Podcast
WTUFO
What the UFO? We hold public conversations about the emerging science of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena.
We talk about what UFO/UAP might be, with a focus on how we should move forward. What research should we conduct? What institutions should we build? What laws should we pass? Should we try to make contact? How can each of us help?
If you're a researcher, experiencer or ufologist and you'd like to share your story or get the word out about your work, please find us on X @WTUFOshow.
If you're enjoying our show and you'd like to help us keep making it, please support us at patreon.com/WTUFO
- Astronomy chart
- #136
- Episodes
- 98
- Releases
- Weekly
- Typical length
- 51 min
- On air since
- 2024
- Latest episode
- 2 months ago
Episodes
98 episodes, newest first
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58 min
John Priestland 2026 ~ uNHIdden Founder and Chairman
Show notes
John founded the nonprofit org uNHIdden to help prepare society for the ontological shock of learning more about UAP. Their latest paper focuses on public health preparations to anticipate and minimize mental health challenges that might accompany disclosure of nonhuman intelligence on Earth.
uNHIdden: https://www.unhidden.org/
Preparing for Disclosure Report: https://www.unhidden.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/uNHIdden-Preparedness-Plan-Final-1.pdf
Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees
Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/
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1 hr 5 min
Marc S. Wilson ~ Attorney
Show notes
Marc is an attorney and a former Congressional Communications Director. His interest in UAP led him to dig into legal records, and we discuss four of the cases he found here.
We talk about the intersection of national security and public interest, the likely existence of secret technology, and the legal avenues toward formal disclosure.
Hope you enjoy!
Documents from the court cases we discuss: https://wtufo.com/marc-wilson-legal-documents-area-51-state-secrets/
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Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees
Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/
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51 min
Christopher Noel ~ Writer, Editor, Prosessor
Show notes
Christopher Noël is a writer, thinker, and retired professor. He holds a Masters in philosophy and teaches and edits creative writing. He's fascinated by the paranormal, and holds the view that UAP are manifestations of some as yet unexplained conscious activity.
Christopher's website: https://www.thenearnessofyou.net/
Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees
Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/
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45 min
Ron James ~ Accidental Truth Filmmaker, MUFON Media Relations Director
Show notes
Ron is a documentary filmmaker with two features about UFOs:
Accidental Truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4Tp_Q_jyNIAccidental Truth: Next
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASCppLdK13sWe discuss his experiences researching UFO phenomena and engaging with scientists and government officials to get better information. He shares his views of the questions we need to start confronting, and what we need to change to move forward together.
If you like WTUFO, support us on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO
Or join the WTUFO YouTube Membership
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/joinMusic by John Hubbell
https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-treesSpacefare Shop
https://spacefare.etsy.com/Thank you for watching!
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48 min
Christian Stepien ~ CTO of NUFORC
Show notes
Christian Stepien is the Chief Technical Officer of the National UFO Reporting Center. We talk about NUFORC's operations, their extensive data collection, the kinds of sightings they frequently process, and other topics. Check them out to explore their sighting catalog or report your own experience: https://nuforc.org/
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Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees |
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42 min
Matthew Tuttle ~ Capital Fund Manager
Show notes
Matthew Tuttle started $UFOD, an investment fund built to capitalize on potential revalations about secret advanced technology. We talk about his investment strategy, the nature of the secret tech we may have developed, and his intuitions about the legacy research program.
If you like WTUFO, support us on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO
Music by John Hubbell https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees
Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/
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57 min
Andrew Fraknoi ~ SETI Board Member, Astronomy Professor
Show notes
Andrew and I discuss the progress and future of SETI, the challenge of global communication with nonhuman intelligence, and the pursuit of UAP data.
Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees
Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/
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1 hr 4 min
Jonathan Miller ~ Entrepreneur, MIT Research Affiliate
Show notes
Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO
Jonathan Miller works in frontier tech, research and development. He vounteers for Americans for Safe Aerospace, and ran a course at MIT called Confronting Unknowns.
We discuss the challenge of considering UAP and means and methods for getting better information about this tricky subject.
Jonathan's Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tough-tech-today-with-meyen-and-miller/id1527322834
Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees
Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/
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1 hr 3 min
Rhys Dalton Morgan (UFOzzie)
Show notes
Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees
Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/
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49 min
Tim Burke ~ Writer, Director, Producer
Season 7, Episode 11
Show notes
Tim's Site: www.theageofcommunication.com
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Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/
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52 min
Daniel Otis ~ Investigative Journalist
Season 7, Episode 10
Show notes
Daniel Otis is an investigative journalist who covers UAP for Canadian and international news organizations. He works primarily with direct reports and documents, often retrieved by legal information requests.
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Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/
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50 min
Jordan Flowers ~ Disclosure Foundation Executive Director
Season 7, Episode 9
Show notes
Jordan leads the nonprofit Disclosure Foundation, a nonprofit supporting policy, legal and education actions to advance official disclosure and coordinate societal response thereto. He comes to this role after a 20-year career in corporate finance—he's a sharp tack and a good guy. We're honored to host him and learn about his work. Hope you enjoy!
Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees
Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/
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11 min
5 Resoultions For UFOlogy
Season 7, Episode 8
Show notes
• Cultivate Converations
• Fund and Organize Science
• Hold Government Accountable
• Educate and Encourage the Media
• Publicly Contact Nonhuman IntelligencesHappy New Year, everyone! Wishing you a fun, successful 2026.
Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees
Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/
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35 min
What's Going On With UFOs ~ Best Guess
Season 7, Episode 7
Show notes
A fun one for the end of 2025—this is my honest best guess about what's going on with UFOs. All the details from their origin to the time they've been here to their overarching agenda. Just pure, unfiltered, wild-eyed speculation. Hope you enjoy!
Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees
Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/
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25 min
3 Likely Disclosure Scenarios
Season 7, Episode 6
Show notes
What's actually going to happen? I've thought hard about it and this is what I think is likely.
1. A Presidential Address
2. An NHI Reveal
3. A Gradual Realization
In this fun, punchy episode, I tease out these possibilities and drive toward what I think we should be doing to prepare for and encourage them.
Happy holidays everyone. I wish you and your loved ones all a peaceful, healthy season.
<3
Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees
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32 min
UFO Media Criticism
Season 7, Episode 5
Show notes
The main engines of American news media do a terrible job covering UFOs. What should they resolve to improve?
Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees
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36 min
How Should We Think About Disclosure?
Season 7, Episode 4
Show notes
I'd like to start a conversation here and invite you to participate. Please meet us on our YouTube Community page to engage in the discussion: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO/community
Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees
Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/
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55 min
What Should We Do About UFOs?
Season 7, Episode 3
Show notes
I've been making WTUFO since the summer of 2024, so I take an episode here to share what I think is happening with UFOs, what my show is for, and what we should all do about this wild situation.
Thank you for listening!
Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees
Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/
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The bullet points I cover in this episode are:
1. What Is Happening?
• a) NHI on Earth
• b) Military Secrets
• c) Emerging Physics2. What Is WTUFO For?
• a) Normalizing the UFO Conversation
• b) Exploring Different Perspectives
• c) Finding Action Steps3. What Should We Do?
• a) Wake People Up
• b) Fund More Science
• c) Engage Publicly With NHII'd love to hear what you think! Come chime in on YouTube or at the show's Patreon Page.
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1 hr 10 min
Brenda Denzler ~ Jinn, UFOs and Religious Trickster Creatures
Season 7, Episode 2
Show notes
Brenda is a mostly retired writer, editor, and sometime speaker currently living in rural North Carolina. She received her Ph.D. in religious studies from Duke University in 1998 and is the author of The Lure of the Edge: Scientific Passions, Religious Beliefs, and the Pursuit of UFOs, (University of California Press, 2001), a couple of invited chapters in scholarly books on religion and the UFO sub-culture, and a few articles on UFOs and religion. Her current interest is in mining humanity’s folkloric and religious traditions to better understand the provenance and nature of “the gods,” the gentry, elementals, jinn, angels/demons, and similar entities in terms that treat them as something other than fictions with no more substance than mirrors into which we look to regulate, console, or understand ourselves as human beings.
Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees
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59 min
Dr. Jim Madden ~ Thinking Carefully About UAP
Season 7, Episode 1
Show notes
Dr. James Madden teaches philosophy at Benedictine College. He's written three books, including "Unidentified Flying Hyperobject: UFOs, Philosophy, and the End of the World."
We discuss how to think carefully about UAP, the probabilities of their origins, the tension between caution and productive investigation, what it would take to prove UAP are nonhuman, and the possibilities of contact.
Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees
Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/
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Jim's Papers: https://www.jdmadden.com/philosophy-course
Jim's Substack: https://jdmadden.substack.com/
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