This is HCD: Human-Centred Design, UX & Service Design

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We caught up with Anthony Quinn recently and had a fascinating conversation.

For anyone who has seen Anthony speak at design, conferences will know what a strong design thinker he is. We chat about how he got into design, how motivations and also took questions relating to the topics of career challenges from people working in the industry, and also how to increase your influence in an organisation.

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In this episode, we speak Co-Founder of leading Australian product management consultancy Brainmates. We discuss how the roles of service design and product management work together within organisations.

Martin Dowson is Head of Design Forward at Lloyds Banking Group a small team who design 3-10 yrs into the future to challenge and articulate the LBG vision for Digital Customer Experience. Martin’s career has evolved through UX Research, UX Design, Information Architecture, Organisational Design, Start-ups, Service Design, running his own agency before going in-house. He speaks, lectures and mentors on Design Leadership internationally.
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In this episode, we speak to the brilliant Megan Dell. Megan is a Human Center of Design leader based in Melbourne Australia and is currently head of UX for 99 Designs. We get Megan’s perspective on what makes a good and a bad leader and drill deeper into the organizational and cultural considerations that let the Human Center of Design methodology bloom.

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In this episode, we caught up with the wonderful Barbara Spanton from Ottawa in Canada. Barbara is a UX lead in Shopify and in this episode, Barbara is joined by Aman Braich, Principle designer for Intuit Australia, as well as Mark Catanzariti, service designer at Telstra. In today’s episode, we discuss the industry’s obsession with redesign.

There seems to be a culture of throwing out existing designs rather than going back to perfect or tweak them. Today we explore why we do that, how to maybe stop doing that and what opportunities exist if we spend less time redesigning and throwing out perfectly good things. We take a look at how we can focus more on mindset rather than methodology, to build – or should we say re-furbish – a more sustainable design future. Take a listen!

Key Points From This Episode:

• How Barbara got involved with human centered design.
• Disposable design: Why we throw out perfectly good things.
• Why should businesses care about disposable design?
• Suggesting alternatives to the business
• The obsession with metrics.
• Methodology versus mindset.
• How do we know if we are making a system better?
• Behind every merchant, there is a story.
• Barbara’s re-design stories from Central Bank.
• Ditching superiority complexes in the industry.
• Barbara’s advice for emerging HCD talent.
• And much more!

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• Gerry Scullion - Host
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In this episode, we ask the big questions about human-centred design and large organizations. Why design teams alone, are not enough to become customer lead, and why we need to look at a sustainable way to scale human-centred design in organizations.

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Kirsten Mann, VP Product and Experience at Aconex explains that organisations are not designed to value design. Instead, organisations are focused on short-term financial metrics instead of delivering great customer and business outcomes. To change the narrative and to help organisations see the value in design, product folks and designers need to continually engage the Executive team in conversation and demonstrate the value of design by solving broader business problems.

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This episode focusses on discussing all the different challenges faced for organisations and try and hack some of those and figure out why these problems still exist and where these challenges actually come from, and what the outcome is if we can actually manage to deal with them and make some positive change.

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In this episode, we caught up with Cyril Secourgeon, the Principal Human Centered Designer practitioner at Westpac group, one of Australia’s big four banks.

We discussed the methods that the wider HCD team in Westpac use to help keep stakeholders engaged. Cyril explains the signs to look out for with engaged and disengaged stakeholders and how to work with them to build trust. He takes us through the project process right from the start of projects, and the engagement dos and don’ts when working in large-scale organisations.

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This was a show of firsts! Our very first live podcast in front of an audience, and also the first time we had the wonderful Gerry Gaffney on the show. The show was recorded at the incredible offices of FutureYou, a boutique recruitment consultancy based in downtown Sydney.
It's also our 10th episode of This is HCD!

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In this episode, we caught up with Eduardo Kranz who is a design director at Fjord Canberra. We discussed where the service design and UX professions intersect in respects to the skills and activities that are done on a day to day basis.

We didn't get into the definition of what service design is or isn't or any of the other semi contentious issues around the two practices. We did, however, drill deeper into the practices and daily rituals that Eduardo believes better serves both service design and UX practitioners, and most importantly the client and/or project in question.

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Hello! In this episode, we spoke with Elizabeth Pek, Director of Experience Design at BT Financial Group, about what she believes makes a good designer. This episode is jam-packed with information for both Designers and Design Managers alike.

This episode was hosted by Adrienne Tan and Mark Catanzariti.

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In this episode, we caught up with Andy Polaine who is Regional APAC Design Director for Fjord and also professor Simon McIntyre from UNSW to discuss the future of education and ask the mammoth question of, "Is education broken?".

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• Gerry Scullion - Host
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Over the course of the last year or so, I’ve heard whispers in the UX community of a new role emerge called a UX Writer and instantly was drawn to it as I have identified the issues many times in my career of the solutions that a role like this can address. She also published a really great article on Medium that I’ll also add to the show notes. We caught up online to record this episode, and had a good chat about how Rachael got into the industry, what she does, the principles of good UX writing, what tools she uses and much much more.

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Hello, welcome to another episode of This is HCD. My name is Gerry Scullion, and I’m a Human Centered Design Practitioner based in Australia. The episode that you are about to hear was recorded in Melbourne CBD so would like to acknowledge the Boonwarung people of the Kulin nation as the traditional custodians of the land where we meet today and pay respect to their elders, both past and present.

Chirryl-Lee Ryan is what she calls, a transdisciplinary design practitioner, merging many design disciplines into a super force. Anyone who is familiar with Chirryl will know she is a no-holds-barred speaker. She says what she means, and mean what she says and is a force to be reckoned with.

We were recently together on a Design Panel about Designing for Social Impact for Academy XI in Sydney and had a whale of a time.

Kelsey Schwinn (GM of Today), Gerry Scullion (Director of Humana), Chirryl-Lee Ryan (Transdisciplinary Designer), Andy Polaine (Regional APAC Design Director for Fjord) at the Academy XI ‘Design for Social Impact’ in Sydney, February 2018. Photo credit: Kimberley Ryan

We caught up in Melbourne to extend that conversation and go deeper into areas that we touched on such as ‘are we making things better’ ‘what shoes would chirryl wear in a zombie apocalypse, and what the future of design looks like through Chirryl’s eyes.
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This episode is the second part in a two-part series with Andy Polaine, the regional APAC design director for Fjord and Simon McIntyre who is the Associate Dean of Education in UNSW, formally COFA, the College of Fine Art and Design.

In the first part, we spoke about the problems faced in education and spoke about some of the origins of these problems. This episode builds on that but goes deeper into the work that UNSW is undertaking about redesigning the university with a focus on enabling a culture that will better place their students for the future.

What's so good about this combination of Andy and Simon is not only have they worked together before but is the relationship between Andy's service design history and his academic past in teaching in Europe. Together with Simon, they approach the subject of the future of education with pragmatism.

• Simons email mentioned in this episode S.McIntyre@unsw.edu.au

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So, today's topic is an absolutely massive one "most organizations still largely live in the 20th century, in a world where the key currency for success has been ‘exploitation’. But in the 21st century, the name of the game is ‘innovation’. Those are two very different capabilities. Exploitation is about excelling at executing, and scaling products and services in a largely known environment. Innovation is about navigating the unknown, exploring possibilities, and experimenting with new ways of creating value for people with ever-evolving needs." Service Design, Product Management, UX are all part of the later. I'm really excited to get into this. Also joining this episode is the wonderful Nick Coster, co-founder of Brainmates.com

• Read the transcript of this interview
• Connect with Greg on LinkedIn
• http://gregbernarda.com/

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• Gerry Scullion - Host
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In this episode, we caught up with Gentleman designer himself, Jon Hicks. Jon is a graphic designer and illustrator but has worked across a broad spectrum of mediums in his career. Most of us will be familiar with Jons work, whether it be the first Firefox logo, or Spotify's icons, or ANZ customers in Australia will recognise his icons in their applications. Having worked with Jon many times over the years, I can honestly say he’s one of the best in the world at what he does, so was incredibly happy to have him on the show.

Also joining in on the conversation was Principal Designer at Intuit, Aman Braich who is a brand expert and helping reshape the brand identity for Intuit both in Australia and the US. So I sandwiched between icon and brand gurus in this episode. We discussed the differences and similarities between icon and brand, governance of both, the importance of context in design, and much more.

Links

• View Jons work at Hicks Design
• Watch Jon talk about The Icon Design Process
• Read Jons blog
• Follow Jon on Twitter
• Connect with Jon on LinkedIn
• Connect with Aman Braich on LinkedIn

Creators & Guests

• Gerry Scullion - Host
• Stef Murphy - Producer

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In this episode, we chat with the author of Ethnographic Thinking, Jay Hasbrouck. We go through what ethnographic thinking is and how it should be applied to inform richer contextual insights for design teams and how designers have abused or misunderstood ethnography and even touch on some retail rituals in the US and talk about how going off-piste in Jay's research plan in Japan led him to a shoe hotel and all the rich insights about the culture that followed.

• Jays website
• Jay Hasbrouck on LinkedIn

Creators & Guests

• Gerry Scullion - Host
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→ Train my organisation https://www.thisishcd.com/training
→ Video Courses https://www.thisishcd.com/courses
→ Coaching Community (Coaching, Courses, WhatsApp) https://www.thisishcd.com/members
→ Gerry's consultancy (Service Design and Design Research) https://humana.design/

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→ FREE Introduction to Journey Management course with Marc Stickdorn & Gerry Scullion (Sign up for free with an email)
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→ Discover & Connect with others https://www.thisishcd.com/directory
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In this episode we caught up with Marc Stickdorn, co-author of ‘This is Service Design Thinking Book’ and most recently the epic and one of the most important design books in yonks, ‘This is Service Design Doing’, a book that has been celebrated in the service design community like it’s the millennium.

Update May 2018 - We have a number of copies of the book to giveaway to people subscribed to our fortnightly newsletter. Thanks to More than Metrics and O'Reilly Media in New York for their support of the podcast.

Creators & Guests

• Gerry Scullion - Host
• Stef Murphy - Producer

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→ Train my organisation https://www.thisishcd.com/training
→ Video Courses https://www.thisishcd.com/courses
→ Coaching Community (Coaching, Courses, WhatsApp) https://www.thisishcd.com/members
→ Gerry's consultancy (Service Design and Design Research) https://humana.design/

________________________
BECOME A DIRECTORY MEMBER (IT'S FREE!) and get all of this

→ FREE Introduction to Journey Management course with Marc Stickdorn & Gerry Scullion (Sign up for free with an email)
https://www.thisishcd.com/dashboard/learning/introduction-to-journey-management
→ Discover & Connect with others https://www.thisishcd.com/directory
→ Claim partner discounts https://www.thisishcd.com/partners
Gerry wears clothes from Sutsu, and has a coupon code for them, as well as Smaply, Scenario Cards, Unit 1 and more...
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