Podcast
What It's Like To Be... with Dan Heath
Curious what it would be like to walk in someone else’s (work) shoes? Join New York Times bestselling author Dan Heath as he explores the world of work, one profession at a time, and interviews people who love what they do.
- Careers chart
- #13
- Episodes
- 92
- Releases
- Weekly
- Typical length
- 35 min
- On air since
- 2023
- Latest episode
- 3 days ago
Episodes
92 episodes, newest first
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38 min
A Choreographer
Season 2, Episode 3
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Sketching choreography in airport bathroom stalls, coaching Usher on exactly how to hold a strawberry, and fighting for fair pay for dancers and choreographers with Galen Hooks, a commercial dance choreographer in Los Angeles. Can you copyright a dance routine? And what does "body conscious" mean at an audition?
LINKS & REFERENCES
• Galen's website, Instagram, and YouTube channel
• Watch "River" here
• Usher's "Ruin" video, choreographed by Galen
• Galen was nominated for a VMA for choreography for Camila Cabello's "Havana" video.GOT A COMMENT OR SUGGESTION? Email us at jobs@whatitslike.com
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36 min
A Piano Tuner
Season 2, Episode 2
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Listening for harmonics inside a note, dealing with awkward situations in people's homes, and chasing down nearly imperceptible flaws for world-class pianists with Peter Stumpf, a piano tuner in Pittsburgh. Why does he bite his tuning fork like a cigar? And what does it mean to "stretch an octave"?
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41 min
A Contortionist
Season 2, Episode 1
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Contorting inside a floating pool bubble, overriding her body’s false alarms while bending backward, and stretching and strengthening six days a week for a four-minute act with Lisbeth Mikoleit, a contortionist in Las Vegas. Why does she train with a mouth guard? And what’s a “triple fold”?
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2 min
A Big Announcement
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32 min
A Forensic Architect
Season 1, Episode 83
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Poking a finger through rotted structural columns, hunting down the water leaks behind construction defects, and keeping cool under hostile cross-examination with Jorge McCormack, a forensic architect in Florida. Why do forensic architects avoid saying the word "mold"? And what's a "Daubert motion"?
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35 min
A Special Ed Teacher
Season 1, Episode 82
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Sprawling on the floor like a starfish beside an overwhelmed teen, staging Friday prank calls to fellow teachers, and orchestrating the chaos of a self-contained classroom with Sierra Patrick, a special ed teacher in South Carolina. What does she wish people understood about nonverbal students? And what's the most valuable piece of technology in her classroom?
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36 min
An Auctioneer
Season 1, Episode 81
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Chanting bids to whip up a bidding war, shipping $750,000 of Magic: The Gathering cards by armored car, and knowing exactly when to bring the gavel down with Joe Bodnar, an auctioneer in New Jersey. How does he separate junk from treasure? And what does it mean to "break up the pool"?
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36 min
An Infectious Disease Doctor
Season 1, Episode 80
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Sleuthing through patient histories for the clue everyone else missed, asking patients about caves, scorpions, and shaman retreats, and sounding the alarm on a potential Ebola case with Dr. Boghuma Titanji, an infectious disease doctor. What annoys ID doctors about the TV show House? And which infections can she diagnose by smell?
LINKS & REFERENCES
• Psittacosis is a rare bacterial infection spread from birds, explained on the CDC's psittacosis page
• A 2026 hantavirus outbreak on a cruise ship killed three passengers, per this CDC health advisory.
• APOPO trains rats to sniff out tuberculosis in sputum samples. See how it works.
• Listen to Death, Sex, and MoneyGOT A COMMENT OR SUGGESTION? Email us at jobs@whatitslike.com
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30 min
A Mail Carrier
Season 1, Episode 79
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Loading the mail truck before the day begins, dealing with aggressive dogs and bad weather, and keeping a neighborhood connected by showing up every day with John Ayala, a retired mail carrier in Los Angeles. How did a golf club help him deliver packages? And what does a mail carrier learn about us from our mail?
Thanks to Mike, one of our listeners, who reached out to suggest we talk with John after reading a profile of him in the LA Times.
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35 min
A Hotshot
Season 1, Episode 78
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Digging line to redirect the country's fiercest wildland fires, sleeping in the dirt after a 16-hour day, and turning physical endurance into a public service with Ben Strahan, a hotshot crew superintendent in California. What does a wildfire sound like up close? And where does a crew go when the fire threatens to overrun them?
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36 min
An Airport CEO
Season 1, Episode 77
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Pitching airline executives during route-planning speed dates, opening a $1.7 billion new terminal, and making space for emotional airport reunions with Christina Cassotis, CEO of Pittsburgh International Airport. Why does she have a beekeeper on contract? And what did a missing freight elevator teach her about leadership?
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30 min
A Civil Aviation Engineer
Season 1, Episode 76
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Designing runways for hot air and heavy planes, inspecting pavement cracks with measuring wheels, and protecting vicious little owls from construction crews with Eileen Vélez-Vega, a civil aviation engineer in Puerto Rico. What does the color of runway lights reveal to a pilot? And what's a "spall"?
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31 min
An Air Traffic Controller
Season 1, Episode 75
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Sequencing departures like a moving puzzle, scrambling when a jet takes off without clearance, and catching what radar misses with a glance out the window with Michael Rejent, an air traffic controller. What does "tally ho" mean to a pilot? What phrase makes every controller in the cab look up?
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30 min
A Flight Attendant
Season 1, Episode 74
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Hugging a mother through an anxiety attack, bidding for the best routes, and absorbing strangers' confessions at 35,000 feet with Linda Beall, a flight attendant. What does it mean when the cabin bells ring three or four times? And what makes a trip a “dog”?
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39 min
An Airline Pilot
Season 1, Episode 73
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Shooting cat-three landings in the fog, using the “voice of God” on unruly passengers, and declaring Mayday after an engine fire with Paul Drusch, a commercial airline pilot. Why does the pilot’s paycheck start with the parking brake? And what does “sterile cockpit” mean? (Spoiler: it doesn’t mean “clean.”)
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17 min
(Bonus) From StoryCorps: "Sideliners" Bonus
Season 1
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Athletes get all the glory, but there are countless people around them making the games happen - from referees making judgments, to vendors in the stands hawking snacks and beer. In this episode from The StoryCorps Podcast, drawn from our archive of the largest single collection of human voices ever recorded, you’ll hear from the people on the sidelines.
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40 min
A Clinical Ethicist
Season 1, Episode 72
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Untangling who gets to speak for a dying patient, weighing a treatment's benefits against its burdens, and searching for clarity in the grayest corners of healthcare with Esther Berkowitz, a clinical ethicist. What is the "dignity of risk"? And how do you know which "version" of a person to trust?
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35 min
A Correctional Officer
Season 1, Episode 71
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Grinding through 16-hour shifts, standing behind inmates (never in front), and trying to stay human in an inhuman environment with Bill Farrell, a correctional officer in Massachusetts. What happens when an officer gets "frozen"? And why does the sound of scuffling sneakers stop him in his tracks?
LINKS & REFERENCES
• Bill was the co-creator of a short documentary about the physical and mental toll of being a correctional officer. It's called "Behind The Wall".
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36 min
A Custom Harvester
Season 1, Episode 70
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Harvesting five million bushels of wheat and corn from Texas to Montana, outrunning hailstorms that decimate a year's income in 20 minutes, and running a multimillion-dollar convoy of equipment down the highway with Josh Beckley, a third-generation custom harvester from Kansas. Why do farmers outsource the harvesting of their own crops? And what happens when you drive a combine into a ditch?
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37 min
A Funeral Director
Season 1, Episode 69
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Guiding grieving families through arrangement meetings, orchestrating meaningful memorial services within days, and preparing bodies for viewing with Heather Hill, a funeral director in North Carolina. What's different about doing makeup on a dead person? And what is it like to field a death call?
LINKS & REFERENCES
• Heather writes about her work on her website.
• She's a funeral director at Renaissance Funeral Home in Raleigh, North Carolina.
• "The Future is Female" - American Funeral Director on the surge of women graduating from mortuary schoolGOT A COMMENT OR SUGGESTION? Email us at jobs@whatitslike.com
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