The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

Erik Bernhardsson is the Co-Founder and CEO of Modal, the AI infrastructure platform for training models, running inference and powering AI agents. Modal has raised over $1.2 billion, including a recent $750 million Series D led by Accel at a $15.75BN valuation. The company has surpassed $1BN in ARR, growing more than 15x year-on-year. Previously, Erik built Spotify's original music recommendation system.

AGENDA:

05:30 - Why wait until your mid-30s to start a company?

06:40 - Is founding a startup really like "eating glass"?

08:00 - How to Raise $1BN with No Pitch Deck

08:45 - The danger of raising too much venture capital

09:40 - How much cash is Modal burning on GPUs?

10:30 - Do early-stage startups actually have moats?

13:30 - Who wins the inference market in the next 5 years?

15:30 - Are 90% software gross margins dead in AI?

17:45 - The "open-air drug market" for GPUs

21:30 - Will GPU hardware prices ever collapse?

22:15 - Are we about to overbuild data centers?

23:45 - Can custom silicon dethrone NVIDIA's monopoly?

24:30 - Is CUDA really the moat everyone claims it is?

25:20 - Are Neo Cloud providers partners or mortal enemies?

26:35 - Nebius vs. CoreWeave: who built the better business?

27:25 - Open-source vs. frontier models: which takes the lead?

28:20 - Can Europe ever build a competitive frontier model?

30:20 - The bull case for a $100B verticalized model company

37:15 - Modal's biggest resource allocation mistake

38:00 - Has open-source LLM inference already peaked?

41:30 - The real limits of post-training and RL

44:20 - How much does Modal spend every month on coding agents?

45:50 - The massive gold rush in selling data environments to labs

47:20 - Should enterprises own their own intelligence?

49:50 - Is model routing a defensible standalone business?

53:20 - $20M+ compensation packages for exceptional new grads

54:20 - The #1 portfolio company Erik would bet on

55:10 - What Erik changed his mind on most this year

David Tisch is the Founder of Box Group, one of the best seed funds of the last decade with early investments in Cursor, Baseten and Clay to name a few. Today the fund invests from two funds, a $275M seed fund and a $275M opportunity fund.

AGENDA:

10:40 Why we have less dilution now than ever before 12:50 Why I don't want to compete with the best VCs, and why it's a trap 16:15 What concentrated funds know but do not admit to 17:25 Why multiple tranched rounds can be good for founders 18:45 Why the Lean Startup was a total fake 28:55 Why LPs are frustrated by a market that we can't change 31:50 What is the single best-returning investment in the history of BoxGroup? 33:15 Why fund returners are not always obvious in the early years 40:05 Why funding consumer brands at seed no longer makes sense for venture 42:00 Rogo, the now $2B company, got passed on by 39 out of 40 investors 45:40 Why the marketing message that pro rata is not a right is BS 1:01:50 Why we do not allow negativity in the investment decision-making process 1:03:00 The true magic of early-stage venture capital 1:04:35 Why YC has the best business model in all of venture

AGENDA:

04:00 Anthropic Files S-1 Ahead of $2TRN IPO 14:50 Microsoft Offers Buyouts to 60,000 Employees 20:45 Zuckerberg Taps Equity Markets for $95 Billion AI Spending Spree 23:00 DeepSeek Raises $15 Billion as Chinese AI Faces US Backlash 34:45 OpenAI and Wiz Uncover Decade-Old Security Flaws 37:05 Instinct's Rumoured $30 Billion Valuation Divides the Panel 45:30 Invest Committee: Put 20% of the Fund Into OpenAI at $1.25 Trillion 49:40 Palmer Luckey's War Dog Startup Hits $1.5 Billion Valuation 55:00 Zuckerberg Threatens California Exit Over Billionaire Tax

Satya Nadella is the CEO of Microsoft and one of the greatest CEOs of our time. Satya has been at the company for an astonishing 34 years. When he joined, Microsoft had a market cap of $23.5BN. 22 years later, the company was worth $300BN. At this point, Satya took the reins as CEO. Under his leadership, he has taken it from $300BN to $3.9TRN.

AGENDA:

03:08 Should We Assume Every AI Model Is Compromised? 04:13 How Do We Stop AI Agents From Causing Harm? 06:15 Can We Trust an AI Model's Chain of Thought? 07:05 Is China's Lead in Open-Source AI a Safety Risk? 08:28 Will Open or Closed Models Win the Next Two Years? 10:08 Why Should Every Company Own Its Intelligence? 12:12 Will Every Company Become AI Native? 13:22 Are We Entering an AI Implementation Economy? 15:10 Do You Need to Own the Entire AI Stack to Win? 16:49 Can the World Support $100 Billion AI Training Runs? 18:34 Can AI Radically Accelerate Global Economic Growth? 19:39 Will AI Transform Sales, Finance and Marketing Like Coding?

Quickfire round

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What have you changed your mind on most in the last 12 months?

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What looks crazy today but will be incredibly common in 5 years?

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What's the exercise routine given the travel schedule?

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Favorite cheat meal on a rest day?

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What are you most excited for in the next 10 years?

AGENDA:

05:00 Will we run out of energy? 19:00 Will specialised chips threaten NVIDIA's dominance? 26:00 Can we trust AI agents more than humans? 31:00 Will data companies become commodities? 36:00 What comes after transformers? 41:00 Are software investors f****** in a world of infra and compute? 52:00 How big will the inference market be in 10 years? 53:00 Could robotics be 100x bigger than coding agents? 59:00 Why are coding agents the most overrated AI investment?

AGENDA:

04:20 Billion-Dollar Bets or Nothing: Why VCs Are Rejecting Fast-Growing Startups 13:20 CoreWeave Sell-Off Sparks Fears of Cracks in AI Boom 18:50 Anthropic's IPO Valuation Could Fall From $2 TRN to $1.5 TRN 32:10 Modal Raises $750M at a $15.75B Valuation as Inference Booms 35:50 Town at $1B, Anduril at $90B: Have Startup Valuations Lost Touch? 42:15 Berkshire Hathaway Doubles Down on Bending Spoons 45:05 37signals' Profit Machine Challenges the Venture Capital Model 49:20 General Atlantic Eyes an IPO; Harvard's Endowment Hits $68B 54:15 Elon's Flying Roadster and $10B SpaceX Share Giveaway

Sameer Dholakia is a Partner @ Bessemer, the first that has just raised $5.75BN across a $1.75BN seed fund and $4BN growth fund. Sameer has led investments into the likes of Anthropic, Fireworks and Legora to name a few. Prior to venture, Sameer was the CEO of SendGrid, taking it from $30M in ARR to over $200M.

AGENDA:

04:55 Why This Is a Supercycle Like Never Before 07:40 Why We Backed Anthropic to Compete With the Hyperscalers 10:05 Why Anthropic Was One of Bessemer's Most Contentious Deals 11:05 Why Open Models Don't Destroy the Market for Closed Models 16:45 Does Price Matter in AI—and Which Metric Really Determines Value? 19:45 How Much Should Consumer Businesses Be Discounted for Their Revenue Quality? 20:20 Why Today's Gross Margins Matter Less Than You Think 23:00 Competition Hasn't Changed—but the Capital Behind It Has 24:00 Why Capital Is a Moat Today 25:55 Is "Triple, Triple, Double, Double" Dead? 28:00 Can You Still Succeed With a Small Seed Fund? 29:45 Who Wins and Who Loses in the Future of Venture Capital? 32:15 Why Founders Shouldn't Hate Being an "Option Bet" 34:35 Why Signalling Risk Doesn't Worry Me 51:55 Why Companies Will Stay Private Longer—and Why the IPO Window Could Reopen by 2028 56:00 How Should Retail Investors Participate in Venture Capital? 57:25 How Fireworks Could Become a $250 Billion Business 01:02:35 Why Bessemer Is Confident It Can Deliver 5x Returns on $5.75 Billion

Harrison Chase is the co-founder and CEO of LangChain, which helps developers build, test and deploy AI agents. Backed by Sequoia Capital, Benchmark and IVP, LangChain has announced approximately $160 million in funding with the last round at a $1.25BN valuation. The company works with 35% of the Fortune 500, has surpassed one billion open-source downloads and processes over one billion events daily through LangSmith.

AGENDA:

04:10 Why Is It Still So Hard to Build AI Agents? 08:50 Will the Model Labs Eat the Agent Stack? 16:25 Is Model Routing a Real Business or a Commodity? 25:45 Why Has No One Solved AI Memory? 35:45 Why Are AI Bills Exploding as Tokens Get Cheaper? 43:25 Should Companies Be Afraid of Chinese AI Models? 46:20 Where Would Harrison Not Be Investing Today? 53:05 Should Founders Take a Discount for Benchmark and Sequoia? 57:35 OpenAI at $1.5T or Anthropic at $2T: Which Would You Buy?

AGENDA:

04:00 Valar Atomics Sues Seed Investor Day One Ventures Over Pro Rata 17:00 Meta Returns to the AI Frontier With Muse Wonder 20:00 NVIDIA Eyes $30B Reflection Deal as Amazon Circles Decart 26:00 Jev Raises $870M at a $7.5B Valuation—Weeks After Launch 31:00 42 New Decacorns: The AI Boom Overtakes 2021's Record 36:00 Isomorphic Labs Eyes $50B Valuation in New Funding Talks 46:00 Anthropic Slashes Haiku Prices by 90% as AI Price War Intensifies 52:00 Bending Spoons Slashes Airtable's Team: What Do Founders Owe Employees? 57:00 Bumble to Go Private in $1.3B Deal: Can AI Transform Dating? 01:01:00 The SaaSpocalypse Deepens: Why $500M ARR May No Longer Be Enough 01:06:00 Flock Safety Cuts 270 Jobs Amid Privacy and Security Backlash

Mike Cannon-Brookes is the Co-Founder and CEO of Atlassian, the company behind Jira, Confluence, Trello and Loom. Atlassian generated $6.5BN in ARR in 2026, and serves more than 350,000 customers, including over 85% of the Fortune 500. Today, Mike is leading its expansion into enterprise AI through Rovo and the Teamwork Graph, connecting company knowledge with AI agents.

AGENDA:

03:00 Do AI Agents Turn Traditional Software Into Just Databases? 16:00 Will Enterprises Ever Trust Chinese AI Models? 20:00 Is Building Your Own AI Model a Losing Bet? 24:00 Can AI Startups Survive When They Finally Have to Care About Costs? 30:00 What Happens When AI Gets Cheaper Than Anyone Expects? 35:00 Is Company Context the Real Moat in Enterprise AI? 41:00 What Happens When OpenAI and Anthropic Come for Your Customers? 44:00 Why Are Young Founders Cashing Out More Than Ever? 49:00 What Does Nobody Tell You About Getting Rich?

Max Freeman is SVP of Sales at Ramp. He joined the company as its first sales hire. By 2025, he was leading more than 300 salespeople, helping build Ramp's sales organisation from the ground up. Ramp's latest reported revenue exceeds $1.7BN, with a valuation of over $40BN.

AGENDA:

00:00 Inside Ramp's Sales Playbook 05:00 How Do You Find Exceptional Sellers—and Why Bankers Make the Best? 18:00 How Do You Build an Outbound Machine That Scales Beyond Your SDR Team? 24:00 How Do You Shorten Sales Cycles Without Slashing Your Price? 27:00 How Should You Pay Your First Reps—and Incentivise New Products? 34:00 How Do You Onboard Reps Who Can Actually Sell? 40:00 How High Should Quotas Be—and How Long Should Reps Get to Ramp? 44:00 How Do You Drive Customer Expansion and Forecast Revenue Accurately? 54:00 How Do You Grow as a Sales Leader Without Taking Over Every Important Deal?

Joinin the trio today we have Dev Ittycheria, CEO @ MongoDB.

AGENDA:

04:00 OpenAI Nears $70B Run Rate—Anthropic's Lead Under Threat 12:00 Factory vs Cognition: Silicon Valley's Talent War Turns Ugly 23:00 Vinod Khosla Blasts His Own Portfolio Company 25:00 Reflection Launches Beam: America Strikes Back in Open-Source AI 34:00 ElevenLabs Doubles Its Valuation to $22B 37:00 Salesforce Buys Listen Labs for $2B—Sequoia Cashes In 46:00 Vercel Hits $600M ARR as Agents Drive Half Its New Business 55:00 Former Groq Engineers Sue Over Nvidia's $17B Deal 01:01:00 Meta's Muse Steals the Show as OpenAI's Dots Underwhelms 01:05:00 Oura Pulls Its IPO Despite 74% Growth—A Warning for VC

Venky Ganesan is a Partner at Menlo Ventures, whose portfolio includes Anthropic, Lovable, Legora and Higgsfield, alongside earlier hits Uber and Roku. Venky's own investment track record includes Palo Alto Networks, Upwork, Poshmark and Rover. He is a three-time Forbes Midas List investor and former Chair of the National Venture Capital Association.

AGENDA:

07:00 Can You Still Do Seed Without a $1 Billion Fund? 11:00 How Much of AI's Revenue Growth Is Actually Real? 19:00 When Is "Overpaying" the Smartest Investment You Can Make? 25:00 Does Ownership Still Matter in a World of Trillion-Dollar Outcomes? 31:00 Is "Big Tech Will Buy Us" a Dangerous Investment Thesis? 36:00 Why Invest in Venture When You Can Just Buy the Magnificent Seven? 45:00 When Should You Sell a 40x Winner—and When Should You Double Down? 54:00 Can a $50 Million Fund Still Compete With the Venture Giants? 58:00 Quickfire: Is Benchmark Harder to Beat Than Sequoia?

Chase Lochmiller is the Co-founder and CEO of Crusoe. Crusoe builds and powers the data centres that companies use to train and run AI. It has raised approximately $6.4 billion in equity, including its latest $3.9 billion Series F at a $30.9 billion valuation. Its backers include NVIDIA, Founders Fund, Gavin Baker's Atreides Management, Mubadala Capital and Valor Equity Partners.

AGENDA:

04:40 What Does Climbing Everest Teach You About Building a Company? 17:40 What's Really Stopping Us From Building Enough AI Data Centres? 25:50 Are Data Centres Really Driving Up Your Energy Bills? 28:05 Will Half of Planned AI Data Centres Never Get Built? 32:10 How Quickly Can a GPU Pay for Itself? 38:35 Will Your GPUs Become Obsolete Before You've Paid Them Off? 44:20 What Does It Take to Produce the Cheapest Intelligence? 49:50 Will Companies Building Their Own Models Eat Into OpenAI's Business? 51:55 Can You Build a $30B Company and Still Be a Great Dad?

AGENDA:

00:00 Highlights: Jack Altman Joins The Trio 05:00 Anthropic's S-1 Leaks: $8B Operating Loss and $518B in Compute Commitments 10:00 Instinct Raises $1B at a $10B Valuation to Take On Meta 25:00 AMD Buys Fei-Fei Li's World Labs for $8.2B 39:00 Meta Poaches MongoDB's CEO as Shares Plunge 20% 43:00 AI Startup Seeks $10B Valuation Just One Week After Seed 47:00 Modal Hits $15B Valuation as Baseten Eyes $26B 54:00 OpenAI Reopens Its $200 Plan—and Halves What You Get 57:00 Oura Pulls IPO After Targeting a $16B Valuation 01:03:00 Nubank Eyes $8–12B Monzo Takeover 01:08:00 Bessemer Raises $5.75B as NFX Switches to Its Own Capital 01:14:00 Anthropic Founders Move to Lock In 50.1% Voting Control

Alex Mashrabov is the Founder and CEO of Higgsfield, the third fastest scaling company to $1BN in ARR behind OpenAI and Anthropic. Reports suggest their latest funding round could place an $8BN valuation on the company. Prior to Higgsfield, Alex sold his prior company to Snap Inc for $166M. Alex was a competitive programmer as a kid, reaching third best in the world.

AGENDA:

00:00 The Programming Prodigy Who Sold to Snap for $166M 09:00 Burning $10M: The Pivot That Saved Higgsfield 12:00 A $1B Revenue Run Rate in 18 Months; How Real Is It? 16:00 Will OpenAI and Google Wipe Out $20 AI Subscriptions? 21:00 Are AI Labs Gaming the Benchmarks? 28:00 Spending $4M a Month on AI; Genius or Insanity? 36:00 Are AI Moats Bullshit? The Great "Wrapper" Debate 43:00 One Full Day With His Son in Three Months: The Cost of Ambition 54:00 Quickfire: Is Snap Broken—and Will HubSpot Survive AI? 01:02:00 $10B in the Next 12 Months? Alex's Audacious Growth Bet

Parag Agrawal is the Co-Founder and CEO of Parallel, building web search infrastructure for AI agents. Parallel has announced $230M in funding from Sequoia, Khosla, and First Round Capital. Previously, he was CEO of Twitter, succeeding Jack Dorsey after serving as CTO and becoming the company's first Distinguished Engineer.

AGENDA:

03:00 What Breaks When Agents Search the Web 1,000x More? 07:00 Speed, Cost or Accuracy: What Do Agents Really Need? 13:00 Will Tiny Models Catch Today's Most Powerful AI? 16:00 Is Model Routing a Commodity? 21:00 Is Amazon Making a Mistake by Blocking AI Agents? 23:00 Does the Ads Business Model Die in a World of Agents? 27:00 Can You Pay Publishers Without Killing Your Margins? 33:00 Why Parag Wants a Race to the Bottom on Price 43:00 What Stops Your AI Agent Breaking the Rules to Get Results? 45:00 Why AI Hacks Should Embarrass the Labs 52:00 What Parag Saw Working With Elon Musk

AGENDA:

04:35 Anthropic's $2 Trillion IPO Delayed. Cracks in the AI Boom? 10:30 OpenAI Faces $278 Billion Cash Burn. Out of Money by 2028? 12:55 Meta's Muse Hits No. 1. ChatGPT Finally Has a Rival? 17:05 Amazon Blocks AI Shopping Agents. Shopify Welcomes Them. 24:10 ChatGPT Inventor Launches Jev. Vercel's Fastest Launch Ever. 34:15 A $40 Million Seed Round. Is Traditional Seed Investing Dead? 39:00 Menlo Sounds the AI Bubble Alarm. Harry Calls BS. 54:00 Factory Triples Its Valuation to $5 Billion. Coding Is the Mother Lode. 1:00:20 Legora Hits $200 Million ARR. Is $11 Billion Too Rich? 1:03:50 Crusoe's $3.9 Billion Round. Is the Data Centre Trade Overheating? 1:08:55 Keith Rabois vs Airwallex. Fintech's Feud Escalates. 1:16:40 Sydney Sweeney for Airwallex? Lemkin's Wild PR Plan.

Daniel Dines is one of the greatest European founders of the last decade. As the Co-Founder of UiPath, he has scaled the business to a market cap high of $ 44BN in 2021, with the company now generating $1.72BN in revenue, growing 15% year-on-year. The company raised $2BN before its IPO, backed by Sequoia, Accel, CapitalG, Coatue and Kleiner Perkins.

AGENDA:

05:00 Why Dario is Wrong About Millions of AI Einsteins? 13:00 Is AI Safety Becoming an Excuse to Kill Open Source? 21:00 Does UiPath Really Need 4,000 Employees? 28:00 Would You Help Train the AI That Could Replace You? 32:00 What Percent of Salary Spend Does Daniel Spend on Inference? 34:00 Can You Really Vibe Code Your Way Out of Paying for Software? 37:00 Why Would Anyone Take Their Company Public Today? 39:00 Could an OpenAI–Anthropic Duopoly Break Nvidia's Business? 45:00 Will AI Models Capture the Value—or Will the Apps? 49:00 Is Fireworks Still Undervalued at $15 Billion? 56:00 Has Europe Already Lost—and Should Founders Leave? 1:03:00 What Could Kill UiPath—and How Is AI Changing the CEO's Job? 1:06:00 60 Supplements a Day: How Far Would You Go to Live Longer?

Thomas Sohmers is the co-founder and chairman of Positron AI, building chips to make running AI dramatically cheaper and more energy-efficient. https://www.positron.ai/aboutThe company recently announced an $875 million Series C at a $5 billion valuation, backed by investors including Gavin Baker's Atreides Management, NEA, Valor Equity Partners and Netscape co-founder Jim Clark.

AGENDA:

04:30 Why Does AI Inference Need Different Hardware from Training?

10:25 What Is Nobody Telling You About AI's Token Economics?

13:10 Should We Really Slow Down the AI Frontier?

16:55 What Happens If America Slows Down—and China Doesn't?

19:30 Should We Restrict China's Access to AI Chips?

20:15 Why Aren't Zuckerberg and Jensen Backing an AI Slowdown?

21:25 Are We Being Misled About Data Centers?

23:25 Can the West Beat China While Drowning in Regulation?

26:20 How Many Planned Data Centers Will Actually Get Built?

27:15 Data Centers in Space: Real Opportunity or Elon Hype?

28:10 Is Energy AI's Biggest Bottleneck?

29:55 Could the Debt Boom Derail AI?

31:25 What Is KV Caching—and Why Does It Change AI Economics?

35:25 Does Compressing AI's Memory Make It Less Intelligent?

41:05 How Do We Solve AI's Exploding Memory Demands?

43:45 Will Every Company Own Its Own AI Model?

47:10 Why Bet on Ever-Bigger Models?

48:20 If We Already Have AGI, What Comes Next?

53:25 What Happens When Every AI Lab Builds Its Own Chips?

57:30 If DeepSeek Can Slash Costs with Software, Why Build New Hardware?

59:50 How Cheap Will AI Tokens Be by 2028?

1:03:15 What Would Be the First Warning Sign of an AI Bust?

1:03:55 Could Open Models Break OpenAI and Anthropic's Growth?

1:05:55 Could Mercor and Surge Become $200 Billion Companies?