Podcast

What Gives? The Jewish Philanthropy Podcast

Judaism, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

The issues, stories, and people changing the world in philanthropy and the Jewish community. If you like "What Gives?" be sure to check out "Outside the Tzedakah Box" (https://honeycomb.org/podcast-outside-tzedakah-box/) a podcast on Jewish youth philanthropy from JFN's Honeycomb.

Episodes
89
Releases
Every two weeks
Typical length
52 min
On air since
2019
Latest episode
6 days ago

Episodes

89 episodes, newest first

  1. Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib - Confronting Extremism with Radical Pragmatism

    Episode 87

    Show notes

    Episode 87 of What Gives?—the Jewish Philanthropy Podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, Andrés speaks with Ahmed Fuoad Alkhatib, a Gaza native, author of Hamas and Its Two Million Hostages, and senior fellow at the Atlantic Council where he leads the Realign for Palestine project. Ahmed left Gaza as a teenager on a cultural exchange program and was blocked from returning home by Hamas's violent takeover in 2007. He spent the years since building a career as one of the most outspoken Palestinian critics of Hamas while remaining unapologetically committed to Palestinian statehood and self-determination.

    Andrés and Ahmed talk about what it means to actually be pro-Palestinian, and why he believes most Gazans are themselves hostages to Hamas rule. He makes a fascinating case for what he calls radical pragmatism, a way of confronting extremism without being an extremist yourself.

    This episode is not a typical What Gives conversation, but it contains many important messages for leaders and funders. Courageous voices that see the world with nuance and rationality, who are not afraid to challenge the orthodoxy at the dogmatism of their own side deserve to be lifted.

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    59 min
  2. Jamie Simon - Jewish Identity Takes Root at Camp

    Episode 86

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    Episode 86 of What Gives?—the Jewish Philanthropy Podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, Andrés speaks with Jamie Simon, CEO of the Foundation for Jewish Camp, which supports a network of 340 nonprofit Jewish camps across North America.

    Research consistently backs up what many of us have long suspected about Jewish camp: creating the space for Jewish belonging gives campers the confidence to make Jewish practice and community feel like their own. A 2026 peer-reviewed study from FJC found that a camper's sense of belonging is one of the strongest predictors of the life skills and character strengths they walk away with, and their 2011 Camp Works study found that people who felt that sense of belonging as kids are significantly more likely to be engaged Jewish adults, from synagogue membership to a stronger connection to Israel.

    Jamie and Andrés talk about what makes Jewish camp such a powerful setting for building that identity, why affordability and bed capacity are the two biggest obstacles standing between FJC and its goal of doubling camp attendance, and how camps are navigating conversations about Israel and Zionism with staff and teens in this pivotal moment.

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    43 min
  3. Rabbi Angela Buchdahl - Heart of a Stranger

    Episode 85

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    Episode 85 of What Gives?—the Jewish Philanthropy Podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, Andrés speaks with Rabbi Angela Buchdahl, Senior Rabbi of Central Synagogue in New York and author of the New York Times Best Seller Heart of a Stranger. Rabbi Buchdahl leads one of the most influential pulpits in the country. In this episode, she talks about what it takes to lead a community through a moment this divided. She and Andrés talk about what courageous leadership costs when you cannot afford everyone's approval, and how she addressed a charged election season without telling any young Jew there was no longer room for them in the tent.

    Angela’s career grew out of a life spent feeling like an outsider in every community she belonged to, and looking for home in all of them. But rather than treat it as something to overcome, she argues it may be the most Jewish thing about her, and she makes a case for why that has everything to do with how we lead and who we let in.

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    51 min
  4. Eric Goldstein - Lessons From a Decade of Crisis Leadership

    Episode 84

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    Episode 84 of What Gives?—the Jewish Philanthropy Podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, Andrés speaks with Eric Goldstein, who, after more than twelve years at the helm of the largest local Jewish charity in the world, is stepping down this fall as CEO of UJA-Federation of New York. Eric came to the role by an unusual path, spending thirty-one years as a litigator before he ever sat behind a federation desk, and he arrived already knowing the organization from the inside as a board vice chair and a major donor.

    In this conversation, Andrés and Eric reflect on a tenure that ran through COVID-19, October 7, and a run of once-in-a-generation crises that arrived almost yearly. They talk about what all of this revealed about the Jewish community and the institutions meant to hold it together. Eric makes a full-throated case for the federation model in an age that loves to root for its disruptors. He speaks about the way UJA draws its boundaries while funding a community that includes both the Haredi world and LGBTQ Jews, and why he believes the widening animosity between the Jewish right and left, along with the drift of younger Jews away from organized Jewish life, may be the most urgent problem he leaves behind.

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    53 min
  5. Jonathan Gottschall - How Story Makes a People

    Episode 83

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    Episode 83 of What Gives?—the Jewish Philanthropy Podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, Andrés speaks with Jonathan Gottschall, literary scholar and author of The Storytelling Animal. Jonathan has spent his career studying why human beings are wired for narrative, which he explored with attendees in a fascinating keynote at this year's JFN Conference in San Diego.

    In this conversation, Andrés and Jonathan explore the idea that we are not only Homo sapiens but Homo fictus, a species that lives its whole life inside stories. They talk about how stories bind people into groups far larger than kinship ever allowed. We talk about why human communities, whether a nation, a family, or the Jewish people itself, are held together by the stories they share even more than by borders or bloodlines, and what happens when those stories begin to fracture. They also get into the darker side of narrative: how stories can quietly replace reality, why antisemitism is one of the oldest and most destructive fictions ever told, and why the hardest discipline is turning our skepticism on our own stories.

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    46 min
  6. Mark Tooley - What Jews Should Know About Christians in America

    Episode 82

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    Episode 82 of What Gives?—the Jewish Philanthropy Podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, Andrés speaks with Mark Tooley, President of the Institute on Religion & Democracy and editor of the journal Providence, who has spent decades thinking and writing about the relationship between Christianity, democracy, and American public life.

    In this conversation, Andrés and Mark set out to do something that too rarely happens: offer Jews, and frankly a lot of Christians too, a clear and non-caricatured map of the American Christian world. They talk through the real differences between mainline Protestants and evangelicals, where the religious right fits and where it doesn't, why denominations are collapsing into non-denominational and megachurch Christianity, and what actually separates these traditions theologically rather than just politically. They also touch on the defense of democracy, the future of Christian support for Israel, the corrosion of our political discourse, and why the older biblical arguments for standing with the Jewish people may need to be rebuilt on the more basic ground of human dignity.

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    46 min
  7. David Bryfman - Why Your Kids Don't Feel the Way You Do About Israel

    Episode 81

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    Episode 81 of What Gives?—the Jewish Philanthropy Podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, Andrés speaks with Dr. David Bryfman, CEO of The Jewish Education Project and author of the new book Heroism and Hope: Recharging Israel Education in a Post-October 7 World. David and Andrés ask whether October 7 genuinely changed Jewish education or simply forced into the open questions many educators had been wrestling with privately. David makes a provocative case: when adults demand to know why their children don't feel about Israel the way they do, they often reveal more about themselves than about the education their children received. He argues that young people need to arrive at their own understanding in their own way and their own time, even when they land somewhere different from their parents, while insisting that Israel belongs at the core of serious Jewish education rather than at its margins.

    Also discussed are the points where Andrés and David part ways, including Andrés's discomfort with the idea that education should stay neutral about the conclusions students reach, and David's argument for teaching the hard parts of Jewish history honestly so that students don't encounter them for the first time on a hostile campus.

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    55 min
  8. Mitch Silber - What It Takes to Keep Jewish Communities Safe

    Episode 80

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    Episode 80 of What Gives?—the Jewish Philanthropy Podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, Andrés speaks with Mitch Silber, CEO of the Community Security Initiative and former Director of Intelligence Analysis for the NYPD. Mitch and Andrés talk about the changing security landscape facing Jewish communities in New York, across the United States, and around the world. Mitch shares how 9/11 led him from corporate finance into counterterrorism, what he learned helping build the NYPD’s intelligence and counterterrorism capacity, and why the American Jewish community’s approach to security changed so dramatically after the attacks in Pittsburgh, Poway, Jersey City, and Monsey.

    Also discussed are the range of threats facing Jewish institutions today, from white supremacists and Islamist extremists to violent anti-Israel actors, and the difficult questions that follow: what volunteers can and cannot do, when armed security is necessary, how local and national security organizations coordinate, and where philanthropy can make the most concrete difference.

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    50 min
  9. Naomi Firestone-Teeter and Elisa Spungen Bildner - Why Jewish Books Are Central to Jewish Life

    Episode 79

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    Episode 79 of What Gives?—the Jewish Philanthropy Podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, Andrés speaks with Naomi Firestone-Teeter and Elisa Spungen Bildner of the Jewish Book Council, an organization that has spent a century championing Jewish books, Jewish writers, and the readers who find themselves through Jewish stories.

    In this conversation, Naomi, Elisa, and Andrés talk about why books remain such a powerful entry point into Jewish life, especially at a time when Jewish identity, Jewish culture, and Jewish authorship all feel newly urgent. They explore the history of the Jewish Book Council, from its beginnings as Jewish Book Week in 1925 to its current role as a convener, advocate, and ecosystem-builder for Jewish literature. And they discuss the challenges facing Jewish writers and publishers after October 7, the need to make room for Israeli voices and a wider range of Jewish stories, and why funders should see culture as central to Jewish continuity rather than peripheral to it.

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    49 min
  10. Rabbi Elliot Cosgrove - Rabbis, Red Lines, and the Future of Jewish Leadership

    Episode 78

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    Episode 78 of What Gives?—the Jewish Philanthropy Podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, Andrés speaks with Rabbi Elliot Cosgrove, Senior Rabbi at Park Avenue Synagogue and a leading voice in American Jewish life. Through his writing and public leadership, Elliot has been deeply engaged in some of the most contentious debates shaping the Jewish community right now.

    Andrés and Elliot take a close look at the questions raised about the role of rabbis in political life that arose during last fall’s New York City mayoral campaign. They explore how Jewish leaders decide when to speak out, where the boundaries of communal discourse should be drawn, and how questions around Zionism, anti-Zionism, and internal disagreement are playing out across synagogues and campuses. They discuss the pressures facing today’s rabbinate, the challenge of holding communities together amid deep division, and what responsible leadership looks like in a moment that resists easy consensus.

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    53 min
  11. Mijal Bitton & Yehuda Kurtzer - Boundaries, Belonging, and Our Obligations to One Another

    Episode 77

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    Episode 77 of What Gives?—the Jewish Philanthropy Podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, Andrés speaks with Mijal Bitton, spiritual leader of the Downtown Minyan in New York City and scholar in residence at Maimonides Fund, and Yehuda Kurtzer, President of the Shalom Hartman Institute. This episode takes on one of the hardest questions facing Jewish communities right now: how we think about boundaries, belonging, and the obligations we owe one another.

    Using their two recent essays as a point of departure, Andrés, Mijal, and Yehuda explore the tension between kinship and consent in Jewish life, the legacy of radical inclusion in liberal Jewish institutions, and the ways October 7 forced many American Jews to reconsider what peoplehood actually asks of them. They also get into the difficult questions that follow from there: when disagreement becomes rupture, whether some forms of Jewish dissent cross a line, how institutions should think about red lines without becoming consumed by policing them, and what role funders can play in clarifying values without shrinking the tent beyond recognition.

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    Click here to read Mijal's piece.

    Click here to read Yehuda's piece.

    59 min
  12. Eugene Kandel - Israel’s Strategic Future

    Episode 76

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    Episode 76 of What Gives?—the Jewish Philanthropy Podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, Andrés speaks with Eugene Kandel, former Chair of Israel’s National Economic Council, chairman of the Board of the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange, and founder and chairman of the Israel Strategic Futures Institute. Over decades of advising Israeli governments and institutions, Eugene has become one of the leading voices thinking strategically about Israel’s political, economic, and social future.

    In this wide ranging conversation, Andrés and Eugene explore the deep internal divisions shaping Israeli society, the tension between Israel’s Jewish and democratic identities, and the demographic and political forces reshaping the country’s trajectory. They reflect on why polarization has become so dangerous, what October 7 revealed about Israel’s vulnerabilities, and why Jews around the world should be paying close attention to what comes next.

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    59 min
  13. Zack Bodner - Reimagining the Jewish Town Square

    Episode 75

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    Episode 75 of What Gives?—the Jewish Philanthropy Podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, Andrés speaks with Zack Bodner, CEO of the Oshman Family JCC in Palo Alto and founder of the Z3 Project. Zack has spent more than a decade reimagining what a Jewish community center can be in an era of polarization, loneliness, and rapidly shifting modes of belonging.

    Recorded in the aftermath of the Bondi Beach attack in Sydney, the conversation begins with a reflection on communal resilience and leadership in painful moments. Andrés and Zack explore what it means to build “town square” institutions that can hold difference without losing their core values, including how to think about boundaries, platforming, and creating brave spaces for hard conversations. They also discuss Silicon Valley’s culture of experimentation, the evolving role of JCCs, and how projects like Z3 aim to generate ideas, convene diverse voices, and help shape the Jewish future.

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    49 min
  14. Jay Ruderman - Representation, Responsibility, and Real Change

    Episode 74

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    Episode 74 of What Gives?—the Jewish Philanthropy Podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, Andrés speaks with Jay Ruderman, President of the Ruderman Family Foundation and author of the book Find Your Fight: Make Your Voice Heard for the Causes that Matter. Jay has spent years pushing institutions, media, and communities to think more seriously about representation, access, and belonging for people with disabilities.

    Drawing on Jay's decades of advocacy and the ideas at the heart of his book, he reflects on how leaders and institutions can move from good intentions to meaningful action. Together, Jay and Andrés explore why authentic representation matters, how philanthropy can drive systemic change, and what it really takes to build a more inclusive Jewish and civic life.

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    46 min
  15. Ronen Koehler - From Command to Community: Leading in Times of Crisis

    Episode 73

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    Episode 73 of What Gives?—the Jewish Philanthropy Podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, Andrés speaks with Ronen Koehler, a former submarine commander and a leader of Brothers and Sisters in Arms.

    We recorded this conversation during Israel’s war with Iran, with Ronen joining us from inside a public shelter in Tel Aviv. He reflects on the urgent, grassroots work of transforming neglected public shelters into safe and humane spaces, the evolution of Brothers and Sisters in Arms since October 7th, and the leadership lessons he carries from military service to civil society. It’s a conversation about resilience, responsibility, and the power of citizens to step up when systems falter.

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    40 min
  16. Dr. Keren Fraiman and Dr. Sivan Zakai - The Future of Israel Education

    Episode 72

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    Episode 72 of What Gives?—the Jewish Philanthropy Podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, Andrés speaks with Dr. Keren Fraiman, Dean and Chief Academic Officer of Spertus Institute for Jewish Learning and Leadership, and Dr. Sivan Zakai, Professor of Jewish Education at Hebrew Union College–Jewish Institute of Religion and director of the Children’s Learning About Israel Project. Both are leading researchers in Jewish education whose work examines how young people form their understanding of Israel, identity, and Jewish life. And both are recent recipients of the Ilia Salita Excellence in Research Award for the work they’ve done in this field.

    In this conversation, we explore their latest findings, what Jewish children are really learning and feeling, and how funders and educators can better support honest, nuanced approaches to Israel education in today’s climate.

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    53 min
  17. Sarah Hurwitz - Reclaiming Jewish Identity and Peoplehood

    Episode 71

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    Episode 71 of What Gives?—the Jewish Philanthropy Podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, our guest is Sarah Hurwitz, former speechwriter for President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama, and the author of two widely discussed books about Jewish life and identity. Her newest book, As a Jew: Reclaiming Our Story from Those Who Blame, Shame, and Try to Erase Us, challenges us to rethink how centuries of prejudice have shaped Jewish self-understanding, and why now is the time for a more confident and substantive embrace of Jewish tradition and peoplehood.

    Sarah spoke about what it means to live as a Jew “without apology,” why shallow or self-deprecating Jewish identities aren’t enough in this moment, and how young Jews especially can ground themselves in real content and community.

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    52 min
  18. Elias Saratovsky - Immersive Israel Travel and the Future of Jewish Identity

    Episode 70

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    Episode 70 of What Gives?—the Jewish philanthropy podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, we speak with Elias Saratovsky, President and CEO of the Birthright Israel Foundation. As Birthright turns 25, we reflect not just on the nearly 900,000 young Jews who’ve visited Israel through this transformative program, but on how immersive travel, identity, and belonging are being reimagined for a new generation.

    Elias shares his personal story, from growing up in a family of Soviet Jewish immigrants with little Jewish identity, to going on the very first Birthright trip in 1999, to now stewarding the future of the most ambitious Jewish educational initiative of our time. Elias and Andrés explore how Birthright adapted through a pandemic and a war, why pride and not propaganda is its most powerful product, and how a second trip to Israel might be even more important than the first.

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    54 min
  19. Shai Held - Judaism is About Love

    Episode 69

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    Episode 69 of What Gives?—the Jewish philanthropy podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, we speak with Shai Held, President and Dean of the Hadar Institute and author of the new book Judaism Is About Love: Recovering the Heart of Jewish Life. Shai returns for his second appearance on this podcast to talk about the enduring caricature of the “Old Testament God,” and how that distortion has shaped both Jewish and Christian imaginations.

    Shai and Andrés explore why many rabbis feel ill-equipped to support spiritual seekers, how the trauma of October 7 has intensified theological yearning, and what role funders can play in revitalizing Jewish conversations about God. You’ll hear why Shai believes that real love, the kind rooted in justice, compassion, and mutual responsibility, is the most powerful force we can bring to a fractured world.

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    52 min
  20. Josh Miller - How Great Grants Get Made (and What Happens When They Don’t)

    Episode 68

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    Episode 68 of What Gives?—the Jewish philanthropy podcast from Jewish Funders Network, hosted by JFN President and CEO Andrés Spokoiny. In this episode, we speak with Josh Miller, Chief Program Officer at the Jim Joseph Foundation. Over the past 17 years, Josh has helped shape some of the most significant philanthropic investments in Jewish education and talent development. In this episode, we talk about how the field of Jewish philanthropy has professionalized, why general operating and multi-year grants are smarter bets, and what it really takes to support meaningful innovation, whether inside legacy institutions or bold new ventures.

    Josh also reflects on the “accidental” path that led him into Jewish professional life, the critical importance of field experience for funders, and how October 7 has reshaped our sense of urgency, purpose, and possibility.

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    51 min