Podcast

Thoroughly Considered

From Relay FM Arts, Business, Design

A show about entrepreneurship, product design, and the ups and downs of running a small indie business. Hosted by Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley.

Episodes
135
Releases
Monthly
Typical length
55 min
On air since
2015
Latest episode
3 weeks ago

Episodes

135 episodes, newest first

  1. Mark Four

    Episode 136

    Show notes

    Myke chats with Tom and Dan chat about the new Kickstarter campaign for their first fountain pen, Mark Four.

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    Mark Four: A Minimal, Durable, Custom Machined Fountain Pen. – Studio Neat

    The Mark One Refill Guide – Studio Neat

    52 min
  2. Obi is Back

    Episode 135

    Show notes

    Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about the resurrection of Obi (in name, at least), the new iPhone Duo, and flush door handles on EVs.

    Links and Show Notes:

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    Upgrade #637: My Job Is to Eat the Marshmallow - Relay

    Hypercritical: EV Stupidity Checklist

    42 min
  3. Kevin Kelly Remains Undefeated

    Episode 134

    Show notes

    Myke, Dan, and Tom chat about Dan’s new guitar company, Offkilter. They then chat about Myke’s successful Kickstarter campaign for his new podcast with Jason Snell, Designed in California.

    Links and Show Notes:

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    Offkilter Guitars

    Offkilter – Instagram

    Blog — Dan Provost

    Designed in California – Kickstarter Campaign

    Upgrade #609: The Origin of Apple - Relay

    Upgrade #619: Road to the Apple II: Apple for Sale (Part 1) - Relay

    Kevin Kelly: 1,000 True Fans

    50 min
  4. Inspired by Star Wars™

    Episode 133

    Show notes

    Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about the new Limited Edition, and then dive into the state of the union of their respective businesses. Then, as usual, some AI discussion to close the show.

    Links and Show Notes:

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    Limited Edition 019 – Studio Neat

    Mark One Custom Program – Studio Neat

    Artifact (app) - Wikipedia

    Apocalypto - Wikipedia

    1 hr 1 min
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  6. Authenticity in Marketing

    Episode 131

    Show notes

    Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about the latest Limited Edition Mark One, and then have a long discussion about adding personality and authenticity into marketing efforts.

    Links and Show Notes:

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    Limited Edition 018 – Studio Neat

    Craighill on Instagram

    BBC Radio 4 - Desert Island Discs, Sir Jony Ive, designer

    Jonathan Ive on Blue Peter - YouTube

    44 min
  7. Embarrassment, Then Relief

    Episode 130

    Show notes

    Myke is thinking of running a Kickstarter campaign, and wants to talk it out with Tom and Dan.

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    46 min
  8. Get the Customer

    Episode 129

    Show notes

    Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about how their Black Fridays went, and the various marketing strategies they deployed. Then, Dan can’t resist re-introducing the iPad vs laptop discussion, with a new angle.

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    55 min
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  10. Replace the X with an A

    Episode 127

    Show notes

    Myke and Dan share some thoughts on the new iPhone lineup, then Tom joins the show to chat about the new Studio Neat Patch Club design. Then, Dan proposes a new old camera design for iPhones.

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    PITAKA

    Apple iPhone 17 Skins & Wraps » dbrand

    Studio Neat Patch Club – Patch 003

    48 min
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  12. Pikachu Phone Cases

    Episode 125

    Show notes

    Myke, Dan, and Tom are back to chat about the Glif returning for sale, the Seneca mechanical keyboard, Jony Ive and io, Liquid Glass, and revisit a longstanding discussion on merging OS platforms.

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    Glif – Studio Neat

    the Seneca – Norbauer & Co.

    How to build the best keyboard in the world | The Verge

    Steve Jobs explains why computers are a bicycle for the mind: “We humans are tool builders” - YouTube

    Rose-Gold-Tinted Liquid Glasses – Louie Mantia

    WWDC25: Meet Liquid Glass | Apple - YouTube

    1 hr 15 min
  13. 1 hr 11 min
  14. The Last Detail with John Siracusa

    Episode 123

    Show notes

    Today’s guest is John Siracusa, the proprietor of Hypercritical.co and co-host of Accidental Tech Podcast and Reconcilable Differences. His object is the 2019 Mac Pro.

    Guest Starring:

    John Siracusa

    Links and Show Notes:

    On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between.

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    Mac Pro - Apple

    Mac Pro (2019) - Technical Specifications - Apple Support

    WWDC 2019 Keynote — Apple - YouTube

    The 2020 Mac Pro: A Silent Killer! - MKBHD - YouTube

    Hypercritical

    Accidental Tech Podcast

    Reconcilable Differences - Relay

    1 hr 21 min
  15. The Last Detail with Chase Reeves

    Episode 122

    Show notes

    Today’s guest is Chase Reeves, know for his extensive gear reviews on YouTube. His object is the Rhizal Brio slip-on barefoot shoe.

    Guest Starring:

    Chase Reeves

    Links and Show Notes:

    On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between.

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    RHIZAL Brio Slip-On / Clay / Mens - Grounded Barefoot Natural Leather

    Chase Reeves

    Chase Reeves - YouTube

    1 hr 6 min
  16. The Last Detail with Austin Mann

    Episode 121

    Show notes

    Today’s guest is Austin Mann, a world renowned landscape and wildlife photographer. His object is the Really Right Stuff BH-40 ball head.

    Guest Starring:

    Austin Mann

    Links and Show Notes:

    On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between.

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    Travel Photographer - Austin Mann

    BH-40 Ball Head

    Really Right Stuff - Camera

    Yo-Yo Ma Photo – Instagram

    51 min
  17. Imbue All of the Choices

    Episode 120

    Show notes

    Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about Dan’s new guitar build, how Keen progress is going, and their business themes for the year. Then a Dan’s Tech Corner about All-in-One computers.

    Links and Show Notes:

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    Thoroughly Considered #110: Mid-life Crisis Hobby - Relay

    Offset P-90 Build — Dan Provost

    Tech Talk - Relicing Guitars – Northwest Guitars

    Leo Fender - Wikipedia

    Keen – Studio Neat

    The Theme System Journal by Cortex Brand

    52 min
  18. Anti Alton Brown Corollary

    Episode 119

    Show notes

    Myke chats with Tom & Dan about how their Black Friday promotions went, using VR as a design tool, and then some product recommendations for Myke’s upcoming baby. (!)

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    The best tech and streaming gifts for 2024 - The Verge

    Gravity Sketch

    Apple, Sony Talk PlayStation VR Hand Controller Support for Vision Pro - Bloomberg

    Tripp Trapp highchair | Stokke

    59 min
  19. Sales and Discounts

    Episode 118

    Show notes

    Myke, Tom, and Dan give a Keen production update, before diving into a discussion about sales and discounts during the upcoming holidays. They close the show with a Dan’s Tech Corner.

    Links and Show Notes:

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    Black Friday (shopping) - Wikipedia

    Cyber Monday - Wikipedia

    Early Bird Sale – Studio Neat

    Testing the Vision Pro With New Ultrawide Display Option in visionOS 2.2 - MacRumors

    Dithering

    1 hr 20 min
  20. Patch Club

    Episode 117

    Show notes

    Myke, Tom, and Dan discuss the newly launched Studio Neat Patch Club, Keen assembly and shipping progress, and close the show with a Dan’s Tech Corner.

    Links and Show Notes:

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    Studio Neat Patch Club

    Jony Ive's LoveFrom reinvents the button with Moncler - Fast Company

    Inside Jony Ive’s Life After Apple and His LoveFrom Design Business - The New York Times

    LoveFrom,

    And now… shipping! – Keen – Studio Neat

    1 hr 8 min