Growing Interest with Mary Holland Nader

Haley Sacks, aka Mrs. Dow Jones, has built a career making complicated financial concepts make sense to millions of people. But let's be honest: how many of us actually understand what the Fed does, how the stock market works, or why everyone keeps talking about interest rates?
Haley joins Mary Holland to break down the money terms everyone hears but few people really understand. From the S&P 500 and the Federal Reserve to interest rates and inflation, Haley explains what these things actually mean, why they matter, and how they impact your everyday financial decisions.
She also gets candid about her own relationship with money, the financial mistakes she's made (and what she's learned from them), and the simple habits that can help you turn financial knowledge into actual wealth.
Haley and Mary Holland get into:
- What the Fed actually does and why its decisions affect your wallet
- The difference between the S&P 500, Nasdaq and Dow Jones
- How interest rates impact everything from your savings to your mortgage
- The investing mistakes and money lessons they've learned firsthand
Whether you're new to investing or just tired of pretending you understand the financial news, consider this your crash course in the money stuff everyone should know.
Because understanding money is the first step to making more of it.

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This week, we're getting a little witchy with our money.
Mary Holland is joined by Dr. Ellen Vora, a Yale- and Columbia-trained psychiatrist and author of Season of the Witch, who's making a fascinating case for something women have been told to ignore for centuries: their intuition.
But we're not just talking crystals and manifestation. We're talking biology, neuroscience, hormones, and what actually happens in your body when something just feels off.
Can your gut help you make better financial decisions? Is there science behind manifesting money? Why are women called emotional when they trust their instincts? And is the hustle mentality actually working against us?
Ellen is breaking down the difference between false anxiety and true anxiety, the science behind those mysterious gut feelings, and how to build a more intuitive relationship with money.

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You probably know Chantel Jeffries as a DJ, creator, and fixture in pop culture. What you may not know is that she's also been quietly building a track record as an investor.

Chantel wrote an early check into Poppi before its roughly $2 billion acquisition by PepsiCo. She's an early investor in Oura, backed Lolli, launched her own fund, Vizn Ventures, and was talking about Bitcoin back in 2017.

So how did she learn to spot opportunities early—and trust herself enough to put real money behind them?

Chantel joins Mary Holland to talk about what she looks for before backing a company, the difference between following a trend and recognizing a real opportunity, and how she learned to trust her own judgment even when other people underestimated her.

They also get into managing money with an unpredictable income, the lessons Chantel has learned from investing, and how to start thinking differently about the brands you already know and love.

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As the co-founder and CEO of Good American, founding partner of SKIMS, and one of the most successful self-made women in business, Emma Grede has built an empire. But she didn't come from money, didn't finish college, and wasn't always comfortable with numbers.

In this episode of Growing Interest, Mary Holland Nader sits down with Emma to explore the money mindset shifts behind her success—and what the rest of us can learn from them.

They get into the psychology of money, from emotional spending and overcoming a fear of numbers to negotiating for more, knowing your worth, and understanding when to prioritize ownership over a paycheck. Emma also opens up about navigating money in friendships, relationships, and business, and why women need to stop apologizing for wanting more.

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We spend a lot of time talking about how to build wealth. But how do you protect it? This week, Mary sits down with Caitlin Sarian, better known as Cybersecurity Girl, to find out what hackers and scammers know about us that we don’t, and the everyday habits that could be making our money easier to steal.

After nearly a decade working behind the scenes in cybersecurity, including leading Global Cybersecurity Advocacy and Culture at TikTok, Caitlin has seen how people actually get hacked, what makes someone an easy target, and why the stereotype that scams only happen to older people could be making the rest of us more vulnerable.

Caitlin breaks down:

- the money scams she’s seeing right now

- the “harmless” online behaviors hackers love

- whether it’s safe to give AI your financial information

Plus, she gives Mary Holland her 60-second cybersecurity checklist and reveals the changes she’s made in her own life after spending years around some of the smartest hackers in the world.

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What happens when your sister is also your roommate, business partner—and the person you split the money with?

Jean and Cherie Luo, better known as the Tiger Sisters, walked away from careers at Goldman Sachs, Snap, and LinkedIn to bet on themselves. Since then, they’ve built one of the biggest business podcasts on Spotify, launched Sisters Matcha, and say they became self-made millionaires before turning 26.

But Mary Holland wants to know what happens behind the numbers.

Jean and Cherie get candid about:

- how they actually split money and equity as sisters

- whether everything is really 50/50

- putting their own money into their businesses

- what happens when one sister brings in a deal.

They also break down the very different goals of starting their media company versus matcha business, whether four Ivy League degrees were worth the price tag, and the moment they actually started to feel rich.

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Vivian Tu, aka CEO and Founder of Your Rich BFFand Ask Dolly (which you can find here: askdolly.com/MHN), has built a career telling millions of people what to do with their money. But building wealth is only half the story. What happens to it when you're gone?

Vivian joins Mary Holland to talk about the money decisions most of us would rather avoid: when you actually need a will, who needs a trust, what happens to your money if you die without a plan, and whether you can really control how your family spends an inheritance from beyond the grave.

She also gets candid about her own money journey - from translating bills for her immigrant parents and trading stocks at J.P. Morgan to becoming BuzzFeed's top salesperson, and leaving corporate America to build Your Rich BFF.

Vivian and Mary get into:

- The financial calculation Vivian made before quitting her corporate job

- The financial advice Vivian has trouble following herself

- Who really needs a will—and how early you should get one

- Whether you need to be rich to have a trust fund

- The wild things people can put into an inheritance

- How wealthy families protect money for future generations

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Jason Tartick has lived a few very different financial lives: corporate banker, reality TV personality, entrepreneur, investor, author, podcast host, and creator. He’s become known for breaking the taboo around money—asking the questions most people are afraid to ask and bringing radical transparency to conversations about how we earn, spend, invest, and build wealth.

Now, Jason joins Mary Holland with the mic turned on him, getting candid about his own money habits, career pivots, investments, and relationships.

They get into:
- What it was really like leaving the security and credibility of banking for The Bachelorette
- How his relationship with money has changed as his career—and income—have evolved
- The business behind his talent agency and how he makes money from it
- How he thinks about buzzy investments like AI and crypto
- How early you should start talking about money with someone you're dating
- The financial red flags to look out for in a relationship

From career pivots and investing to salaries, relationships, and the money conversations we’d rather avoid, this episode is a reminder that financial transparency isn’t about having all the right answers—it’s about being willing to ask the right questions.

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Private investing is having a moment - but should you actually be investing in startups?

Serial entrepreneur and investor Jaclyn Johnson joins Mary Holland to breakdown what you need to know before putting your money into a private company: who can invest, how much risk you should actually take, why your money could be tied up for years, and what really has to happen before an investment pays off.

And Jaclyn knows risk from both sides of the table. She built Create & Cultivate from scratch, sold the company for $22 million, and later made the unexpected decision to buy it back. She gets candid about:

- what a $22 million exit actually means for a founder

- what she did when the money hit her account

- how she thinks about knowing when “enough” is enough

- why emotion isn't always the enemy when making big business decisions.

Plus, Jaclyn shares what she’s learned investing in companies like Away, Chillhouse, and Crown Affair—and what she looks for before writing a check today.

Whether you're curious about angel investing, building a company of your own, or just trying to understand how wealthy people think about risk, this episode will help you ask a better question: What kind of risk actually makes sense for me?

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Simon Sinek sits down with Mary Holland Nader to help her answer one of the biggest questions we face in work and life: What is my why?

In a first-ever abbreviated version of Simon’s famous Find Your Why exercise, he walks Mary through the process of uncovering the experiences, patterns and values that have shaped her sense of purpose—and shows how you can start finding your own.

Simon also breaks down:
- What great leaders have in common
- How to start finding your purpose at work
- Why our upbringing shapes who we become
- Why we struggle to make decisions that benefit our future selves
- How to have difficult conversations as a leader
- Why your “why” is a process of discovery—not something you simply invent
Whether you’re questioning your career, looking for more motivation at work, or trying to become a better leader, Simon offers a practical framework for understanding what drives you—and how to use it.

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With Lemme on track to generate more than $200 million in revenue this year, co-founder Simon Huck joins Mary Holland Nader on her first episode of Growing Interest to break down the money, marketing, and strategy behind building a breakout brand alongside Kourtney Kardashian.

Simon shares:
- where Lemme spent its earliest dollars
- the marketing and PR moves he believes are actually worth paying for
- how the company thinks about celebrity, brand, and product in a crowded wellness market
- his own path from connecting brands with some of the biggest names in Hollywood, to acquiring the agency he helped build, to becoming an entrepreneur himself

Whether you're starting a business with a $0 budget, scaling something you've already built, or simply curious about how great brands create real value, this episode is a look inside how one of Hollywood's most connected brand builders thinks about money, attention, and growth.

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Mary Holland shares the weekly Money Ritual that changed her relationship with money.

- The financial identity crisis that created an unlock

- The 5 step routine she follows every Sunday

- An action item to get you started

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Mary Holland Nader is the Founder and CEO of Mary & Pip, a former Wall Street Investment Manager, and co-star of Hulu’s Love Thy Nader. On The ‘Growing Interest’ Podcast, join Mary Holland Nader as she explores her curiosity and passion for how psychology, habits, and real-life behaviors shape how we earn and spend.

Through thoughtful conversations with experts, professionals, and her friends - plus behind-the-scenes insights from her own life as an investment manager, founder, and reality personality - each episode will deliver practical, doable shifts that make financial wellness feel less overwhelming and more human. New Episodes are out every Tuesday.

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