Podcast

WTUFO

Astronomy, Natural Sciences, Science

What the UFO? We hold public conversations about the emerging science of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena.

We talk about what UFO/UAP might be, with a focus on how we should move forward. What research should we conduct? What institutions should we build? What laws should we pass? Should we try to make contact? How can each of us help?

If you're a researcher, experiencer or ufologist and you'd like to share your story or get the word out about your work, please find us on X @WTUFOshow.

If you're enjoying our show and you'd like to help us keep making it, please support us at patreon.com/WTUFO

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Episodes
98
Releases
Weekly
Typical length
51 min
On air since
2024
Latest episode
2 months ago

Episodes

98 episodes, newest first

  1. John Priestland 2026 ~ uNHIdden Founder and Chairman

    Show notes

    John founded the nonprofit org uNHIdden to help prepare society for the ontological shock of learning more about UAP. Their latest paper focuses on public health preparations to anticipate and minimize mental health challenges that might accompany disclosure of nonhuman intelligence on Earth.

    uNHIdden: https://www.unhidden.org/

    Preparing for Disclosure Report: https://www.unhidden.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/uNHIdden-Preparedness-Plan-Final-1.pdf

    Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees

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    58 min
  2. Marc S. Wilson ~ Attorney

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    Marc is an attorney and a former Congressional Communications Director. His interest in UAP led him to dig into legal records, and we discuss four of the cases he found here.

    We talk about the intersection of national security and public interest, the likely existence of secret technology, and the legal avenues toward formal disclosure.

    Hope you enjoy!

    Documents from the court cases we discuss: https://wtufo.com/marc-wilson-legal-documents-area-51-state-secrets/

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    1 hr 5 min
  3. Christopher Noel ~ Writer, Editor, Prosessor

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    Christopher Noël is a writer, thinker, and retired professor. He holds a Masters in philosophy and teaches and edits creative writing. He's fascinated by the paranormal, and holds the view that UAP are manifestations of some as yet unexplained conscious activity.

    Christopher's website: https://www.thenearnessofyou.net/
    Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees
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    51 min
  4. Ron James ~ Accidental Truth Filmmaker, MUFON Media Relations Director

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    Ron is a documentary filmmaker with two features about UFOs:

    Accidental Truth
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4Tp_Q_jyNI

    Accidental Truth: Next
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASCppLdK13s

    We discuss his experiences researching UFO phenomena and engaging with scientists and government officials to get better information. He shares his views of the questions we need to start confronting, and what we need to change to move forward together.

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    Music by John Hubbell
    https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees

    Spacefare Shop
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    Thank you for watching!

    45 min
  5. Christian Stepien ~ CTO of NUFORC

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    Christian Stepien is the Chief Technical Officer of the National UFO Reporting Center. We talk about NUFORC's operations, their extensive data collection, the kinds of sightings they frequently process, and other topics. Check them out to explore their sighting catalog or report your own experience: https://nuforc.org/

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    48 min
  6. Matthew Tuttle ~ Capital Fund Manager

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    Matthew Tuttle started $UFOD, an investment fund built to capitalize on potential revalations about secret advanced technology. We talk about his investment strategy, the nature of the secret tech we may have developed, and his intuitions about the legacy research program.

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    Music by John Hubbell https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees

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    42 min
  7. Andrew Fraknoi ~ SETI Board Member, Astronomy Professor

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    Andrew and I discuss the progress and future of SETI, the challenge of global communication with nonhuman intelligence, and the pursuit of UAP data.

    Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees

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    57 min
  8. Jonathan Miller ~ Entrepreneur, MIT Research Affiliate

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    Jonathan Miller works in frontier tech, research and development. He vounteers for Americans for Safe Aerospace, and ran a course at MIT called Confronting Unknowns.

    We discuss the challenge of considering UAP and means and methods for getting better information about this tricky subject.

    Jonathan's Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tough-tech-today-with-meyen-and-miller/id1527322834

    Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees

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    1 hr 4 min
  9. Rhys Dalton Morgan (UFOzzie)

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    Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees

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    1 hr 3 min
  10. Tim Burke ~ Writer, Director, Producer

    Season 7, Episode 11

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    Tim's Site: www.theageofcommunication.com

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    49 min
  11. Daniel Otis ~ Investigative Journalist

    Season 7, Episode 10

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    Daniel Otis is an investigative journalist who covers UAP for Canadian and international news organizations. He works primarily with direct reports and documents, often retrieved by legal information requests.

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    52 min
  12. Jordan Flowers ~ Disclosure Foundation Executive Director

    Season 7, Episode 9

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    Jordan leads the nonprofit Disclosure Foundation, a nonprofit supporting policy, legal and education actions to advance official disclosure and coordinate societal response thereto. He comes to this role after a 20-year career in corporate finance—he's a sharp tack and a good guy. We're honored to host him and learn about his work. Hope you enjoy!

    Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees

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    50 min
  13. 5 Resoultions For UFOlogy

    Season 7, Episode 8

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    • Cultivate Converations
    • Fund and Organize Science
    • Hold Government Accountable
    • Educate and Encourage the Media
    • Publicly Contact Nonhuman Intelligences

    Happy New Year, everyone! Wishing you a fun, successful 2026.

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    11 min
  14. What's Going On With UFOs ~ Best Guess

    Season 7, Episode 7

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    A fun one for the end of 2025—this is my honest best guess about what's going on with UFOs. All the details from their origin to the time they've been here to their overarching agenda. Just pure, unfiltered, wild-eyed speculation. Hope you enjoy!

    Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees

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    35 min
  15. 3 Likely Disclosure Scenarios

    Season 7, Episode 6

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    What's actually going to happen? I've thought hard about it and this is what I think is likely.

    1. A Presidential Address

    2. An NHI Reveal

    3. A Gradual Realization

    In this fun, punchy episode, I tease out these possibilities and drive toward what I think we should be doing to prepare for and encourage them.

    Happy holidays everyone. I wish you and your loved ones all a peaceful, healthy season.

    <3

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    25 min
  16. UFO Media Criticism

    Season 7, Episode 5

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    The main engines of American news media do a terrible job covering UFOs. What should they resolve to improve?

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    32 min
  17. How Should We Think About Disclosure?

    Season 7, Episode 4

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    I'd like to start a conversation here and invite you to participate. Please meet us on our YouTube Community page to engage in the discussion: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO/community

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    36 min
  18. What Should We Do About UFOs?

    Season 7, Episode 3

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    I've been making WTUFO since the summer of 2024, so I take an episode here to share what I think is happening with UFOs, what my show is for, and what we should all do about this wild situation.

    Thank you for listening!

    Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees

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    The bullet points I cover in this episode are:

    1. What Is Happening?

    • a) NHI on Earth
    • b) Military Secrets
    • c) Emerging Physics

    2. What Is WTUFO For?

    • a) Normalizing the UFO Conversation
    • b) Exploring Different Perspectives
    • c) Finding Action Steps

    3. What Should We Do?

    • a) Wake People Up
    • b) Fund More Science
    • c) Engage Publicly With NHI

    I'd love to hear what you think! Come chime in on YouTube or at the show's Patreon Page.

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    55 min
  19. Brenda Denzler ~ Jinn, UFOs and Religious Trickster Creatures

    Season 7, Episode 2

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    Brenda is a mostly retired writer, editor, and sometime speaker currently living in rural North Carolina. She received her Ph.D. in religious studies from Duke University in 1998 and is the author of The Lure of the Edge: Scientific Passions, Religious Beliefs, and the Pursuit of UFOs, (University of California Press, 2001), a couple of invited chapters in scholarly books on religion and the UFO sub-culture, and a few articles on UFOs and religion. Her current interest is in mining humanity’s folkloric and religious traditions to better understand the provenance and nature of “the gods,” the gentry, elementals, jinn, angels/demons, and similar entities in terms that treat them as something other than fictions with no more substance than mirrors into which we look to regulate, console, or understand ourselves as human beings.

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    1 hr 10 min
  20. Dr. Jim Madden ~ Thinking Carefully About UAP

    Season 7, Episode 1

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    Dr. James Madden teaches philosophy at Benedictine College. He's written three books, including "Unidentified Flying Hyperobject: UFOs, Philosophy, and the End of the World."

    We discuss how to think carefully about UAP, the probabilities of their origins, the tension between caution and productive investigation, what it would take to prove UAP are nonhuman, and the possibilities of contact.

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    Jim's Papers: https://www.jdmadden.com/philosophy-course

    Jim's Substack: https://jdmadden.substack.com/

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    59 min