel distribution may be over who can accept an agent's booking.
Fresh from Skift's Data and AI Summit Europe, Seth shares why travel companies are still struggling with agentic commerce, trust, loyalty pricing, and AI visibility. They also examine how attacks on Saudi Arabian airports threaten the kingdom's aviation ambitions and why rising airfares may finally be testing travelers' willingness to pay.
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00:00 Coffee Bet Payoff 01:53 Agentic Commerce Lessons 02:25 Budget Caps And Pastry 04:32 Delivery Confusion Moment 05:21 Which Platform Ordered 06:51 Login Blocks And Guest Checkout 08:42 Travel Industry Implications 11:36 When Agents Feel Exhausting 13:05 Loyalty Rates And Bot Risk 15:39 Agents Still Niche 16:55 Data And AI Summit Recap 17:45 Agents Arrive Fast 18:13 Get Found or Skipped 19:13 Interface Is Disappearing 19:30 Trust and Guardrails 20:10 No Clear AI Winner 21:00 Skift Events Ahead 22:08 Saudi Airport Attacks 26:16 Tourism Goals at Risk 30:04 Winners and Losers 32:06 Price Shock Reality Check 34:33 Wrap Up and Farewell
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1 hr 2 min
Andrew Zimmern on Why Travel Needs Trust in the AI Era
Show notes
Andrew Zimmern joins Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko to discuss how AI, social media and the creator economy are changing the way travelers discover the world.
Zimmern argues that travel is entering a “trust economy,” as travelers navigate AI-generated recommendations, faceless travel accounts and millions of people presenting themselves as experts. He also explains why context matters more than bucket-list travel, what the demand for his guided trips says about the appetite for human-led experiences, and why he believes we all need “editors” in our lives.
The conversation covers food, overtourism, travel media, social discovery, hotels and some of Zimmern’s favorite destinations and travel experiences.
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00:00 Special Guest Intro
00:55 NYC Pizza Rant
02:03 Suprema Photo Story
05:46 Price Value Debate
08:58 Lines And Hype
11:43 From Food Lines To Overtourism
16:00 Elitism And Bucket Lists
18:44 Curated Tours Done Right
20:35 Russ And Daughters Lore
22:55 Whitefish Express History
24:58 Kayak Fishing Close Call
26:29 Travel Media In The Phone Era
31:39 Trust Amid Uncertainty
32:38 Trust Economy Shift
35:06 Traditional Media Credibility
36:43 Creating Without Gatekeepers
37:34 Why Everyone Needs Editors
43:41 From Bootstraps to Globalism
44:40 Inside Zimmern Tours
49:36 China Travel Obsession
50:39 Surprisingly Great Cruise
53:11 Hotel Geek Favorites
58:02 Travel Prep Through Fiction
59:16 Final Thanks and Signoff
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18 min
Growth Under Pressure: The Decisions Hotel Brands Are Making Now
Show notes
Recorded live at Skift Global Forum 2026, Jeremy Kressman talks with Heather Balsley, Chief Commercial and Marketing Officer at IHG Hotels & Resorts, and Peter Manoogian, Partner at ZS, about hotel owner profitability, conversions and the changing economics of hotel growth.
They also discuss how AI is reshaping hotel search, loyalty and distribution, and why machine-readable, accurate and consistent hotel content is becoming a critical demand driver.
The conversation closes with a look at where hotel companies should focus their technology investments and why AI initiatives need to deliver more than marketing hype.
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00:00 Intro
00:47 Owner Profitability
02:45 Conversions vs. New Builds
04:45 Demand Capture
06:30 Loyalty in the AI Era
08:45 Tech Investment Priorities
12:15 Final Takeaways
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32 min
AI Is Here. Now Travel Has to Figure Out Who to Trust.
Show notes
Recorded live at Skift Global Forum, Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko recap the biggest conversations from three days in New York, including AI agents, autonomous vehicles, Airbnb’s push into hotels, hotel owner economics and Prince Harry’s focus on destination sustainability.
They also explore the theme that came up repeatedly across the forum: trust. As AI moves from theory into products that can research, book and act on travelers’ behalf, Sarah and Seth discuss what it means to trust machines and who is accountable when things go wrong.
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00:00 Live From Skift Global Forum 03:00 The Biggest Highlights From Global Forum 07:00 Prince Harry and the Future of Sustainable Travel 10:00 Uber, Autonomous Vehicles and the Future of Travel 13:00 Hotel Owners, Brands and the Franchise Debate 16:30 The Biggest Theme at Global Forum: Trust 19:00 AI Is No Longer Theoretical 22:00 Why the Travel Industry Is Chasing Scale 24:00 What Does Travel Look Like in 30 Years? 26:00 Winners, Losers and Space Business Travel 28:45 The AI Agent Coffee Bet
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39 min
The $100 Billion Travel Market Everyone Underestimates
Show notes
Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko discuss Skift Research’s new Silver Tsunami report and the nearly $100 billion U.S. retirees are expected to spend on travel in 2026.
They also preview Skift Global Forum, including Airbnb’s push into hotels, the travel infrastructure companies building around AI, and the growing debate over AI risk. The episode closes with a discussion of rising borrowing costs and what higher interest rates could mean for travel development and supply.
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00:00 Retirees Spend Big
01:14 Silver Tsunami Explained
02:32 Gen Z vs Older Travelers
05:47 Survey Insights on Spending
07:05 Urgency and Mortality
09:41 Cruises and Product Fit
10:09 Retiree Spend Forecasts
12:07 Hotels Meet Communities
14:01 Global Forum Preview
15:41 Airbnb Hotels and AI
18:48 AI Risk Goes Mainstream
26:45 Winner Power Rankings
31:46 Loser Fed Rate Hike
34:07 Rates Impact Travel Builds
36:16 Wrap Up and Tickets
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18 min
Premium Is Becoming Table Stakes for Travel. Now What?
Show notes
Premium travel is booming, but the opportunity is becoming much bigger than luxury.
In this special episode of the Skift Travel Podcast, brought to you by ZS Associates, Jeremy Kressmann, Vice President, Skift Studio, sits down with Alex Trusca, Associate Principal, ZS Associates, to unpack why premiumization is emerging as a broader commercial strategy across travel.
They discuss why premium spending can extend well beyond high-income travelers, how brands can use services like late checkout, early check-in, priority access, and personalized offers to create incremental revenue, and why simply charging travelers for something they previously received for free isn’t a premium strategy. The conversation also explores how travel brands can use personalization to capture different willingness-to-pay across the same customer’s trips and occasions.
Jeremy and Alex also look at the next generation of premium travelers, what luxury brands need to do before younger consumers’ preferences lock in, and the question commercial leaders should be asking as they build their 2027 strategies.
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42 min
Travel’s New Access Divide
Show notes
Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko reflect on 25 years since 9/11 and how the attacks reshaped modern travel, from TSA and airport security to PreCheck, Clear, and the airport gate experience.
They also discuss why New York City hotels are so expensive in September, how peak-demand “compression nights” drive hotel pricing, and what Sarah’s experience using Instinct reveals about the next phase of AI-powered travel booking.
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00:00 Remembering 9/11
01:04 Seth’s 9/11 Story
04:22 How Flying Changed
08:40 Travel Resilience Data
11:12 Airlines Consolidate
15:08 NYC Travel Now
17:48 Hotel Rates Explained
23:12 Instinct AI Agent
28:05 Reservation Wars
33:36 Winners and Losers
39:42 Wrap Up and Plug
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53 min
Fake AI Hotel Videos Are Coming for Travel
Show notes
Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko break down two travel distribution stories that are really about trust.
First, Skift found AI-generated TikTok Go videos promoting a Sedona luxury resort with fake amenities, fake-looking creators, and commission tags that did not match the booking reality. Then, they unpack Dennis Schaal’s reporting on a bombshell estimate that Booking may be larger than Expedia in B2B room nights — a finding that could reshape how the industry thinks about OTA competition.
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00:00 AI TikTok Resort Scam
02:33 Breaking Down TikTok Go
03:23 Fake Amenities and Synth Creators
04:58 Cylon Detour
06:11 Affiliate Incentives Explained
07:30 Broken Links and Bad Actors
08:36 Owners and Brand Protection
13:06 Economics of TikTok Go
18:51 Trust Crisis for Travel Brands
23:19 Real World Guest Fallout
24:22 OTAs Meet TikTok
25:40 B2B White Label Basics
27:06 Real World Examples
29:43 Expedia B2B Dominance
32:07 Booking Consolidates B2B
33:35 Jaw Dropping Analyst Note
35:51 Scale Explains Surprise
43:27 Product Quality vs Volume
46:32 Winners and Losers
48:24 Global Forum Wrap Up
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49 min
United’s New Routes Reveal Travel’s Next Bet
Show notes
United is adding 10 new international routes, from Ibiza and Slovenia to Okinawa and Sardinia.
Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko discuss what the expansion says about premium leisure demand, how new long-range narrowbody aircraft are changing route economics, and why Generator’s premium-hostel strategy points to a new opportunity in the squeezed mid-market hotel space.
00:00 United Adds 10 Routes
00:54 Which Flights To Book
02:29 Leisure Travel Targeting
04:39 Premium Status Signaling
05:34 A321XLR Explained
07:19 Long And Skinny Economics
08:43 Charting Narrowbody Growth
10:25 Big Plane Nerding
12:43 More Oddball Nonstops
15:49 Hostel News And Freehand
18:46 Generator Goes Premium
21:55 Luxury Ladder Strategy
22:34 Generator Hostel Growth
23:24 Hostel Stigma and Selina
24:33 Pod Hotels vs Lifestyle
26:18 Airbnb and Segmentation
26:49 AI Op Ed Debate
30:40 Bad Writing and Care
35:10 AI Detectors and False Positives
40:17 Winners and Losers
43:31 NYC BQE Winner
45:49 Listener Questions and Wrap
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44 min
Travel’s AI Reckoning Has Arrived
Show notes
Google paid $10 million for Spirit Airlines’ data. Airbnb is showing real AI-driven savings. Booking says AI still accounts for less than 1% of room nights.
Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko break down travel’s AI reckoning: what is paying off, what is still experimental, and why data, trust, and ROI now matter more than AI hype.
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00:00 Google Buys Spirit Data
01:35 AI’s Hunger for Training Data
03:13 LLM Language Quirks
05:39 From Jokes to Business Impact
05:45 Bankruptcy Data as New Brand
08:03 Why Travel Data Is Special
10:25 Seat Politics and Spotify Age
13:18 Google’s ITA Playbook
18:13 AI Usefulness in Travel Tech
20:09 Airbnb AI ROI Proof
22:17 Beyond Chatbots Debate
25:43 Revenue Upside Signals
29:23 Bookings Still Tiny
31:34 AI Trip Planning Stories
34:45 Trust Gap Chart
36:46 Who Owns Booking
38:37 GDS Plumbing Goes AI
39:43 Winners Listener Shoutouts
41:36 Closing Thanks
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51 min
The State of Travel Is Getting Harder to Control
Show notes
Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko unpack two forces reshaping travel: the creator economy’s impact on hotel brands and Skift Research’s State of Travel 2026 report.
They discuss the Aman creator controversy, why hotels need a new playbook for independent reviewers, and the new Travel Stack framework showing how consumers, commerce, operations, and experiences are changing across the industry.
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00:00 State of Travel Teaser
01:04 Inside the Report
02:22 Chart Nerd Talk
03:03 Ironing Board Hack
06:44 Aman Drama Goes Viral
08:48 Creator vs Media Explained
10:49 What Happened at Aman
14:08 Aman Responds to WSJ
16:53 Crisis Comms Lessons
21:05 Creators and Headlines
24:43 Back to State of Travel
25:05 Whimsy Meets Data
25:54 New Travel Stack Framework
28:18 Breaking Down Consumers
31:11 Favorite Charts and Trends
33:08 Booking Channels Trust Gap
35:25 Green Talkers Sustainability Gap
36:34 Psychographics Explained
43:40 Finding the Report Link
44:29 Black Toilet Seat Update
45:18 Winners Losers Eclipse Tourism
47:43 Final Goodbye and Feedback
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44 min
Why Every Major Hotel Brand Is Giving Money Back to Owners
Show notes
Marriott, Hilton, and Hyatt are all offering new relief to hotel owners. Climate is creating new operational challenges for hotels around the world. And Japan has transformed a former prison into one of its most unique luxury hotels.
Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko explore what these stories reveal about the future of hotel ownership, climate adaptation, and heritage tourism.
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00:00 Franchise Relief Moment
03:31 Marriott Rebate Program
06:11 Performance Linked Bonuses
09:16 Never Cut Core Fees
11:37 Unbundling Franchise Services
14:33 Europe Air Conditioning Crunch
20:24 Sargassum Seaweed Crisis
24:13 Travel Squeeze Reality
25:35 Heritage Hotels Explained
26:56 Ghosts And Horror Debate
28:07 Prison Hotel Luxury
31:04 Raffles OWO Spy Bar
34:14 Preserving Stories For Profit
38:20 Winners And Losers
39:15 Space Conferences Boom
41:18 Conference Season Wrap
41:41 Episode Farewell
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42 min
What Earnings Season Reveals About Travel Right Now Subtasks
Show notes
Fora became travel's newest unicorn, Amazon is pushing deeper into AI travel booking, and earnings season is revealing where the industry is gaining momentum.
Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko discuss how AI is changing travel distribution and what the latest results from Hilton, JetBlue, and Royal Caribbean say about the second half of the year.
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00:00 Fora Hits Unicorn
00:56 Beach Vacation Banter
02:40 Why Fora Matters
03:31 AI Revives Travel Agents
05:26 Alexa Books Travel
07:53 Does Voice Really Work
10:40 Amazon Travel Déjà Vu
12:40 Old Ideas Return
14:39 2018 Report Flashback
16:06 IHG Conversational Search
19:26 No Single Front Door
21:32 Google Still In Play
22:41 AI vs Travel Giants
24:06 Hilton Fee Cut
27:50 Incentives and RevPAR
28:42 JetBlue Turnaround Plan
30:40 Low Cost Carrier Squeeze
33:00 LaGuardia Marine Terminal
35:25 Winners and Losers
35:45 Royal Caribbean Fuel Hit
36:47 Space Licensing and Tourism
39:29 Long Term Outlook Farewell -
51 min
We Graded Our Biggest 2026 Travel Megatrends
Show notes
The U.S. passport is no longer among the world's most powerful. Skift revisits its biggest travel megatrends of 2026, and The Odyssey is already driving tourism in Norway.
Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko discuss what shifting passport rankings reveal about global influence, which travel megatrends have held up through the first half of the year, and why movie tourism continues to be a powerful force for destinations.
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00:00 Passport Power Rankings
02:35 Dressing Up to Travel
03:32 Ironing Boards Crusade
05:03 Henley Index Deep Dive
07:52 Megatrends Midyear Game
10:34 Tourists Skip the US
13:13 Marketing for AI Search
14:44 Sustainability Reality Check
16:51 Mocktails Take Over
20:07 Luxury Boom Debate
21:58 Self Driving Trend Watch
23:37 Train Renaissance Tease
23:48 Train renaissance check-in
25:18 Flying taxis progress
25:56 Music tourism boom
27:50 K-beauty travel trends
29:46 OTA oligopoly cracks
31:30 Vibe coding tsunami
37:39 World Cup matrix reveal
44:30 Winners of the week
48:32 Wrap and sign-off
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36 min
The New Economics of Travel: Fewer Tourists, More Money
Show notes
The World Cup didn't deliver the inbound tourism boost many expected. Delta still posted strong earnings despite soaring fuel costs. And new Skift Research points to Latin America as one of travel's biggest growth opportunities.
Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko explore why the travel industry is shifting toward higher-value travelers, premium experiences, and a new definition of growth.
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00:00 Tourism Drop Shock
01:48 Why World Cup Didn’t Boost
03:47 Value Over Volume Travel
08:14 Group Stage Travel Surge
10:35 Live Tourism Everywhere
11:30 Spain Eclipse And Overtourism
13:28 Delta Premium Revenue Milestone
18:40 K Shaped Travel Economy
23:55 Skift Premium Trend Report
26:31 Winners And Losers Segment
29:02 Brand USA Takes The L
30:33 Ennismore IPO Buzz Wrap
33:42 Closing Thanks And Goodbye
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38 min
AI, Visa, and the New Battle for Travel Customers
Show notes
Visa is becoming a travel company. Mews is restructuring around AI. And Gen Z is already reshaping business travel.
Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko explore how new competitors, artificial intelligence, and changing traveler behavior are rewriting the rules for travel companies—and why these seemingly separate stories all point to the same shift happening across the industry.
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00:00 AI Layoff Banter
00:48 Delta One Unbundled
02:37 Basic Business Breakdown
03:12 Seat Selection Stories
04:27 Booking Friction Risks
06:43 Muse Cuts Explained
11:00 AI Jobs And Economy
14:55 Visa Travel Portal
17:27 Can Visa Compete
19:16 Ground Game Logistics
19:35 Lotus Hotel Points Find
21:13 Credit Card Hotel Portals
21:36 Visa Luxury Collection
22:49 Gen Z Business Travel Habits
24:17 Corporate Tools Limit Choice
25:01 Gen Z Trip Growth Stats
27:19 Business Trip Anxiety
30:02 Gen Z Workforce Shifts
31:55 World Cup Winners Losers
35:07 Signing Off Next Week
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46 min
Are Hotel Brands Worth It Anymore?
Show notes
More than 1,200 hotel franchise agreements are set to expire by 2030, and some owners are deciding it's time to leave the big brands behind.
Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko explore why independent hotels are becoming a more realistic option, how technology is changing the franchise equation, and why new Skift Research suggests consumers—and AI—may no longer see meaningful differences between many hotel brands.
00:00 1200 Expiring Flags
02:16 Why Go Independent
02:34 Series Origins Minnesota
04:46 Meet Pritesh Patel
06:36 Do Brands Drive Demand
09:40 Gary Patel and Airbnb
13:32 Territories and Soft Brands
16:54 Perfect Storm Renewals
19:42 Financing Without a Flag
22:25 Bankers See It Coming
22:54 Reporting Heartland Hoteliers
24:24 Financing Surprise and Data
25:47 Franchise Model Under Strain
28:57 Fees Soft Brands and Flex
30:48 Skift Decision Brief Launch
33:00 Too Many Brands Problem
35:46 Decision Pathways for Brands
38:08 Winners and Losers Segment
40:19 Freddy Quits X Finale
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41 min
The World Cup's Most Unexpected Winner: America
Show notes
The World Cup brought international visitors to America, expecting one thing and finding something completely different.
Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko discuss the Knicks' championship, sports tourism, viral European road trips across America, and why the World Cup may be reshaping global perceptions of the United States in real time.
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00:00 Knicks Drought Ends
00:58 Vacation and Intro Banter
01:58 Plane View and VPN Save
05:05 NYC Street Watch Parties
07:42 World Cup Overlap Logistics
10:30 Tourists Love Middle America
13:47 Brand USA Reset Moment
15:25 Why Americans Feel Friendly
18:11 DMOs and Small Town Appeal
20:08 Prediction on Inbound Rebound
20:33 Olympics Travel Momentum
21:38 Politics Off The Feed
22:35 Buc-ees Goes Viral
24:53 Most American Experiences
28:06 Rediscovering Niagara Falls
30:32 Early Hotel Data Boost
32:50 Winners And Losers
33:18 Mexico Sargassum Crisis
36:49 Cenotes And Closing
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