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Mike Murphy spent 40 years as a Republican strategist, running campaigns for John McCain, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney and Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Days before the 2026 midterms, he joins the show to explain what will happen and why Trump should be scared. Murphy breaks down the midterm predictions everyone is watching: whether Democrats can take the House and the Senate, why Kansas, Alaska, Texas and Michigan could surprise people, and what will happen with the DOJ in Alaska.

Plus some insider intel on Trump's first term and why Democrats should skip impeachment and go after corruption instead.

CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
00:18 Blue wave or blue tsunami?
01:40 Why the Senate is the tsunami test
04:06 The perfect storm: Trump’s lost economic ace
06:57 Candidate luck: Kansas, Alaska, Maine, Michigan, Texas
08:57 Trump 2.0 has no grownups
12:41 The DOJ, Alaska, and certification
17:35 How Trump won the 2016 primary
24:00 Should Democrats impeach?
27:26 Trump as a lame duck
30:38 Global populism and 2028
37:14 Who actually runs the parties?
41:30 Super PACs and “stupid money”
44:56 The DSA and the LA mayor’s race
48:38 Inequality and the billionaire tax
54:34 The data center war
56:34 EVs, China, and America’s auto future
1:08:00 Why America keeps swinging back and forth
1:11:20 The One Book To Pickup Now

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At 40, Deb Haaland was a single mom raising her daughter on WIC, Medicaid, and food stamps, and she once broke down in tears when she was told she didn’t qualify for emergency SNAP. Now, days before Election Day, she joins the show to explain why that experience shapes how she’d govern New Mexico.

With early voting underway in the New Mexico governor race, Haaland lays out her closing argument: governors are the first line of defense against the Medicaid cuts and SNAP cuts coming from H.R. 1, the “One Big Beautiful Bill.”

She explains her plan for a day-one data center moratorium, with guardrails on water, clean energy, local hiring, and no NDAs. She also makes the case for protecting New Mexico’s first-in-the-nation universal childcare program.

Learn more at http://debhaaland.com

00:00 Intro
00:38 Back to school at 40
02:07 Closing argument: the first line of defense
03:23 Medicaid and SNAP cuts from the “Big Beautiful Bill”
05:43 Gas prices in an oil state
08:16 Should New Mexico suspend the gas tax?
10:05 WIC, Medicaid, food stamps: her single-mom story
16:31 “Two jobs and a GoFundMe”
17:39 Trades, apprenticeships, and 58,000 homes
21:44 Public lands, Chaco, and lawsuits
24:27 The five bills Trump signed
26:30 The day-one data center moratorium
31:06 The Biden record
34:37 Water and the Colorado River
37:41 ICE and immigration
42:12 Public safety, fentanyl, and recovery
46:06 Following Lujan Grisham
51:13 Get out the vote

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Oscar-winning documentarian, Alex Gibney joins the show to discuss Musk his newest investigation into the world's most powerful man, and possibly America’s number one grifter, Elon Musk.

Gibney shares his expertise on Musk’s early days in Silicon Valley, how he has been reliant on the US government he now hates for most of his wealth, and why the world’s richest man's biggest export is overpromising and underdelivering.

They detail Musk’s exploits at Tesla, SpaceX, and DOGE and why he might be the man we should be most afraid of.

00:00 How To Capture Elon Musk When He Won't Be Part Of Your Film
9:59 Failing Upward and Who Really Founded Tesla
15:16 Government To The Rescue
20:03 The World’s Greatest Salesman: Autopilot issues, Battery Swaps and Tax Credits
28:22 Musk’s AI Origin Story
35:35 How COVID Changed Musk Forever
41:10 Buying Twitter: From Free Speech to Propaganda Machine
51:56 DOGE: Trump, the Chainsaw and the Data Grab
1:01:22 Musk’s Family Dynamics
1:13:27 The Midterms and Power Without Purpose

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Axios co-founder and CEO Jim VandeHei joins the show to talk through how AI is changing the media industry, why he rejects the simple solutions floated by today’s politicians and how he’d handle saving legacy media institutions.

He then shares his philosophy on how to manage one’s time and business effectively as articulated in his new book book Simplify: Do 50 Percent More with 50 Percent Less co-written with his Axios co-founders, Mike Allen & Roy Schwartz

00:00 An Era As Significant As The Great Depression
2:46 Trust Loss In Institutions
6:09 The Challenge Of Breaking News In An AI World
11:42 How To Fix Business Leaders Selling Out
16:57 How Algorithms Shape Our Thinking
19:22 The Competing Incentives Between LLMs & Algorithms
22:00 Can We Shut Down AI Even If We Wanted To
25:06 How Axios Rejects The AI Binary
35:05 The Future Of Work
39:32 Working With OpenAi & Local News
43:36 Legacy Media vs. Digital Journalists
48:42 You Don't Have To Do It - An Operating Manual For Life
55:35 Our Brains & Businesses Need To Adapt To Technology’s Influence
1:01:16 How To Be An Effective Manager & Employee in 2026
1:04:39 The One Trick To Being An Effective Communicator
1:09:27 How to Fix CNN & Cable News

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Bestselling author Michael Lewis (Moneyball, The Big Short, The Blind Side) joins the show to talk about his new book, Blockers: Rebels in the Deep State, and what he found reporting on the Trump administration's war against federal civil servants.

Lewis often writes about overlooked people inside massive, misunderstood systems, from Wall Street to baseball to government scientists. In his newest work, he explains how Elon Musk's DOGE actually operated inside agencies like the IRS and NIH, why career civil servants became targets, and what happens when the trust in our government finally collapses.

Lewis's new book Blockers: Rebels in the Deep State is out now.

00:00 Opening
00:25 Talking To Bannon, Kirk And Understanding Your Enemies
7:24 Which Of Michael Lewis’s Subjects Was Most Pissed At Him
10:35 How Michael Lewis Decides On His Subjects
18:07 Who Can Tell The Story of Trump’s Second Term
24:42 The Big Question Lewis Asked Himself Before Writing Blockers
30:03 Elon Musk, DOGE & The Origin Of The Term “Blockers”
36:23 What The Hell is The US Institute of Peace?
43:22 Government Is Moneyball All Over The Place
47:45 How Trump Tries To Weaponize Data Against Undocumented Workers
54:33 Better Information Leads To Societal Progress
1:00:06 The Immigrant Who Changed How We Fight Fires vs. The Trump Chaos Machine
1:17:46 Trump vs. The NIH: Who Killed The Scientist Curing Our Diseases?
1:25:09 How People Really Deal With RFK Jr.
1:29:31 The Backdoor That DOGE Used to Fire Millions
1:34: 36 Trump is A Trust Destroying Machine & Where Trump Goes Next
1:38:16 How Permanent Is Trump’s Harm To Government?
1:45:58 How Reagan Ruined America’s Covid Response & Helped Trump Weaponize Grievance
1:51:15 A Sign Of Hope From A Former DOGE Employee

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Governor Newsom begins by sharing how his visit with Bryan Stevenson, civil rights attorney, & founder of the Equal Justice Initiative inspired recent legislation.

Live from the Legacy Museum and the National Memorial for Peace and Justice in Montgomery Alabama, Stevenson joins the podcast to discuss the politics of fear and anger and why America never reckoned with the narrative that justified slavery.

He shares how the Supreme Court might decide Brown v. Board of Education today, what the gutting of the Voting Rights Act means for Black political power, and why DEI efforts fell apart.

They then cover reparations, censorship, mass incarceration and America’s legacy when it comes to the death penalty before finally ending with a message of hope for anyone exhausted by this political moment.

00:00 A Conversation That Inspired A Bill Signing
1:10 The Politics Of Fear And Anger
4:03 Slavery's Real Evil Was the Narrative
6:26 How Narratives Change
8:20 Struggling With American Identity
13:20 Why Build a National Memory & Legacy Museum
17:35 Why The Shelby County Decision Changed Everything
25:28 Why We've Gone Backwards
31:08 How DEI Caused Resentment
37:10 What Reparations Really Means
46:30 Why Am I Responsible For Previous Generations’ Suffering?
51:01 Rewriting History & The Montgomery Bus Boycott
59:23 Could Brown v. Board Be Won Today?
1:04:45 Rev. James Lawson: Do Hard Things
1:12:17 Counter Narratives & Censorship
1:17:54 Mass Incarceration and the Death Penalty
1:35:30 Should California Commute Its Death Row?
1:39:50 What Do You Say to Victims' Families?
1:45:38 Is There Any Reason For Hope?

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Newsmax founder and CEO Chris Ruddy joins the show to discuss how he built a conservative media empire, including the story of how he first met Donald Trump. He then gets into his relationship with the Clintons, California political history, education reform, and conservative talk radio's influence on the country.

00:00 Intro

00:45 The Legacy of California Governors

4:44 Reagan, Republicans & Immigration

7:00 The Crazy Way Ruddy Met Trump

10:30 Liberal Origins Before Building A Conservative Media Empire

18:04 How To Improve Public Education

26:30 Conservative Radio’s Influence On This President

30:18 The Evolution of Ruddy & The Clintons

33:47 Media Consolidation & The Fight Against Brendan Carr & The FCC

45:00 Tech Mergers, Paramount & The Hollywood System

48:35 Newsmax vs. Fox News

51:10 The 2020 Election

54:40 Political Polarization & The 2024 Election

59:22 How Democrats React If They Win Back The House

1:04:57 The Future of Cable & Artificial Intelligence

1:10:02 Should Democrats Appear On Conservative Media

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A few months ago, we sat down with two of the leading voices warning about the risks of runaway AI Tristan Harris & Aza Raskin.

We're re-airing that conversation now because we are at a critical moment in how we deal with AI.

Researchers are quitting. CEOs are begging to be regulated. Yet there's still no comprehensive federal law requiring AI companies to report dangerous incidents when they happen.

So we're taking action.

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We're live on the road in Montgomery, Alabama!

Governor Newsom is joined by Montgomery Mayor Steven Reed for a conversation on the economy, protecting our civil rights, and Alabama’s living history. Plus, BBQ vs. Tacos and how to find hope even as our democracy remains under attack.

00:00 Why Montgomery Matters

4:37 Protecting Our Democracy & Rebuilding Our Economy

13:41 How To Find Courage Amongst The Sellouts

21:23 Montgomery’s Living History As A Lesson For The Country

24:45 Writing A Memoir And The Search for Authenticity

29:35 How To Survive Difficult Moments

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Crypto skeptic, filmmaker, and author Ben McKenzie joins the show for a deep dive into the world of cryptocurrency. From Bitcoin and Sam Bankman-Fried to Donald Trump’s recent embrace of crypto for his corruption efforts, Ben Mckenzie explains why he is and remains skeptical of cryptocurrency. He then considers whether there’s any hope for crypto regulation and whether this Congress is capable of doing it.

Ben’s documentary “Everyone is Lying to You for Money” is available to stream now through a collaboration with Eventive, a ticketing and streaming platform with a mission to make film festivals and independent film accessible.

00:00 Intro
00:17 A Big Day For Bitcoin
3:28 Why Ben Doesn’t Buy Crypto
8:00 The Question Sam Bankman-Fried Wouldn’t Answer
12:08 Trust The Dollar Or Trust The Code
14:20 Crypto 101
18:00 The Epstein Connection
22:10 El Salvador’s Crypto Experiment
27:02 Why Everyone Is Now Into Crypto
32:30 The Men Who Can’t Stop Losing With Crypto
41:34 How Should We Be Regulating Crypto?
47:45 Wall Street’s Embrace Of Crypto
50:10 Trump’s Crypto Conversion, World Liberty Financial & Criminal Activity
58:55 Regulation Instead of Elimination
1:02:10 Will Studios Support An Anti-Crypto Film?

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It's our first on the ground episode live from East Lansing, MI with Governor Gretchen Whitmer!

What can Democrats can learn from the recent results in Michigan?

There may be no one better to weigh in on the future of the Democratic Party and what they're seeing on the ground than Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. The termed out Governor is not only contemplating her own future, but the future of her party and the country.

That's why, in the middle of campaigning for Democrats up and down the ballot, Governor Newsom sat down in East Lansing to compare notes on winning a state that voted for Donald Trump, the rise of the DSA, leading their respective states, and the road to 2028.

00:00 Live From Michigan!
1:02 Fix The Damn Roads (With Marijuana)
7:44 “My State Voted For Donald Trump Again”
13:24 Two Termed Out Governors Grading Their Terms
25:18: What's It Like Being Vetted for Vice President...
33:20 ...And What's Next For Big Gretch
37:17 Democrats Don’t Have Time To Take A Beat
42:24 Split Legislature to Lasting Legacy
43:51 The Advice You’d Give To The Next Governor
51:14 So…Are You Running? (Actually)
56:09 What Principles Do You Live By?
57:45 Predictions
1:02:30 BTS

Recorded on location at Crunchy's Bar in East Lansing, MI.

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Former D.C. police officer and January 6 survivor Michael Fanone joins the show to talk about Todd Blanche’s confirmation, the J6 Weaponization fund and why MAGA is so determined to let Trump keep embarrassing them. Plus, Fanone recounts the day he nearly died defending the Capitol, its politicization as well as his reaction to Trump’s pardons of January 6 defendants.

00:00 Re-Introducing Michael Fanone
1:06 Datacenters Are A Plague
4:24 “I thought I was going to die a cop” - Understanding Fanone’s Journey
8:26 My disdain for politics and politicians started at an early age
15:39 I Voted For Donald Trump In 2016
17:23 Fanone’s Story of January 6th 2021
37:23 The J6 Riots & Trump’s Weaponization Fund
41:47 How Fanone Reacted To Trump’s Pardons
46:52 Taxing The Weaponization Fund
49:20 MAGA’s Continued Willingness To Let Trump Humiliate Them
56:38 The Tate Brothers, Joe Rogan & MAGA’s Love of Toxic Men
1:05:20 Facing The Most Significant Election Of Our Republic
1:08:08 Predicting Trump’s Future Pardons & The One Job Fanone Wants
1:13:36 Nobody Would Hire Me So I Have To Do This

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David Pakman joins the show to discuss how YouTube, social media algorithms, and artificial intelligence are reshaping politics, public opinion, and our democracy. They discuss why conservative voices often outperform liberals online, the Democratic Party's messaging challenges, and what we can learn about how populist messages spread online.

00:00 Intro

00:33 World Cup Aftermath & The Trump Impact

3:43 The DSA As The Liberal Tea Party

7:15 Does Pakman's Youtube Channel Make Him A Hypocrite?

10:02 The 2028 Election Will Be Determined By Artificial Intelligence & Algorithm Manipulation

12:51 Social Media Platforms Don't Reward Truth

18:04 How to Fight Back Against Algorithmic Manipulation

23:57 How YouTube Has Changed Our Politicians & Killed Authenticity

27:30 Can Nuanced Conversations Ever Travel Online?

30:07 Why The Right Is So Much More Successful Online

32:55 Populism & Independence: Why Bernie & Tucker Break Through & Fox News Is Still Figuring It Out

39:55 We Are Not Prepared For AI To Take Over Our Social Media Feeds

47:17 Loneliness, The Manosphere, and Why The Left Still Fails When it Comes To Toxic Masculinity

50:15 Is Government Moving Too Slowly & What Trump Gets Right

54:01 Pakman's Media Strategy For The Democratic Party & How To Talk About The Economy

1:01:52 The DSA Should Be A Red Alert For The Democratic Party

1:08:53 Biden's Populist Streak & Communication Problems

1:12:38 Is There Any Hope For Democracy In This Media Environment?

Pre-order David's new book Pay Attention: How the Algorithms and Media Wars Are Suppressing Truth and Rewiring Your Brain

https://www.harpercollins.com/products/pay-attention-david-pakman?variant=44812531105826

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Former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie joins the show to talk about the Todd Blanche confirmation hearings, Trump’s corrupt presidency and why the Jeffrey Epstein scandal always felt different. Drawing on his firsthand experience inside Trump's inner circle, Christie shares his account of how things really worked in the White House, his relationship with the Kushners, and the moment he broke with the former president. They also examine the future of both parties, who the DSA is helping and how Democrats should be speaking about Trump.

00:00 Todd Blanche’s Confirmation Hearing, Reactions, & How To Fix The Justice Department
16:55 The Epstein Files & How Pam Bondi Lost Trump’s Trust
26:17 The Link Between Epstein & The Access Hollywood Tape
29:20 Kushner(s) & Tom Brady
38:50 How Christie Became The Chair of Trump’s Transition Team Over Jared’s Objection
43:21 How Steve Bannon & Jared Kushner Handled Personnel Changes In The White House
47:44 How One Conversation With Christie Shaped Trump’s Covid Response
54:53 When Christie Realized Trump Wasn’t For Him
57:39 Does Trump Actually Believe He Won in 2020?
1:00:30 Trump’s Primetime Address & His Election Denialism
1:03:03 Why Democrats Shouldn’t Focus On Trump’s in 2028
1:07:50 How To Discuss Trump’s Corruption & His Attack on Democracy
1:12:26 Christie’s Current 2026 Predictions: House & Senate & The Possibility of Impeachment
1:15:33 The Rise of The DSA: Mamdani, AOC & Who Bernie Sanders Is Actually Helping
1:20:11 How Trump Intends to Shape 2028 & The One Republican Who Push Back

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Bestselling author and business thinker Jim Collins sits down for a personal conversation about purpose, leadership, and how to build a meaningful life. At a time when many young people feel increasingly uncertain about their future and are searching for direction, Collins offers our audience something different; a framework for finding purpose beyond career success.

Inspired by his new book, What to Make of a Life: Cliffs, Fog, Fire and the Self-Knowledge Imperative, Collins details how to navigate life's defining events, positive and negative. He also shares the habits and strategies that have shaped him while providing guidance for anyone looking to build a life of meaning in an increasingly uncertain world.

00:00 Inspiration & How To Make A Social Science Book Personal
9:39 What To Make Of A Life
13:07 What Inspires Someone To Write
19:07 Intention & Becoming A 4 AM Person
25:08 Cliff Events & Pairs: Evaluating Reactions To Similar Circumstances
31:07 This Notion of Encoding
41:25 What Makes The Multiple Types Of Success
45:05 Fogs
49:14 The Bug Book
53:46 Fire & Aging
1:05:07 Staying In Frame
1:15:49 Choosing Responsibility
1:25:15 The One Thing Collins Learned Writing This Book
1:32:38 Finding Your BHAG

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Ahead of the July 4th holiday and America's 250th anniversary we're replaying our conversation with filmmaker and historian Ken Burns.

Burns discusses what made Washington's leadership so different from today's leaders, the Trump administration's struggle to erase American history and how his work threatens autocrats. Plus Burns discusses whether we truly are in unique times what comforts he finds from being such a student of history and how DEI actually has historical roots.

00:00 Flawed Heroes Founded This Country
9:27 - Disinformation & Censorship Is Nothing New
12:47 Who Made The Revolution Possible?
18:00 Faith & Religion in Our Democracy
24:54 The Birthright Citizenship Fight & American Nativism
28:25 American Patriotism & The Disappointing Legislative Branch
35:39 "I Just Want To Know Who Is Being Protected"
42:03 The One Thing That Surprised Burns About The Revolution
50:15 Ranking Today Amongst Historical American Crises
58:00 Make America Great Again Going Forward
1:02:10 Ken Burns Relationship With Steve Jobs & Apple

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Podcaster and independent media powerhouse Brian Tyler Cohen joins the show to break down the future of the Democratic Party, why Republicans are already executing their long-term strategy, and why Democrats need to deliver fast or risk losing a whole generation of people who are up for grabs right now.
Brian then outlines how progressives can compete in today's media landscape, why voting rights are a chance for Democrats to actually win and how to battle the impending Supreme Court crisis.

Plus, Brian shares how Democrats should wield their power after Trump and for more on his 2029 plans check out his new book The Day After: How to Wield Power in a Post-Trump World

BOOK LINK: https://www.harpercollins.com/pages/thedayafter

00:00 From Hollywood to Independent Creator
3:03 How Democrats Can Embrace an Insurgency Mindset
7:30 Why Republicans Are So Good At Playing the Long Game
16:15 Democrats Need to Stop Playing Defense
22:27 The Courts Are a Crisis Waiting to Happen
32:57 Voting Rights Reform
38:10 Who Gets a Pardon?
42:09 The Greatest Con of This Administration
49:45 Democratizing the Economy
53:18 Why Healthcare Is Still Broken
57:40 Can Democrats Win the Media War?
1:09:18 Purity Tests & Coalition Building
1:16:00 Where Democrats Should Focus Their Political Capital
1:19:39 Climate Change: The Missed Opportunity
1:26:17 The Last Election
1:31:34 Democrats Must Deliver Accountability Post-Trump

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Right now it seems like everyone’s afraid of AI. Whether its worries over job loss, wealth concentration, or lack of regulation, anxiety around artificial intelligence is real. Here to make a case for why we shouldn’t be so afraid, is Reid Hoffman, AI optimist and someone who has thought about the way artificial intelligence can lead to positive outcomes more than anyone. Hoffman sits down to talk about why we’re not powerless in how AI impacts our lives, and how to best incorporate it without losing your identity or job.

00:00 Intro

00:23 Is Artificial Intelligence Going To Kill My Job?

8:14 Does Artificial Intelligence Have A PR Problem?

15:07 The Optimist’s Case For Embracing AI

27:09 Humanity First, Society Second, Industry Third

37:12 Do The Tech Industry Players Shaping Our Future Care About Us?

43:44 Crypto As A Cautionary Tale: How Dems Should Talk About AI

49:23 Elon, The SpaceX IPO and Greatest Kleptocracy of Our Lifetimes

55:20 Investing In Data Centers & Compute

1:03:34 What Happened With Mythos & OpenAI?

1:09:54 Positive Impacts: Where Are We 5 Years From Now?

1:23:31 Concentration of Wealth, Corruption & Selling Out To Trump

1:33:28 2 Subjects Of DOJ Investigations

1:38:38 Where Does The Democratic Party Stand Today?

1:42:06 Pro-Business Democrats & The Billionaire’s Tax

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Long one of the most discussed figures in politics, Hunter Biden joins the podcast for an unfiltered conversation about addiction, public scrutiny, and the political battles that have defined the last several years. He reflects on the darkest moments of his life, the controversies that dominated headlines, and why he believes now is the time to speak directly to the public.

From his father's legacy and the future of the Democratic Party to what he sees as unprecedented grift within the Trump family, Hunter offers his perspective on the narratives consuming our politics. He also discusses the perils of social media, the DC media ecosystem, his recovery, and his ongoing feud with journalist Jake Tapper.

00:00 He’s Running
3:30 - They Gave Me A Stage And I’m Gonna Use It
7:29 - Why Speak Up Now?
14:45 Biden’s Authenticity vs. Trump’s Audacity
20:04 Graham Platner & Zohran Mamdani
27:20 Art & Addiction
32:20 He Was Never Part Of That DC Elite
38:05 The Obama Years
42:40 It All Happened All At Once - Data Leaks & Criminal Proceedings
54:54 The Prosecution, The Plea & The Pardon
1:03:37 The Trump Family Grift Is Unprecedented
1:14:50 Who Speaks For The Democratic Party?
1:25:28 What’s Next For Hunter Biden?
1:28:37 Hunter vs. Tapper: The Biden Books

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Ex-MAGA influencer Ashley St. Clair joins the show to share her journey from MAGA mouthpiece to outspoken critic of the movement she helped build. She exposes the online influencer networks that begin in the White House and end in your feeds, before revealing why Elon Musk was so desperate to keep her silenced.

00:00 Intro
00:52 Ashley’s MAGA Origin Story
8:10 From TPUSA Recruit To Monetizing Activism
16:45 MAGA Influencers - Who Calls The Shots?
21:55 The Real Elon Musk & Big Tech’s Unchecked Power
36:30 The Trump Influencer Group Chats & How The Left Responds
46:22 Elon's 10,000 Space Lasers & The $40 Million NDA
56:05 St. Clair’s Biggest Regrets

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