Podcast

The Storied Outdoors

Sports, Wilderness

A podcast somewhere between Lewis and Tolkien and Lewis and Clark, finding clarity in the stories we tell and the adventures that shape us.

Episodes
191
Releases
Weekly
Typical length
53 min
On air since
2020
Latest episode
6 days ago

Episodes

191 episodes, newest first

  1. Ep. 191 Stoking Embers | Seth Lewis

    Episode 191

    Show notes

    Ep. 191 Stoking Embers | Seth Lewis

    31 min
  2. Ep. 190: Seth Lewis Author: Language of Rivers and Stars

    Episode 190

    Show notes

    Today on The Storied Outdoors, we sit down with writer Seth Lewis, author of The Language of the Rivers and the Stars, for a conversation about wonder, creation, and learning to pay attention.

    Seth takes us back to his childhood adventures growing up in Huntsville, Alabama, and the mountains of North Alabama, sharing stories of exploration, including learning to trust his dog’s remarkable homing instincts. His journey eventually took him to Ireland, where living and pastoring among breathtaking landscapes deepened his sense of awe and helped shape an idea that would become central to his writing: creation has a language.

    But what does creation say?

    For Seth, the rivers, mountains, stars, wildflowers, and even the chaos of the sea can point beyond themselves to the glory, wisdom, and character of God. Creation doesn't replace revelation, but it gives words like glory, wonder, and majesty a meaning we can experience.

    Drawing on C.S. Lewis and Scripture, we talk about wonder as a language of the soul, what we lose when we stop paying attention to the natural world, and how slowing down can restore something we desperately need: perspective.

    Seth reminds us of Jesus' invitation to “consider the wildflowers” and offers a simple challenge for a distracted and hurried world:

    Look up.

    Whether you're standing beside a river, walking through the woods, staring at the stars, or simply going about an ordinary day, creation is inviting us to pause, pay attention, and remember the One who made it.

    Follow Seth’s Blog @ http://sethlewis.ie/

    Purchase Seth’s Book Here

    58 min
  3. Ep. 189: Stoking Embers Grant Batson: The Beauty of Making Things That Last | Craftsmanship, Rest & Faith

    Episode 189

    Show notes

    Philippians 4:8

    [8] Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. (ESV)

    In this Stoking Embers episode of The Storied Outdoors, Brad Hill and Bryan Gill reflect on their conversation with Grant Batson, craftsman, pipe maker, guitarist, and fly fisherman. Inspired by Grant’s approach to his work and life, Brad and Bryan explore the relationship between craftsmanship, beauty, rest, and the lessons we learn through failure.

    Growing up in an environment where things were repaired rather than replaced, Grant developed a strong work ethic and an appreciation for making things by hand. But his story also reveals something deeper: the importance of creating things that are not merely useful, but beautiful. In a world increasingly shaped by efficiency, convenience, and disposable products, what do we lose when we stop valuing beauty, quality, and things built to last?

    The conversation turns to our capacity to recognize beauty as a reflection of our Creator. From the architecture of Sarajevo and the craftsmanship of heirloom furniture to the flowers growing in a garden and the fleeting colors of a sunset, Brad and Bryan consider how learning to see beauty can deepen our gratitude, awaken our worship, and help us recognize the inherent value of the people around us. They also explore how we cultivate an eye for what is good through apprenticeship, imitation, and the wisdom of those who have gone before us.

    Grant’s reflections on rest and failure offer another important lesson. When we lose our peace, we hurry—and when we hurry, we often make poor decisions. Whether through pipe making, fly fishing, or simply sitting beside a river with nowhere else to be, we need practices that slow us down and remind us that life is more than a race against the clock. And when we fail, we have an opportunity to learn, grow, and extend grace to ourselves and others.

    Join Brad and Bryan for a thoughtful conversation about recovering the art of making, learning to see beauty, embracing failure, and making room for the kind of rest that helps us pay attention to what matters most.

    The Storied Outdoors explores the stories that shape us and the lessons our adventures teach us about the lives we are meant to live.

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    Aldous Huxley "Time and the Machine"

    45 min
  4. Ep. 188: Grant Batson Pipe Maker & Fly Fishermen

    Episode 188

    Show notes

    Today on The Storied Outdoors, we’re joined by Grant Batson, craftsman, pipe maker, guitar maker, fly fisherman, and founder of Batson Made. Grant has spent his life learning the language of wood, following its grain, respecting its character, and patiently transforming rough pieces of material into objects of beauty and lasting value.

    In a culture increasingly defined by speed, convenience, and disposable things, Grant’s work offers a different way of seeing. His story is one of craftsmanship, patience, and the conviction that making something well matters. We talk about the childhood experiences and mentors that shaped his imagination, the common thread connecting his guitars, furniture, and pipes, and the moment craftsmanship became more than a hobby and began to feel like a calling.

    Grant takes us inside the world of pipe making and shares what working with wood has taught him about patience, failure, and paying attention. We explore what it means to “follow the grain” and how that philosophy might extend beyond the workshop and into the way we live our own lives. We even imagine what it would mean for someone to discover one of his pipes a hundred years from now—and what that object might reveal about the man who made it.

    Our conversation also takes us outdoors, where Grant’s love of fly fishing provides another window into the contemplative life. Along the way, we talk about our mutual friend Chris Hanson, the curious connection between fly fishing and pipe smoking, and why both activities seem to invite us to slow down, pay attention, and be present in a world that rarely encourages either.

    Ultimately, this is a conversation about more than pipes, guitars, wood, or fly fishing. It’s about the stories embedded in the things we make, the adventures that shape us, and the deeper work of becoming the people we were created to be.

    And perhaps the question at the heart of the conversation is this:

    If we spend our lives turning rough blocks of wood into objects of beauty, what does the process of becoming teach us about what God is shaping in all of us?

    1 hr 11 min
  5. Ep. 187 Stoking Embers: OutdoorX4 and a Quail Hunt

    Episode 187

    Show notes

    Bryan and Brad break down their conversation with Jason from OutdoorX4 Magazine.

    Today on The Storied Outdoors, we sit down with Jason Varnedoe, Chief Marketing Officer of OutdoorX4, lifelong fisherman, habitual tinkerer, pilot, mentor, and—perhaps most fittingly—a pathfinder.

    Jason’s story stretches from the coastal marshes and diverse landscapes of South Carolina to the canyon creeks and desert washes of Arizona. Along the way, a lifetime of fishing, camping, flying, tinkering, and exploring has shaped the way he sees both the outdoors and the stories we tell about it. We talk about the places that formed him, his next adventure chasing small streams with a fly rod, and how a serious heart surgery became an unexpected chapter in his own story of finding a way forward.

    Jason also pulls back the curtain on OutdoorX4, an immersive media platform built around the idea that vehicles can be gateways to meaningful outdoor experiences. We explore the explosion of overlanding and the funny reality that much of what is now marketed as “overlanding gear” used to be what we simply called camping. More importantly, we dig into what happens when the gear, the marketing, and the adventure become secondary to the experience itself.

    That leads to a deeper conversation about storytelling and authenticity. Jason shares how OutdoorX4 chooses the stories it tells, how he balances marketing strategy with genuine storytelling, and why he believes people are far more discerning than the internet sometimes gives them credit for. We talk about the loss of community stories, the importance of reclaiming the “real” in our lives, and the ordinary stories—bartering over the price of crickets, earning free coffee by sweeping a parking lot, and the small moments around a campfire—that often become the stories that make us.

    We also explore the power of a fire in the wilderness: how, in the darkness, a distant light can mean something far greater than warmth or cooking. A fire is greater than the sum of its parts. It signals presence. It offers hope. And perhaps that is what good stories do, too.

    Ultimately, this conversation moves beyond adventure and marketing into something much more foundational: community, presence, and the people who shape us. Jason reflects on mentoring the next generation and lands on a simple truth every parent and adventurer should remember—the most important thing you can give a child is your presence.

    It’s a conversation about finding your way, telling better stories, and remembering that the best adventures aren’t always the most spectacular ones. Sometimes they’re the ones that bring us back to what—and who—matters most.

    36 min
  6. Ep. 186: Jason Varnadoe Chief Marketing Officer, OutdoorX4

    Episode 186

    Show notes

    Today on The Storied Outdoors, we sit down with Jason Varnadoe, Chief Marketing Officer of OutdoorX4, lifelong fisherman, habitual tinkerer, pilot, mentor, and—perhaps most fittingly—a pathfinder.

    Jason’s story stretches from the coastal marshes and diverse landscapes of South Carolina to the canyon creeks and desert washes of Arizona. Along the way, a lifetime of fishing, camping, flying, tinkering, and exploring has shaped the way he sees both the outdoors and the stories we tell about it. We talk about the places that formed him, his next adventure chasing small streams with a fly rod, and how a serious heart surgery became an unexpected chapter in his own story of finding a way forward.

    Jason also pulls back the curtain on OutdoorX4, an immersive media platform built around the idea that vehicles can be gateways to meaningful outdoor experiences. We explore the explosion of overlanding and the funny reality that much of what is now marketed as “overlanding gear” used to be what we simply called camping. More importantly, we dig into what happens when the gear, the marketing, and the adventure become secondary to the experience itself.

    That leads to a deeper conversation about storytelling and authenticity. Jason shares how OutdoorX4 chooses the stories it tells, how he balances marketing strategy with genuine storytelling, and why he believes people are far more discerning than the internet sometimes gives them credit for. We talk about the loss of community stories, the importance of reclaiming the “real” in our lives, and the ordinary stories—bartering over the price of crickets, earning free coffee by sweeping a parking lot, and the small moments around a campfire—that often become the stories that make us.

    We also explore the power of a fire in the wilderness: how, in the darkness, a distant light can mean something far greater than warmth or cooking. A fire is greater than the sum of its parts. It signals presence. It offers hope. And perhaps that is what good stories do, too.

    Ultimately, this conversation moves beyond adventure and marketing into something much more foundational: community, presence, and the people who shape us. Jason reflects on mentoring the next generation and lands on a simple truth every parent and adventurer should remember—the most important thing you can give a child is your presence.

    It’s a conversation about finding your way, telling better stories, and remembering that the best adventures aren’t always the most spectacular ones. Sometimes they’re the ones that bring us back to what—and who—matters most.

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    1 hr 19 min
  7. Ep. 185: Stoking Embers: Howard Schaap

    Episode 185

    Show notes

    Bryan and Brad sit down and stoke the embers of thier conversation with Howard Schaap and his Memior Brooding over the Waters.

    Today on The Storied Outdoors, we sit down with writer Howard Schaap, author of Brooding Upon the Waters: A Memoir of Farming, Fishing, and Failure in America’s Lost Landscape. Howard’s writing carries the weight of place—the smell of river water, the ache of family stories, and the long memory of the American landscape.

    Growing up in rural Minnesota during the farm crisis of the 1980s, Howard learned early that the places we inhabit become part of who we are. In this conversation, he reflects on his childhood creek, the farms and small towns that shaped him, and the pull that eventually brought him back to the landscapes he had left behind. We talk about what happens when rural communities are hollowed out, what is lost when we become disconnected from land and tradition, and what it might look like to recover a deeper sense of rootedness.

    Howard also speaks candidly about failure—failed fishing trips, struggling farms, family wounds, and the ways failure can shape our understanding of grace. Drawing on Tom McGuane’s The Longest Silence, he reflects on those long, unproductive stretches on the water and how they can become a picture of the long silences we sometimes experience in our relationship with God.

    From fishing and fly fishing to Wendell Berry, Charles Ingalls, and Little House on the Prairie, the conversation explores the connection between story, landscape, faith, and memory. Howard offers a beautiful vision of what it means to imagine the new heavens and the new earth not in abstract terms, but through the particular places we have loved—the very waters where our fathers fished, the landscapes where our stories unfolded, and even the shores where Christ might meet us with a breakfast of fish.

    At the heart of this conversation is a simple but profound idea: our faith, our stories, and our lives happen somewhere.We are creatures of place, and learning to love the particular places we have been given may be part of learning to see God’s grace more clearly.

    Join us as we sit with Howard Schaap and brood upon the waters—considering failure and grace, fishing and prayer, memory and place, and what it means to hope for a restored creation through the local pictures of the landscapes we know and love.

    53 min
  8. Ep. 184: Howard Schaap Author of Brooding Over the Water

    Episode 184

    Show notes

    Howard Schaap, author of Brooding Over the Water: A Memoir of Farming, Fishing, and Failure in America's Lost Landscape

    Today on The Storied Outdoors, we sit down with writer Howard Schaap, author of Brooding Upon the Waters: A Memoir of Farming, Fishing, and Failure in America’s Lost Landscape. Howard’s writing carries the weight of place—the smell of river water, the ache of family stories, and the long memory of the American landscape.

    Growing up in rural Minnesota during the farm crisis of the 1980s, Howard learned early that the places we inhabit become part of who we are. In this conversation, he reflects on his childhood creek, the farms and small towns that shaped him, and the pull that eventually brought him back to the landscapes he had left behind. We talk about what happens when rural communities are hollowed out, what is lost when we become disconnected from land and tradition, and what it might look like to recover a deeper sense of rootedness.

    Howard also speaks candidly about failure—failed fishing trips, struggling farms, family wounds, and the ways failure can shape our understanding of grace. Drawing on Tom McGuane’s The Longest Silence, he reflects on those long, unproductive stretches on the water and how they can become a picture of the long silences we sometimes experience in our relationship with God.

    From fishing and fly fishing to Wendell Berry, Charles Ingalls, and Little House on the Prairie, the conversation explores the connection between story, landscape, faith, and memory. Howard offers a beautiful vision of what it means to imagine the new heavens and the new earth not in abstract terms, but through the particular places we have loved—the very waters where our fathers fished, the landscapes where our stories unfolded, and even the shores where Christ might meet us with a breakfast of fish.

    At the heart of this conversation is a simple but profound idea: our faith, our stories, and our lives happen somewhere.We are creatures of place, and learning to love the particular places we have been given may be part of learning to see God’s grace more clearly.

    Join us as we sit with Howard Schaap and brood upon the waters—considering failure and grace, fishing and prayer, memory and place, and what it means to hope for a restored creation through the local pictures of the landscapes we know and love.

    1 hr 13 min
  9. Ep 183: A New Era for The Storied Outdoors

    Episode 183

    Show notes

    A New Era for The Storied Outdoors

    At the onset of what would normally be the beginning of season 12, The Storied Outdoors enters into a new era of “the last season.” But don’t fret, we’re not ending, we’re just beginning. Starting with this introduction episode, The Storied Outdoors will begin dropping weekly episodes for the entire year.

    This episode recaps a summer full of adventures from the Hill and Gill families. We also look back at our origin story that took place along the banks of the Toccoa River in the Blue Ridge Mountains in the spring of 2020. We also foreshadow the upcoming guests for the fall. As always, thank you for listening and for following along with us in this journey. The best is yet to come!

    48 min
  10. Ep. 182: Season 11 Stoking Embers and the End of an Era

    Season 11

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    Ep. 182: Season 11 Stoking Embers and the End of an Era

    In this episode of the Storied Outdoors, Brad and Bryan recap their quail hunting adventure at Turkey Creek Outdoors Lodge. Bryan recalls his first quail hunt, and they reflect on several stories of their day with Ben and Al Bracewell. They also look back at season 11 highlights and the guests who joined them this season. In the final segment of this episode, Brad and Bryan say goodbye to an era as the last season of the Storied Outdoors ends. Be sure to tune in for news of what is next for the podcast.

    Email us: thestoriedoutdoors@gmail.com

    1 hr 7 min
  11. Ep. 181 : Quail Hunting in Alabama–The Story of Turkey Creek Outdoors with AL & Ben Bracewell

    Season 11

    Show notes

    Quail Hunting in Alabama: A Conversation with Al & Ben Bracewell of Turkey Creek Outdoors

    In this episode of The Storied Outdoors, we sit down with Al and Ben Bracewell, the father-and-son team behind Turkey Creek Outdoors—a premier hunting lodge located in Eldridge, Alabama. Spanning more than 2,000 acres of diverse terrain, Turkey Creek has become a sought-after destination for those looking for an authentic quail hunting experience in Alabama, along with unforgettable outdoor adventure.

    Built as a family-owned and operated retreat, Turkey Creek Outdoors was created with a clear mission: to offer a place where guests can find rest, connection, and meaningful experiences in the outdoors. Today, the property hosts everything from guided quail hunts and Continental pheasant shoots to sporting clays, corporate retreats, and group gatherings—all set against the quiet beauty of Alabama’s countryside.

    Bryan and Brad had the privilege of experiencing a traditional quail hunt firsthand, and it delivered in every way. But what stood out most began the night before—gathered around a roaring fire pit, swapping stories under the open sky. That evening captured the heart of Turkey Creek: genuine hospitality, unhurried conversation, and the kind of moments that stay with you long after you leave.

    This episode is a continuation of that fireside conversation.

    We hear how Turkey Creek Outdoors grew from hosting sawmill customers into a full-scale destination for hunters, families, and organizations seeking quail hunting in Alabama and beyond. Al and Ben share their story of building something rooted in legacy, faith, and a deep love for people.

    Recorded inside the lodge’s main hall—overlooking a peaceful lake and framed by wide windows and rolling hills—this conversation reflects the setting itself: open, thoughtful, and rich with perspective. It’s more than a hunting story. It’s about fatherhood, stewardship, and creating spaces where people can reconnect with what matters most.

    As the Bracewells put it:
    "We strive to ensure that every visitor leaves feeling refreshed and ready to tackle the challenges of the world."

    From wild coveys rising in the field to quiet moments by the fire, this episode captures the spirit of Turkey Creek Outdoors—an Alabama hunting lodge where adventure and story meet.

    If you’ve ever searched for the best quail hunts in Alabama, or longed for a place where the pace slows and the stories deepen, this conversation is for you.

    Visit https://www.turkeycreekoutdoors.com

    Email us thestoriedoutdoors@gmail.com

    1 hr 29 min
  12. Ep. 180 Stoking Embers: Feathers, Fields, and Frigatebirds and the Posture of Looking up.

    Season 11

    Show notes

    In this reflective episode, Bryan and Brad sit back down after their conversation with Kevin Burrell, author of Considering Sparrows, to linger a little longer in the world of birds, beauty, and attention.

    From the everyday entertainment of backyard bird feeders to the surge of birding during COVID, they explore how these small, winged moments invite us to notice something deeper. Bryan shares how even a simple sighting can offer a glimpse into the Creator’s design, while Brad recalls a memorable duck hunt in the rice fields of Arkansas—rich with species, history, and the echoes of early birders who once hunted as their only means of close observation.

    The conversation drifts offshore as Bryan tells the story of spotting a Magnificent Frigatebird in the Caribbean—a “lifer” moment made possible with a little help from the Merlin app and a downloaded regional guide.

    Along the way, Brad and Bryan reflect on birding as a mindful practice—one that slows us down, pulls us into the present, and gently shifts our focus away from ourselves. Whether it’s spotting birds along the roadside in winter when the trees are bare or giving full attention to a fleeting moment of movement, they consider how this often-overlooked hobby can be both restful and eye-opening.

    They also celebrate the encouraging return of bald eagles to their region—something rarely seen in their younger years, but now a shared joy they get to experience with their children.

    Rooted in their conversation with Kevin, the episode weaves together nature’s metaphors and spiritual insight—from the persistence of a kingfisher to the care God shows even to sparrows—reminding us that time outdoors can lead us not just to observation, but to worship.

    In a world that keeps our eyes down, birding invites us to look up—and in doing so, draws us out of ourselves and back into wonder.

    44 min
  13. Ep. 179: Kevin Burrell: Author of Considering Sparrows

    Show notes

    In this episode of The Storied Outdoors, Bryan and Brad explore the rich connection between birdwatching and the Book of Philippians, inspired by a recent conversation with author Kevin and his beautifully illustrated new book on birds and faith.

    We had a wonderful discussion about backyard bird feeders — complete with mischievous squirrels, bold woodpeckers, and hovering hummingbirds — unfolds into a thoughtful reflection on how observing birds invites us to slow down, pay attention, and rediscover wonder.

    During the COVID-19 pandemic, birding surged in popularity as people searched for meaningful outdoor hobbies. Bryan and Brad reflect on that cultural moment and share their own birdwatching experiences, from spotting winter bald eagles to studying the vibrant detail of pintail drakes and hen mallards.

    These encounters remind them that birding is more than a hobby for retirees; it is a mindful practice that pulls attention away from self and toward the Creator.

    Drawing from themes in Philippians and Kevin’s bird-centered reflections, Bryan and Brad discuss how creation points beyond itself. The persistence of a kingfisher, the care of sparrows, and the elegance of a soaring eagle become living metaphors of provision, humility, endurance, and joy.

    As always, The Storied Outdoors sits somewhere between Lewis and Tolkien and Lewis and Clark — finding clarity in the stories we tell and the adventures that shape us. This episode invites listeners to step outside, lift their eyes, and rediscover worship in the wild.

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    1 hr 13 min
  14. Ep. 178 Stoking Embers: Longbeards and Lost Legacy Essay by Brad Hill

    Season 11

    Show notes

    In this episode, Bryan and Brad return to the fire to stoke the embers of “Maybe Today, Granddad,” rekindling the flame of spring mornings spent chasing longbeards with a century-old shotgun and a heart full of memory.

    They sift through the smoke of missed shots and close calls, turning over the coals of legacy, brotherhood, and belonging. What does it mean to carry a grandfather’s gun into the dark? Can a story be inherited through pursuit rather than proximity?

    With warmth, honesty, and a few hard-earned laughs, they rekindle the fire of conversation, reflecting on turkey hunting, patience, public land lessons, and the quiet ache of stepping into a story you didn’t grow up in but somehow feel invited to continue.

    Pull up a chair. The fire’s still burning.

    59 min
  15. Ep. 177 : Longbeards and Lost Legacy Essay by Brad Hill

    Season 11

    Show notes

    In this reflective episode of The Storied Outdoors, Brad walks into the spring woods carrying more than a shotgun — he carries memory, longing, and the quiet hope of stepping into a story he never inherited. With his grandfather’s century-old gun in hand and the dawn breaking over the Mobile Delta, he recounts a season of near misses, unexpected lessons, and the slow shaping of a woodsman’s heart.

    Through owl calls in the dark, conversations with his brother, and encounters that range from humorous to humbling, this story explores what it means to receive legacy not only through family, but through pursuit. It’s a meditation on patience, belonging, and the sacred work of showing up, whether or not a longbeard ever hits the ground.

    For anyone who has felt the pull of wild places, wondered about the stories that formed them, or sensed that inheritance sometimes arrives from behind rather than ahead, this episode is an invitation to listen for the promise in the dawn.

    28 min
  16. Ep. 176: Stoking Embers With Chase Bowers- Saltwater & Sharks

    Season 11

    Show notes

    Bryan, Brad, and Chase sit down to stoke the embers from Saltwater and Sharks, reflecting on fear, wonder, and faith in the deep. Together they take a deeper look at the stories, Scripture, and experiences behind the essay—exploring how God meets us in chaos and invites us back into the water with trust.

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    53 min
  17. Ep. 175 Saltwater and Sharks: Finding Hope in the Chaotic Deep Essay by Dr. Chase Bowers

    Season 11

    Show notes

    “There is, one knows not what sweet mystery about this sea, whose gently awful stirrings seem to speak of some hidden soul beneath. The same waves wash the moles of the new-built California towns, but yesterday planted by the recentest race of men, and lave the faded but still gorgeous skirts of Asian lands older than Abraham.”

    – Herman Melville, Moby-Dick, Chapter 58

    What do sharks, saltwater, and the sea teach us about fear, wonder, and faith?

    In this wonderfully reflective episode of The Storied Outdoors, Dr. Bowers traces a lifelong relationship with the ocean from childhood awe in the Caribbean, to fear sharpened by real danger, to a hard-won return to wonder.

    Along the way, dolphins dance, sharks surface, reefs shimmer, and Scripture speaks. Drawing on personal stories, biblical imagery, and the ancient human fear of the deep, this episode explores why the sea has always symbolized chaos and why God repeatedly meets His people there.

    From Newport Beach to Grand Cayman, from Jonah to Revelation, this episode wrestles with the tension between beauty and danger, awe and fear, chaos and hope. It’s a meditation on the ocean as both mirror and metaphor: reflecting a broken world groaning for redemption, and pointing us toward the God who still speaks peace over the waters.

    This is a story about getting back in the water—not because the sea is safe, but because God is faithful.

    23 min
  18. Ep. 174: Stoking Embers: A People Business and Excellent Craftsmanship

    Season 11

    Show notes

    Brad and Bryan sit down to reflect on their recent meeting with Saddleback Leather founder, Dave Munson — a man whose business acumen is matched only by his humility, generosity, and gospel-driven imagination. Like a modern-day Matt McPherson, Munson builds excellence not for the sake of product alone, but for the sake of people. His priorities run from employees to customers to orphans and single mothers through Saddleback’s nonprofit arm, Love 41.

    Their conversation wanders the trail of Munson’s fascinating life — from living in tents and working out of a Toyota Tacoma, to navigating cartel-controlled roads, to trusting God in the face of uncertainty. Along the way, Brad and Bryan marvel at the quality and longevity of Saddleback’s Indiana Jones–inspired leather goods, the kind of items built to last a century and inherit a story of their own.

    The episode even detours to Japan, where a colleague shares the gospel with playful clarity, and to the cold southern winter sweeping across the country. But at the heart of the discussion is a simple truth: faith, craftsmanship, and generosity can shape a company into something far more than the sum of its products.

    40 min
  19. Ep 173: Risk, Resilience, and Leather: Dave Munson Owner of Saddleback Leather Co.

    Season 11

    Show notes

    In this episode, Brad and Bryan sit down with leather craftsman and adventurer Dave Munson—founder of Saddleback Leather—to explore the intersection of family, risk, craftsmanship, and faith. Munson’s story is one of unlikely beginnings, from selling bags on eBay during his youth ministry years to building a global leather-goods brand shaped by adventure, hardship, and deep conviction.

    They trace the Munson family’s intentional approach to raising resilient kids—complete with tent living, travel mishaps, calculated risk, and a healthy respect for bravery vs. stupidity. Dave reflects on losing millions, run-ins with cartels, and stolen shipments, yet speaks of character formation and God’s providence with surprising joy.

    Along the way, he makes a compelling case for Christian entrepreneurship that doesn’t wear a label but shines through excellence, generosity, and faithful storytelling. Together they discuss Martin Luther on craftsmanship, what it means to serve customers like actual people, and the surprising ways the gospel shows up—whether in conversations with Toyota executives or in the story of a beloved dog named Blue.

    Rich with humor, vulnerability, travel tales, reflections on parenting and legacy, and a vision for living one’s faith in public, this conversation pushes listeners to see adventure not as escapism but as discipleship, and craftsmanship not as branding but as service.

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    1 hr 31 min
  20. Ep. 172: Stoking Embers "The Lion, The Huntsman, and Pursuit of Story

    Season 11

    Show notes

    In this episode of Stoking Embers, Bryan and Brad revisit their recent conversation with Tyler Sharp, Editor-in-Chief and Owner of Modern Huntsman. Recorded during Thanksgiving week 2025, a few days after the original interview, the pause gave time for the conversation to marinate, and just like spaghetti it was better after it sat a while and the ideas, stories, and vision Tyler brought to the table genuinely developed and jumped out.

    They unpack the tension and overlap between conservation and the roles of hunters and anglers, wrestling with what it means to “do good” while stewarding the very landscapes, waters, and wildlife we depend on. The discussion widens to explore the creative world as well: the resurgence of print, the future of storytelling, and the surprising influence of AI on culture, creativity, and even the environment through massive data infrastructure.

    Throughout the conversation, Bryan and Brad recognize a growing alignment between Modern Huntsman and The Storied Outdoors—two efforts committed to elevating the narrative of outdoor pursuit, craftsmanship, and stewardship.

    Finally, they revisit one of the standout moments from Tyler’s interview: an unforgettable encounter with an African lion which was easily one of the all-time great campfire stories ever shared on the show.

    Whether you’re a creative, conservationist, hunter, angler, or simply captivated by adventure and good storytelling, this episode offers a thoughtful look at why these pursuits matter and how they shape us.

    42 min