Podcast
We Need A Fourth
SmartLess Media presents: We Need a Fourth! Hosts Kenny Mayne, Brian Baumgartner and Cooper Manning are looking for just one thing: someone to fill out their Saturday morning tee time.
Join them each week as they talk to their famous friends who all have one thing in common: their love (and oftentimes hate) for the game of golf. They care less about swing speeds and spin rates, and more about who’s the biggest cheat their guests have ever played with, or what the perfect golf vacation looks like.
It’s the podcast version of a round of golf with your buddies - if your buddies were comedians, actors, athletes, musicians, and other celebs.
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- Golf chart
- #7
- Episodes
- 68
- Releases
- Weekly
- Typical length
- 57 min
- On air since
- 2025
- Latest episode
- 1 day ago
Episodes
68 episodes, newest first
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1 hr 5 min
JJ Spaun on Winning the US Open at Oakmont, the Movie That Inspired Him + Shining Harris English's Shoes
Episode 61
Show notes
JJ Spaun grew up in LA wanting to be Tony Hawk, skateboarding to the golf course after school to avoid being seen in a tucked-in shirt. He walked on at San Diego State, worked his way to a full ride, then had to walk on all over again at every level of professional golf until he found himself at Oakmont with nothing to lose. He breaks down the US Open week that changed everything — including a weather delay on Sunday that mirrored a movie he watched on a red-eye flight to London months earlier. Plus: the time Harris English walked into the Torrey Pines locker room and handed JJ his muddy shoes.
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1 hr 7 min
John Smoltz's Best Tiger Woods Stories, Bobby Cox's Clubhouse Secret + His Youth Baseball Warning
Episode 60
Show notes
John Smoltz played more golf with Tiger Woods than almost anyone — and has the stories to prove it. He breaks down what Tiger was really like on the course, what happened when Tiger stepped into the batting cage against him, and how Bobby Cox quietly built one of the most dominant dynasties in baseball history by letting his pitchers play 36 holes in spring training while the games were going on. Plus: the warning Smoltz delivered in his Hall of Fame speech about youth baseball that nobody is listening to.
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51 min
Tiger's Pick for Best Amateur in the World + Adam Wainwright on Braves Legends on the Golf Course
Episode 59
Show notes
Adam Wainwright spent his career pitching alongside three Hall of Famers — and it turns out they play golf exactly the way they pitched. He breaks down the Braves legends on the course, what John Smoltz told him early in his career about using golf to stay sharp across a 162-game season, and the spring training round where Tiger Woods made his pick for the best amateur golfer in the world. Plus: the six-foot putt he says was the biggest sports moment of his life, the injury that accidentally turned four tomato pots into 1,600 acres, and a dream foursome that includes a president with one very specific agenda item.
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1 hr 2 min
Tiger's Club Intervention & Bill Murray's 19th Hole Confession: Andy Garcia's Hollywood Golf Stories
Episode 58
Show notes
Andy Garcia has been playing golf since the mid-80s and has the Hollywood stories to prove it. Tiger Woods had something to say about his equipment. Bill Murray had something more pressing to share before their first day on set. Joe Pesci once turned down a round with Jack Nicholson for reasons only Joe Pesci could explain. And then there's the Seve Ballesteros story — which Andy has never fully gotten over.
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55 min
Peter Jacobsen on His Rock Band With Payne Stewart + Embarrassing Kevin Costner on the Tin Cup Set
Episode 57
Show notes
Peter Jacobsen spent three decades on the PGA Tour playing golf with rock stars by day and performing with them at night. He breaks down how Jake Trout and the Flounders was born alongside Payne Stewart, Huey Lewis, and Alice Cooper — and what it was actually like on the set of Tin Cup when the tour players walked up to Kevin Costner's shot and started ripping it onto the green. Plus: Jack Lemmon's famous opening tee shot at Pebble, why Jack Nicklaus sucked the air out of a room the same way Tiger did, and the skills challenge where Vijay Singh hit it left-handed better than Phil Mickelson.
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1 hr 19 min
Brandel Chamblee Sounds Off on Phil Mickelson's Legacy, LIV Golf, and the Tiger vs. Jack GOAT Debate
Episode 56
Show notes
Brandel Chamblee has never been shy about LIV Golf, Phil Mickelson, or either of their legacies — and he's not starting now. He breaks down why LIV failed exactly as he predicted, what Phil could have been if he'd never left, and whether there's a path back for anyone who took the Saudi money. Plus: the Tiger vs. Jack GOAT debate, where Scottie Scheffler's ceiling is, and the Augusta evening that remains the sweetest moment of Brandel's entire career.
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1 hr
Annika Sörenstam on Teaming up With Tiger, Ms. 59, and Playing in a Men's PGA Tour Event
Episode 55
Show notes
Annika Sörenstam is the only player in LPGA history to shoot 59 — and that's not even the most remarkable thing she's done. She breaks down the 1995 US Open that launched her career, what it was actually like teaming with Tiger Woods against David Duval and Karrie Webb at the Battle of Bighorn, and the moment at a press conference when she decided to enter a PGA Tour event and play against the men. Plus: how many strokes she'd give Brian in a match, and why she says the number is non-negotiable.
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46 min
ReRelease - Which Team Does Sportscasting Hall of Famer Joe Buck Think Will Win the Super Bowl?
Episode 54
Show notes
This ReRelease episode, the guys welcome a sportscaster who has called 23 World Series and 6 Super Bowls: Joe Buck! He downplays his handicap, but don't you believe it. He shares which Manning brother Dake Maye reminds him most of, the horribly unlucky golf accident that his strong marriage survived, and he does play by play on our hosts worst golf shots
Follow Joe at @joebuck, and follow our hosts Cooper Manning @coopermanning, Kenny Mayne @mayne.kenny & Brian Baumgartner @bbbaumgartner
We Need a Fourth is produced by SmartLess Media and Electric Avenue. Brian Baumgartner, Cooper Manning, Kenny Mayne and Stewart Bailey are Executive Producers. Produced by Anne Harris and Kyle McGraw. Engineered by Kyle McGraw. Edited by Joshua Richmond. Associate Producer is Maddie McCann. Executive Producer for Electric Avenue is Marc Forman. Executive Producers for Smartless Media are Sean Hayes, Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Richard Korson and Bernie Kaminski.
Keywords for this episode: Monday Night Football, Troy Aikman, Jack Buck, American Century Championship, St. Louis Cardinals, World Series, Super Bowl, Seattle Seahawks, New England Patriots, Drake Maye, Sam Darnold, ESPN, SportsCenter, Fox Sports, The Manning Hour, The Office
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47 min
ReRelease - What Does Superstar Golf Influencer Paige Spiranac Say to Her Haters?
Episode 53
Show notes
On this ReRelease episode the guys are thrilled to welcome perhaps the biggest golf influencer in the world: Paige Spiranac. Fresh off the finals at the Internet Invitational, Paige shares Kenny's hatred for golf dress codes, who is actually taking those pictures of her, and what happens when you go off script on the set of Happy Gilmore 2.
Follow Paige at _paige.renee, and follow our hosts Cooper Manning @coopermanning, Kenny Mayne @mayne.kenny & Brian Baumgartner @bbbaumgartner
We Need a Fourth is produced by SmartLess Media and Electric Avenue. Brian Baumgartner, Cooper Manning, Kenny Mayne and Stewart Bailey are Executive Producers. Produced by Anne Harris and Kyle McGraw. Engineered by Kyle McGraw. Edited by Joshua Richmond. Associate Producer is Maddie McCann. Executive Producer for Electric Avenue is Marc Forman. Executive Producers for Smartless Media are Sean Hayes, Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Richard Korson and Bernie Kaminski.
Keywords for this episode: Paige Spiranac, Internet Invitational, Fat Perez, Roger Steele, Adam Sandler, Happy Gilmore 2, Chris Pratt, Luke Wilson, Joe Jonas, ESPN, SportsCenter, Fox Sports, The Manning Hour, The Office
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1 hr 1 min
The Next Jim Nantz: Taylor Zarzour on Bryson's Villain Arc, Cam Ward's Complaint, and Golf's Hardest Call
Episode 52
Show notes
Cooper Manning calls him the next Jim Nantz — and after this conversation, it's hard to argue. Taylor Zarzour calls the Masters with Mike Tirico, voices the Tennessee Titans, and has spent years interviewing golf's biggest personalities up close. He breaks down why Bryson DeChambeau is actually one of the most fun interviews in the sport, what Cam Ward told him about his touchdown calls, and why golf on the radio is the hardest thing to do in broadcasting.
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1 hr 29 min
30 Years of Unheard Tiger, Jack, and Arnie Stories: Rich Lerner Goes Inside the Ropes
Episode 51
Show notes
Tiger Woods, Jack Nicklaus, and Arnold Palmer: Rich Lerner spent 30 years inside the ropes with all three and has the stories nobody else can tell. He breaks down Tiger's case as the greatest golfer ever, what Ernie Els' father said about trying to compete with him, and why Arnie was unlike any famous person he ever encountered. Plus: the single most memorable moment of his entire career, which had nothing to do with a golf shot.
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1 hr 4 min
Justin Thomas on the LIV vs PGA Tour War, Why Scottie Scheffler Is Different, and His Major Miracle
Episode 50
Show notes
Justin Thomas doesn't hold back on the state of professional golf — what LIV's arrival actually did to the rivalries and personalities that made the game compelling, and why Bryson DeChambeau is central to that conversation. He also breaks down what makes Scottie Scheffler so hard to beat, and revisits the Sunday at Southern Hills where he was eight strokes back standing on the ninth green and somehow won his second major.
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1 hr 2 min
Super Troopers' Jay Chandrasekhar Is So Addicted to Golf He Wrote a Movie Just to Play in Scotland
Episode 49
Show notes
Jay Chandrasekhar played golf 680 out of 730 consecutive days — and that's not even the most obsessive thing about his relationship with the game. The Super Troopers director breaks down his four different golf addictions, what it's like lying to his crew so he can sneak out for nine holes during a shoot, and why he wrote an entire movie set in Scotland just so someone else would pay for the golf trip.
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1 hr 2 min
The PGA Tour Secrets Only A Veteran Caddie Would Know: Michael Collins' Hilarious Stories
Episode 48
Show notes
Michael Collins spent 10 years as a PGA Tour caddie and a stand-up comedian at the same time — and the stories he's collected from inside the ropes are unlike anything you've heard before. He breaks down what really goes on out there, how the caddie world actually works, and why the job is nothing like what most people think it is.
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39 min
ReRelease - YouTube Golf Star Fat Perez Isn't Crazy About His Nickname
Episode 47
Show notes
On this ReRelease episode, the guys meet golf influencer, cold beer enthusiast and former accountant Fat Perez. We learn about his golf eurostep, his chance meeting with Pat Perez, and why he's never going back to that desk job.
Follow Fat Perez at @thefatperez, and follow our hosts Cooper Manning @coopermanning, Kenny Mayne @mayne.kenny & Brian Baumgartner @bbbaumgartner
We Need a Fourth is produced by SmartLess Media and Electric Avenue. Brian Baumgartner, Cooper Manning, Kenny Mayne and Stewart Bailey are Executive Producers. Produced by Anne Harris and Kyle McGraw. Engineered by Kyle McGraw. Edited by Joshua Richmond. Associate Producer is Maddie McCann. Executive Producer for Electric Avenue is Marc Forman. Executive Producers for Smartless Media are Sean Hayes, Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Richard Korson and Bernie Kaminski.
Keywords for this episode: Fat Perez, Nick Stubbe, Bob Does Sports, Barstool Sports, Pat Perez, Scotland, St. Andrews, Breezy Golf, Haggis, Austin Reaves, Steph Curry, ESPN, SportsCenter, Fox Sports, The Manning Hour, The Office
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45 min
ReRelease - PGA's Max Homa Revives His Savage Swing Roasts—Which of Our Hosts Gets Burned the Worst?
Episode 46
Show notes
On this ReRelease episode the guys are joined by one of the best and one of the funniest guys on the PGA tour: Max Homa. Max revives his infamous swing roasts on our hosts, talks about getting a headlock from Aaron Rodgers' security team and tells us about his PGA record setting 477 (!) foot drive
Follow Max at @MaxHoma, and follow our hosts Cooper Manning @coopermanning, Kenny Mayne @mayne.kenny & Brian Baumgartner @bbbaumgartner
We Need a Fourth is produced by SmartLess Media and Electric Avenue. Brian Baumgartner, Cooper Manning, Kenny Mayne and Stewart Bailey are Executive Producers. Produced by Anne Harris and Kyle McGraw. Engineered by Kyle McGraw. Edited by Joshua Richmond. Associate Producer is Maddie McCann. Executive Producer for Electric Avenue is Marc Forman. Executive Producers for Smartless Media are Sean Hayes, Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Richard Korson and Bernie Kaminski.
Keywords for this episode: Max Homa, PGA, Aaron Rodgers, Masters, John Mallinger, Colt Knost, Scottie Scheffler, LA Dodger, ESPN, SportsCenter, Fox Sports, The Manning Hour, The Office
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52 min
JR Smith on the 2016 Cavs Reunion, LeBron Chasing Scratch, and His College Golf Journey
Episode 45
Show notes
JR Smith, LeBron James, and the 2016 Cavs championship team are all deep into golf now — and JR has stories. He breaks down what really happened on the Cavs reunion trip across England and Scotland, how good LeBron can actually get, and what it was like walking away from the NBA to become the oldest guy on a college golf team.
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38 min
ReRelease - Can Eli Manning Count a Bank Shot as a Hole-in-One if He Didn’t Call Bank?
Episode 44
Show notes
On this ReRelease episode, Brian, Cooper, and Kenny welcome golfer and two time Superbowl champion Eli Manning to the podcast, and we cover his fluke hole in one, how Brian possibly violated his locker back in the day, and who is the biggest bully of the Manning brothers.
Follow Eli Manning at @elimanning and watch Monday Night Football with Peyton and Eli on ESPN2, and @chadpowershulu premiering September 30.
We Need a Fourth is produced by Smartless Media and Electric Avenue. Brian Baumgartner, Cooper Manning, Kenny Mayne and Stewart Bailey are executive producers. Produced by Anne Harris and Kyle McGraw. Engineered by Kyle McGraw. Edited by Joshua Richmond. Associate producer is Maddie McCann. Executive Producer for Electric Avenue is Marc Forman. Executive producers for Smartless Media are Sean Hayes, Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Richard Korson and Bernie Kaminski.
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34 min
ReRelease - Austin Reaves Says He's Better Than Steph Curry...at Golf
Episode 43
Show notes
On this ReRelease episode, Brian, Cooper, and Kenny are joined by Lakers guard and one hell of a golfer Austin Reaves from the hallowed grounds of St. Andrews, Scotland. Fresh off a round at the Old Course with our hosts, Austin settles his golf debt to Brian, says Kenny would not lose a hole to Lebron, watches Cooper drink a shot of liquefied haggis (!), and stakes his claim to to be the best golfer in the NBA. Steph? Thoughts?
Follow Austin at @austinreaves12
We Need a Fourth is produced by SmartLess Media and Electric Avenue. Brian Baumgartner, Cooper Manning, Kenny Mayne and Stewart Bailey are Executive Producers. Produced by Anne Harris and Kyle McGraw. Engineered by Kyle McGraw. Edited by Joshua Richmond. Associate Producer is Maddie McCann. Executive Producer for Electric Avenue is Marc Forman. Executive Producers for Smartless Media are Sean Hayes, Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Richard Korson and Bernie Kaminski
Keywords for this episode: Austin Reaves, LeBron James, St. Andrews, Travis Matthew, Los Angeles Lakers, Arkansas, Haggis, Russacks Hotel, Steph Curry, ESPN, SportsCenter, Fox Sports, The Manning Hour, The Office
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43 min
Melvin Gordon on Chasing Barry Sanders, "Disrupting" Golf With Vibes, and Playing Twice a Day
Episode 42
Show notes
Melvin Gordon still thinks about the 41 yards that kept him from passing Barry Sanders' rushing record — and how that ties into his love for golf. He breaks down how he went from hating golf on his very first round to building Vibes Golf Club, a community aimed at changing who shows up on the course, and co-hosting We Know Ball, a show built to bring golf to people who'd otherwise never tune in. Plus: the saga of his five broken drivers this year, his ongoing campaign for left-handed golfer rights, and why he's still chasing his first round in the 80s while playing nearly every day.
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